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31021  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc. on: April 20, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
Creating criminals is job security for corrupt, dumbass  police, government agencies, etc in u.s.  How long can an evil trash regime remain in power?

The thing that is a crime in the legal world, is not necessarily a crime in the lawful world - in America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other places around the world. It is only a lawful crime if there is harm or damage done.

The accused needs to require that the accuser get on the stand (in court) and speak into the record under oath, the damage or harm that was done to him by the one accused. The damage or harm must be evident. And there must be a tie-in from the accuser to the one accused... evidence and a witness that the one accused did it.

If the accuser is wrong in his accusation, the accused can require payment in the amount that would have been required from him.

However, if the ignorant person who is accused doesn't know this, he isn't going to require anything from his accuser, and he will lose. The prisons are filled with ignorant people who have been sent there with nobody having been harmed or damaged.

See http://voidjudgments.com/.

Cool

Jails are full of people that could not make bail,that could not afford a lawyer and the mentally ill.
You take those people out of the system and you see a big drop in the prison population,its not a race issue,its a economic issue.
The facts about the system are also misleading because we are slowly heading more to the guilty now prove innocence model in some aspects of the law.

Everyone has his day in court. If he had his head screwed on, he would immediately require that his accuser be sworn in and that he be sworn in as well. This would eliminate all the cases where the plaintiff is the government, because the plaintiff government can't be sworn in. Government is only paperwork, and paperwork can't take the oath or affirmation and get on the stand.

From prison, it is difficult to do anything in law at a later date. In prison, you need to sign paperwork giving a friend or relative the power of attorney for you regarding you false imprisonment. They need to re-open your case, or file a new one, where a harmed or damaged person must come before the court. It is more difficult, but it can be done.

One of the greatest words in law is "property." Let the one in prison sign paperwork that he has been the property of his relative since the two of them were alive. Then, let the relative require his property returned to him, and get a surety bond in case the government is afraid that the one in prison is dangerous to the outside world.

This process for getting a friend or relative out of prison can take as little as two weeks. Remember one thing about this. If you get your friend out, you are responsible for his actions. Don't do it if he is dangerous, or you might wind up in prison for something he does bad after you get him out.

Cool
31022  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc. on: April 20, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
Creating criminals is job security for corrupt, dumbass  police, government agencies, etc in u.s.  How long can an evil trash regime remain in power?

The thing that is a crime in the legal world, is not necessarily a crime in the lawful world - in America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other places around the world. It is only a lawful crime if there is harm or damage done.

The accused needs to require that the accuser get on the stand (in court) and speak into the record under oath, the damage or harm that was done to him by the one accused. The damage or harm must be evident. And there must be a tie-in from the accuser to the one accused... evidence and a witness that the one accused did it.

If the accuser is wrong in his accusation, the accused can require payment in the amount that would have been required from him.

However, if the ignorant person who is accused doesn't know this, he isn't going to require anything from his accuser, and he will lose. The prisons are filled with ignorant people who have been sent there with nobody having been harmed or damaged.

See http://voidjudgments.com/.

Cool
31023  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 08:43:15 PM


Okay. I'll say it real simple. The prophets of God are given authority by God.

If a prophet is not given authority by God, he is not a prophet of God.

There are multitudes of prophets around. Look at all the financial gurus who try to predict what will happen in the money markets. Some of these prophets are appointed by other people. Some of them appoint themselves.

Is that what you were looking for?

Cool

How did "god" give them that authority, show it to me please.



Well, I can't show you how God gave and gives His prophets authority. The best I can do is tell you how to find out about it. The way you find out about it is to read the whole Bible. Read it in a modern translation of it in your "best" language. If that isn't enough, study how the Bible came into being, and all about the nation of Israel from its first beginnings.

Cool

All religious texts have been written by men. All prophets and gods are made by men. The truth is to recognize that we are all "prophets" of our own destiny:- what we believe in influences our future.

I would agree if you had said, regarding gods, "many" or "most."

The laws of science might be false, and it may be proven to be false sometime. For example, the simple law of gravity is true. We all see the evidence, and there is no evidence that it is lacking somewhere that we know of for a fact. But it just might be proven that gravity is something else sometime, like inertia in an expanding universe that is accelerating in its expansion. So far, not, though.

The laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy show that God exists when combined. Whatever and Whoever God is, He exists, and that without mankind.

When the scientific laws can be proven false, then we might be able to say that God doesn't exist from a scientific standpoint.

Cool
31024  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 08:21:43 PM


Okay. I'll say it real simple. The prophets of God are given authority by God.

If a prophet is not given authority by God, he is not a prophet of God.

There are multitudes of prophets around. Look at all the financial gurus who try to predict what will happen in the money markets. Some of these prophets are appointed by other people. Some of them appoint themselves.

Is that what you were looking for?

Cool

How did "god" give them that authority, show it to me please.



Well, I can't show you how God gave and gives His prophets authority. The best I can do is tell you how to find out about it. The way you find out about it is to read the whole Bible. Read it in a modern translation of it in your "best" language. If that isn't enough, study how the Bible came into being, and all about the nation of Israel from its first beginnings.

Cool
31025  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 20, 2016, 08:16:12 PM

Astrology is just another religion

Your mom is a religion...

Is your avatar what you really look like? Or is it only part of your religion?

I admire fine art... It's a painting I took a picture of while in Paris 20 years ago
Now that you mention it, I might have seen pictures of it before.


Why must everything revolve around religion and trolling?  Are you retarded?  Did you parents not love you enough?

Because everything DOES revolve around religion, and because all people are liars.

Why do you ask if I am retarded? My IQ has a limit, just the same as everyone.

What does my parents' love for me have to do with anything? Besides, their love and their ability to show it are two different things. Can anyone get into the hearts of his parents to check out the depth of their love for him?

You ask some strange questions.

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31026  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
we can base our religion on faith in what God tells us.

What has "God" ever said, I have a problem when the Universe is personified into "God". Gods are all figments of our own and collective imagination. No God has ever uttered a word.

Jesus was God as well as man.

Jesus-God spoke the universe into being.


Moses and the other prophets of the Bible were told by God spiritually what to write.

When a person doesn't know the history of the Bible and the nation of Israel, it is easy for him to think that God hasn't spoken through these people. But those who have studied the Bible and how it came into being, along with the nation of Israel and its history, realize that these things couldn't have come into being without God making them to exist.

Cool

On whose authority are any "prophets" given that status?

On the authority of God, working through Moses, to do miracles through Moses, which destroyed the people of Israel who didn't do what Moses said.

The orders that Moses gave for future prophets said, that if what the prophet said didn't come to pass essentially every time he prophesied something, he was not a prophet of God. Many so-called prophets died at the hands of the people of Israel who realized that the prophet was a false prophet by the fact that the things he said didn't come true.

Saint Paul in New Testament times did a few miracles that showed he had the power. Some of the miracles were against bad people. That's what it is all about. The power.

Check the history of the Bible and Israel in detail to see that the Bible has the power.

Cool


Answer the question: -
On whose authority are any "prophets" given that status?

Doesn't seem to do any good to answer the question. You don't read the answer. I am responding with this post, in case I didn't understand what you were saying, or if you were saying it to me. Ah, please clarify what you mean... if you want.

Cool


Identify the authority by which "prophets" are given that status, that is who you are serving. All prophets get their authority from other humans.

Okay. I'll say it real simple. The prophets of God are given authority by God.

If a prophet is not given authority by God, he is not a prophet of God.

There are multitudes of prophets around. Look at all the financial gurus who try to predict what will happen in the money markets. Some of these prophets are appointed by other people. Some of them appoint themselves.

Is that what you were looking for?

Cool
31027  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 20, 2016, 07:52:42 PM

Astrology is just another religion

Your mom is a religion...

Is your avatar what you really look like? Or is it only part of your religion?    Cheesy
31028  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 07:49:29 PM
we can base our religion on faith in what God tells us.

What has "God" ever said, I have a problem when the Universe is personified into "God". Gods are all figments of our own and collective imagination. No God has ever uttered a word.

Jesus was God as well as man.

Jesus-God spoke the universe into being.

Moses and the other prophets of the Bible were told by God spiritually what to write.

When a person doesn't know the history of the Bible and the nation of Israel, it is easy for him to think that God hasn't spoken through these people. But those who have studied the Bible and how it came into being, along with the nation of Israel and its history, realize that these things couldn't have come into being without God making them to exist.

Cool

On whose authority are any "prophets" given that status?

On the authority of God, working through Moses, to do miracles through Moses, which destroyed the people of Israel who didn't do what Moses said.

The orders that Moses gave for future prophets said, that if what the prophet said didn't come to pass essentially every time he prophesied something, he was not a prophet of God. Many so-called prophets died at the hands of the people of Israel who realized that the prophet was a false prophet by the fact that the things he said didn't come true.

Saint Paul in New Testament times did a few miracles that showed he had the power. Some of the miracles were against bad people. That's what it is all about. The power.

Check the history of the Bible and Israel in detail to see that the Bible has the power.

Cool


Answer the question: -
On whose authority are any "prophets" given that status?

Doesn't seem to do any good to answer the question. You don't read the answer. I am responding with this post, in case I didn't understand what you were saying, or if you were saying it to me. Ah, please clarify what you mean... if you want.

Cool
31029  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 1984, BY George Orwell on: April 20, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
What Aldous Huxley author of Brave New World had to say about this book:

"Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."

Its interesting I think we get a bit of both books in todays culture.

However, even if conditioning is continued, generally it weakens enough and finally fails over time.

Some of the best conditioning is done by violent converting to Islam, which uses Stockholm syndrome. But even this doesn't always last.

Cool
31030  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 20, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
Astrology is back, and has been for a long time. Nowadays it has a sister called modern science. Both of these are attempting to upset the authority of God again. Once more God will upset the foolishness of mankind. But this time, it will be a complete destruction of the whole universe.



To be fair, I have mixed feelings on astrology... I give it more credit than religion, which is obviously false

All of the psychic stuff complete bunk... like horoscopes, mediums, palm readings, tarot cards, etc

But, I have not been able to say for certain that star charts are bunk... these trip me up with their accuracy and predictive qualities (the few times I've actually looked at them), similar to science... it could just be coincidence, I just can't say for sure

Astrology is just another religion.    Cool
31031  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 20, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
Astrology is back, and has been for a long time. Nowadays it has a sister called modern science. Both of these are attempting to upset the authority of God again. Once more God will upset the foolishness of mankind. But this time, it will be a complete destruction of the whole universe.

Cool



The beginning of Psalm 14:
Quote
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.

The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.


Cool
31032  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 07:16:43 PM
Caesar's Messiah, Christianity and Mind Control with Joe Atwill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNtF1-Y-JJM&list=PLt3Pke412qVfwwdCHRjc2l7h13hDJhPgD&index=2

When you can control a narrative you can conjure into existence a "god" to parasite the gullible  

And when you die, you lose control of your narrative.    Cool
31033  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 07:15:13 PM
As long as science keeps on making up these fantastic theories, and then believing them to be true without proof, and barely any evidence, they are pushing science into the realm of strong religion.

Cool
Well this is a refreshing change. At least your admitting that a strong religion like Christianity is based upon no proof and barely any evidence.

Maybe we're managing to pry those tightly shut eyes of yours open at long last. Just a tad mind, but least it's a start.  Well done! Smiley

Well, thank you, again, for showing us that you can't read, and that you don't really know very much. But, that is like most of us, isn't it? At least until we learn. Why don't you learn?

The fact that the universe operates through cause and effect, and the fact that it is very complex, and the fact that we find nothing other than universal entropy... these three universal facts prove that God exists. If God didn't exist, one or more of these three facts would have to be non-existent, as well.
Oh, so one minute your saying science has fantastic theories without proof and barely any evidence, now in your next post your saying science proves God as fact.  Make up your mind.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

That's the problem, when someone starts believing a crazy mixed up book, they themselves start getting crazy and mixed up in the head too. And the deeper they're into this book, the more mixed up they get.  You're very mixed up.  Smiley


But I do want to thank you. The more you prompt me to say this, the more opportunity people have to see and to start to understand.

My question is, do you understand?
Cool
Oh, yes I understand exactly what your trying to do. Don't worry about that, I can read you like a book.




Well, spell it out simply, the thing that you understand, and what you read in me the "book," so that everyone can understand.

Cool
It's now beyond any resonable doubt to everybody on here your not interested in God or the truth. That's quite clear. Absolutely no interest what-so-ever.
You are however very keen in attempting to deceive us by sucking us into your religious cult and worshipping your extremely obvious false god.


Jesus was God as well as man.
Assumption.

Jesus-God spoke the universe into being.
Assumption.

Moses and the other prophets of the Bible were told by God spiritually what to write.
Assumption.


Oh, you and all your silly assumptions about the facts that I offer.     Cheesy
31034  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
we can base our religion on faith in what God tells us.

What has "God" ever said, I have a problem when the Universe is personified into "God". Gods are all figments of our own and collective imagination. No God has ever uttered a word.

Jesus was God as well as man.

Jesus-God spoke the universe into being.

Moses and the other prophets of the Bible were told by God spiritually what to write.

When a person doesn't know the history of the Bible and the nation of Israel, it is easy for him to think that God hasn't spoken through these people. But those who have studied the Bible and how it came into being, along with the nation of Israel and its history, realize that these things couldn't have come into being without God making them to exist.

Cool

On whose authority are any "prophets" given that status?

On the authority of God, working through Moses, to do miracles through Moses, which destroyed the people of Israel who didn't do what Moses said.

The orders that Moses gave for future prophets said, that if what the prophet said didn't come to pass essentially every time he prophesied something, he was not a prophet of God. Many so-called prophets died at the hands of the people of Israel who realized that the prophet was a false prophet by the fact that the things he said didn't come true.

Saint Paul in New Testament times did a few miracles that showed he had the power. Some of the miracles were against bad people. That's what it is all about. The power.

Check the history of the Bible and Israel in detail to see that the Bible has the power.

Cool
31035  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti-Atheist Bigotry: Atheists Are As Distrusted As Rapists on: April 20, 2016, 07:04:48 PM
Atheists are not as bad as rapist. They do not violate your free will.
Because, just like theists, they are not smart enough to know how to live freely except that they go to God for the instructions God has placed in the Bible.

Wait, did you just say religious people are too stupid to know how to live without reading instructions from bible?

In a lot of ways, yes. And so are the rest of the people.    Cool
31036  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti-Atheist Bigotry: Atheists Are As Distrusted As Rapists on: April 20, 2016, 07:03:22 PM
Atheists are not as bad as rapist. They do not violate your free will.

Their problem is that they don't realize how using their freedom to rape (for example) actually takes their freedom from them. They start to realize it when they are thrown into prison, where they lose a lot of their freedoms.

God damn it you are such a stupid fucking asshole

Atheists are the most moral of all people (evidenced by statistics)... 20% of Americans are Atheist, yet only 0.2% of prisoners are Atheists... do you need any more statistics than that?

According to prison statistics, Christians are 10,000% (100x) more likely to commit a felony than an Atheist...

People like to think Blacks commit more crimes than White people... but it's only like 3-to-1... Christian vs Atheist is 100-to-1... Basically, Christians are the ones committing the vast majority of crimes in America... statistically proven to be true

Tsk, tsk. How you talk! Just be glad God doesn't take your freedom away for how you misuse it.

How's the statistics for how many before-prison atheists find religion when inside?

As far as Christians doing worse than atheists (if your statistics are even accurate), the devil already has the atheists. He doesn't need to work so hard on them. He is trying to get the Christians, so he focuses on tempting them. Since Christians are only people, they often fall for this greater tempting to do wrong. Doesn't mean they are less saved as Christians... or that atheists will be saved at all as long as they remain atheists.

Turn while you can, and be saved for eternal life. As it is, you are throwing your freedom away.

Cool
31037  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 05:21:05 PM
we can base our religion on faith in what God tells us.

What has "God" ever said, I have a problem when the Universe is personified into "God". Gods are all figments of our own and collective imagination. No God has ever uttered a word.

Jesus was God as well as man.

Jesus-God spoke the universe into being.

Moses and the other prophets of the Bible were told by God spiritually what to write.

When a person doesn't know the history of the Bible and the nation of Israel, it is easy for him to think that God hasn't spoken through these people. But those who have studied the Bible and how it came into being, along with the nation of Israel and its history, realize that these things couldn't have come into being without God making them to exist.

Cool
31038  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti-Atheist Bigotry: Atheists Are As Distrusted As Rapists on: April 20, 2016, 04:51:00 PM
Atheists are not as bad as rapist. They do not violate your free will.

Yes, but. An atheist believes in freedom. If he didn't, he wouldn't freely do the things that religions say you shouldn't... like raping.

The trouble with atheists is not in that they love freedom. Loving freedom is great. Their problem is that they don't realize how using their freedom to rape (for example) actually takes their freedom from them. They start to realize it when they are thrown into prison, where they lose a lot of their freedoms.

Now, I am not saying that all atheists are rapists by any means. I am not even saying that the majority of atheists lack understanding of how to be free in a general way. I am simply saying that their idea of freedom from God isn't really freedom. Why not? Because, just like theists, they are not smart enough to know how to live freely except that they go to God for the instructions God has placed in the Bible.

Cool
31039  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 04:41:14 PM
Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion.

What?!

Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying.

Cool

yeah and bibile can explain it all with so much detail that even a kid can understand it. wow im so impressed  Shocked

As I attempted to say above, here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1418441.msg14607732#msg14607732, neither science, nor religion, nor the science religion explain everything in detail.

Science is limited mostly to things that are not important. Science doesn't explain the most important things, the souls and spirits of people, and the spirits of animals and plants... although scientists are finally trying to apply science to these.

But religion talks mostly about these important things.

Neither has the theoretical detail down in a factual way that can be tested. If science has such, it is theory no longer. Rather, it is fact.

Since science has proven that God exists, we can base our religion on faith in what God tells us. This doesn't prove something that God says to be true. But that is what religion is all about... faith, not proof

Science theory that is believed in as truth is religion by the believing, same as other religions... by the believing in something that has not been proven to be factual.

Cool

31040  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 04:26:47 PM
Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion.

What?!

Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying.

Cool

Religion explains everything about the world. And it describes nothing in any detail that anyone can understand, so important religious books can be interpreted different by different scholars -- leading to radically different explanations of how the world works.

Science may not explain everything, but at least it is internally consistent.



No, religion doesn't explain everything about the world. For example. Show me where Christianity talks directly about that one weed growing between the cracks in the pavement outside your apartment. No explanation exists about that weed in the Christian religion. A broad generalization might exist, wherein the weed might or might not exist. But religion falls far short of explaining everything about the world. Why does it fall far short? Because that isn't what religion is there for.

Science is there to explain everything about the world. But it does not. Science is not internally consistent. For example. There are 3 major Big Bang theories that are all different. There are 4 Black Hole theories that are distinctively different. There are scientists who understand that none of these have been proven to be fact. There are other scientists, some of which believe in each theory. There are still other scientists that believe the theories aren't true, but that something like them is true.

Science is picky in the detail area. Because of this, when it doesn't find all the details, it is almost useless.

Religion covers the broad generalities. Religion is better than science, because religion shows all sorts of things that science will never be able to show, because of the complexity of nature, the universe, and life. That's the reason why many scientists have turned science into a religion for themselves, by believing in parts of it that have not been proven to be fact.

Just like other religion, scientists have turned science into religion, hopeful and believing that parts of science are true, when in reality these parts have not been proven to be true... just like religion.

Cool
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