And of course, an oldie, but always a goodie:
God doesn't prevent terrible things because:
1) He can't 2) He doesn't want to 3) He causes them 4) He doesn't exist.
Which one do you think is the right answer?
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How do you go from no energy in no field of nothing, containing no objects, motion, or information, to the particular arrangement of atoms that constitutes you, right here, right now?
What could possibly ever have caused anything to happen in all of eternity, ever?
Logically, the first and only thing that could ever be in all eternity, would HAVE to be a point of authority over every single parameter to follow.
I'm not following your logic. Why must there be a point of authority? Where did that point of authority come from? By the way, our search for the Higgs Boss on answered the question of where the universe came from. While searching for the "god" particle in the particle accelerator, we discovered that spontaneous explosions of matter and antimatter are popping out of nothing all the time, everywhere. Nothing is needed for those explosions to happen, they just do it on a quantum scale. They quickly revert as matter and antimatter annihilate each other, so we never notice them without specialized powerful instruments. But this explosion is exactly what the Big Bang was: a spontaneous quantum explosion of matter and antimatter that was bigger than "normal," and just happened to have kept going. Since these things happen on their own, and we have observed them, there is really nothing special about the Big Bang explosion, nor anything special that had to happen for it to exist. And as to the question of how did something come out of nothing, just like the tiny explosions of matter and antimatter that we observe, our Big Bang derived universe was also an explosion of matter and antimatter. So if you were to sum up everything that exists in our entire universe, the sum total of all matter and antimatter cancels each other out, and is also equal to zero/nothing. In other words, our entire universe is just all equal parts positive and equal parts negative, the sum of which is zero, and we just happen to live among the positive stuff in it.
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Posts that were taking verses out of context, and mis-characterizing God as some sort of evil Malevolent for were mainly what I was talking about, the level of hate that athiests generally show is surprising. Also the level of mis-information that passes as good arguments in the athiest camp is equally shocking.
It's not bigotry. Bigotry is when you base an opinion on something other than fact, such as all Asians and women are bad drivers, or all Africans have a lower IQ than whites. Facts don't support that opinion, and thus it's bigotry. Christians claiming things like evolution is a myth, homosexuality is a choice, the world is 6,000 years old, and that there is an omnipotent being that watches you masturbate and blesses you with football game wins, but fails to lift a finger to help the famines in Africa, are claims that are not substantiated with facts, and go against the evidence. Saying those Christians are idiots is just stating a fact. Also, it's not hate. At most it's sad pity. Sometimes, rarely, it's hate, but it's not the kind of hate that Christians display when they hate those of other religions, or other beliefs, or other sexualities or sins. It's a self defense hate; hating Christians back for being such spiteful, condescending cunts to other people because their faith says it's OK for them to do.
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At the very least, it requires the humility to recognize that you're not God, you're not perfect, you're not even "good" compared to him, but he gave everything to bridge the gap, if only you would open the door.
Problem is that, although I do recognize that I am no god, I also recognize that I am more moral than the god of the bible. For example, I think slavery is wrong, I think rape justifies a big bigger punishment than forced marriage and some silver, I think torture of any kind is wrong, and I'm able to forgive things. I especially would not torture someone for all eternity for making fun of me or my name.
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I'm actually a little bit confused as to why people find it so hard to believe in God.
Is it really easier to believe that we all "just happened" through some fluke of science? I mean really... We all came from single cell organism that after untold millions of years eventually mutated to the point where we can create wonderful things like the '68 Firebird Coupe, or the Bitcoin system? Riiiight... I call Bull Shit on that!
Do the atheists really believe this all "just happened"? Come on guys! LOL! That take's WAY more "faith" in my book than just buying into the supreme being idea.
Sorry, but I find the supreme being idea WAY more credible.
And this is why religion is so destructive and stupifying. Religion can't figure out an answer to something, so it just comes up with a convenient fairy tale to explain the problem away, without even caring if the story is supported by anything substantial or factual. Science tries to actually explain things based on observable facts and logic. In the case of where we came from, science says, "I don't know, but all the evidence seems to point to this explanation, however, I might still be wrong, and we still need to ask more questions." Religion says I don't know, but here is a nice story, now stop asking questions." As to your question of "why people find it so hard to believe in God," try to honestly believe in Santa Claus, or fairies, or leprichauns, or Superman, or Harry Potter. Believe that they exist and are true with all your heart. If you can't convince yourself that they exist, no matter how hard you try, because in the back of your mind you keep thinking that such an idea is absurd, then you'll know why it's so hard. Some people just include the idea of god among the rest of the absurd things to believe in.
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The one thing I could never figure out: if god is love why is there hell? If god is forgiving, why is hell eternal?
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Time is only relevant to the fellow with a watch.
Time is merely another tool of human construct with which to view and measure the world.
Prove matter is dependent upon time. I will hang up and listen.
E = MC^2 C = 299,792,458 meters per second. The unit of measure is relative and arbitrary. We could say it's 670,616,629 miles per hour. Regardless, it's a constant, dependent on a constant time.
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You know, as long as we keep driving in our 1980's steel muscle cars, god has no power over us.
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." (Judges 1:19)
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Time is an illusion of human device a relative concept, backed by math, and grounded in science, being one of three fundamental components that make up all matter in existence. Religion (also an illusion) gives those without reason a lens with which to view their surroundings and examine their inner selves too lazy to think and learn, a convenient, simple, happy story, which can be summarized as "God did it," and be used as an excuse from having to figure out what happened and from taking responsibility for one's own life. The absence of faith is indeed faith simply growing up and putting the children's stories behind us.
I wonder if pwi believes that one needs faith to not believe in unicorns and Harry Potter...
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Then there was my case. I "believed" in God, but what had he done for me lately? Nothing. Then I got ill. Very Ill. ... Miraculously, I recovered, only to get cancer a couple years later. ... Then it happened AGAIN - this time a major heart attack.
Holy crap, god must really hate your ass. He keeps trying to kill you, but those meddling doctors keep saving you. No wonder god hates biology and medical science!
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I still think that barcodes will be used as the mark of the beast. Each barcode has 666 hidden in it already.
Thankfully the world is just about through coddling medieval superstitious nonsense. Childish notions like these are refuted over and over yet some choose to wallow in ignorance. No one knows if there is a Creator but we do know the Bible, and every entity in man's entire pantheon, are false. Take the thumb out of your mouth and grow up before Zeus strikes you with a thunderbolt. http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/barcode.aspIf you are so sure you are right then I have a simple challenge for you. Pray one little prayer: "God if you are real, show yourself to me." It sound simple, yet so many people I talk to are unwilling to do that one simple little thing. OK... I did that... Was something supposed to happen? Also, how come you don't believe in Santa Claus?
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im waiting for government involvement to stabilize things, have a nice day.
Sounds great. Then we can get back to how it should be. A monopoly system with a group of privileged bankers. no, the governement hunts scammers and hold them to justice. governements can be good. <- this is what you people fail to understand. Government is not a nebulous god-like entity, government is people who decided to give themselves extra powers with consent of those they rule over. So if people are generally bad, corrupt, and can be bribed, government is generally bad, corrupt, and can be bribed. If people are generally good, then they don't need government to interact peacefully with each other in the first place. Government is just whatever you think people are like, plus extra powers, plus incentives to be bribed in return for political favors.
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Atheros, what's your donation address for Bitmessage?
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I wonder, if some such program starts doing something that's against the law, and a programmer who supports the program writes code to help the program avoid the law, would he be charged with breaking the law, or assisting a criminal?
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...3D PRINTED DOGS! Hell, yeah!!! I can't find the pattern for that. Besides, only if it prints puppies. Can you imagine the cost of printing full grown English Mastiffs? (grin) They are the best. I seriously started to buy a couple, but then didn't. Got to worrying about how to fit the couches in by the TV. And also, how to get them to a vet if they got sick or old and it was necessary to carry them. Looked like a job for about four guys and a pickup. What you could seriously print would be dog toys....have to check on plastics compatibility with dog digestion, of course. One of the 3D printer plastic "ink" choices available is corn starch based biodegradable plastic. It's a bit more expensive though.
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If there is clear non refutable proof that Bitcoin anything at all is of the beast system, every Christian Atheist, nonbeliever, or polytheist will drop Bitcoin for commodities become a Christian, since that will be irrefutable proof that Christian religion is true, and faith will be replaced by fact.
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There are reasons for mass emails which aren't actually spam. Church groups, civic clubs, political parties, internal messaging, etc., all benefit from mass emails.
However, I like the idea of preventing spam by requiring a proof-of-work for someone you don't actually know, especially if they don't really want your contact. But what I'm wondering is this: might I suggest that if a pre-existing key exchange has occurred (PGP, Bithash, scrypt, etc.) that there be an opt-in standing agreement which can be revoked by the recipient at any time?
E-mail works by trying to figure out where a specific e-mail recipient exists, and trying to route the message to that recipient. Bitmessage works by encrypting a message with a recipient's address, along with some proof-of-work, and broadcasting it to the entire network, the same way Bitcoin broadcasts transaction information. The recipient just listens to/relays all broadcasts, and if a message if for them, they grab it and decrypt it. Broadcasting for mailing lists works similarly, where a mailing list encrypts the e-mail using its own public address, adds proof-of-work, and also just broadcast the message, but the recipients, instead of listening for messages with their own address, listen for messages from the mailing list address. Once they get it, they grab it and decrypt it with the public mailing list's public address. So you still get anti-spam proof-of-work, but the PoW needs to be done once, even for mailing lists.
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I certainly understand the sentiment and would love to do the same. I expect I'd have no problem with pretty much all organisations that would be considered for support. I would however refuse to donate to organisations such as Monsanto or the RIAA and for this reason alone simply cannot say "I pledge 1 BTC to any charity/organisation which adds a Bitcoin donation option".
I think the policy is basically nothing political, nothing religious, and more charity than just non-profit. That would exclude any SuperPACs, as well as Monsanto and RIAA. So I wouldn't worry about that.
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If anyone from the project is lurking here: Guys, seriously. Build a Fine Arts school or something to attract more females.
Or they could, I don't know, maybe attract successful people who have families or girlfriends. I wouldn't be surprised if a big reason for Bitcoin 2013 was mostly male was because a lot of the guys left their girls at home.
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Generations of Hope has used BitPay to start accepting Bitcoins: http://www.generationsofhope.org/donate/Let me know if I can provide any more information. I am sure they would be excited to see some actual Bitcoin donations. Dan How did they come to accept it? I think all of the press about Bitcoin during the rally pushed them over the edge. The Director heard several pieces on Bitcoin on NPR. They used BitPay for the implementation, and put a big logo on the Donate page. As with most nonprofits, you can get to the donate page from almost anywhere on the site. Now, hopefully it pays off for them Dan I think it should. Any objections?
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