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3141  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [NEWS] Τα νέα από το www.bitcoin-gr.org on: June 15, 2017, 02:06:36 AM
H Bitmain απειλεί με hard fork σε περίπτωση ενεργοποίησης του segwit μέσω των node

http://www.bitcoin-gr.org/?p=6692

3142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 01:55:46 AM
go ahead and argue away. 

the fork is happening.

nothing you post here will influence miners or businesses.



who really cares?

exactly.  the decisions already have been made.  99.9% of bitcointalk is just noise to the world.

the most noise here is you and Bitmain loved boys. The majority of nodes are still legacy chain....
just to say Tongue
3143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 01:53:17 AM
go ahead and argue away.  

the fork is happening.

nothing you post here will influence miners or businesses.



who really cares? legacy chain will win once again and you will one more time find what Bitcoin means....
3144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 01:38:30 AM
Bitmain is a recipe for economical distaster for everyone. If anyone want to loose his wealth then is free to follow them

but...
I have a new hat for them Tongue and their supporters like franky1... Tongue



im laughing soo much

1. you cry bitmain has all the power and so blaming bitmain for hashing on bitcoin and demanding bitmain go play with an altcoin to not veto BScoin
2. when bitmain says it will take its hashpower out of bitcoin to another alt thus actually helping u bscartels have less hashpower vetoing bscoin....  you cry again..

seems you cannot even see the reality and instead prefer to see fud.

as for calling me a supporter. i begin laughing even further. just because i hate the BScoin agenda that began in 2014.. does not mean i belong in another team/brand

but i think its hard for sheep to not understand anything beyond the lifestyle of sheep. which may explain why many cant understand the logic that i stand on my own with my own opinions.

but enjoy crying about anything spoonfed to you by the r/bitcoin controller theymos.

maybe worth people start to think byond what has been spoonfed to them and see all the possibilities..

TL:DR;
if bitmain move to another altcoin.. the BSCartel are 16% closer to getting their BScoin
try to take a break have a coffee and think about the info handed to you.. repeating reddit scripts adds nothing to the debate

you deserve an answer not for me but for your beloved Bitmain company

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Many of the software developers who work in a software project called “Bitcoin Core” ....

yeah a software called bitcoin core. First time i hear this Cheesy
and another...

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censored forums, many of which are controlled by single anonymous individuals

what is your real name again? Because i like to propose you as a candidate of Bitcoin Unlimited president...  Grin
3145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 01:19:15 AM
3146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 01:13:57 AM
3147  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Scaling Debate on: June 15, 2017, 12:48:56 AM
Πάντως η bitmain και όσοι παλαβοί την ακολουθήσουν σε αυτό το fork δικαιούνται να έχουν το δικό τους καπέλο Tongue

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCUTHlgUQAA_0MZ.jpg

μην ξεχνάμε ότι στο νέο fork η Bitmain θα έχει κάνει ήδη premined 5k bitcoin όπως περιγράφει και στο block post της Cheesy
Οπως είπα η καλύτερη άμυνα σε όλο αυτό είναι να παραμείνεις στο legacy chain και απλά να απολαύσεις την καταστροφή των χρημάτων των forker. Ο Theymos το περιγράφει καλύτερα αυτό

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6h5goj/uahf_a_contingency_plan_against_uasf_bip148/divqtg6/#oo
3148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 12:43:36 AM
Bitmain is a recipe for economical distaster for everyone. If anyone want to loose his wealth then is free to follow them



but...
I have a new hat for them Tongue and their supporters like franky1... Tongue

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCUTHlgUQAA_0MZ.jpg
3149  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [INFO] Συζήτηση για την Ισοτιμία on: June 14, 2017, 11:07:42 PM
προσθέστε και αυτό εδώ

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/finance/story/1247145/nea-auksisi-epitokion-apo-ti-fed

και πλέον έχουμε ολοκληρωμένη εικόνα για το σημερινό crash
3150  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Συνέδριο "Bitcoin & άλλα ψηφιακά νομίσματα" on: June 14, 2017, 10:38:41 PM
Βρήκα ότι διοργανώνεται το συνέδριο του θέματος στο wyndham grand athens στις 29 Ιουνίου.
https://nbevents.org/
Ακούγεται ενδιαφέρον και σοβαρό, θα έχει ομιλητές καθηγητές, νομικούς, τον Σφακιανάκη κλπ.
Ψηνόμουν να πήγαινα αλλά δε θα είμαι στην περιοχή. Έχει κανείς πρόθεση να πάει;

όντος σοβαρό φαίνεται αλλά Σφακιανάκης? Εντάξει δεν λέω αλλά ποιο πολύ μου κάνει σαν μια συνάντηση ενημέρωση ποιο καθωσπρέπει συστηματικών ατόμων παρά ένα bitcoin meetup η συνέδριο από αυτά που έχουμε συνηθίσει.
3151  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Verification τραπεζικου λογαριασμου στο coinbase και SEPA SHA (shared) fees on: June 14, 2017, 10:37:28 PM
Γεια χαρα σε ολους.

Θελω να επιβεβαιωσω τον τραπεζικο μου λογαριασμο στο coinbase μεσω e-banking της eurobank, κανοντας μια μικρη καταθεση (1ευρω) στον λογαριασμο που μου λεει το coinbase.
Η διαδικασια δεν ειναι δυσκολη αλλα ηθελα να ρωτησω αν στην SEPA μεταφορα μπορω να χρησιμοποιησω την επιλογη SHA (shared) δηλαδη να μοιραστουν τα εξοδα της SEPA αμοιβαια σε εμενα και το coinbase.
Ρωτησα και τους ιδιους αλλα το support τους ειναι bot και δεν βρηκα ακρη αν και εστειλα και μειλ που 2 μερες μετα δεν εχουν ακομη απαντησει.
Εχει καποιος κανει αυτην την επιβεβαιωση στο coinbase?



πάντα shared για τις μεταφορές. Αν βάλεις ότι αναλαμβάνεις τα έξοδα τότε θα δεις να σου βγάζει η τράπεζα ένα ποσό πάνω απο 18 ευρώ για fee Tongue
3152  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: btc σε paypal balance on: June 14, 2017, 10:36:11 PM
γενικά να γνωρίζεις ότι το localbitcoins είναι φωτιά στις τιμές και πουλάνε όσοι πουλάνε δλδ σε τιμές με καπέλο πάντα.
Στην ουσία στο localbitcoins γίνετε συναλλαγή από χρήστη σε χρήστη και απλά υπάρχει κάποιος που θα αγοράσεις bitcoin μεταφέροντας του λεφτά στην paypal η το αντίθετο με ότι ρίσκο μπορεί να έχει αυτό το πράγμα.
3153  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [INFO] Συζήτηση για την Ισοτιμία on: June 14, 2017, 10:33:57 PM
παιδιά νομίζω "the party is over"
Μαζί με την εξωφρενική ανακοίνωση της bitmain ήρθε και αυτό εδώ και έδεσε το γλυκό.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-14/you-wont-believe-stupid-new-law-against-cash-and-bitcoin

νομίζω η παραπάνω είδηση έχει μεγαλύτερες επιπτώσεις από τις μλκ που γράφει η bitmain
3154  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Scaling Debate on: June 14, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
H Bitmain έβγαλε ένα blog post που ούτε λίγο πολύ ανακοινώνει η καλύτερα απειλεί ότι θα κάνει fork το δίκτυο μετά την 1 Αυγούστου αν γίνει πραγματικότητα το UASF

https://t.co/M6olr95Nne

για να τελειώνουμε με αυτή την ιστορία γιατί έχει καταντήσει βαρετή και για όποιον ανησυχεί για τα bitcoin του. Απλά παραμένουμε στο legacy chain και αφήνουμε τους forker να κατστρέψουν τις οικονομίες τους. Δεν κάνουμε τίποτα άλλο. Πέρνουμε και ένα backup το wallet μας πριν της 1 Αυγούστου ώστε αν κάποιο από αυτά τα fork αποκτήσει αξία στο μέλλον να μπορέσουμε να το εξαργυρώσουμε.
Ακόμα και τα seed key μπορούμε να τα κάνουμε import στο μέλλον σε κάποιο άλλο wallet που υποστηρίζει αυτά τα νέα chain.
Γιαυτό δεν υπάρχει λόγος για πανικό.
3155  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Warning! Κενά ασφαλείας σε app, wallet ktl on: June 13, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
πρέπει να υπάρχει σοβαρό πρόβλημα με το jaxx πάντως και όπως λένε ήδη έχουν αρχίσει να αδειάζουν τα πρώτα wallet

https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/874395589504622593
3156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: June 13, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
Bitcoin Unlimited.
We all agree that this code is crap.

Well, no. We do not all agree that BU code is crap. It has had some high-visibility bugs. All SW has bugs. The amount of detected bugs has been in inverse proportion to the size of the team. As is normal.

It is certainly possible that there are more critical bugs that will be exposed within the BU codebase over time. However, it is the only codebase in somewhat wide distribution that implements easily user-settable maxblocksize. As such, it is the only codebase that has a chance of solving the current scaling defect.

Right now, the largest bug in the entire Bitcoin sphere is the limit on transactions per unit time. BU solves Bitcoin's biggest bug. Permanently. And it is the only codebase which does so.

is normal?

Yes. If you knew anything about code development, you would already know this.

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and why this "normal" situation never happen to bitcoin core until now.

It has.

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Can i ask you guys where i can apply to get payment like all of you? because only payed ppl will say this bullshits like nothing happens.

If I knew where to get paid for advocating what I already believe, I'd be getting paid for advocating what I believe. My payment is in the appreciation of my Bitcoin holdings. Or at least preventing the market collapse of my Bitcoin holdings.

and you promote a stall situation from miners that for sure will collapse bitcoin value. And you try to believe you?
I bet that you dont have a single bitcoin.
3157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: June 13, 2017, 06:23:40 PM
Bitcoin Unlimited.
We all agree that this code is crap.

Well, no. We do not all agree that BU code is crap. It has had some high-visibility bugs. All SW has bugs. The amount of detected bugs has been in inverse proportion to the size of the team. As is normal.

It is certainly possible that there are more critical bugs that will be exposed within the BU codebase over time. However, it is the only codebase in somewhat wide distribution that implements easily user-settable maxblocksize. As such, it is the only codebase that has a chance of solving the current scaling defect.

Right now, the largest bug in the entire Bitcoin sphere is the limit on transactions per unit time. BU solves Bitcoin's biggest bug. Permanently. And it is the only codebase which does so.

is normal? and why this "normal" situation never happen to bitcoin core until now. Or to be more specific why bitcoin core has not 5 critical software failures in only one month?Huh
Can i ask you guys where i can apply to get payment like all of you? because only payed ppl will say this bullshits like nothing happens.
3158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: June 13, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
Miners are completely fools imo. There are so stupids that they are not only act against their own proftis but against their economical future survivor.
If they had activate segwit bitcoin will be much higher in price and bitcoin ecosystem will ha a huge innovation atm.  And innovation means money to everyone especially startups and miners. He will be even in e much better position for a hard fork future proposal.
But what choose this "brilliant" mind? to stall bitcoin and risk a not consensus fork that will create an economical disaster to the whole bitcoin ecosystem.
Especially Bitmain will hit hard from this economical collapse because is one of the Bitcoin mining startups that are heavily exposed to bitcoin ecosystem. They have invest huge amount of money to bitcoin startups and of course to btc mining.


https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/868896110760181760

"You will find that the canonical block is less than 1MB but your tx fee is so high, after SegWit is activated. SegWit tx is unfairly cheap"
-Bitmain's super clever CEO Jihan Wu.

Jihan is a brainless moron who is after the fee income and nothing else. They want 8mb blocks because there will be x8 more transactions and x8 more people using bitcoin. (in theory) That means x8 more fee income. They are only after that. They think nothing else.

I can't and I will never respect a moron like him.

His moronic buddy Roger Ver is no different than him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIA8w5tfr70&t=2122s

He is a shopkeeper and don't have a basic knowledge about decentralization/economics/coding. A fucking shopkeeper whos after more customers.

2 fools > 1 fool. You both have the reasons bitcoin is stagnating precisely backwards. Segwit is not a scaling solution, it forces people onto sidechains (it's specifically what Blockstream's business plan and prospectus says). Blocksize was supposed to be increased years ago, it didn't happen because the current trollish core devs took over the project from the original devs. Miners could care less about fees - the block rewards are still many times what they collect in fees. Most sane people want bitcoin to grow, but not Blockstream and core - they want blocks to be full to force people into their (second-rate) second-tier solutions. It's not working. All it's accomplished so far is a massive erosion of Core's credibility, loss of bitcoin's dominance, and a huge bubble in the altcoin space.

Oh, and it got a bunch of people all butthurt.


yeah again blockstream conspiracy theory.
Blockstream has activate this tech to all of that altcoin heh? lol

Litecoin
Groestlecoin
Syscoin
Digibyte
Viacoin
Vertcoin
NAV coin

and all of them works without a single problem...because blockstream told them :evil: Cheesy
3159  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [INFO] Συζήτηση για την Ισοτιμία on: June 13, 2017, 05:03:30 PM
Επειδή είμαι λίγο χαζός...
τι σημαίνει η εντολή στον κύκλο?

δίνει εντολή αγοράς 1000 κομμάτια eth στα 343$ όπου ίσον 343 χιλιαρικάκιαHuh!!!
όχι ε? Tongue
http://imgur.com/a/Hf2yc


και όμως ναι
3160  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Warning! Κενά ασφαλείας σε app, wallet ktl on: June 13, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
Νομίζω χρειάζεται το φορουμ ένα νήμα που να ανεβάζουμε ότι κενό ασφαλείας μαθαίνουμε γύρω από κάποιο app και κυρίως wallet.
Αφορμή γιαυτό το νήμα είναι το σοβαρό κενό ασφαλείας που ανακαλήφθηκε στο jaxx όπου κάποιος μπορεί να κάνει πανεύκολα exposed τα private key του πορτοφολιού. Η διαδιακασία περιγράφετε εδώ και δεν το προστατεύει ούτε το pin

https://vxlabs.com/2017/06/10/extracting-the-jaxx-12-word-wallet-backup-phrase/

νομίζω όποιος έχει στο jaxx token καλό είναι να τα μεταφέρει αλλού μέχρι να διορθωθεί το πρόβλημα
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