I don't hate Muslims, but Islam does. That's why Muslims are trying to turn to peace. They realize that the violence in Islam is destroying them.

Forms of spirituality usually include deeper thinking, and, meditation at least in a small way. Consider placebo action. Google it.

To my way of thinking, placebo action lies not only in some sugar or starch pill given in double blind tests. Rather, it can be anything, including meditation, suggestions of doctors and friends, and in the case for believers in God, even cures from God at times.

I have seen studies that suggest that placebo action occurs in as many as one third of all health activities. The interesting thing about this is that placebo action can work both ways. If you think you are going to get healthier, you will get healthier. If you think that you are going to get sicker, you will get sicker.

Look at this interesting point. If you get a cut on your finger, and it bleeds a little, in two weeks it is healed, almost without a trace. It happens naturally. You don't have to believe it. You don't have to be spiritual about it. In other words, health problems come and go all the time in your body.

Imagine that you have a health problem. You have this lingering pain, so you finally go to the doctor. The doctor tells you that you have bad cancer, and that you are only going to live for 3 months. The doctor's words are like a placebo. What do you do? You die in 3 months.

The doctor tells someone else that he has bad cancer and will die in 3 months. But, there is a treatment that works for this kind of cancer 95% of the time. And if you get on the treatment, you will almost for certain, live. What do you do? You get on the treatment and you live. But was it the treatment? or was it the placebo action that healed you?

Personally, I don't want a doctor influencing my spiritual activity. The human body is so complex that, now that medicine has found out as much as they have, your symptoms could fit all kinds of illnesses. Doctors are continually misdiagnosing things all the time these day. I don't want their mixed up placebo-action-diagnosis messing up my life. I'll self cure, using info that I and my friends dig up on the net, where I don't have to listen to some words of gloom and doom.

Of course, the doctor could tell me my problem is nothing. But I know enough about medicine, that I don't trust that he knows what he is talking about.

No. It is real science. It is based on Newtons 3rd Law which is real science law.   

Don't feel badly that you don't understand, Fluffer. Not everyone has a mind that can understand these things. There's nothing wrong with that. You are probably very good at some other things.

The way that scientific investigation works is very exacting. Since science has proven that God exists, all one need do is check out the God that science has proven to see if their god matches the little that science has shown us about the real God.

Science has shown us that God caused the universe to come into being. If somebody says that god has only caused the earth to come into being, but not the rest of the universe, there is a conflict. The other god is a false god, because science has proven that God caused the whole thing.

Now if two people of different religions both say that their god has a ring on his spiritual pinky finger, they could be talking about the real God, or they could be talking about some false god. Why? Because nothing in science has proven one way or the other, whether or not God has a ring on His spiritual pinky finger. Maybe these people have the same God/god and simply don't know it. Or maybe their God/gods are completely different and they don't know it.

Look up what atheists say about atheism (on the Net). Then look up the definition of religion. There are categories of the definition that apply to atheism. The fact that God has been proven to exist make atheism more a religion than ever.

The science that proves God exists is when you combine cause and effect, complex universe, universal entropy. There is only one God. People have many idols that they call God.

God is certainly alien to us in many ways. God certainly is extraterrestrial, even though He has walked on earth in the form of man.

If there were only men, there wouldn't be any aliens. If there were only women, there wouldn't be any aliens. But since they both exist and interact, there are aliens all over the place.

The only possible advantage to same sex marriage is, that you wouldn't be marrying an alien.

 

That's the point of this thread. The religion of atheism is poison. Why? Because science proves that God exists.

That doesn't stop over a billion people from formally believing the religion, right?

The difference is, science proves that God exists, thereby debunking atheism. There might be little evidence outside of the Bible for the existence of Jesus, but, as CoinCube pointed out in one post, there is less evidence of Julius Caesar.

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But atheists believe atheism exists. So, they have a religion involving something that is non-existent. So, it is a religion of non-religion.

Thank you for explaining... about you lack of interpreting.

So the answer wasn't something that you could understand, eh? To clarify, if you are talking about evolution links, there aren't any. This means that there aren't any that are missing, simply because there aren't any to be missing.

This is what I have been saying all along. Since atheism is self contradictory, it doesn't really exist, and therefore certainly can't be proof for its own existence.

What's the big deal?

Complete misinterpretation of the findings.   

The dictionaries define what we mean when we say "God."


In brief...

Cause and effect is all around us in abundance. It is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law if nothing else. Nobody has found pure random. Everything operates by cause and effect.

There is complexity in the universe. Complexity comes from cause and effect just like everything else. We have no example of lesser complexity becoming greater complexity. The closest we can come is to say that we just don't know what caused certain complexity.

Whatever caused the complexity in the universe is more complex. Since the mind of man is intelligent, whatever caused the mind of man is more intelligent than man. The fact that He/It could create a universe through cause and effect as it is, shows that He/It has great power and ability and intelligence, way beyond the understanding of mankind.

The fact of universal entropy shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, entropy would have reduced everything to non-complexity long ago. Entropy also shows that the present intelligence of mankind is not as great as it was in mankind of the past.

If I was suggesting the proof of your faith, I could easily be wrong, because I don't know you well enough for that. It was your idea that I have proof.

The proof that everyone has religion goes beyond knowing that you have a particular kind of religion.

I like a good science fiction story. I wish these scientists would stop trying to make their SF into the truth when they have little more than their imagination to back it up as truth. It takes away from all the good science fiction stories that I like when they do this.

God is so extremely great, that He can allow free will while making things operate completely by cause and effect. We may not understand it easily, but we can understand how it works, basically.

Study cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, and you will see that God exists, scientifically.