Why am I an atheist? Because God caused you to not believe so that you will not repent and He will destroy you in hell. Usually, I simple ignore all comments like yours, since they are irrelevant. But I'm going to open an exception. According to your "loving" god, I won't be destroyed in hell rather I will "burn" there alive for all eternity (Matthew 25:41; Jude 1:7; Mark 9:43; of course, especially on this issue there are many different inventions: my text, point 5). Furthermore, the only natural meaning of Exodus 20:5; Exodus 34:7; Deuteronomy 5:9 and Numbers 14:18, is that also my sons, my grandsons, my great-grandsons and also their children, will burn eternally in hell also, only because of me, no matter how good and religious they are. But as you write, it was god that "made" me like this, I'm just "following his plan" for me, therefore he is guilty for my sins, including my disbelieve in him (my text, point 7). God would burn in hell for eternity too if he followed his own rules. Still on burning in hell, I'm going to quote an interesting (religious, even if heretic) Spanish writer, Miguel de Unamuno: "And I must confess, painful though the confession be (...) [that] descriptions of the tortures of hell, however terrible, never made me tremble, for I always felt that nothingness was much more terrifying. He who suffers lives, and he who lives suffering, even though over the portal of his abode is written "Abandon all hope!" loves and hopes. It is better to live in pain than to cease to be in peace. The truth is that I could not believe in this atrocity of Hell, of an eternity of punishment, nor did I see any more real hell than nothingness and the prospect of it." ( Tragic Sense Of Life, 1913, III - The Hunger of Immortality: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14636). Religion can't scare an atheist. Our own conclusion condemns us to a certain destiny of eternal nothingness even worst than most versions of hell and that didn't make us retract it.Here is the mistake in the thinking of Spanish writer, Miguel de Unamuno. Few people understand how deeply our souls and spirits are embedded within the core existence of the universe. Spanish writer, Miguel de Unamuno was among those who don't understand. The core existence of the universe includes the dimensions, the parallel universes, the intelligence of the universe, and all time. In addition, there are probably many more things that are included that people haven't yet found out about. The point? The destruction of the universe and the attached souls is a far greater happening than people understand. There is no such thing as simple death. There are only two points about the hereafter. Either, be removed from this universe and do not die, or go down with the collapse and dissolution of all space and time, to which your soul and essence is connected at its core. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.
The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them. not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation. Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion. You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Really every human creation is in relation to any of the religion in one way or the other. People who don't believe in this and relate everything with science indicates not only Christianity, every religion a poison. Science is religion. How can you tell? Over the last 300 years especially, many things of science have been found out. People have accepted them as truth. Then, later science found out that some of these things were not correct. So it is that people had believed something that was not correct. Science is a religion of faith in the abilities of scientists to be able to find out the truth. Scientists often don't have the ability to find out the truth. But when people believe that they do, there is a religion of science going. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The problem with Christianity is that it's time has come and gone... Literally
The whole symbolism that the Jews used then writing the old Testament and the prophecy of the Messiah, Jesus... Revolves around astrology and numerology
Specifically, 4000 years ago Abraham was ready to murder his own son, but God provided a ram instead...
This was the symbol for the procession of the zodiac signs... The ram is the sign for Aires, the age at the time...
Jesus is represented by the fish, Pisces... His age is from approx 0 AD until 2000 AD...
As we have now passed into the age of Aquarius, Jesus will be replaced by a new religion, for the new age...
Actually, the new age that is coming will remove all opposition to God. Opposition will remove so completely that there will be nothing but the strength of God remaining. In this strength will be found joy and glory that last forever and ever. Even appearances of some form of opposition to God will be destroyed in the lake of fire. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) You're making a solid prediction here, any idea when this might happen? What are your confidence intervals? If OTOH you don't have any, you should probably modify your statement. I'm simply repeating a prediction made in the Revelation and other parts of the Bible. I am not repeating it word for word. You can read the Bible to see exactly how it is worded. How long does a person live in this life? A few people live more than 100 years. Most die before they reach their 100th birthday. Essentially, the prediction time you are asking for will happen at the day of their death if Jesus hasn't actually returned before that time. Why? Because the next thing the dead people will see is Jesus calling them out of the grave into the judgment. For those of us who remain alive at the time of the coming of Jesus, we will go directly into judgment. And actually, those of us who died in or are living in faith in Jesus-salvation, will pass through the judgment rather rapidly. It will be shown that we are in Jesus, and a judgment of our individual sins will pass, because Jesus already took them on the cross about 2,000 years ago. The judgment of those who are not found with Jesus-faith will take a little longer. They will be judged according to each mistake that they rejected Jesus-salvation for. They will have full recognition of each sin, and the strength of it. God is not unjust, even to the unbelievers. They will all know exactly what they are being dissolved for, and the strength of the pain that they will be getting in their dissolution, which will take an eternity. Most of the judgment will be based on how much opportunity they had to believe in Jesus-salvation, but how strongly they rejected Him. Jesus said that of that actual day and hour - the judgment day time - nobody knows. While He was living His life on earth, even He didn't know when it would happen. And further, Solomon said that people don't know the day of their death ahead of time. This is born out by many people who thought they were in the throes of death, but then they lived... and by the many that seemed confident that they were not going to die, but are not among us any longer. In the Gospel books of the N.T., Jesus expresses the signs that will be appearing in the earth just prior to His second coming. Most of the signs have happened already. One of the few signs remaining that hasn't been fulfilled is that the Gospel must be preached among all nations. There are still a few tribes in remote jungles that haven't had the Gospel preached to them. Some of them have languages or dialects that must be understood before they can be preached to. So, there is a little time left... but not much. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The problem with Christianity is that it's time has come and gone... Literally
The whole symbolism that the Jews used then writing the old Testament and the prophecy of the Messiah, Jesus... Revolves around astrology and numerology
Specifically, 4000 years ago Abraham was ready to murder his own son, but God provided a ram instead...
This was the symbol for the procession of the zodiac signs... The ram is the sign for Aires, the age at the time...
Jesus is represented by the fish, Pisces... His age is from approx 0 AD until 2000 AD...
As we have now passed into the age of Aquarius, Jesus will be replaced by a new religion, for the new age...
Actually, the new age that is coming will remove all opposition to God. Opposition will remove so completely that there will be nothing but the strength of God remaining. In this strength will be found joy and glory that last forever and ever. Even appearances of some form of opposition to God will be destroyed in the lake of fire. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.
You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.
So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"? +1 He basically just admitted all religions are man-made to fill the gaps in knowledge/understanding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gapsThis is a plus 1 religion of Moloch's. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.
The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them. not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation. Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion. You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"? Rather, you are making up and following a religion that thinks that God doesn't exist. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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i think anti god posting should be illegal and punishable too.
Ah... My good old Inquisition, where you burned alive the Jews and the heretics on the public place. You miss me a lot ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ... If some dumbass Christian tries to kill me... I'ma try to kill him right back! (lessons learned from watching Firefly/Serenity) If God is with me, you won't have any chance. I may not even have to do anything, because he could make you die just right now. I would not kill you, because even if you're backward, you seem to have some reflexion power (even if it is misused, it is still here). We need to relax... in a way. God has given over a reasonable amount of his power to people. He did it because He saw that we could be a noble people as we walk in His view in our lives. But we all have corrupted our ways, even if it is only a little. The sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross isn't understood very well. Jesus didn't only die to take some obscure punishment for the people. Rather, He died to uphold the universe. In our lives, we ride only the outer fringes of our life. For example. It has long been known that the subconscious part of the mind is vastly larger than the conscious part. In a similar way, our souls and spirits play a much larger part in the universe than we generally understand. Our souls are great enough that they reach right to the core of the structure of the universe. God made it this way. The universe was to be ours. The thing that Jesus did on the cross did not only uphold the lives of people. Rather, He upheld the whole universe by injecting the strength of His character into a universe that is connected to the souls and spirits of people. It was necessary that He do this if He wanted to save us, because God can't stand even a shadow of imperfection. Our imperfection in the universe would have meant destruction of the whole universe because of it. Don't be upset by Moloch. He is only looking at the outside of things a little. And actually, it's a little bit of a benefit for us that he is. Why? Because the childish expressions of the things he attempts to believe, cause a revulsion for things like him, in us, so that we don't want to partake of that foolishness. We firmly move away from him and his kind, so we will not be destroyed in the coming wrath of God. It's kind of like the families of Dathan and Abiram, in Israel, during the 40 years that they wandered in the desert before they entered the land of Canaan. Dathan and Abiram were in the family line of Levi. So, they thought that they should have some of the power and authority that Moses and Aaron were expressing. They thought this way because they were only looking at earthly power. They were doing like Moloch talks about all the time. They were after the fame, the glory and the money. Moses and Aaron were obeying and attempting to obey God. So, when Dathan and Abiram pushed themselves forward to wrest some of the authority from Moses and God, God told Moses to have the Israelite community separate themselves from the families of Dathan and Abiram. Israel obeyed Moses, and Dathan and Abiram and their families came to the entryways of their tents to watch. The the earth opened up and swallowed Dathan and Abiram and their families down into their graves alive. Don't fret so much about Moloch and the noise he makes. Rather, step back from him and his kind - his family, so to speak - and watch the power of the Lord figuratively open up the earth and swallow those rebellious people into the heart of their graves, right before our eyes. After all, it is the Lord that they are boasting against, not us. We stand in the protection of the Lord. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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If you go back to Genesis it mentions that their are other people outside of the garden. They were called son's of Gods, daughters of men, and the Nephilim.
You intentionally distract people from where the Nephilim came. The were not talked about in the Garden, in the creation. This means that they came from elsewhere... off planet. The Nephilim were also called the angels in some of the old translations... son's of God (angels) coming in to the daughters of men. It's about time you jokers wake up and see the great history of the universe that is talked about in Genesis, and followed through in the rest of the Bible. Revelation talks about the war between Michael and the Dragon (Satan). The Dragon was cast to the earth. His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. What stars? The stars are angels. Revelation 1:20b: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches... The stars are angels. What are angels doing in the sky acting like stars? They are holding and operating the natural laws of the universe. Their job was finished when Jesus took over, right from Genesis 3:15, the first promise of the Savior. The Nephilim had time to come to the earth, because their position of physics law holders was over, even before the Beginning. Read and wake up. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Who knew importing bags of rice and sugar in the US was such a dramatic olympic sport event... Sure would be fun to see the US border states legalize marihuana grown in state, and then enforce state laws against illegal shipments coming in from Mexico. Because then the Texas Rangers would be on the job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNTOi6Fh3ZEMaking you fly up in the air in slow motion, while making you screaming not in slow motion, is a super power all Texas Rangers should have... Texas Rangers are not the only ones with super powers today. Obama has the power to make Super bad deals. Hillary has the power to be Super crazy. And we all have the power to place him in prison and her in an asylum when necessary. But the longer we wait to do it, the more difficulty we will have doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&index=10&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufcgCDd8KBM![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.
The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them. not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation. Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion. You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The major reason why I might like to see Trump win would be, all those other candidates deserve to lose the money they spend on their campaigns... but not Trump. I would hate to see Trump lose all that precious money of his that he spent on his campaign. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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It's not, but there are people that making a movement with accrediting science, I.e. Scientism. A religion is a faith based so a science will never be a religion
In the strict sense, science is not religion. When scientists and politicians take science theory (which is not know to be fact) and state and teach that it is fact, especially when they know that it is not fact, they are creating a religion. When people believe that science theory is fact, they have a religion going for themselves. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Theoretical scientist, does not express opinion. There data's undergo scrutiny thus making it a concrete base of evidence. Do you even know what's scientific method? All people, even theoretical scientists, have opinions about many things. Concrete base of evidence doesn't take evidence out of evidence status. Concrete evidence is simply evidence that is firm evidence... but it is still only evidence. A scientific theory can have many scientific facts within it. The theory part is not the facts. The theory part is the relation between the facts, and a new idea. The facts can remain solidly facts. But the new idea is still just an idea. The strength of the combining of the facts in new idea form is what makes the idea a theory. A few lines about the scientific method doesn't express the details of what the method is all about. Science theory is still theory, even though a lot of people try to suggest the odds of how close to fact it might be. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The Bible is eye witness accounts in many cases, backed up traditionally as such by one of the most stubborn of all nations, the Jews. It is sound psychology in other areas. It is common social relationship styles in other areas. It is workable law and order in other areas, law and order that are implemented in society all around us, because it works. Wake up. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Eye witness accounts are the worst type of evidence. People willingly and not distort what they see. If they even understand what they are seeing. The difference regarding the Old Testament is that the miracles of Moses were so great that, even if there was some discrepancy among the witnesses (which there was not), the record of Moses has come down to us today untarnished. How can it be untarnished? Because of the greatness of the Moses miracles, the stubborn nation of Israel has essentially incorporated the Torah - and really, the whole Tanakh - into their family line forever. The O.T. is the truth. There is great common sense in the writings of the bible. They make tremendous sense. And part of the bible was written long after it happened. Like the new testament. Not by the people who lived through it. Not true. The New Testament writers are who they say they are. Even Paul the Apostle, a great N.T. writer, was living throughout the life of Jesus on earth. Then the books that would constitute the bible were chosen by the church. Wrong. The O.T. is the same Tanakh that the people of Israel believed. The reason that the Church selected the N.T. writings that they did was, many false or tarnished writings were being added to the N.T. The Church selected the writings based on how they matched the O.T. of Israel. If things were found in a N.T. book that didn't fit with the O.T., that book was left out of the Bible. This is the way that the Bible remains the truth. Hardly a trustworthy source. By the way we no longer believe we should have slaves. Not that those social rules didn't exist before the bible too.
Slavery is a benefit to a destitute person who turns his life over to another who can save him. Slave and indentured servant are often used interchangeably. The Old Testament speaks against stealing a person. But to keep peace among corrupt lawbreakers, God regulates slavery to the best benefit of both slave and master. Saint Paul tells the slaves that if they can gain their freedom, to do so. The O.T. says that if a slave loves his master, and wants to remain a slave, he can enslave himself to his master for life. Doesn't sound like a bad form of slavery. A lot of homeless people would like a position like that. Wake up. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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It's not, but there are people that making a movement with accrediting science, I.e. Scientism. A religion is a faith based so a science will never be a religion
In the strict sense, science is not religion. When scientists and politicians take science theory (which is not know to be fact) and state and teach that it is fact, especially when they know that it is not fact, they are creating a religion. When people believe that science theory is fact, they have a religion going for themselves. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Surely, science is not a religion. All religions have their own myths and the respecting people follow their customs. The real fact is,all of the rules and regulations of different religions behind a solid scientific reason. It shows that the result is good or bad.
Yeah Science and Religion are entirely different. As said religion is based on spiritual beliefs with ancient following but science is based on truth which gives proof for existence. ... except that they both are fact in some areas, and religion in other areas. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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It was stated that gang violence and homicides are excluded else the US would have like 100-150 k deaths per year through gun violence alone.
Btw. Im actually for having guns but even more for tight enough gun controls that no wrong people get it. Also i believe strongly that there is no need to have "war making" weapons legal. (Semi to full automatic weapons) Go hunting and on shooting tournaments all you want i just dont want to see ppl with g36 or uzis running around on the street thanks.
Stated by whom? I would love to see you back up that bullshit number. Either you aren't bothering to look very hard or you don't have a clue how statistics work and are just repeating what some gun control freak said. I have produced statistics to back up my arguments, now you give it a try, but I know you won't because you can't, because those numbers are a fabrication. The right to bear arms is NOT about hunting and target shooting, it is about having the people be armed so that the government can be prevented from turning completely tyrannical, and preserving the individual's right to self defense. All the gang violence in the world can't match the death and suffering created by an unchecked tyrannical government. It would be great if we could keep the "wrong" people from getting guns, but that is just a fantasy like the tooth fairy, and indulging that fantasy will cost MORE LIVES. Just because it is a positive concept does not mean it is viable to be implemented in REALITY. There are so many holes in your logic it is not even funny, but that is a common theme with gun control freaks who are motivated wholly by emotions and just skip over the inconvenient logic part required to actually attain those goals. 1. Collect underpants 2. ? ? ? 3. Profit You cry and cry about #3 but never have a viable plan for #2. The figure is wrong because that is actually not a yearly figure. Its for a decade. The yearly death tolls through gun violence in the US is 10-15+ k. So actually all your arguments boil down to a possible tyrannical government that wants to put people in gulags? Is it 2016 yet? If you are scared for that reason and want to be armed with heavy weapons then i can only tell you that the us political system and society is broken. Not only is the U.S. political system and society broken, but that of every other government in the world is broken just the same. That's why Americans need guns. The only reason why governments of the world don't literally make slaves of their people is because of gun freedom in America. It works like this. If any world government made slaves of its people, the people would see the freedom Americans have because Americans have guns, and they would rise up and get guns and put their government down. Be glad Americans have gun freedom. American gun freedom is keeping the whole world free. If Americans lost their gun freedom, there would be nothing to keep government leaders of the world from rising up and making slaves of their people, including in America. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The Bible says that the whole universe is only a little over 6,000 years old. The whole idea of a 13 or 14 billion year old universe is 100% speculation by scientists who would rather be speculators than scientists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Scientific theories are backed up by a body of evidence, they are not 100% speculation as you wrongly claim. The bible is backed up by wishful thinking, which is 100% blind speculation, ie faith. You are simply too proud and stubborn to admit the bible is wrong, which the insurmountable evidience says it is. Oh quit picking on me, Fluffer. You know as well as I that many scientific theories are backed up by lots more than simple evidence. Many have all kinds of facts backing them up. The thing that makes them to be theories is the way the evidence or facts are combined. It isn't the facts or evidence that are theoretical or questionable. It is how they are used and combined that makes the whole thing questionable theory. The Bible is eye witness accounts in many cases, backed up traditionally as such by one of the most stubborn of all nations, the Jews. It is sound psychology in other areas. It is common social relationship styles in other areas. It is workable law and order in other areas, law and order that are implemented in society all around us, because it works. Wake up. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.
The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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So, you are claiming that although the bible condones slavery, it was "the good kind of slavery"? That's your defense? My defense in said post is that the bible regulates the situation back then (when slavery was common), however expressed no support of the act of enslavement. Where is the support for this? You claim it's in the bible, but it's not... slavery in the bible is very cruel and quite descriptive... it included things like, "you are allowed to beat your slave so long as he does not die within 2 days" That's Old Testament. When referring to the Christian bible, the New Testament is implied. The Old Testament was meant for the time before the coming of Christ (which by those practicing Judaism is THE bible since they don't consider Jesus as the son of God and are still waiting for one (the reason for 2 religions - Christianity and Judaism - instead of one)). I already linked it in this post but here's a rather brief explanation in regards to the Old Testament: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1412734.msg14336544#msg14336544That's the dumbest argument christians have ever made... This whole notion of the New Testament overwriting the Old Testament is complete horseshit nonsense that is not supported anywhere in the bible or dogma of christianity You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus, and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate, but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme Besides, Jesus himself said, "Not a jot or tittle of the Law will change until I return" (speaking of Mosaic law, the Old Testament laws!) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 22:34-40: 34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together.
35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
37 Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." Notice the part, "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." Essentially what Jesus was saying with this part is that there is no obedience of the Law without love of God and love of your neighbor. The jots and tittles are held in place by love. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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So, you are claiming that although the bible condones slavery, it was "the good kind of slavery"? That's your defense? My defense in said post is that the bible regulates the situation back then (when slavery was common), however expressed no support of the act of enslavement. Where is the support for this? You claim it's in the bible, but it's not... slavery in the bible is very cruel and quite descriptive... it included things like, "you are allowed to beat your slave so long as he does not die within 2 days" That's Old Testament. When referring to the Christian bible, the New Testament is implied. The Old Testament was meant for the time before the coming of Christ (which by those practicing Judaism is THE bible since they don't consider Jesus as the son of God and are still waiting for one (the reason for 2 religions - Christianity and Judaism - instead of one)). I already linked it in this post but here's a rather brief explanation in regards to the Old Testament: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1412734.msg14336544#msg14336544That's the dumbest argument christians have ever made... This whole notion of the New Testament overwriting the Old Testament is complete horseshit nonsense that is not supported anywhere in the bible or dogma of christianity You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus, and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate, but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme Besides, Jesus himself said, "Not a jot or tittle of the Law will change until I return" (speaking of Mosaic law, the Old Testament laws!) Acts 15:19-21: “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.” Who were the Torah laws given to? The Egyptians? No, no, no. The Babylonians? No, no, no. The Persians? No, no, no. The Christians? No, no, no. The Jews? Yes, yes, yes. Do the laws change, that is, is a jot or tittle dropped from the law when it is not obeyed? No, no, no. "Christian" is talking about a person who has aligned himself with Jesus, the Christ. If we love Him, we will do what He says. His command is that we love one another. After all, even though the Law stands unchanged throughout the rest of this age, Jesus has overcome the Law. Salvation is by faith in Jesus. And salvation is the important thing. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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