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3101  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 10:33:16 PM
Is there going to be a Roulette or Craps type of bet where I can just bet on say, Spanish speaking country (Even) or non- Spanish speaking country (Odd)?
3102  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
News: Titcoin bounces above Paycoin again:



Nice to see Titcoin perking up, I have more than a handful that I have been fondling hanging on to keeping a close eye on holding uhhh storing?, waiting for them to bounce loose from where they have been sagging lately.  Roll Eyes

Just trying to keep everyone abreast of the situation....
3103  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 09:49:34 PM
The fact that there are thousands of people who will blindly send every bit of information necessary to steal their identity to this stinkin' con man- AFTER they KNOW he is a stinking con man is yet another sign that Idiocracy is upon us.

However, according the movie of the same name, the smart people end up running the world.  Not a bad idea...

*Except that the people passing as "smart people" are actually idiots who just appear smart when compared to the absolute morons that the rest of the population are.
3104  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 09:36:54 PM
The fact that there are thousands of people who will blindly send every bit of information necessary to steal their identity to this stinkin' con man- AFTER they KNOW he is a stinking con man is yet another sign that Idiocracy is upon us.
3105  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 09:04:49 PM
Just saw Titcoin bounce above Paycoin on Coinwars for a couple of minutes. Paycoin now around the ~$7/day yield for 1THs.
3106  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Hashing Verified Services; There has to be at least one that's for real??? on: December 17, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
Obviously you should invest all of your money with GAW. After all, they have a guy with a vest that says you will always get paid Tuesday if you give him a hamburger today, so there you have it. Problem solved.
3107  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitmain wouldn't cancel my order on: December 17, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
Two possibilities here.

A: You are a total and complete moron.

B: You are a criminal seeking somebody of description A to send you BTC.

A. Maybe
B. Theres no reason for me do this.

I was here just for the fact someone from BitMain would help me.

So your reply is to say "Maybe" you are a moron, and that you have no reason to rip people off? I can think of about $1,200 reasons why you would want people to buy supposedly ordered gear which is a on a slow boat from China from you . I would say that perhaps you are both A and B.
3108  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 07:07:36 PM
A hint of the next best thing after HashStakers? Smiley

https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/545261254127144962

Quote
Josh Garza
‏@gawceo
There should be a crowd funding platform to help developers launch their own cons. Hmmmmmm

I fixed one of his ubiquitous "typos" (is cantFingspellio a word??) so it says what he actually meant.




ArrrrggghhhMmmmmm. Con flavored doughnuts with crunchy lie sprinkles. Homero LIKEY!
3109  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
XPY exchange rate is collapsing, along with rental prices

https://coin-swap.net/market/XPY/BTC

Below 0.02 and 13 BTC total demand depth (used to be around 0.03 not long ago, 100+ BTC demand)

https://c-cex.com/?p=xpy-btc has slightly higher rates.

https://www.nicehash.com/

1 TH/s price ~0.04 (used to be 0.10+)






Yep, The party may be over folks. I switched back to NH this morning after goofing with some direct XPY mining last night in which I barely made a little more than the rental would have, and then saw the rental rates dropping, XPY yield predicitons dropping, and the crazy rental bids drying up.  Had I waited until right now to sell it would have been less as the price nosedives. About 15 minutes ago miners started beeping as they switched from the NH .04/TH/day threshold to my second option which is set to NH .03 on all of my heaters. Debating whether to change the threshold to .02 to keep them going on NH. Even @ .02 it is over the average BTC pool yield.
3110  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitmain wouldn't cancel my order on: December 17, 2014, 04:48:47 PM
Two possibilities here.

A: You are a total and complete moron.

B: You are a criminal seeking somebody of description A to send you BTC.
3111  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 01:43:28 PM
tbh i like the concept of primes and orions. Also love POS over pow.INteresting to see how its all pull off..... then ill clone it and have a pro coin!

Better get yourself a vest and maybe a stupid hat, too. That seems to be the magic wand that turns certain people into idiots who who blindly throw their money at you.
3112  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
After a small test yesterday afternoon I calculated that in *theory* my return would be more by mining XPY directly, so I set all of my heaters, 1.8 THs , at Multicoin's XPY pool last night. I promised to share my results, so here is my payout after 12 hours of mining @ 1.8TH:



My last two 12 hour shifts on NH paid about .075, so it looks like this will be a bit better, providing I dump these right now, which will yield about .09 BTC. Not to shabby for 12 hours of mining. Too bad it is not the figures that are still showing in the pool stats at Multicoin:

 Shocked

Better dump the matured ones right now before the morning price dip occurs as all the miners scramble to dump first I guess. This is kind of like buying green bananas when you are 90 years old.... Cheesy



3113  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 17, 2014, 03:53:46 AM
3114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Paycoin on: December 17, 2014, 12:20:08 AM
Thanks for the answer. I decided to give it a go. At first I tested with an S1 and an S3 and the yield after two hours looked like I was going to make quite a bit more than my rental income, so I decided to put all of my heaters on XPY. If it turns out that I am chasing butterflies I will switch back to renting in the morning.
3115  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
Hmmm, seems to be getting a little better now. I guess there is some heavy fuel coming down the lines today. Is 6,296 XPY a decent yield Huh?



Let's see, if an S1 and a stock clock S3 are going to yield $50,000 by tomorrow morning maybe I should point my whole collection of heaters there and I will be able to buy a small island by Friday....
3116  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 08:59:11 PM
Alright, I was eating lunch and decided I just had to see for myself what the return rate of mining XPY really is. I directed an S1 and an S3 @ Multicoin pool and here is what I saw when I looked at the pool stats:



Looks like I will be raking in about 1,181 XPY by this time tomorrow! Either that or there is some reporting error.....Hmmm Roll Eyes

Whatever it turns out to be I will post my return for all to see. I have a funny feeling my yield is going to turn out to be maybe just a little less than this prediction... Cheesy
3117  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
Genesis block 0 was empty. No coins and no trnsactions. Block 1 (first block after the genesis block) was mined for 12,000,000 coins. Many on HT says this was not pre-mining. If it is not a pre-mine then what the fuck is it?

00:45:38

{
"hash" : "0000000e0a66049e6c3dff958a3c5bd7de957869f4fb7de82d4c2869819e180a",
"size" : 266,
"height" : 1,
"version" : 1,
"merkleroot" : "bc464dabcff3a1a415f3929d70b049f5211adc26311bec7d2b4519ff0616a771",
"time" : "2014-12-12 05:10:03 UTC",
"nonce" : 178866433,
"bits" : "1d0fffff",
"difficulty" : 0.06249911,
"mint" : 12000000.00000000,
"previousblockhash" : "00000e5695fbec8e36c10064491946ee3b723a9fa640fc0e25d3b8e4737e53e3",
"nextblockhash" : "00000000005abecff9a573e179c7de15f394aea86b57c2a499a1a249875bf9e1",
"flags" : "proof-of-work",
"proofhash" : "0000000e0a66049e6c3dff958a3c5bd7de957869f4fb7de82d4c2869819e180a",
"entropybit" : 0,
"modifier" : "0000000000000000",
"modifierchecksum" : "5189c78a",
"tx" : [
"bc464dabcff3a1a415f3929d70b049f5211adc26311bec7d2b4519ff0616a771"
]
}


These are not the 12,000,000 coins you're looking for.

3118  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 05:41:41 PM
The more I learn about this coin it just gets goofier by the minute.

Q: What to do about people getting wise to pre-mines of alt coins and avoiding anything with more than a couple percentage points of pre-mine?

A: Pre-mine 95% of the coin and hire some really good marketing fellas to convince everyone it is a great thing.

I recall a quote from this German fellow with a funny mustache who was an ace at mis-leading people:

Quote
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
3119  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
This thread has 10 years worth of AMD/Intel type of trolldom rolled into one little lump. Tasty!  Tongue

Brass Tacks: What yield are people mining Paycoin actually seeing??

I could care less about all of the holier-than-thou BS and brand identification trollery. I just want to know if it would be better to take my miners off of renting and directly mine Paycoin? The yield predicitions I see on Multicoin pool jump around so wildly they make Firefly coin look a bedrock of stability.

Around .076 btc per th/s in a 24 hour period

Thank you. That is around the number I was getting by trying to average the wild prediction swings. I think I will stick to renting. My last payout was .074 / 12 hour shift for 1.8 TH. Not as good as a couple of .05 / 6 hour shifts I had a couple days ago when this nuttiness began, but still the best thing going. Nicehash went to 12 hour shifts last night, must be overloaded.....
3120  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 16, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
Thanks for the answers, that is what I had pretty much summed up myself. I guess the question is whether to try to be one of the guys who gets a $20 buyback before the show money runs out and they slam the doors shut on the buyback window. I have been renting out my rigs these past days to the "believers" and was just wondering if maybe I was missing something and should mine some of this latest greatest scamcoin myself. Multicoin pool is showing about a 10 XPY/day potential for my 1.8 Th, and at the current going rate of $9 would  = $90, which is right about what some fools are paying me to mine today.

I doubt it's anywhere near 10 XPY per day for that hashrate, more like 5, and it's less than $9 now too. I other words, renting out is a safer bet in a declining market like this - if your ultimate goal is BTC, and not XPY.

This seems to be the logical choice, and the one I have made thus far although I have the wallet and signed for yet another pool so I could give this a whirl if it was indeed going to show a better return. Oh well, I guess I will just stick to selling shovels for $100 each. Cool
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