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3081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 24, 2022, 09:18:26 PM
Ibrahimovic wont stop until his legs gives out. Its really something too see someone so dedicated to football and doing his job great still at his age. This injury is really hard and i think he wont recover for anytime soon at all. Plus with his age we cannot expect him to be at the same level
AFAIK Ibrahimovic got operated on his knee recently and he will not be able to play for the next 8 months or maybe less and with the World Cup cut and the time for training and getting back to his form, I assume he won't come back before 2023 and he won't be useful for the team again this season and with his age, I am wondering when he will stop? Just asking, not judging him when to do it.
3082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 24, 2022, 04:19:03 PM
https://www.transfermarkt.com/barcelona-submit-bid-for-lewandowski-ronaldo-lined-up-to-replace-him-at-bayern-munich-/view/news/406635

There is fresh news about the possible Lewandowski transfer to Barcelona. It is said in the source that Barcelona have made their official offer for him and it is worth 40 million euros. The transfer fee is 35 million euros and there is a bonus worth 5 million euros too. I think that it is a quite favourable offer for Bayern Munich now. But they still seem decisive about not selling him until his contract expires next summer. This is making things really difficult for Lewandowski as he wants to leave now. If they block his way then this might reflect on his performance badly too.
€40m is quite good number for Lewandowski and Bayern should take that opportunity. First he is relatively older, they will keep him for 1 year then he will walk away free, it isn't profitable to keep a player who doesn't want to play in your team and as you mentioned this will affect his performance. Besides, Bayern has to find an alternative for him or find a new strategy with Mane arrival.
3083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 23, 2022, 09:51:37 PM
Overview of teams and their Inestment or income for 2023 (this ranking is not final):

1 Benfica Lissabon - Paid: € 28.30 million / Income: € 97.00 million
2 Red Bull Salzburg - Paid: € 6.00 million / Income: € 76.44 million
3 Borussia Dortmund   - Paid: € 55.00 million / Revenues: € 61.50 million
4 Sporting Lissabon - Paid: € 28.00 million / Income: € 42.80 million
5 FC Liverpool - Paid: € 85.79 million / Revenue: € 41.00 million
Liverpool dιficit came from one player, Nunez, and Mane departure reduced it.
Dortmund came positive thanks to Haaland release. The other teams profited good from that without counting free transfers.
3084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: June 23, 2022, 09:40:04 PM
I like seeing odds before the season to get an overall overview about how people and bookies are feeling about teams.
Best odds are for City obviously 8/13 then Liverpool 2/1 then Spurs 14/1 then Chelsea 18/1 then ManU 33/1 then Arsenal 40/1 then the others more than 100/1.
What's quite interesting is the big gap between first two and Spurs, the fact that Spurs under Conte picked Chelsea spot and how bad ManU looks.
3085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 23, 2022, 09:32:55 PM
The La Liga calendar has been announced and both Real Madrid and Barcelona have quite easy games in the first round scheduled mid August. In fact I find almost all games in this first round to have a clear favourite.
El classico will be played in October 16 and March 19.
3086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying on: June 23, 2022, 09:16:29 PM
@el kaka22 @snipie
As requested, poll.
Thanks. I don't see many members interacting yet, I think they are afraid from the self moderated topic Tongue but eventually they will join later once we get closer.

Man City: 3.770
Liverpool: 5.540
PSG: 6.540
Bayern Munich: 8.060
Chelsea: 13.100
Real Madrid: 11.680
Barcelona: 16.130
Juventus: 26.200
Cut the rest since I doubt they could advance to the finals unless there will be a very lucky draw for them. I find it funny to see Real Madrid odds like that although they are the champions of this version! BTW is this odds correct?
I have only a problem about Real place in this list, I prefer to put them after City and before Bayern with close odds between these clubs.
3087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 23, 2022, 07:41:33 AM
-snip-
well consider that with this rich year for Real Madrid, many players have gained value
therefore they are gambling for a chance to get a higher salary
normal for this to happen after a year like this
if the team pays more, they stay .. and so it should
This year he will not find easily a suitable salary in the biggest club since many of them already purchased players or planning to. Not sure if ManU will be interested for him? But next year with free transfer he will get better offers for sure.
3088  Economy / Speculation / Re: $13,000 is quite possible this week on: June 23, 2022, 07:32:23 AM
The lowest price since ATH is around $ 17k and I hope not to drop even lower, if the market continues to drop certainly makes many people panic and will make prices continue to fall, but many are waiting for a low price moment because they plan to buy, in my opinion this is an idea Good is buying when low prices.
The bitcoin price gaining between $2-3k these last days boosted the confidence a little for many users to regret not buying in the dip.
For now the price is hovering around $20.5k +/- 0.5. Hopefully it will rise again to +$30k by July.
3089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 22, 2022, 06:30:04 PM
When it comes to the Lewandowski situation, it is still quite ambiguous. Recent news say that he is still determined to leave Bayern Munich. I have heard about another thing also that Bayern Munich sporting director Hasan Salihamidzic is going to talk to Lewandowski face-to-face to try to convince him to stay here. It doesn't seem like he can be successful about convincing him now. Bayern Munich will just hope for him not to reach an agreement with any other team in the summer. But there are quite many teams trying to sign him currently.

https://sport.sky.de/fussball/artikel/fc-bayern-transfers-lewandowski-treffen-auf-mallorca-salihamidzic-kaempft-weiter/12637532/34942
Even Kahn said that Lewandowski is under contract and he has still 1 year to play with Bayern.
The problem with Lewa is his ambition to play with Barcelona and only Barca. He refused to talk with Chelsea and PSG which could offer more money to attract Bayern.
Now Barcelona offering a good price isn't that obvious until they reduce their players / salaries..
3090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 22, 2022, 06:04:40 PM
I believe Bayern Munich made a great move by signing Liverpool winger Mane. Because Mane has performed very well for Liverpool so far. Liverpool didn't want to sell him as long as another team make the offer that they would be okay to accept. Bayern Munich's initial offer was quite low but they didn't give up on this signing and reached an agreement finally. Bayern Munich have only Leroy Sane as left winger now so it was important for Bayern Munich to finish this deal successfully. If he doesn't have any adaptation problem he can take Sane's place in the starting eleven.
If I am not mistaken, Mane salary in Bayern will be x2.5 what he earned from Liverpool. He has now 3 years contract with Bayern, he isn't the top paid players there but he seems happy, hopefully he will not turn to be like Lukaku in Chelsea and Liverpool won from his transfer comparing to what they paid to get him from Southampton.
3091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying 4/08/22 on: June 22, 2022, 05:40:31 PM
I will add these information here to simplify things Wink
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Europa League qualifiers : 4, 11, 18, 25 August 2022
Group stage : 8, 15 September 2022 + 6, 13, 27 October 2022 + 3 November 2022
Knockout stage : 16, 23 February
Round of 16 : 9, 16 March 2023
Quarter-finals: 13, 20 April 2023
Semi-finals: 11, 18 May 2023
Final: 31 May 2023

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Europa League draws :
Third qualifying round: 18 July 2022
Play-off round: 2 August 2022
Group stage: 26 August 2022
Knockout round play-off: 7 November 2022
Round of 16: 24 February 2023
Quarter-finals & Semi-finals: 17 March 2023
As I suggested in CL thread, It would be nice to implement a poll where we can suggest a winner from which league then in mid season or round of 16 we modify the poll to include clubs.
Here it is more complicated to vote directly in clubs since teams from CL will join EL once they lose there.
3092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying on: June 22, 2022, 05:28:12 PM
@buwaytress, best thing to do with self moderated topic to limit repetitive posts. I would like to see a poll for Champions League winner for 2022/23 season. I know it is harder to do with EL and ECL but here is easier and it can be updated every period if necessary. The poll can look like :
- the winner will be a club from : EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1...
Or
- the winner will be : Real Madrid, City, Barcelona, Liverpool, Bayern, PSG, Chelsea, Juve...

Edit: First one to vote and I picked City. I think they could do it this time with Guardiola and Haaland!
3093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: June 20, 2022, 10:57:04 PM
Inter Milan wants Lukaku and Lukaku wants them, why the delay ?
Can Chelsea just let loose of him, I don't even see him as a player Tuchel likes. I will not fall for this if I was at Italy already.
The problem is that inter milan not agreed yet about the loan fee .

Chelsea ask for 10 million euro plus add-ons and inter have not responded it yet.
Once the loan offer agreed .. lukaku will be sent back to inter where he really wanted there , a bit irony to see this but yeah that's a life of football , you can't predict things. Tuchel looks play dirty on lukaku for no reason .. i think he doesn't like lukaku attitude.
Why bother then getting him for x10 the asked loan? It is like having much money to throw for nothing. Lukaku this season wasn't in top of his performance and didn't add a lot for Chelsea. He was a key player back then in Inter which would be better to get him for that price. They might want to see Chelsea lowering the fee since they don't really need him with Tuchel on management..
3094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 20, 2022, 10:49:52 PM
There are excellent transfer news in the world football market; Haaland, Mane, Matic, Pogba, Nunez, Bissouma, Tchouameni and others... They're all great and sensational football player transfers, but one of them really catches my attention.
Yes, there is some interesting transfers and we are just in the beginning of this summer transfer period.
I still want to see how CR7 and Lewandowski future club will be! They will move or stay and whether there will be a late period transfer surprises, from Messi for example.
3095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread on: June 20, 2022, 09:41:12 AM
I am certain that Turkey is in the B league.  All teams are weaker than Turkey in the group they are currently in.  Turkey did not even concede a goal in the 4 games they played.  Therefore, it will easily go to the B league.  Turkey's target is seen as the A League.  I see a young, high-quality Turkey who is a candidate for the A league in a year or two.
In Europe there is top teams, medium and weak ones. The difference between these groups is quite large. It is like moving from skills 8-9/10 to 5/10 to 1-2/10 without having in-between skills. Turkey is 5/10, not good, not bad. The small teams we are talking about are simply in the low tier..
3096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: June 19, 2022, 10:37:09 PM
Girona won vs Tenerife and will play again in La Liga after a couple of years from relegation. They will join La Liga with Almeria and Valladolid after the relegation of Grenada, Levante and Alaves.
I find the relegating teams more powerful than these and I am not sure if they can resist there. I think 2 of them at least will relegate by the end of the season.
3097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 19, 2022, 10:23:29 PM
Lukaku is probably coming back to Inter and with Dybala, they will have a good attack.

Dybala-Lautaro-Lukaku

Maybe even too goo and they will end to sell Lautaro.
Spurs is interested in buying Lautaro, Conte knows him and the club seems ready to give a nice offer for him.
Inter will not sell him if both Lukaku and Dybala won't be in, eventually these two are almost with Inter so I assume Inter will let him go once the contracts are signed.
Just one point that needs to be mentioned, the contract of LM will end in 2026, so Inter can ask Spurs whatever they want to let him go to them.
3098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 19, 2022, 06:16:27 PM
Will he get higher salary with Bayern Munich than get from Liverpool last season or he has another reason why leaving Liverpool.
Yes, he will and Yes it was all about the money.
Honestly I respect his decision even if it was 100% about money. Whether you treat everyone the same whether you have to accept the underpaid guys to leave.
I can't work in a place where I am working hard and get paid half what the others receiving.. It is unfair.
If we take it from another perspective, AFAIK Mane is doing many charity actions in his native village, not sure how accurate that was but to say that he isn't "hungry" about the money.
3099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 19, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
Whether Ronaldo goes to Roma or not, one thing is certain for me that Roma should make their squad more powerful in the summer. They made a big improvement generally last season. Jose Mourinho's coming there helped the team a lot about being more successful. They won the Europa Conference League. It must be time they were more successful in the Serie A as well. If they bring the right players to strengthen their squad they can fight for top 4 very seriously.
CR7 joined Juve which in my opinion was more powerful than Roma but they failed to add something. I don't see him able to add something alone for Roma.
If Roma want to claim an european league, or fight for the scudetto they have to strengthen the whole team. I have no doubt about Mourinho abilities and CR7 ones but a single player won't achieve anything alone!
I will wait for the end of the transfer window to have a clearer idea about Roma and the other teams. So far I don't see a game changing transfers.
3100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 18, 2022, 10:54:37 PM
Benzema is rumored to extending his contract with Real Madrid.
Juventus is maybe going for Koulibaly from Naples.
Inter is close to getting Lukaku back from Chelsea on Loan.

Barca will probably not go for Lewa.

Di Maria will give a final decision to Juve before Monday.
The captain will remain in Real Madrid until the end then he might change league to retire.
For Lukaku, a loan seems to be logical after only 1 season..
For Lewandowski, I hear everyday a rumour about him. Yes he will join and Bayern will allow him after Sadio Mane joining them, then tomorrow you hear, no he will not join, Barca can't pay...etc
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