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3121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: my MyEtherWallet/account was emptied on: August 21, 2017, 02:50:49 PM
Do you remember which spreadsheet you posted your private key? If that's a campaign, and you know what that campaign is, then there is a chance that you can track who withdraw your balance in your Ethereum wallet. Simply check the TX ID on Etherscan and copy the wallet address of the person who receives your balance. Now try to check if that wallet address has a similar address in the spreadsheet or if it has a similar address to any of the participants of the campaign. If you find out who that person is, and he is one of the participants, then make a post in the Meta section and tag him/her. Let everyone know that s/he stole your money. Remember, since that's a campaign spreadsheet, only you and those who are also in the campaign will notice your private key, including your campaign manager. In other words, there is a high possibility that only one of them could have done it to you. But of course, do not defame that person or anyone in the campaign unless you have all the evidence you need to back it.

Good idea & thanks for your effort... unfortunatelly neither the spreadsheet nor Google knows anything about the owner.
As trading my assets onto it where the first transactions on this wallet it seems, this was a fresh one...

Meanwhile I wrote 2 messages to Mr. X, just in case somebody is interested...:

Nr. 1

First of all: sorry COSS-Devs. for abusing this thread for a not-content- but personal-related issue:

"My desperatety and hope in the same hand - a honest word from a man to a man."


Dearest finder of my MyEtherWallet-Private Key,

I know you are within the community with regulary checking the updates in COSS-Bounty-Spreadsheet and if you read this, you know that these words are adressed just to you.

My name is Stefan, I am 34 years old, living in Germany and having a relationship since nearly 8 years (even though I am not the smartest neither the prettiest guy under the sun and my DNA did not give me the best out of the pot, but that´s how it is).

I havn´t been a good person all my life, I have to admit, I have good sides and some not so good, just like everybody, I think, that´s part of you and me as of everybody else in our time being on this wonderful planet.

I  worked hard and good, as my boss attested, but since few years I am on the way to find out, what I really want in life and I think "helping others with their problems" and "make others feeling good or at least better describes it best." (to be honest I wasnt meaning giving such a huge gift to somebody... Wink )

For having time doing so, I recently decided to quit my job to focus on myself and other human beings more than on carreer. This in my country basically means "trowing your pension in the toilet", but no regret, I enjoy the life, making jokes, smile as much as possible, try to make myself and the people arround me happy. Understood that with smaller things I can make some small impact for good, so actually in Spain picking rubbish from the beaches, nothing to get to much honor for, but still it feels like a good thing.

I am afraid of the dentist (to be honest I panic and gramp whenever I have to go...) but more afraid of the skin-doctor, as my skin looks like vanille-pie with small, but dark chocolate flakes on it.
If it turns out I have skin-cancer (what I consider a 40:60 chance) I will be fucked as I can´t - without the funds you found – afford paying any threat, fair enough, this is my problem only.
 
And last but not least – I am a human being, making mistakes and this time I did it big time by copy&paste my private key instead of my public address to the Coss-bounty-spread and wasn´t aware enough of what might happen to my account in this new world – I learned my lesson or at least started to last night.


But enough said of myself now, I dont want to make you fell asleep – anyway thanks for reading so far – let´s talk about you.

We both, you and me decided to enter this anonymous world activly, so I don´t know you and I probably never will, but what I know is that behind each and every public address & private key there is a real person, not numbers and letters, but a human being with feelings and emotions, with problems and joy - just as you, just as me, just as behind every 0x....... - number there is somebody with his or her own story.

Now you know mine, I don´t have bad feeling towards you as it wouldnt change things if I would do and I don´t want to annoy you with talks about carma. You were the lucky one how fund my exposed key and just did what most of us what have done immediately, me included. Now you hold the key, you are the one who can decide what will happen with my savings.

Probably you will find a way to liquidate the assets and spend it for some things, that would be your good right, mate. I am not entirely sure if you could enjoy all these gifted things, but probably you could, I don´t know, you can estimate it.

But for me there is a little light in the end of this entirely dark tunnel, now that some days past by and more to come, you maybe already found or will find yourself thinking about this twice.

I believe in the good in the everybody´s heart, I always did, I actually do and most probably will always do so till the end of my days.

Even if this would be an incredible huge move for yourself and I consider it is not very certain, here is my newly generated account: 0xfF75a727e4113F40f007489BADF5941931Ed6372 just in case you won´t find anything good enough to spend my money for and instead you decide to roll back the time, you would be make an even bigger impact to my life.

Thanks in advance
Stefan

Nr. 2:

Dearest finder of my MEW-Private-Key...

now a few days passed by since I told you my story, still I won´t give up hope and continue to believe in the good in everybody.

--- Who missed it: don´t bother , just make sure you never publish your private key anywhere in the Internet! Wink if you are interested in short: While attending the bounty-promotion I put the private key (instead of my Public Address) of MyEtherWallet in the form and not far later my Wallet was emptied – of course
--- Let me point out that this was 100% my mistake as a human being doing to many things in the same time that lost few % of concentration and zooom, happened – no way back... most probably.

Back to you, dearest finder. Since 10 days nothing happened, so probably you are (not yet?) decided to do the big-heart-step sending it "back" to my new wallet, I understand & expect that.

The last days I thought a lot about it & want to make an other offer... to you, to me, to the nature:
For every 0,5 ETH you release back to my new wallet I will clean one beach/area from waste (glas, plastic etc.) whereever in the world I will be by the moment the next 0,5 ETH step is reached.
As "proof of work" I will post a picture (place/website to be announced later) of myself with the result (filled rubbish-bag) to make sure, I do my part of the job.

In case you decide that this is the way the -step by step- release my funds, please let me know, that you accepted the "make the world a better place challenge" by sending the smallest possible (or the first 0,25 ETH) amount to my new wallet 0xfF75a727e4113F40f007489BADF5941931Ed6372

Love & peace
Stefan

P.S. Thanks @ COSS-team & BCT-adimn(s) to let me publish this here even though it has nothing to do with you.

Thanks for your condolecence, guys, this already helped a little to find the way back to the top of the hill, will be hard & steep, but I will try it... Cheers, Stefan
3122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO]COSS Token Swap on: August 21, 2017, 01:37:45 PM
Dearest finder of my MEW-Private-Key...

now a few days passed by since I told you my story, still I won´t give up hope and continue to believe in the good in everybody.

--- Who missed it: don´t bother , just make sure you never publish your private key anywhere in the Internet! Wink if you are interested in short: While attending the bounty-promotion I put the private key (instead of my Public Address) of MyEtherWallet in the form and not far later my Wallet was emptied – of course
--- Let me point out that this was 100% my mistake as a human being doing to many things in the same time that lost few % of concentration and zooom, happened – no way back... most probably.

Back to you, dearest finder. Since 10 days nothing happened, so probably you are (not yet?) decided to do the big-heart-step sending it "back" to my new wallet, I understand & expect that.

The last days I thought a lot about it & want to make an other offer... to you, to me, to the nature:
For every 0,5 ETH you release back to my new wallet I will clean one beach/area from waste (glas, plastic etc.) whereever in the world I will be by the moment the next 0,5 ETH step is reached.
As "proof of work" I will post a picture (place/website to be announced later) of myself with the result (filled rubbish-bag) to make sure, I do my part of the job.

In case you decide that this is the way the -step by step- release my funds, please let me know, that you accepted the "make the world a better place challenge" by sending the smallest possible (or the first 0,25 ETH) amount to my new wallet 0xfF75a727e4113F40f007489BADF5941931Ed6372

Love & peace
Stefan

P.S. Thanks @ COSS-team & BCT-adimn(s) to let me publish this here even though it has nothing to do with you.
3123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: my MyEtherWallet/account was emptied on: August 17, 2017, 09:17:16 AM
You all are entirely true, 0% after 100% stupid mistake, and sure: I´ll do everything to be more careful.

In future I will always JUST log in with my json-file + password, what I should have done earlier, but tried once, didnt work, stopped thinking about it and now feel the pain in the ass...

Anyway, we all stay aware, concentrated & positive...

Kind regards
Stefan
3124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Musiconomi - A New Music Economy That Works for Everyone (MCI) on: August 16, 2017, 02:19:08 PM
I would be curious how Musiconomi will affect the use & value of the Musicoin.

Some expectations?
3125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: my MyEtherWallet/account was emptied on: August 16, 2017, 11:44:05 AM
Thanks for all your warm words, mates. I followed the advice of some and wrote an open letter to the one who explored the mistake, now just hoping for the best, I believe the good side in everybody´s heart is strong enough for a move like this, greed might exceed it, though.

3126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO]COSS Token Swap on: August 16, 2017, 08:18:17 AM
First of all: sorry COSS-Devs. for abusing this thread for a not-content- but personal-related issue:

"My desperatety and hope in the same hand - a honest word from a man to a man."


Dearest finder of my MyEtherWallet-Private Key,

I know you are within the community with regulary checking the updates in COSS-Bounty-Spreadsheet and if you read this, you know that these words are adressed just to you.

My name is Stefan, I am 34 years old, living in Germany and having a relationship since nearly 8 years (even though I am not the smartest neither the prettiest guy under the sun and my DNA did not give me the best out of the pot, but that´s how it is).

I havn´t been a good person all my life, I have to admit, I have good sides and some not so good, just like everybody, I think, that´s part of you and me as of everybody else in our time being on this wonderful planet.

I  worked hard and good, as my boss attested, but since few years I am on the way to find out, what I really want in life and I think "helping others with their problems" and "make others feeling good or at least better describes it best." (to be honest I wasnt meaning giving such a huge gift to somebody... Wink )

For having time doing so, I recently decided to quit my job to focus on myself and other human beings more than on carreer. This in my country basically means "trowing your pension in the toilet", but no regret, I enjoy the life, making jokes, smile as much as possible, try to make myself and the people arround me happy. Understood that with smaller things I can make some small impact for good, so actually in Spain picking rubbish from the beaches, nothing to get to much honor for, but still it feels like a good thing.

I am afraid of the dentist (to be honest I panic and gramp whenever I have to go...) but more afraid of the skin-doctor, as my skin looks like vanille-pie with small, but dark chocolate flakes on it.
If it turns out I have skin-cancer (what I consider a 40:60 chance) I will be fucked as I can´t - without the funds you found – afford paying any threat, fair enough, this is my problem only.
 
And last but not least – I am a human being, making mistakes and this time I did it big time by copy&paste my private key instead of my public address to the Coss-bounty-spread and wasn´t aware enough of what might happen to my account in this new world – I learned my lesson or at least started to last night.


But enough said of myself now, I dont want to make you fell asleep – anyway thanks for reading so far – let´s talk about you.

We both, you and me decided to enter this anonymous world activly, so I don´t know you and I probably never will, but what I know is that behind each and every public address & private key there is a real person, not numbers and letters, but a human being with feelings and emotions, with problems and joy - just as you, just as me, just as behind every 0x....... - number there is somebody with his or her own story.

Now you know mine, I don´t have bad feeling towards you as it wouldnt change things if I would do and I don´t want to annoy you with talks about carma. You were the lucky one how fund my exposed key and just did what most of us what have done immediately, me included. Now you hold the key, you are the one who can decide what will happen with my savings.

Probably you will find a way to liquidate the assets and spend it for some things, that would be your good right, mate. I am not entirely sure if you could enjoy all these gifted things, but probably you could, I don´t know, you can estimate it.

But for me there is a little light in the end of this entirely dark tunnel, now that some days past by and more to come, you maybe already found or will find yourself thinking about this twice.

I believe in the good in the everybody´s heart, I always did, I actually do and most probably will always do so till the end of my days.

Even if this would be an incredible huge move for yourself and I consider it is not very certain, here is my newly generated account: 0xfF75a727e4113F40f007489BADF5941931Ed6372 just in case you won´t find anything good enough to spend my money for and instead you decide to roll back the time, you would be make an even bigger impact to my life.

Thanks in advance
Stefan
3127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: my MyEtherWallet/account was emptied on: August 15, 2017, 10:37:08 AM
I know my chances are practically 0%, but maybe somebody has an idea.

I did a huge mistake and lost 10k $ after I put (copy & paste) my Privatekey (instead of my address) into a spreadsheet... so all my assets had been transferred to https://etherscan.io/address/0xda1efbf72db93ce5dfa47e5ff772dde8f19e2065
and sitting there since... is there anything I can do (beside hitting my head against an stone) ?

Thanks in advance
A first stupid, now desperate guy

Did the campaign manager ever notified you that you input a private key instead of ETH wallet? since private key is much longer.


No, unfortunatelly not, just tonight, when I informed him, but that was about 4 days too late...
3128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / my MyEtherWallet/account was emptied on: August 15, 2017, 03:12:42 AM
I know my chances are practically 0%, but maybe somebody has an idea.

I did a huge mistake and lost 10k $ after I put (copy & paste) my Privatekey (instead of my address) into a spreadsheet... so all my assets had been transferred to https://etherscan.io/address/0xda1efbf72db93ce5dfa47e5ff772dde8f19e2065
and sitting there since... is there anything I can do (beside hitting my head against an stone) ?

Thanks in advance
A first stupid, now desperate guy
3129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [VIB] Viberate | Decentralized Music Talent Marketplace on: August 15, 2017, 12:59:51 AM
Last but not least:

Whitepaper 5.4.3.: "so that people, who won’t be able to attend the event...will be able to sell the ticket to other Viberate users via
DTX and charge the price in ETH or VIB."

Did you already planned to make a cap, lets say max. 5% over the regular price, to solve one of the todays bigger problems with the secondary markets ("or an e-Bay ad to purchase the ticket for multiples of the actual price")?

--------------------

I really like a lot of your project, especially CROWDFUNDING LIVE PERFORMANCES and let the user-base update the loads of data and pay them a reward for this are either innovative or smart or both... by the way one of the best whitepapers I ever read, seen from the content itself as well as the graphics and the easy-to-understand-language for non-programmer! Great work !!!

P.S. I love dancing to UMEK-Sets... he should be in Frankfurt-area more often - but hey, maybe I´ll growdfund an event with him... Wink
3130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [VIB] Viberate | Decentralized Music Talent Marketplace on: August 15, 2017, 12:16:49 AM
How can i contribute to on www.viberate.com? What's in it for me?

Viberates true power resides in the people that use it. It has always been this way. If you're a token holder you can either sit back and watch it grow, or you can directly influence the growth of our token by adding or editing artists, inviting friends, announcing gigs and selling tickets. All these actions will speed up Viberates growth and help it gain a permanent foothold in the live music industry. There's an additional bonus to this... By doing all these actions, you'll get rewarded with Vibe tokens which you can stockpile, trade or use on our services. So you see, we're truly a crowd based service where every single individual can make a difference and earn some cash doing it.

While reading I also though "what´s in for me?" and found your answers in Whitepaper 5.2.1.

for 2 of the possibilities I have a question:
• referring friends ---> will you hand out referral links (nowadays more and more don´t like to send and/or receive ref.links) or will you implement an more convenient solution?
• writing editorial content ---> may you give 2-3 ideas?

p.s. on your website you also have mentioned "Adding events into the database" while it is missing in the whitepaper

I love nicehash! Did make big money over nicehash maining 👍🏼

Mate, nothing personal, but the last hours I was re-reading the whole ANN in order to know more about this project.
Your 20+ comments have been the most repeated pain I read for a while including 0 value for anybody.
Whats your plan with all this repeating how much ETH will raise and that you´ll invest 1000+ ETH beside all further short-praisings of the project itself?
3131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [VIB] Viberate | Decentralized Music Talent Marketplace on: August 14, 2017, 11:19:36 PM
Still reading, something crossed my mind:
A friend of mine is co-founder & CEO of an german based start-up that will focus on live-streaming of live-events.
Let me know if this is of any interest to you, too so that I might connect you...
3132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [VIB] Viberate | Decentralized Music Talent Marketplace on: August 14, 2017, 10:30:29 PM
I (think I) found a misspelling on your website (https://www.viberate.io/en/crowdsale):

Avaliable VIBE tokens

(no bug-bounty required... Wink )
3133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [VIB] Viberate | Decentralized Music Talent Marketplace on: August 14, 2017, 10:03:01 PM
I have some questions while start reading and will write them one by one as it seems I´ll have some more and don´t want to forget any...:

In your blog-post (https://medium.com/viberate-blog/how-are-we-different-105180c44630) Vasja said:
"If she wants to look for pubs to book her and charge in Vibes for her performance fee, she goes to Viberate."

I understand Viberate will be good for Sally, but saying this it seems the pub-and club-owners are your (paying) audience/clients you basically need to get on board.

How will you bring  into using your service?

Will most of these "one-man-companies" make the effort to search for artists actively?
(I don´t know any, so I wonder how engaged they are in searching, but I guess there are less pubs/clubs then artists, what means more offer than demand, so that the pub-and club-owners don´t usually make the effort to do the search!?)
Did you do something like a field-research to find out?

And will the pub/club-owners be able to search artists from their town/region (your website says "Each entity profile is furnished with all available social media links and analytical insights" so I assume this will be mandatory in your plans?  

And if there are enough interested pub-and club-owners: how much do they know about crypto´s - e.g. how much will you `teach´ them how to credit the smart-contract with enough VIBE´s to pay the artist ?!

What are your plans for these ´clients´?

Another thought on this: when the problem for the artists are pub-and club-owners the screw them up, will those pub-and club-owners join a smart-contract?

More questions to follow, I think, if I will find the answer on the following pages of this thread, please ignore it ... Smiley

edit: after reading more, it became clearer that your object seems to more address the "medium and bigger clubs" than the smaller pubs...
3134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [UPDATE] [ANN] [ICO] STORM Token and StorMarket: Freelancing via blockchain on: August 14, 2017, 12:11:27 PM
The Whitepaper will be published shortly and we will notify all when it is ready!

Dear dev´s ... I was noting Aug 15th to have internet-access to join your ICO (if the whitepaper fits my expectations), but now after there wasnt updates in the past days/weeks (not to talk about the whitepaper), you might understand that it is not an invest-case any longer.

I (and probably) most of us will understand when there is any problem, but TRANSPARENCY is key-word in ICO´s and this is missing in your case...

Hope for better news to come, good luck so far.
3135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Expected price of ICONOMI? on: August 13, 2017, 02:05:41 PM
Shitcoins value is 0.

Sell. Now.

Hmmm... not even a close guess, hopefully nobody was following your proposal.
3136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 11, 2017, 10:52:53 PM
Hi Lisk-friends... just a question (not sure if it´s the right place)

Aprox. 10 hours ago I did a withdrawal of some LSK (just a small amount first to check if it´s working, of course...) from my Polo-account (and confirmed the following email.

Yet it is still pending... do you know from experience how long it might take in total (or if its normal that Polo-LSK-withdrawal take this time)?

Thanks in advance

Poloniex is Anti-LISK.
They know LISK will crush Ethereum and Bitcoin and all other alts once SDK is out.

Boycott Poloniex and use Bittrex.


Hmmm, alright, meanwhile the payment arrived, but yes, Bittrex before Polo for sure, I use both and yet have to make some withdrawals from Polo... thanks for your answers
3137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Do I need to verified my bittrex account ? on: August 11, 2017, 10:34:00 PM
I don't have a problem with verification per se but I do have a problem handing out personal information to just anybody. If the exchange gets hacked (and they ALL get hacked at some point) then the hackers might have access to very detailed personal information of the users. That's just no good.

Same here, I dont mind drop my pants, but for some reasons I would prefer not to. But now, it seems we have to (at least) when I want to get my holdings out of the 3rd parties hand...  Undecided
3138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO]COSS Token Swap on: August 11, 2017, 10:22:24 PM

Slack is in the spreadsheet, just select the different spreadsheet tab, there's more of them.


I saw but whenever I open it the Slack-section is empty. Is it a problem with my PC/connection or is it just not filled yet?
3139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties on: August 11, 2017, 10:17:04 PM

I love receiving Dev-updates via mail... Smiley

The parts I like most:

"Nearly ¾ of a million wager have been put on the line, which means one thing….

Wagerr. Will. Be. Burned.

As it will be on the live chain, Wagerr will be burning the fees. Should the bet result in Wagerr.com carrying a loss, the team will cover it out of the funds allocated to compensate the original developers of Wagerr. "

and

"We are working on a partnership with a Bitcoin ATM company that would make wagerr integrated into every BTM they deploy, this would make it easier for normal users to get fiat in and out of the wagerr network."

I´ll hold my WGR for quite a while...
3140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ICO WATCH: SALT LENDING on: August 11, 2017, 10:13:18 PM
YOU CAN READ THE FULL ARTICLE HERE:

https://medium.com/@ArrogantPeacock/the-salt-lending-presale-explained-1c18a58df24f

SALT Lending

What a fantastic name for a fantastic product. There have been a lot of discussions about collateralizing tokens and SALT (Secured Automated Lending Technology) is offering exactly that. In a nutshell, instead of selling your tokens (Bitcoin, Ethereum etc.) to finance short or long term obligations, you “store” these tokens in the SALT platform as collateral, and receive the corresponding value of those tokens in cash, deposited to your bank account. A simple, innovative and technologically advanced solution that can easily compete with outdated traditional banking loans, crippled due to their complex, expensive and bureaucratic loan process.

There are so many innovations coming from SALT, that it would be hard to list everything here.

What is of greater interest however is the “distribution” of the SALT Membership tokens and specifically the “Discounted Sales” which is the biggest stake of the total SALT Membership allocation (45.42%).

SALT intents to sell 1 Membership for $10.00 when the service launches

As the time of writing, the presale is still open and offers the following discounts:

2 million Memberships for $3.00 each
1.5 million Memberships for $5.00 each
1 million Memberships for $7.50 each

This means there are 4.5 million ((2 + 1.5 + 1 = 4.5)) “discounted” Memberships currently available

For the total sum of $14.5 million ((2 * 3) + (1.5 * 5) + (1 * 1))

These 4.5 million Memberships sum 8.26% of the entire 54.5 million “Discounted Sales” allocation that has been “available”

So…what about the 50 million Memberships ((54.5–4.5)) that were distributed up until now?

You might have noticed how harmless “Membership” sounds instead of using the word “token” or “asset”.

These 50 million Memberships are 91.74% of the entire “Discounted Sales” allocation; you would expect to find some sort of information regarding their distribution. I would like to spare some of your time, and tell you that such information is not available. SALT has never officially announced their presale. For a company that lists one of their values as “Trust”:

You would expect some transparency, openness and community engagement — which are prerequisites for trust.

The entire presale distribution is based on none of that. It begs the questions whether a fair portion of this 91.74% has not been distributed or bought by insiders for ridiculous $0.01 discounts per Membership, or might have even been bought by SALT themselves via third parties. The company has complete control over the demand of its “discount” Memberships; the only way to buy into these discounted tiers is if SALT has verified your account, which they can do at whatever rate and pace is convenient to them, that would allow the company to buy their own supply and “adjust” demand accordingly (by verifying accounts later). Why would you sell a Membership for $3.00 if the interest clearly exceeds that value, you would simply buy it yourself and let anyone in line pay $5.00 for it, at a later point in time (note that SALT has not set specific date for their presales, they simply announced the sale five days before it takes place).

The “investors”, who would think they are buying “discounted” tokens are actually paying a premium for them (there have been apparently other presales before this tier discount of $0.25, $0.75 and $1.5 / Membership). To make our calculations conservative, we’ll use as a base discount of $1.5 / Membership, as previous discounts could not be confirmed, which would translate to:

Anyone buying the “discounted” rate of:

$3.00 — pays a premium of 100%
$5.00 — pays a premium of 233.33%
$7.50 — pays a premium of 400%

Damn… and the public sale has not even started

This all might be rubbish of course, and the analysis above might be incorrect. Asking a legal expert affiliated with SALT would surely help to clarify things. Fortunately, SALT has a Telegram group which anyone can join, unfortunately, anyone mentioning anything about previous discounted tiers will get banned. After asking Emma Channing, legal expert and executive vice president of The Argon Group (SALT’s legal and crowdfunding partner) about the early distribution allocation, the following reply ensued “the numbers are the numbers”. Three seconds later my account was banned. There have been other users who were banned from the group, who were unfortunate enough to have the same concern as I did.

Nevertheless, as already mentioned, SALT is something special and provides a fantastic product to a multi trillion dollar worth industry. There will definitely be enough interest and the company will not have a problem raising the funds that it needs, but the discount sales allocation is something that will haunt the company in the long term and we might experience some display of contempt against the project in the future.

Pass me the salt *throws it off the table*

That's the best first post I ever read.


My opinion...also this email that they send is index of the their low  transparency:


"Howdy,

I wanted to thank you for taking the time to fill out our SALT lender survey. It's really helpful to have this data.

In your responses, you indicated a willingness to lend. I have an interesting opportunity that I would like to discuss with you. If you would like to get more information, please call me directly as this is time sensitive. My cell phone number is:

XXX.412.XXXX

If you are not in the US, you can reach me on Skype at xxxxxxx.

Thanks again. I look forward to hearing from you.

--
XXXX
XXXX Business Development Officer"


Sir Salt, do you will want offer another discount  of the discount Huh

Why they do not say to we exactly how much  is been the their salt's charge price Huh


What about just calling the provided number and listen to Mr. Salt´s idea?! Smiley
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