while the block is not confirmed - will not pay. 120 confirmations needed. Be patient for a few hours yet.
All that "panic" for nothing?  |
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I don't get it? Master Nodes get paid additional DRK or 10% of 5? Because the transaction of Block 74548 seems complete
When it happens it'll be 4.5 + 0.5. At least that's how it is on testnet. |
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Someone do a darksend to see if it triggers payments by seeing the proof-of-service.
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But the XC developer claims to have achieved the same in mere weeks what many very smart people have been trying for years. CryptoNote took two years to develop, Zerocoin has been under construction for over a year.
But XC does it in a weekend.
That is why I am skeptical, and what the developer says does not sound convincing.
Actually he said that anonymity will be improved and that right now what he has is alpha / basic mixing with encryption that does not yet beat the bad actor scenario. He has plans to improve it. So what are you talking about? |
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Also, how are you going to add ring sig, the blockchain is completely different and the lead developers of Bitcoin said it's not possible.
Not really. I pointed DRK's dev to the fact that ring sigs create scaling and vast bloat issues that might make DRK a coin that can't be used for mainstream adoption / a DOA product. He said he came up with an idea to get a comparable level of anonymity without the ring sig bloat that he'll implement in RC3. Lets assume he can't get the same level of anonymity without ring signatures. In that case, isn't the bloat worth being the only way to get decentralised anonymity? The bloat prevents the coin from scaling, which prevents it from being used for real life purposes rather than a speculatory proof of concept. Unless Bytecoin devs come up with a better solution regarding bloat, cryptonote tech will have "serious issues". Remember that neither CN or DRK is nsa-proof in itself. And 99.9% of the rest can't see through the obfuscation. So, for practical intents and purposes, cryptonote and DRK are private for all circumstances except NSA unless they improve their design which kind'a places them in the same boat regarding what they can cover (99%) and what they can't (NSA). |
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you do know that <bullshit follows>
1. Do a DarkSend to a specific address 2. Use blockchain explorer to that address to see the funds received in chunks through an obfuscated money flow 3. The money you sent is the exact money received. |
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Also, how are you going to add ring sig, the blockchain is completely different and the lead developers of Bitcoin said it's not possible.
Not really. I pointed DRK's dev to the fact that ring sigs create scaling and vast bloat issues that might make DRK a coin that can't be used for mainstream adoption / a DOA product. He said he came up with an idea to get a comparable level of anonymity without the ring sig bloat that he'll implement in RC3. |
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What's going on with XC? Dev claims to have an anonymous wallet. Claim seems spurious, considering there's no whitepaper and only an extremely superficial explanation of how the technology works. Vaporware scam?
Can't get more anonymous than nonexistant.  Don't underestimate XC despite the lack of wallet right now... they could deliver a mixing service and evolve on it. They seem to have plans for the future. We'll see how it goes, competition is good. XLB on the other hand seems vapor. |
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I think it'll be more than that, but my crystal ball is based on logic, not humans...
LOL BUMP: |
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How will we be able to tell if everything went well with the fork? Are there any signs to look out for? Thanks.
For start we'll see the first 10% block payment to a masternode... then we'll have the late-updaters who have issues with their wallets because they didn't update and will go to update now. And we'll also have some p2pools or some pools mining on the old fork. We can also expect issues with p2pool patches. Given that's it Sunday, some will fix it tomorrow. |
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i got a quick question about masternodes that keeps coming up while debating drk.
does each mn do the mixing alone or do they get mixed through all the mn's?
if the latter is true wouldn't someone need to control 100% of the mn's to track trans?
the reason i ask is because people are saying that the nsa can buy up a majority of the masternodes and track transactions. so if the nsa owned 80-90% of the mn's they could track 80-90% of the trans, is that right? thanks
The plan to fight against this scenario, as described by Evan, was to make multiple DarkSends possible through multiple nodes. So if it goes through 10 nodes for laundering, one must control not 1 or 2, but all 10 to find the money flow. In this way the bad actor scenario is significantly diminished. I'm not sure what the state of current implementation is. I think, from what has been written, that there will be a more eloquent or effective approach in RC3. We'll find out. |
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BUMP again for this page, make sure it's on every page until the hard fork. |
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Darkcoin is a Quark Clone with a straw-man "anonymity" but i still like it because i respect the way in which it was carried out.
There are plenty of Quark clones but DRK isn't one. Different hashtype (11 hashes instead of 5), different coin generation model / different economy, different tech characteristics (masternode payments, per block reward with DGW, darksend), more features to be added (mainstream features) after anonymity development is over, dev commited to evolve the coin over 2 years (jan 14 - jan 16). First 5 months were promising in terms of delivery, another 19 to go in terms of expectation (what he'll bring next). This is a development platform (from which over 25 coins have benefited through copying technical stuff - and more queuing up to copy darksend and masternode payment protocol*). * Which in itself can provide a lot of potential for services over the network, beyond anonymity. |
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What happened with the 900 buy wall ? Did it gen filled or canceled ?
Canceled, price moved way north. |
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It'S not only this. Keep in mind how long Evan has worked on anonymity. And our devs have done this in almost 2 weeks...  By the way I like the X much more than XC. Guys, this is alpha version not final. DarkSend was in alpha in February. Get your expectation in alignment. |
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look at the 4 Anon coin
Dark coin：0.024BTC
Mro coin：0.0055
QCN：0.007
XC：0.001
so XC has a long way to go???
The first three coins have a wallet that you can send money anonymously. XC doesn't yet so it's underpriced. If the wallet is released => moon The anonymous market will have a large market cap and it can fit many players.
so XC will hit 0.005 soon???Who knows. |
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look at the 4 Anon coin
Dark coin：0.024BTC
Mro coin：0.0055
QCN：0.007
XC：0.001
so XC has a long way to go???
The first three coins have a wallet that you can send money anonymously. XC doesn't yet so it's underpriced. If the wallet is released => moon The anonymous market will have a large market cap and it can fit many players. |
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BUMP again for this page, make sure it's on every page until the hard fork. |
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can someone please help me return my bitwisdom chart to the standard view? it currently looks like this:  i'm not actually sure how i managed to change it, but it should look like this:  EDIT: Sorry i just realised this isn't in the appropriate thread It's the time intervals. You've selected WEEKS instead of hours. (higher part of the screen) |
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