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31041  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ARE NOT MUSLIMS on: April 20, 2016, 04:08:42 PM
I agree with this statement.
Nobody is bad because of his religion, race, nationality, sex etc.
We are good or bad persons based on our character and personality, not because I'm Christian and you are Muslim.
Unfortunately, after each terrorist attack people forget it and start to accuse all Muslims or even Islam for the evil deeds of a few people.
It's not right attitude and thinking.
We should do better and show tolerance and acceptance to loyal Muslims in our local communities.
If we don't do this, more Muslims will feel isolated and unwanted in their European countries and this may help further radicalization of young Muslims in Europe.



Except for one thing. There is a major piece of thinking about this whole thing that always makes it very unclear. Here is what it is.

The Koran and the Hadiths essentially order Muslims to be terrorists against people of other religions at times.

The Christian Bible New Testament forbids Christians from being violent to other people, always.

What does this mean? It means that if a Muslim is not a terrorist against people of other religions some of the time, he is not a good Muslim. He might still be a Muslim. But he is not following the requirements of his religion if he is not being a terrorist some of the time. Many of the Koran and Hadith orders for Muslims to be terrorists against people of other religions can be found here http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx.

What about Christians? There are no directives for Christians to do violence. Check the New Testament, the part of the Bible that speaks to Christians. Orders to do violence are not there. Who are the weak Christians? Weak Christians are those who are terrorist Christians. Why are they weak? Because they are not following the rules and directives of Christianity as found in the basic place where Christianity comes from... the New Testament.

Cool
31042  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Haven't We Met Aliens Yet? Because They've Evolved into AI on: April 20, 2016, 02:14:39 AM
We havent met aliens yet because they are shy.

No they are not. Look at them out there on the dance floor.    Cheesy
31043  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 20, 2016, 02:09:22 AM
Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion.

What?!

Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying.

Cool
31044  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A German comedian could be sent to jail for insulting the Turkish president on: April 20, 2016, 02:07:06 AM
Freedom of speech should have a limit, people mix these things when hit the limit and most of the people in this case would do like erdogan. I know people make jokes and humor but not to exaggerate it.

Where will you put the limit at? Making fun of a president is definitely not crossing the limits. I have seen hundreds of Western comedians making fun of non-European heads of state, such as Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Hassan Rouhani, and Evo Morales. None of them have been prosecuted. So my question is, what makes Recep Tayyip Erdoğan any different from them?

Limit is at ...........

Reached the limit.       Grin
31045  Other / Politics & Society / Re: $100 Million Project to find alien life on: April 19, 2016, 09:36:57 PM
They wouldn't recognize an alien if one was sitting on their shoulder. And they wouldn't tell you if they found an alien.

Cool
31046  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ARE NOT MUSLIMS on: April 19, 2016, 09:33:00 PM
Wen you look at http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm, you see that MUSLIMS ARE NOT MUSLIMS AND TERRORISTS ARE NOT TERRORISTS.

Cool
31047  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A German comedian could be sent to jail for insulting the Turkish president on: April 19, 2016, 11:49:45 AM
I have seen this in local news and the comedian deserve it, a joke has a limit and comedians should not make jokes about presidents like this comedian did, Erdogan does not tolerate even in his country so lets see what will happen with this comedian in germany.

That was supposed to be the difference between Turkey and Germany. Germany claims to be a democracy with the freedom of speech granted to all the residents. On the other hand, Turkey is an Islamic dictatorship where the freedom of speech does not exist. If the German authorities behaves the same way as those in Turkey, then how can they claim to be any different from the Turks?

On the Wikipedia common law page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law, there is a map of the world legal systems. This is an excellent map. It shows that Germany is not exactly the democracy that people think... neither is the United States.

Germany is a civil law country. A great and short description of civil law, along with a comparison to common law (United States), can be found at Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_%28legal_system%29 where it says:
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Civil law, civilian law or Roman law is a legal system originating in Europe, intellectualized within the framework of late Roman law, and whose most prevalent feature is that its core principles are codified into a referable system which serves as the primary source of law. This can be contrasted with common law systems whose intellectual framework comes from judge-made decisional law which gives precedential authority to prior court decisions on the principle that it is unfair to treat similar facts differently on different occasions (doctrine of judicial precedent, or stare decisis).

Basically, the point about civil law is that a government set up that way is virtually a dictator over the people of the nation. There isn't really any democracy. Government rules by giving itself best benefit by allowing the people democratic-like freedom. Without freedom, people don't benefit the ruling class.

Since the idea of democracy is majority rule (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy), the United States isn't really a democracy, either. Why not? Because supreme law is vested in the court system in the States. No matter what law is democratically set up in the States, a jury can judge the law to be of no effect in a case. Such is called jury nullification, and the jurors are the judges in the common law court system of the United States. Such a thing is not available to the people of Germany.

Cool
31048  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 19, 2016, 11:28:00 AM

Please don't be too upset. Like as there are people who believe the stupidity of Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory (not that black holes don't exist, but that the theory about what they are is a bit nuts), there are also people who are going to focus on something and call it the work of Satan.

Youtube search on "Graham Hancock" and watch a few of his videos. A major point that will become clear by doing this is that Stonehenge is not unique. The astronomical alignments that have been attributed to Stonehenge, are also found in many ancient sites around the world.

The point for Christians is that, although sites like Stonehenge were astronomically aligned, they were often being used by the ancient peoples for astrology. And ancient astrology was being used to upset the authority of God in the hearts and minds of people. Then God upset ancient astrology by sending the Great Flood of Noah's day onto the earth, thereby rendering these astronomical/astrological sites useless, because there weren't any people left to use them for a long time.

Astrology is back, and has been for a long time. Nowadays it has a sister called modern science. Both of these are attempting to upset the authority of God again. Once more God will upset the foolishness of mankind. But this time, it will be a complete destruction of the whole universe.

Not to worry, however. Since people only last about a hundred years max, anyway, the destruction of this universe will open a place for mankind in a new universe that God is making, where there will be no anti-God sentiment. Everything will work smoothly in that universe - no pain, no trouble, only love, peace and joy.

Can't wait.

Cool
31049  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: April 19, 2016, 12:30:27 AM
Perhaps Buddhism was meant to be philosophy, and not religion. But for those who embrace it as a religion, it is a religion.

Cool
31050  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: April 19, 2016, 12:27:48 AM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.




i dont think atheists (im atheist) hate religion, i think they (like me) hate what religion do to people, like wars, dived families, abandon and things like that

Simply another point that shows that atheism is a religion. How? Because atheists do all these evil things as well.

Cool

Poor logic.

If some A = C and some B = C and some C = D, it does not follow that any B = D.

Take A as god believers, B as atheists, C as evil deeds and D as religion.




Bro, you can't use login in an argument against an overly religious person or a muslim. You need top go lower, use their language. Let me try now.... Uga,uga oooga booga bogaa ugh

I think BADecker is a smart person. He or she just has an intellectual blind spot when it comes to Christianity.



Stand me up next to any other average person. What do you see?

Some of these people are more intelligent that I. Some are less.

Some are smarter; others are less smart.

Some eat more; some eat less.

But we all have the same DNA to within 99.9999%... even if the pronounced DNA isn't quite the same in all of us. We all need air to breathe. We all need water to drink. We all need food to eat. We all need clothing and shelter. We all have emotions. We all have religion. We are very similar.

Some of the less sensitive among us don't recognize that we all have religion. It doesn't mean that their beliefs and activities in life aren't religious, or that those who understand that we are religious are more religious. It just means that the so-called irreligious people don't think about their religion in the same way as those who recognize that everyone is religious and has religion.

Cool
31051  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Why aren’t we earning enough to live?" – The Divide lays bare global inequality on: April 18, 2016, 09:57:51 PM
That is the reason why I always think and say that the world is so unfair. The world does not belong to rich. Their riches and wealth have nothing to do. The world only belong to those who have pure hearts. How can this rich getting richer and poor became poorer. The law must need to change for justice.

Perhaps. But think about the info in my post, above.

Many of the people who built those mansions that are abandoned, were poor. Then they figured out ways to be rich. Then they became so rich that the mansions were useless to them, and it wasn't even worth the time for them to sell them. So they left them.

You can do the same thing. Anybody can if he wants to figure out the way to do it. If the law is changed, you will not have your chance to do it anymore.

So, what do you want? A pure heart or wealth? Let those with hearts that aren't pure have their wealth. You go and figure out how to have wealth in a way that is right, so you keep your pure heart along with your riches. If the laws change, you won't have this opportunity.

Cool
Well I just thought that the law have nothing to do with the pure heart. Well those poor people who built mansions and left them realize that wealth is not more important than morality. Well it is good to be rich but in a good way.

The only people who have pure hearts are those who have believed in Jesus salvation, and have washed their sins away in His blood, shed on the cross. Jesus tells these people to continually obey the two greatest laws... love God above all things, and love their neighbor as themselves. All the rest of the laws hang on these two great ones.

We don't know why those people built their mansions and left them. The articles about it seem to indicate that the mansions were only some kind of catalyst to making greater wealth, and leaving them was the way to secure that wealth.

Cool
31052  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 18, 2016, 09:52:32 PM
science is never like a religion because it has no boundries.
and in science you have to hurt people.
it will never be a religion.

God has no bounds, or boundaries, as you say. He is limitless. But science is limited by the things that it can find out.

If you think that science has to hurt people, do you mean like when the housewife calls her range science, and then burns her hand on it?

Science is a religion because people trust in it like they should be trusting in God.

Cool
31053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Human essence - biological mud on: April 18, 2016, 09:47:49 PM


The devil is down there. That's why we are having all these earthquakes, like in Japan and Ecuador. The devil is trying to get out. He's smashing his fists against the inside of the earth trying to break free. And the more people talk against God like the atheists do, the happier and more optimistic the devil becomes. One of these days he will break free. Woe to the world when that happens.




The devil is not shaking his fist and trying to get out, he is not yet bound.
The people who say that the millennium is yet to come are mistaken. Revelation 20:1-3 says:
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And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

The angel that came down out of Heaven is Jesus. The key and chain are the Word of God and the strength that Jesus has in obeying it perfectly. The thousand years is not literal, but is figurative for a very long time. The abyss is death, and that is where Jesus sent the devil when He arose from the dead. In earlier translations the abyss was translated as the bottomless pit. A pit at that terminated at the center of the earth would be bottomless, because gravity would pull equally in all directions. The setting free is being done by people calling for the devil rather than for God.

The devil is not shaking his fist. He is pounding against the inside of prison center-of-the earth, ready to come up. He is already awake and alive as the people of the world (especially Islam) have asked for him... whether they know it or not... by rejecting Jesus salvation.


Earthquakes are because the foundational rocks of the Earth are moving slightly against one another.

The Earth is continually rotating, so the foundations of the Earth move from time to time and this movement is observed along their meeting points [fault lines] that is when earthquakes occur.

Good theory. But nobody knows this, or can tell why he thinks it in convincible detail. It doesn't really explain why the foundations move against each other. Of course, nobody really knows that. But, the devil/abyss theory explains it very well.

Cool
31054  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Human essence - biological mud on: April 18, 2016, 08:01:01 PM
When we die, our souls come out of our bodies. Those heading for heaven have to travel through a particular tunnel of light all the way out of this vast universe. This universe ends at the gate of heaven and the souls go in through the gate one at a time.

So the human essence cannot LEGITIMATELY travel through space unless it is dead. Souls that illegitimately travel through space do so with the help of demons and they have to return to their bodies on Earth after a particular period of time, else they'll die.

Souls that go to hell do not have to travel through space. Hell is here INSIDE Earth, it is located midway within the Earth crust.

The devil is down there. That's why we are having all these earthquakes, like in Japan and Ecuador. The devil is trying to get out. He's smashing his fists against the inside of the earth trying to break free. And the more people talk against God like the atheists do, the happier and more optimistic the devil becomes. One of these days he will break free. Woe to the world when that happens.

Cool
31055  Other / Off-topic / Re: How about before BIG BANG ? on: April 18, 2016, 07:38:08 PM
How do you know that there was a big bang?

What do you mean? After all, Google it. Wikipedia has articles on it. Of course, it didn't exist before Hawking invented it, did it?

Cool
31056  Other / Off-topic / Re: 50 $ in 2 hours??? on: April 18, 2016, 07:34:27 PM
In 2043 I completed my time machine invention. It was expensive to build, and took a long time.

In 2043, minimum wage will be $200 per hour. So I sent back 10% of my earnings to myself in this time. That way I could have enough money to work on the time machine.

I wouldn't tell myself how the TM worked. I said that doing so might jeopardize the time stream somehow. So I gotta invent the thing on my own.

I am getting the $200 per hour from the future me, so I know I will invent it by then.

 Cheesy
31057  Other / Off-topic / Re: How about before BIG BANG ? on: April 18, 2016, 07:27:34 PM
The only before Big Bang is before Hawking. Big Bang is science fiction.    Cool
31058  Other / Politics & Society / Re: $100 Million Project to find alien life on: April 18, 2016, 07:25:00 PM
There has always been and will always be hunger etc.

The X prize drew a lot of private investment in to the space industry so why not the search for ET.

Personally I dont trust that NASA would reveal the truth of any findings.

A private mission probe to Mars or Europa with $100 million prize is far more likely to get to the truth.



When I say alien life - I mean bacteria and up, not little green men running around anal probing earthlings Smiley

Alien probing is the only thing a few of us look forward to when the aliens come to say hello.
If they are not cross breeding or eating us,what else does that leave for them to come swing by!



I heard they are still on their way to get Mark Karpeles as they had a shit load of bitcoin in MtGox.  The incomprehensible vastness of space is just slowing them down slightly.

Mark is an alien, one of their own. That's the real reason they are having such a hard time getting him. He knows how they think.

 Grin
31059  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 18, 2016, 05:55:14 PM
science is not religion. science is a field of science that studies the science on this earth. while religion is a spiritual bond between man and his god. it was clearly different.

Both were clearly described, Truly science is not a religion because its based upon the innovation and technology of the proofs. Religion is just based upon the bonding which happens without any reason.

This is not entirely true.

Science has theories. Theories might be based on facts, but in a theory the facts are presented in a new way that is not known to be factual. If a theory is believed as truth without finding out that it is truth, you have a religion going by people having faith in something that is not truth necessarily.

The foundation of most religions is God. God has been proven to exist by science, and shown to exist in nature. The questions about God have to do with knowing about Him, more than that He exists. This is where God-religions come from.

Religions that don't accept the existence of God, are very strong religions. Why? They have to fight the proofs and evidences in science and nature. They are strong because their believers have to have very blind faith to avoid looking at nature and science.

Cool
31060  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: April 18, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.




i dont think atheists (im atheist) hate religion, i think they (like me) hate what religion do to people, like wars, dived families, abandon and things like that

Simply another point that shows that atheism is a religion. How? Because atheists do all these evil things as well.

Cool
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