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3141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 04, 2017, 03:18:37 AM
that sounds promising but i think i didn't save the seed, because it said it is not enough anyway Sad

But isn't the seed the same for each wallet ? So i should still have it ?
I just see one seed , no matter how many wallets i create...

What operating system are you using? Is it windows XP, or a  later windows version?

Are you deleting the byteball folder in appdata before creating a new wallet?

I am using Windows 7 and i don't delete the byteball folder.
Just added another wallet in the byteball app and the seed under global preferences is the same for all these wallets, isn't it ?

I think the only time the seed changes is when you delete the byteball folder in appdata and then start the byteball wallet to let it generate a new one. I'm not sure of that though because I never added another wallet in the byteball app.

If that is the case then i still have the original Seed.

So is this complicated on windows ? Otherwise i can just transfer my wallet to a linux os.

I will go to bed now, would be nice if you could PM me a time where we can "meet" tomorrow.

I tested adding two wallets in the byteball app, and they appear to use the same seed. The only seed words I could find in the app were located in the global preferences as shown at the lower left of the screenshot below.



However, if your app still has its original seed one of your wallets should show your byteballs (if you upgraded from app version 0.7 to to version 1). If none of your wallets are showing your byteballs then I guess your wallet must have generated a new seed after you deleted/changed some of its files.  

There's nothing more I can think of to help you if your wallet generated a new seed.

The dev might be able to offer a solution, or someone in the byteball slack might have one http://byteball.slack.com/
You can get a slack invite here http://slack.byteball.org/
3142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 03, 2017, 01:02:18 AM
that sounds promising but i think i didn't save the seed, because it said it is not enough anyway Sad

But isn't the seed the same for each wallet ? So i should still have it ?
I just see one seed , no matter how many wallets i create...

What operating system are you using? Is it windows XP, or a  later windows version?

Are you deleting the byteball folder in appdata before creating a new wallet?

I am using Windows 7 and i don't delete the byteball folder.
Just added another wallet in the byteball app and the seed under global preferences is the same for all these wallets, isn't it ?

I think the only time the seed changes is when you delete the byteball folder in appdata and then start the byteball wallet to let it generate a new one. I'm not sure of that though because I never added another wallet in the byteball app.

If that is the case then i still have the original Seed.

So is this complicated on windows ? Otherwise i can just transfer my wallet to a linux os.

I will go to bed now, would be nice if you could PM me a time where we can "meet" tomorrow.

I can't promise I will be online on Tuesday, but I will be online most of Wednesday.
3143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 03, 2017, 12:37:27 AM
How to restore the wallet from seed? I couldn't find it in the UI. I know you can't restore blackbytes this way but nevertheless.


The dev gave this way of restoring your wallet using its seed words by installing the headless (no GUI) version of the wallet. Like you said it can't restore blackbytes, only byteballs.

<snip>

Thanks for helping me out.

So currently how would you import the seed? Is it hard or impossible? I am trying to gauge how to secure my investment on release as I am not convinced by the redundant access theory TBH. A secure paper wallet generator would really solve most of my issues.

Thank you for you time Smiley.

Pablo.

It is possible but rather involved.
One way to restore from the seed is by installing the headless wallet https://github.com/byteball/headless-byteball.  It stores the seed in a file keys.json in its data directory.  Run the wallet once to see the format of the file (it'll generate new keys the first time it runs), then delete all data and recreate keys.json from your saved seed.  It should see the balance, then you can move the entire balance from the headless to a GUI wallet via chat commands.
3144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 02, 2017, 11:56:35 PM
that sounds promising but i think i didn't save the seed, because it said it is not enough anyway Sad

But isn't the seed the same for each wallet ? So i should still have it ?
I just see one seed , no matter how many wallets i create...

What operating system are you using? Is it windows XP, or a  later windows version?

Are you deleting the byteball folder in appdata before creating a new wallet?

I am using Windows 7 and i don't delete the byteball folder.
Just added another wallet in the byteball app and the seed under global preferences is the same for all these wallets, isn't it ?

I think the only time the seed changes is when you delete the byteball folder in appdata and then start the byteball wallet to let it generate a new one. I'm not sure of that though because I never added another wallet in the byteball app.
3145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 02, 2017, 11:40:48 PM
Thanks HI-TEC99 and CryptKeeper for clarification Smiley

What exactly I need to do to secure a backup before update to v1.0.0?

"To restore wallets, you will need a full backup of Byteball settings. Just the wallet seed is not enough"

It's vital to backup this windows folder to ensure you get your blackbytes.

C:\users\<your user name>\AppData\Local\Byteball

The folder is normally hidden. If you haven't configured your computer to make it visible then click the windows orb, type %appdata% into the search box and press enter, Your hidden appdata folder should open.

It's also important to back up your wallet words (the seed) that you can view in the advanced section of your wallet.
3146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 02, 2017, 11:27:10 PM
that sounds promising but i think i didn't save the seed, because it said it is not enough anyway Sad

But isn't the seed the same for each wallet ? So i should still have it ?
I just see one seed , no matter how many wallets i create...

What operating system are you using? Is it windows XP, or a  later windows version?

Are you deleting the byteball folder in appdata before creating a new wallet?
3147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 02, 2017, 10:39:46 PM
Hi, at the 24th december I linked my btc address by sending requested ammount to the address pointed by transition bot. Later bot informed me that it see the payment but waiting for confirmations so I assumed it was enough to receive bytes. Now when I came back from holidays I see that my bytes wallet is still empty.

Here the tx https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/7d3eb212743e3d61236fb62af8d58fd53377cc957f148a9701806867620aebc8

Will I be able to claim my bytes?

You can check here.

http://transition.byteball.org/

The Bitcoin address 19Zy4DMKvhvYReZUqcmit9BxQuFZY1WpRj associated with that transaction contains 2.69717200 Bitcoins, and the linked byteball address 7CHYHBLTG57TM7NHS7DZSRFMCAV25WSX contains 0.0038% of all the byteballs distributed.

You can check your byteball address balance here.

https://explorer.byteball.org

The byteball address 7CHYHBLTG57TM7NHS7DZSRFMCAV25WSX contains 3811934152 bytes.

https://explorer.byteball.org/#7CHYHBLTG57TM7NHS7DZSRFMCAV25WSX
3148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2017, 10:20:35 PM
Not much of a "dip" is it??  Cheesy
Haha, I was away for a few hours and didn't notice the dip at all. the price still looks pretty bullish to me right now...

On bitstamp it's only $19 below the high, it's already back up $23 from today's low. A $42 dip for today is just noise.
3149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2017, 09:59:10 PM
^what are we going straight up to $2000 now or should we wait?  

Cool

 HODL !!!


My guess is up to $1500 then a bit of a correction before higher.

Disclaimer: My guesses are typically so bad that I gave up gambling on them.

HODL
3150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
Saw bitcoin-news-statement to the break of 1000 at cnn-app on my mobile, but now i don't find the article anymore.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/02/investing/bitcoin-1000-2017/
3151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Scammers claiming to be Poloniex, but are not on: January 02, 2017, 09:07:16 PM
.

We currently offer:

Coin addition: 1 BTC
Holding of ICO: 2 BTC



Poloniex haven't held ICOs for years. It's obviously fake.
3152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2017, 08:16:46 PM
Who is leading this 'dump'? It would be nice to see 1000$ hold.

Bearstamp has overtaken bitfinex in volume (according to bitcoinity) now a dump's started. But coinmarketcap contradicts that by showing bitfinex has twice the 24 hour volume of bearstamp.

China can't be leading it because its volume dropped since it went to sleep.
3153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 02, 2017, 06:28:52 PM
The dev outlined a way of restoring your wallet using its seed words by installing the headless (no GUI) version of the wallet. It should retrieve your byteballs, but not your blackbytes.

<snip>

Thanks for helping me out.

So currently how would you import the seed? Is it hard or impossible? I am trying to gauge how to secure my investment on release as I am not convinced by the redundant access theory TBH. A secure paper wallet generator would really solve most of my issues.

Thank you for you time Smiley.

Pablo.

It is possible but rather involved.
One way to restore from the seed is by installing the headless wallet https://github.com/byteball/headless-byteball.  It stores the seed in a file keys.json in its data directory.  Run the wallet once to see the format of the file (it'll generate new keys the first time it runs), then delete all data and recreate keys.json from your saved seed.  It should see the balance, then you can move the entire balance from the headless to a GUI wallet via chat commands.

I could probably figure out how to install in on windows if you have your wallet words and want to try it.
3154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 02, 2017, 06:03:03 PM
Any chances to see Blackbytes on exchanges?
No, definitely not.

Care to elaborate please? Why is it so definite Smiley? I actually don't see any reason why blackbytes couldn't be available on an exchange, so if you have some info to help me understand the no, I would be grateful if you could share it. Thank you.


The owner of the Cryptox.pl exchange says he can easily run a blackbyte market, but with manual deposit/withdrawal. He asked anyone interested to email admin@cryptox.pl.

Since last fix, you can deposit GBYTE using QRcode, it is useful especially for mobile wallets.

Cryptox.pl

Good. Any news for Blackbytes trade support ?
No news, no development resources, probably we can easily run market, but with manual deposit/withdrawal which means there could be delays like in escrow services, and quite high cost of such manual operation (about 50,000 blackbytes). Please email admin@cryptox.pl those who think that's good idea.
3155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 02, 2017, 05:04:18 PM

But what's the point of regular data recovery ? The software will just find deleted files , right ? In this case the file actually wasn't deleted, but rather changed.
So i need tool to reset several data to a specific snapshot time.


I see your point, regular data recovery would just find deleted files.

Did you save your wallet words when you created your wallet? You might be able to restore a wallet using them and access your byteballs with it, but not your black byteballs.

The dev said you only needed to backup your appdata folder because of your black byteballs. Perhaps you could install byteball on a different computer, find the file that stores the wallet words, and change them to the wallet words from your old computer.


pls, wht means : "to restor your wallets, you will need full backup of Bytesball setting. Just the wallet seed is not enough."

how i must save my wallet to restor it ?

You need to backup the entire wallet data folder, its location depends on your platform: https://github.com/byteball/byteball#byteball-backups-and-recovery.
But doing it is not practical, as you'll have to back up again every time you send or receive blackbytes (which are only saved in this folder).
A better option is to set up a multisig wallet with redundancy (such as 1-of-2 or 2-of-3) on multiple devices, which ensures that in case one of the devices fails you will still be able to use the wallet on the other device(s).  All devices will have a copy of the private payments (blackbytes).

yu say first 100k wallet loader will receive an part of 1% of all bytesball..yu talk of bytesball test or bytesball after beta..how you will distribute them ?



About seed, see here: https://github.com/byteball/byteball
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Byteball uses a single extended private key for all wallets, BIP44 is used for wallet address derivation. There is a BIP39 mnemonic for backing up the wallet key, but it is not enough. Private payments and co-signers of multisig wallets are stored only in the app's data directory, which you have to back up manually:

    macOS: ~/Library/Application Support/byteball
    Linux: ~/.config/byteball
    Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\byteball



This quote is from the github for the headless (no GUI) version of byteball. It says the BIP39 mnemonic is saved in the file keys.json in the app data directory.



https://github.com/byteball/headless-byteball

Quote
The first time you run it, it will generate a new extended private key (BIP44) and ask you for a passphrase to encrypt it. The BIP39 mnemonic will be saved to the file keys.json in the app data directory (see byteballcore for its location),
3156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2017, 04:05:23 PM
Remember falllling's FUD?




$550 has been broken ! $500 has been broken ! $400 has been broken ! everyone is cashing out !

Bitcoin price is dropping hard and no one is buying, final capitulation warning ! bitcoin game over !

Stop listen to those "cheap coins" yelling scammers / liars including: fonsie / dropt / maker88 / Sevvero and other bull scammers
sell all of your bitcoin now to cut loose ! the price is going to nowhere but lower and lower until $0

3157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Blackbytes balance? on: January 02, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
Hi,

am I just too dumb to find the toggle switch or did I not receive Blackbytes?
this is my balance from the original distribution, no other activities were done on this wallet.

any hints about what I can do?

https://s28.postimg.org/ctu04b7x9/image.jpg

Are you running the latest version of the byteball wallet? The older version might not display blackbytes.
3158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: deleted wallet file in byteball app on: January 02, 2017, 11:06:19 AM


Take the bounty money and hire a professional data recovery service. If you want them to even have a slight chance, stop using the disk now.

+1

Stop using the disk now if you want any chance of recovering those files yourself, or through a professional data recovery service.

Don't switch the computer on unless it's through a live CD. When windows runs from your hard drive it constantly writes data to the hard drive that could overwrite your deleted files. If you are lucky they might still be intact on your hard drive, windows only deletes their file system index, not the files themselves.

If your computer has very little free disk space left there is a lower chance of recovering your files than if it has a large amount of free disk space left.

Do you know how to configure your computer to run from a live CD?

With a live CD your computer runs from an operating system stored on the CD itself, not from the operating system on your hard dive. You can run data recovery software from them.

The type of live CD your computer can run depends on how old your computer is because older computers have something called a BIOS, and newer computers use a different system.

If you could post your computer's manufacturer, and model number I could identify which type of live CD it can run.

Do you have experience of repairing computers? If you have another option could be to remove your computer's hard drive and place it in a portable hard drive enclosure. You could plug the enclosure into another computer's USB port and scan it with data recovery software installed on the other computer.

WARNING: Don't open your computer's case unless you are wearing an antistatic wrist strap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antistatic_device#Antistatic_wrist_strap

If you haven't got one then buy one because you risk frying your computer if you open it without wearing one. You can buy cheap ones on ebay for a few dollars.
3159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 02, 2017, 02:41:32 AM
Byteball is definitely worthy of Poloniex.

Poloniex is unpredictable, it listed lisk at launch, took months to list decred, and still hasn't listed waves. It might list byteball tomorrow, or months away, or never. It can afford to be choosy now it's the biggest alt exchange. Byteball's worthy of it though.
3160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 01, 2017, 11:33:55 PM
Anyone know why btc-e is lagging so much behind?

It normally lags behind all the other exchanges. These are the ATHs on stamp, finex, and btc-e.

Bitstamp $1163
Bitfinex $1175
Btc-e $1095

It was $70 to $80 below the others in the 2013 high. As others said it's got something to do with trading and withdrawal fees. It might cost more to withdraw from btc-e because it uses different fiat withdrawal channels to the others.
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