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3121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 06, 2014, 12:37:12 PM
Ukrainian Army will be strengthened by Maidan forces:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/06/army/
3122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 06, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
They said that drinking water is not a problem, yet crops might need to be abandoned this year.

Sad to hear that. But what about the next year? Since Crimea is not connected by land to mainland Russia, a canal can't be constructed from the latter. What can be done to get the agricultural water?

New water pipeline from Russian mainland should be complete before the end of 2014.
I posted some quotes to that end a few pages back.
3123  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 06, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
Grin Kazakhstan has banned the use of the orange-black ribbon on May 9. And not for nothing - this will be a key element in Moscow's provocation strategy.
What used to be a symbol of victory over fascism in 1945 has now been turned into a symbol of Kremlin fascism. It will never be the same. It is the new swastika


http://nedelya-ua.com/news/kazahstan-zapretil-nosit-georgievskie-lenty-na-den-pobedy

Reading through the comments it shows just how any decision is  splitting people apart . Banning something will just make that thing more interesting for people opposing the government that took that decision.

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ДССегодня 06:18
Ложь, не подкреплённая фактами. В Казахстане Георгиевская ленточка остаётся символом победы над фашизмом. Зато есть мнение, что западная Украина - оплот современного фашизма. Твари неблагодарные..

"Lie, not supported by facts," says one commentator.
Looks like that post came without any official backing from Kazakhstan. I am considering it a provocation from Ukrainian neo-nazis until further info is supplied.
3124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 06, 2014, 11:16:46 AM
The song by Yurij Antonov - Bullfinches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP4MpX68jUo

It's the post-war song dedicated to the Nazi-blockaded Leningrad, where flocks of bullfinches on the snow is an allegory of red blood spilt.
The song is relevant to the present day events of Nazi-blockaded Slavjansk and the blood spilt in Odessa and the South-East Ukraine.
3125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 06, 2014, 10:20:03 AM
From: https://twitter.com/kp_steshin

* Ukrainian Army abandoned the Kramatorst airport. The reason is comic: The owner came, told everyone to get the hell out, and presented a damages bill. Smiley
* British press awaits Russian invasion. The expectoration from the civil war of 1918 "the Brits are shitting" gets a whole new, but relevant meaning these days.
* Airport in Donetsk stopped handling airplanes until Monday
* Cossacks arrived on the 5th to defend the South-East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi20JwfkB1c&sns=tw
3126  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 06, 2014, 09:11:58 AM
The best thing they can do is burn the resources, burn the pipelines, sow the ground with salt, anything to make the Ukraine worthless otherwise the trouble wont end until they're slaves of one side or the other.

Even that won't help, as the ground would still be worth a lot for building NATO military bases right on Russia's border.

And to answer your question, there was not much choice to begin with.
Ukraine is an artificial state, built from incompatible regions, grabbed from other states (Russia, Poland, Hungary, Romania) each with its own dominating ethnic group, language and mindset.
Plus during its existence as a state, it existed as a part of USSR, with tight economic and industrial integration with the republics, mainly Russia and Belorussia.

3127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: May 06, 2014, 09:01:22 AM
The following article, and the quotes and references that it gives, explore NATO's subversive agenda:
http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2383878/obamas_new_ukraine_a_russophobic_failed_state_ruled_by_fascists.html

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"The crisis in Ukraine is not the result of 'Russian aggression,' but of a criminal strategy by the US and its European allies to install a hostile regime on Russia's borders in Ukraine and, ultimately, dismember Russia itself." - Johannes Stern, NATO boosts military build-up against Russia as protests spread in east Ukraine, World Socialist Web Site
3128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 06, 2014, 08:40:07 AM
3 killed, 10 missing after clashes between Ukraine army and pro Russia groups near village of Semyonovka.

Obama's new Ukraine - a Russophobic failed state ruled by fascists

http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2383878/obamas_new_ukraine_a_russophobic_failed_state_ruled_by_fascists.html

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The chaos, terror and civil war in Ukraine is the deliberate creation of the Washington war machine, writes Mike Whitney. It is just step one of an offensive aimed at Russia - and that should raise loud alarms among all who care about our Earth's future.

This is a very good article!

Poles should be equally worried as Russians about a failed state at their border:

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Just last week, members of this openly fascist party, commemorated "the perpetrators of the massacre of Yanova Dolina" where "600 Poles were murdered by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) in what is now Bazaltovoye. The massacre marked the beginning of ethnic cleansing in what is now western Ukraine, where tens of thousands of Poles were killed within a few months." (World Socialist Web Site)

IMF is a happy camper:

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"The International Monetary Fund warned that if Ukraine lost territory in the east it would have to redesign a $17 billion bailout of the country, probably requiring additional financing." (Ukraine attacks rebel city, helicopter shot down, Reuters)

And history repeats itself:

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"As Bismarck (said) 'We must cultivate among the Ukrainians, a people whose consciousness is altered to such an extent, that they begin to hate everything Russian.'

"Thus we are talking about a historical psy-op, an information-psychological sabotage, whose purpose is to establish Russophobic Slavs ... They are the means to separate Ukraine from Russia and to oppose Russia as a kind ... totalitarian empire.

Now, look up Janisary and see how they were cultivated (hint: captured Bulgarian boys brought up to hate their ancestry):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
3129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: May 06, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
NATO’s record 6,000-strong drills kick off in Estonia amid Ukraine tensions
http://rt.com/news/156928-nato-military-drills-estonia/

Why so many? Eh?
3130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 05, 2014, 07:06:33 PM
EU ambassadors could not agree on new sanctions against Russia:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/05/n_6131721.shtml
3131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 05, 2014, 07:03:40 PM
Ukrainian army conducted an extermination punitive action against self-defence forces in Slavjansk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0OFAfL5Q0
(from war correspondent Alksandr Kotz)
3132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 05, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
Many among the Odessa police are refusing to follow orders from Kiev. They dropped their shields and left:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k18w4dI8cxY

There is still hope for Odessa.

Right Sector, Kiev and USA does not want the truth getting out:

$10,000 a head: Radicals put a bounty on UK journalist in Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/156892-ukraine-radicals-bounty-journalist/
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Ukrainian radicals have put a bounty out on RT stringer Graham Phillips, who is currently working in the east of the country. Also a camera-man working for RT in Odessa has been informed about being on the radicals' radar.

“Myself I have received threats putting a bounty on my head to be kidnapped and that has been offered from [the city of] Dnepropetrovsk, as I understand, connected to the Right Sector,” Graham Phillips confirmed while reporting live from the city of Slavyansk.

...

“Our camera-man-stringer in Odessa received a call from the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU). [They] said that he is now on the radar of the Right Sector. [His] former colleagues gave him up. SBU said that the Right Sector now has all his phone numbers and addresses. They gave him up for his anti-Maidan views which he never kept secret,” Simonyan posted on her Twitter.

...

“Ukraine’s Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and other regions are witnessing the ruthless suppression of civil liberties on a daily basis. Journalists are being threatened with their lives if they continue to report from Ukraine,” the letter reads, signed by the heads of All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK), NTV, REN TV, Channel 5, RT and News Media.
 
3133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 05, 2014, 05:10:22 PM

Is there any way to verify this information? According to the Russia Today, the death toll stands at 46, with only 16 identified so far. The Kiev junta says that the number of casualties is only 38.

It's only the word of the local council deputy. It all depends on when the bodied of the murdered will start being extracted from the building. They are still kept inside.


Repost from the other thread:

https://twitter.com/kp_steshin
From Izjum a multi-kilometer long convoy of armoured vehicles is proceeding to Slavjansk. Hold on! (Relayed by Dmitrij Steshin from a message received from a friendly German journalist on the other side of the lines).


Two Right Sector radicals captured near Slavjansk, who tried to enter the city with weapons hiding in an ambulance car:
http://www.aif.ru/society/safety/1162857
3134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 05, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
https://twitter.com/kp_steshin
From Izjum a multi-kilometer long convoy of armoured vehicles is proceeding to Slavjansk. Hold on! (Relayed by Dmitrij Steshin from a message received from a friendly German journalist on the other side of the lines).


Two Right Sector radicals captured near Slavjansk, who tried to enter the city with weapons hiding in an ambulance car:
http://www.aif.ru/society/safety/1162857
3135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 05, 2014, 04:29:45 PM
An illuminating sanctions list of US treasury:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Pages/ukraine.aspx

from master page:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Pages/Programs.aspx
3136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 05, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
Thousands gathered in Moscow to commemorate those killed in Friday's blaze and clashes in Odessa, Southern Ukraine.



116 murdered in Odessa massacre so far:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/05/n_6131297.shtml
3137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 05, 2014, 04:03:42 PM
Another NATO tag-along Cheesy They wait for Putin to invade and when like little children when their dream is not becoming reality.

In the meantime, Kiev is constructing block posts around town "to stop import of weapons and explosives" Cheesy
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/05/n_6131445.shtml

Nervous, are we?
3138  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 05, 2014, 02:53:01 PM
VISA/Master Card withdraw from Russia  Huh

Only if they don't adhere to the new law.

EDIT: An interesting related read here:
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/12517/u-s-navy-preparing-bitcoin-battalion/
3139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 05, 2014, 02:45:40 PM
200 billion roubles from the Federal budget are planned to be set aside for the construction which should be complete within 5 years.

The bridge is OK.... But what they are going to do about the water supplies? Already crops are getting damaged in the northern part of the republic due to water shortage. And there are no major rivers in Crimea which can be exploited for water.

They said that drinking water is not a problem, yet crops might need to be abandoned this year. The farmers will be compensated from the state budget.

On related news, Russia plans to invest up to 1 trillion roubles into Crimea until 2020:
http://www.aif.ru/money/economy/1162800
95% of that sum will be coming from the Federal budget.
By 2017 the region should become self-reliant and should not need excess donations.
3140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 05, 2014, 02:41:54 PM
Another military helicopter have been shot down by the Self Defence Forces near Slavyansk, according to news flash from Russia Today. But the Ukrianian army have inflicted severe casualties on the rebels and are rapidly advancing.

Note: The latest news is that 2 military helicopters (one Mil Mi-8 and one Mil Mi-24) have been downed with MANPADS. Crew from one of the helicopters have been caught.

Total death toll from Slaviansk so far:
20 rebels
4 Ukrainian troops
1 civilian

About Mi-24:
http://www.aif.ru/incidents/1162816
The chopper fell into water. The crew survived and was evacuated to the nearest camp.

More on fighting around Slavjansk:
http://kompravda.eu/daily/26227.5/3110058/
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