cant carry a firearm into a different state, feel much safer in delhi being able to carry my side arm. and Ghaziabad is pretty hostile, better safe than sorry.
LMAO. |
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offtopic, are you from hackforums? Probably Seen you there some days ago and i wish i didn't have lost my LR, otherwise i would have bought all your bitcoins  unlucky me. |
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Ghaziabad to dangerous.
you can keep the bitcoins.
or you can sell it to me just have to walk over to my place in east delhi . i'll buy it for the amount i said nothing more nothing less.
If you ever decide to sell, those are my conditions.
Haha XD, you guys can meet at vaishali metro station. It's safe |
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Well whois data of mtgox.de .net and .org is same. and mtgox guys are acting dumb. https://twitter.com/c0k3in/statuses/339716874373849088https://dazzlepod.com/ip/74.86.83.82/who.is data of mtgox.de Domain holder: Christian Schmitz Address: Dr August Blank Str 7 Postal code: 51373 City: Leverkusen Country: DE Administrative contact The administrative contact (admin-c) is the natural person appointed by the domain holder to act as his/her authorized representative and who also has the duty towards DENIC of taking binding decisions in all matters concerning the domain mtgox.de. Name: Christian Schmitz Address: Dr August Blank Str 7 Postal code: 51373 City: Leverkusen Country: DE Technical contact The technical contact (tech-c) supports the domain mtgox.de with respect to technical aspects. Name: Martin Hetzner Organisation: Hetzner Online AG Address: Stuttgarter Strasse 1 Postal code: 91710 City: Gunzenhausen Country: DE Phone: +499831610061 Fax: +499831610062 E-mail: info@hetzner.deZone administrator The zone administrator (zone-c) supports the name servers of the domain mtgox.de. Name: Martin Hetzner Organisation: Hetzner Online AG Address: Stuttgarter Strasse 1 Postal code: 91710 City: Gunzenhausen Country: DE Phone: +499831610061 Fax: +499831610062 E-mail: info@hetzner.deTechnical data Name server: ns.second-ns.com Name server: ns1.your-server.de Name server: ns3.second-ns.de |
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Thanks for warning and yeah i have seen mtgox.de on google advertisement.  Looks like they are using adsense.  |
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This reminds me of the saying 'First they came for the......'
I believe this may apply here.
Nobody's doing anything as there is adequate justification for seizing bank accounts based on some spurious petty minded regulations.
When they come for the Bitcoin related services there will be a well established track record enshrined in case law built on seizures like the Dwolla accounts and this Liberty Reserve case.
Agree with you and all the peoples who are thinking bitcoin is untouchable will might cry in future. I bet all those peoples who are saying "LR deserves to get shutdown, bitcoin case is different" probably doesn't even ever used LR before. They think only legit peoples are using bitcoins and US govt won't do anything. They are forgetting "Bitcoins" untouchable thinking will attract more cryber criminals and one day US govt will Ban bitcoin related everything in america. |
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1) Assuming LibertyReserve was *actively* and *knowingly* engaging in money laundering or whatever illegal activity the government wanted to drum up, then yes, I presume they deserve to be shut down for operating under the guise of a law abiding business and are easily attackable as a consequence. 2) Bitcoin though? What law is being broken by Bitcoin? Why would he 'come after' bitcoin, and much more importantly, how would he? Through the exchanges? See #1 above. There is no proof of libertyreserve's owner or LR as a currency directly being involved in cp and other illegal things. Peoples are using it for illegal things. Peoples are using bitcoins too and i understand that you guys have too much blind faith in bitcoin but hey are you forgetting about silkroad and other sites on TOR and don't forget that those peoples who were doing illegal deals with LR will move to bitcoin now. They don't have another choice. |
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They were linked to child porn among others, I guess this will be something totally unacceptable to the public.
Who LR? probably but, bitcoin is more popular on TOR Deepweb (The hub of child porn). and yes cp is unacceptable but still peoples are running TOR nodes and helping them. |
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Americans can wire any amount of money they want into MtGox once verified so they aren't being refused.
Yes i know, i was talking about other non US exchangers. |
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Wrong.
Mt Gox operates from Japan (this is not a US state, in case you were still unsure)
This means the Japanese authorities would have to cooperate with the US extradition orders and subpoenas etc. That won't happen. Costa Rica and Spain will give up the Liberty Reserve people. Japan won't be giving up Mt. Gox, or at a least not without an inordinate amount of backdoors arm-twisting. And when you look at both the political and the public sentiment towards the US in Japan lately, you'll realise that's also pretty unlikely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties |
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I also have a month of unused VPS, and 1.5 months worth of VPN service. I'll leave them to expire  Or you can run something usefull on it. VPN,IRC,some forum etc. For only 1.5 month? How that can be useful? If it gets successful, you can ask donations and run it for more time. |
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Lots of non US exchanges are refusing to service US customers.
I wonder if this is going to be the future for MtGox - kick out all the Americans ?
They are refusing US customers because if they want to do business with americans they need to register their business in america and comply with their rules and regulations. So if MTgox worked according to US law and regulations nothing will happen, otherwise they had to refuse US customers or probably they can get seized by US govt. |
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So BTC was up around $1 Billion and LR was around $6 Billion?
If all those people migrate to BTC could we see BTC increase by x6?
Then when the US Government makes it 90% impossible for Americans to exchange, will the value crash to nothing?
Japan (where MtGox is located) their economy ain't doing that well either, probably ahead of US for economic collapse and could probably get shut down there by Japan Government if not cockblocked by US Government already. Most of the BTC exchanges are in USD not GBP or Euro, right?
I don't think so, because peoples don't have those funds, they are seized and yes that's true. |
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Don't be foolish. Liberty Reserve was a centralized service that didn't do shit to comply with regulation. You could register your account with a fake name and move hundreds of thousands of $.
Yes i know it was a centralized service that's why US govt seized them easily and and comply US regulations why? Just Because US peoples were using it? US govt have already banned LR in USA last year and do you even knew how it used to work? They didn't had deposit/withdraw option. So You can't just register account and move your money in it, You have to buy LR from some exchanger to get LR funds and almost all of them used to require identity proof from peoples. To the contrary, Bitcoin is a decentralized currency, and the biggest services that deal with Bitcoin do care to comply with regulation.
It's not just about paying tax, When they seized LR, they said, they closed it because Hackers/criminals were using it for drugs,childporn,trafficking,money laundering. Same thing is happening with bitcoin, the only difference with bitcoin is it's decentralized but only currency, exchangers,other trading companies are still centralized. |
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I also have a month of unused VPS, and 1.5 months worth of VPN service. I'll leave them to expire Or you can run something usefull on it. VPN,IRC,some forum etc. |
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Not really. Bitstamp seems to be legitimate and legal. MtGox has done it's best to be legal minus this stupid issue about not telling the bank what they were doing in good faith. Major fuck up there.
Liberty reserve was obviously criminals. Everyone knows that.
BTC-e I think is real grey area. They aren't clear if they are legal are not. If they aren't then yes, eventually the government will get them. If they are legal, then they are fine.
Remember the government just wants you to pay taxes and follow regulation. If you do this, you'll be fine.
If US govt wants US citizens to pay taxes and follow regulations, then why they seized other country based digital currency and their bank accounts in several countries. Not only fucking USA citizens were using Libertyreserve but still they seized it. Fuck US LAW. They said it's getting used in criminals activites,drugs,childporn, bitcoin is getting used too. They said LR used to allow peoples do money transfer with high anonymity,Bitcoin is doing same. |
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Exactly! Let the government Liquidate Bitcoins' competition for us.
and then ban bitcoin in america and seize all american bitcoin exchanges/companies. It will be easy for them. They are Govt. They can do anything. Yes, please! Let them seize all the Bitcoins they can find and DESTROY them! So the remaining ones will skyrocket in price  And don't forget that a) Bitcoin solves a lot of practical, real life problems. It will be used regardless of it being legal/illegal because there is a demand for it (check if prohibition got rid of gambling, drugs, prostitution, etc.); b) Bitcoin is in no way similar to Liberty Reserve, as it cannot be taken down unless you take down the internet; c) everything illegal, comes with a premium. No fear my friends. Keep'em coming. They can't seize bitcoins, but they can make price go down, and if panic started, you can just pray. A. LR was in demand too B. I never said they can seize bitcoins, but they can ban bitcoin related exchange sites/companies etc in USA like they did with LR in past, that time other countries exchanger (sites) will stop accepting US customers and price will fall. |
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I am selling some bitcoins 4-5 for NEFT/Bank deposit.
I won't go first,Escrow accepted (you will pay fees)
Rate: 8000 Rupees per BTC. (If you don't like my price don't post)
Ps: I have Axis bank account.
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