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31401  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 1984, BY George Orwell on: April 13, 2016, 08:50:25 PM
Orwell, and many others, free - http://www.luminist.org/archives/.    Cool

EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.

Either way thank you for this link,a interesting collection and I have not read many of them.
Looks like some of this will be over my head but if you do not swing for the fences you never get there right?

The list is slowly growing.    Smiley
31402  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 13, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Religion is meant for the 'weak', and yet, atheist are equally as close-minded as religious people. Saying something unknown doesn't exist for sure is just as dumb as saying it does without any foundation. People who denied the existence of an american continent were equally as close-minded as those who believed the other extreme.
Agnosticism allows to say 'I don't know' in order to build a bi-optional foundation. Let's find out without any bias, and let faith help those who need it.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAtjs-JAtE

We would love to find out. But we are so weak that we can barely search. It will take us forever through searching. Rather, lets do the religion thing.

What is the religion thing? Look at the facts. Then base the our religion on the things that the facts tell us.

Cool
31403  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 1984, BY George Orwell on: April 13, 2016, 08:22:12 PM
Orwell, and many others, free - http://www.luminist.org/archives/.    Cool

EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
31404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 1984, BY George Orwell on: April 13, 2016, 08:20:08 PM
I think it is amazing how he predicted electronic spying in an age when television was a relatively new invention. He was definitely a visionary.

The difference is, in the book, government did it to the people. In reality, the people are doing it to themselves with their cellphone cameras.

 Grin
31405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Senate bill draft would prohibit unbreakable encryption on: April 13, 2016, 08:13:11 PM
So now we not only have to encrypt everything, but we have to make it look like it is not encrypted, as well.

Cool

"I tried and tried to decrypt your message. But it just wouldn't take."    Huh

"I didn't encrypt that message."    Roll Eyes
31406  Other / Off-topic / Re: Please. Under any circumstances, do not ever hit your children. on: April 13, 2016, 08:07:52 PM
Not only whack your kids every day, but tackle them too. Then they will go off to college, already used to the idea of becoming great football stars. And of course, if you whacked and tackled them out of love, they will share their football millions with you.

Smiley
31407  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? (uncensored) on: April 13, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
But if you talk about deporting illegal invaders, then you are a racist.

Invaders?

They are simply humans born in another country who like USA better... can you blame them?

What would you do if you were born in Mexico?

Move to Belize.     Grin

Lots more freedom in Belize, even if their common law is a shade more difficult that the U.S.

Cool
31408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? (uncensored) on: April 13, 2016, 06:35:49 PM
But if you talk about deporting illegal invaders, then you are a racist.

Invaders?

They are simply humans born in another country who like USA better... can you blame them?

What would you do if you were born in Mexico?

Move to Belize.     Grin
31409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? (uncensored) on: April 13, 2016, 06:34:48 PM

Liberal definition of "racist":

Bombing of orphanages and kindergartens (Serbia, 1999) by NATO is not racism. Discriminating against Yazidi refugees is not racism. Blowing up more than a hundred innocent civilians is not racism. But if you talk about deporting illegal invaders, then you are a racist. If you speak against the people who enslaved and impregnated 6-year old Yazidi girls, then you are a racist.

We allow fresh refugees to import their underage brides, by law!

Parliament wanted to stop this but the liberal party blocked that. It still happens as I write this.


From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States:
Quote
The age of marriage in the United States varies by state, but is generally 18. There are, however, two exceptions—Nebraska (19) and Mississippi (21). Most states, however, allow minors below 18 to marry (generally they have to be at least 16 but sometimes lower) with parental and/or judicial consent. Some states allow female minors below 18 to marry without parental or judicial consent, if she is pregnant.

Smiley
31410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump is the next president on: April 13, 2016, 05:57:46 PM
Trump should never become the president of U.S even he should be knocked out from nomination contest.He is an extremist and racist person who should never become the president of super power.Trump is the new version of former president Bush and we all know what he did to world,whole world is still facing consequences of what he did.

Everybody should be given a chance and voting should be fair.

That is not going to happen, as we saw in Colorado. The left-wing loonies have always opposed true democracy. They have justified their undemocratic actions by parroting scare stories about the Nazis and Fascists. Anyone who oppose them is a Nazi. Just look around and see how many of these left-wing nuts are accusing Trump of being a Nazi.

Yeah! They probably hired Trump simply to upset the Republican/Democrat apple cart. And now they have to fight Trump tooth and nail just so nobody will find out about it or figure it out.

Cool
31411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 13, 2016, 05:54:53 PM
In several place around the world, there are groups of people, many of whom, live more than a hundred years. Science with all its money hasn't been able to figure out for sure why. And the extensions that science has done in our own lives are basically hygienic in nature.

If you check the news, it is being found that vaccines don't work as people have been led to believe. Cancer cures kill more than they save life. Nature and homeopathy work better. Cannabis oil has some 80% of its users saying that they would never go back to medicine.

The point? Are we even on the right track with medicine and research?

Couldn't agree more. The awnser: nope, and to 'hygenic' I'd like to add 'fincancial'.

Look up cause and effect. It is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Everything is caused by something. Everything.

Greater intelligence than man must have caused man. Why. Entropy (the destroyer of complexity) exists throughout. Because of it, the lesser can never create the greater.

Entropy is reducing complexity. There must have been a beginning because of this. No eternal universe or the whole thing would have dispersed into ? ? ? long ago.

In a cause and effect universe that has intelligence (mankind), something of greater intelligence brought it into being.

The intelligence that causes our intelligence via cause and effect, after thousands of years entropy which destroys complexity, fits the dictionary definition of "God."

This is new to me and I will check it out.

The universe is one. You can't ignore part of it in your thinking and come to accurate conclusions. When you try to ignore the basics that show God exists, you will never reach proper conclusions. You might be able to ignore the idea of God. But you can't ignore the fact of God. He is proven to exist. Ignore Him and you have to ignore at least part of science, and you will never figure out any great science by ignoring science.

Btw, I say "you" in the non-personal sense.

Cool

Same here, I have to do some homework to provide a proper response although I'm haven't spoken against it, have I?


I take no offense to the way you write your posts, also English isn't my first language.

Ah! A seeker of knowledge. Nice to have met you.    Cool
31412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? (uncensored) on: April 13, 2016, 05:51:58 PM
Anybody who is bigotted against anyone because of his/her racism or bigotry, is a hypocrite.

Government people aren't necessarily bigots against racists or bigots. Rather, they are probably doing it for money. This shows that they are bigots against poverty... their own poverty, that is.

Cool
31413  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 13, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
You have been to the other side and back? You know this?

Would you accept a, more or less, affirmative answer to your question?

There are two flocks. One flock is destined for eternal life in the hereafter. The other flock is destined for eternal damnation in the hereafter.

Cool
If that is true, what's the difference between this lifetime and the hereafter?

Death here. Next life no more death for the living. Continual death for the dying.

Cool
31414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 13, 2016, 05:26:47 PM
People bad. These people worse.   Cheesy

Lol, check.

Yabut, do they have as much excitement in life?   Cheesy

You know that's not the point, plus seaturtles are awesome.
Most (all?) of the creatures that live longer, live slower lives. Their metabolism is slower. They don't "burn themselves out" as fast.


But my point is something like, CAN we pay attention to full potential. Probably not. Why not? Because many of the deep researchers will not accept the fact of God.

I think we can, the potential is there but lies dormant, or maybe it's dying off I'm not sure.
In several place around the world, there are groups of people, many of whom, live more than a hundred years. Science with all its money hasn't been able to figure out for sure why. And the extensions that science has done in our own lives are basically hygienic in nature.

If you check the news, it is being found that vaccines don't work as people have been led to believe. Cancer cures kill more than they save life. Nature and homeopathy work better. Cannabis oil has some 80% of its users saying that they would never go back to medicine.

The point? Are we even on the right track with medicine and research?


Cause and effect show that God exists.

Example?
Look up cause and effect. It is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Everything is caused by something. Everything.

Greater intelligence than man must have caused man. Why. Entropy (the destroyer of complexity) exists throughout. Because of it, the lesser can never create the greater.

Entropy is reducing complexity. There must have been a beginning because of this. No eternal universe or the whole thing would have dispersed into ? ? ? long ago.

In a cause and effect universe that has intelligence (mankind), something of greater intelligence brought it into being.

The intelligence that causes our intelligence via cause and effect, after thousands of years entropy which destroys complexity, fits the dictionary definition of "God."



You can't ignore fundamental science in a universe that is one and expect to get anywhere with science (fuller attention and fuller potential).

I don't think I understand what you mean by this.


The universe is one. You can't ignore part of it in your thinking and come to accurate conclusions. When you try to ignore the basics that show God exists, you will never reach proper conclusions. You might be able to ignore the idea of God. But you can't ignore the fact of God. He is proven to exist. Ignore Him and you have to ignore at least part of science, and you will never figure out any great science by ignoring science.

Btw, I say "you" in the non-personal sense.

Cool
31415  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: April 13, 2016, 04:37:40 PM


I entirely agree with this. The question is, how can it work?

Consider the Mafia. Mafia is family. They unite themselves against every enemy. But when the enemies aren't around, they squabble within.

Jews are a family like the Mafia. The difference is, they are firmly united around religion. They barely fight within. They think alike. They act alike. They have the same goals. They work together. If their intelligence - which is great - were a little bit greater, they would formally rule the world.

Only God holds them at bay. Thank God!

Cool
31416  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 13, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
People aren't good enough at living to keep themselves alive very long. Death bad. People bad.

Isn't that what I said? They fill up on beer and hamburgers and then complain about cholesterol. Does that make someone bad? I'd rather call it 'unknowing', or stubborn.
People bad. These people worse.   Cheesy


I'm sure nobody has entirely figured out the answers to these questions. Or were they rhetorical questions?

You tell me. Do you think they're rhetorical? Exact numbers aside, they do grow older than humans.
Yabut, do they have as much excitement in life?   Cheesy


Except that none of the things you talk about are full cures. And nobody knows that full cures can exist in this life. We bad.

That's my point, we are now only able to regenerate cuts and bruises because we don't pay any attention to the full potential of this feature.

But my point is something like, CAN we pay attention to full potential. Probably not. Why not? Because many of the deep researchers will not accept the fact of God.

What does God have to do with it? The universe is one. Cause and effect show that God exists. You can't ignore fundamental science in a universe that is one and expect to get anywhere with science (fuller attention and fuller potential).

Cool
31417  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 13, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Please We need peace in the world and not fights

That's the trick, isn't it?

If the other guy doesn't want peace, and shows it by his actions against you, how do you live peacefully? You can roll over and die. But that isn't living.

Cool

If you die, you die. If you're done here you'll evolve into something grander.
You have been to the other side and back? You know this?


To attack or to defend are all part of the play you're in, in this lifetime. Mutual respect should prevent others from taking your life. As long as that is not the case then there is a chance you'll die, goes for the other guy as well.

There is more between living on your knees and dying on your feet. We're simply not there yet and fear is powerful instrument to keep anyone from rising above the flock.


There are two flocks. One flock is destined for eternal life in the hereafter. The other flock is destined for eternal damnation in the hereafter.

Cool
31418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 13, 2016, 04:05:22 PM
Please We need peace in the world and not fights

And there's the whole truth. Who cares what you do or do not believe. Life is about developement of the soul, whether by means of a religion, denying every religion or just drawing up your own plan and eat blueberries all day every day.

When someone starts picking on someone else, for whatever reason, it indicates they have a longer path ahead than those who do not need to downplay other people's actions to make themselves look better. It's primitive but for some reason, a good 7000 years into this civilisation, we haven't managed to stop picking on each other.

So peace would be damn good start to try and develop as a species, not as a group or as an individual. And if you don't get it in this life, then I guess I'll see you next lifetime.

The problem with this thinking is that it will not work. Nice idea. But it doesn't work.

Cool
31419  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 13, 2016, 04:03:36 PM

All people are bad people. How can we tell? None of us live very long. At least not when compared with time that exists. If we were anywhere near perfect, we would live a lot longer.

The difference between the bad people that are in church and the bad people that are not in church is, the bad people in church know that they are bad, and have come to God to find the only relief from their badness that there is.

"Church" is a term that can mean lots of things to many different people. Often, the people in the church are seeking to help other people find relief from badness. This is done by many outside the church, as well. But since God is the only true relief from badness, the people in the church are better at it when they explain about God.

God loves you, Fluffer. His arms are wide open to save you, if only you will come to Him. You don't really need church to come to Him. You can pick up a copy of the Bible and read it to come to Him. But I am of the church, and am extending the offer of eternal life to you, the eternal life that God holds out in the pages of the Bible.

Now tell me who is bad. Is it the person who wants to change his badness by going to God, the only way to change badness? Or is it the person who wants to remain in his badness by staying away from God, the Bible and church, and locking himself into his badness thereby?

Cool

People are bad because they don't live long? That's a straight up non secquitur. People don't live long because of the conditions they live in, the physical strain they put on their bodies and most important: what they eat and drink.
People aren't good enough at living to keep themselves alive very long. Death bad. People bad.


Why do seaturtles live 175 years, or parrots?
I'm sure nobody has entirely figured out the answers to these questions. Or were they rhetorical questions?


We have the ability to regenerate, but we are only using very low intensity. This way bones can mend, bruises will heal and cuts are closed but broken necks are still a bit of an endeavour. Improving your diet will improve longevity, there's even companies out there that provide supplements for improving the regenarative capacity of your DNA cells.
Except that none of the things you talk about are full cures. And nobody knows that full cures can exist in this life. We bad.


So I disagree with that but I fully support 'going to Church' as a positive influence on those seeking guidance, or peace of mind, or strenhth. Sure, if it helps, it helps.

Mens sane in corpora sana, or as Moe Syczlak puts it: 'nice hole, nice soul'.

All fun and dandy. That we know about, all church-going people die, as do the non-church-goers. Perhaps there is somebody out there somewhere, who is 500 years old. But he isn't telling, and certainly not proving it very well.

The point? Church-going is for the saving of the soul for the next life, where it will be reunited with a perfect body, where there will be no bad.

Cool
31420  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 13, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
Please We need peace in the world and not fights

That's the trick, isn't it?

If the other guy doesn't want peace, and shows it by his actions against you, how do you live peacefully? You can roll over and die. But that isn't living.

Cool
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