I have created a crowd-funding project for this at PMF that anyone can donate to http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/378using one BitPay merchant to help another! To participate, you can reserve (pledge) shares. All donations will be collected once the goal is reached. i just bought 10 shares ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Little update - http://btccharts.com/betaChanges: - new UI (more "finger friendly") - some stability improvements (not sure this one) - 2 new drag areas: volume log scale, sales time range - only black theme (too much trouble with two) - time labels - two new exchanges: BitCurex, BitFloor - improved quality setting with auto adjustment at the first time This is much more usable on android devices. well done. i like it. it would be nice to be able to make the settings bars at the top and bottom go away. no big deal though
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And despite the advice of several forum posters, you're still talking here... You really aren't doing yourself a favor with comments like these. Frankly I've got nothing invested in this but my opinion of you lowers every time you open your mouth. Take some friendly advice and stop talking. You're in deep here and you need to lawyer up and stfu. This ^ zhou, i personally believe you are innocent. You really need to "lawyer up and STFU" If Zhou was innocent, he certainly would "lawyer up and STFU", but he is not. I don't understand what you're basing the assumption of "he would only need a lawyer if he was innocent" of off. You would still want to lawyer up and STFU if you're guilty.
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Deals confirmed by extremely reliable 3rd parties with access to Bitcoinica's actual financial status?
I'm not sure what you mean by "confirmed". The offers were made and I know of no reason those deals would not have worked out. It is possible that Bitcoinica's actual financial status was nothing like it was believed to be, in which case the deals would likely not have worked out. That would require everyone at Bitcoinica to have been lying, which though possible, doesn't seem particularly likely to me. zhou, i personally believe you are innocent. You really need to "lawyer up and STFU" This assumes that Zhou is more concerned about possible criminal charges or the like than he is concerned about his reputation in the industry. I think he's more concerned about the latter, and that's part of the reason I also think the Bitcoinica situation is more or less as reported. Everyone involved intends to have a future once they get past this mess. reputation and criminal charges go hand in hand. There are plenty of ways to "prove" and innocent person is guilty, especially if he talks a lot. Getting a lawyer would help you with both criminal charges and reputation when all is said and done. there is a common misconception that only guilty people need lawyers. I would go as far to say that innocent people need lawyers even more, especially in a situation this complex.
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For me it seems like CM a couple seconds ahead as far as the "real time charting" goes. I don't know the technical details about that, but it would be nice if you could reduce that delay somehow. CM is using socket connection from mtgox. I don't use it because it is loosing connection when you really want it and very often miss some data (orderbook is getting very messy). No way I will be back to this (as long it's over socket.io). So what are you currently using? Don't bother explaining if its too technical, I'm no techie.
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It's my personal freedom to create an account with reused password right? And did I harm anyone?
Chen Jianhai could simply register another email and steal all the money. And we wouldn't proceed with investigation like today. Thank god he used my account and left all the evidence there, otherwise Bitcoinica users will never see the money again!
And despite the advice of several forum posters, you're still talking here... You really aren't doing yourself a favor with comments like these. Frankly I've got nothing invested in this but my opinion of you lowers every time you open your mouth. Take some friendly advice and stop talking. You're in deep here and you need to lawyer up and stfu. This ^ zhou, i personally believe you are innocent. You really need to "lawyer up and STFU"
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awesome, thank a lot. Just after posting that I realized that Clark had responded to my suggestion on his thread. I suggested this same thing to Clark a while ago. it was stupid of me to post this suggestion before i checked his thread. I really don't see any problem here ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I don't want to seem rude, but I prefer Clark moody because you can see the order book in actual numbers without having to mouse over anything. Although, I can see why many prefer your site, maybe because they are more of a visual learner. Also, the side-bar feature is an advantage that you have over Clark moody. Anyways, I think its a good suggestion and I'm sure a lot of people would love the new feature.
I have a "policy" to show everything in some kind of visual form. But ok, some day you will see orderbook in numbers (for me it's just blur of information, but I've abandoned trading a while ago so I can be a little out of perspective ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ). I meant I was rude to Clark to go and suggest this to a "competitor" (I know nothing about your relationship) without checking his thread first. Also, pointing out advantages/disadvantages might come off as rude to you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting you switch to the numbers style depth chart. It's my personal preference and I'm sure more people prefer the visual style that you're currently using. Although having the option to switch back and forth would be cool. Currently, I use both of your sites because they each have their own advantages. For me it seems like CM a couple seconds ahead as far as the "real time charting" goes. I don't know the technical details about that, but it would be nice if you could reduce that delay somehow. Again, these are just suggestions that I think your users would love to see implemented.
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I've changed counter from cookie id based to IP based, because there was some unknown issues for this solution. This will count connections from multiple clients behind the same LAN network as one, but should be a lot more accurate anyway.
Also I've implemented anti crash system for exchanges services, so there's good chance issues like couple hours ago will not take place in the future.
do you have any plans to implement sounds into btccharts.com? For example play a sound when a sell happens and different sound for a buy, and even better a separate sound for high volume or (as defined by the user) sell/buy, and an option to ignore trades under a certain volume threshold as defined by user. ofc you would have the option to mute it, or better yet, change the volume. This would really help me a lot because I wouldn't have to watch my screen or even have the tab open to hear a rally/crash going on. I could be doing something else and I would hear it, rather than having to open the tab to check. This feature is in my plans, but first I must finish what actually I'm working on. Lets say you can expect sounds in max 2 months. awesome, thank a lot. Just after posting that I realized that Clark had responded to my suggestion on his thread. I suggested this same thing to Clark a while ago. it was stupid of me to post this suggestion before i checked his thread. I don't want to seem rude, but I prefer Clark moody because you can see the order book in actual numbers without having to mouse over anything. Also, I like the fact that clark moody shows up to 0.00000 decimal points on the price because that is what mtgox goes by and you can tell when someone is just over/undercutting. Although, I can see why many prefer your site, maybe because they are more of a visual learner. Also, the side-bar and the ghost line features are an advantage that you have over Clark Moody. Anyways, I think its a good suggestion and I'm sure a lot of people would love the new feature.
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@clark i think it would be a lot better if you changed the uptick/downtick to be buy/sell instead. Idk how hard this would be, but that's the only advantage that btccharts has over clark moody. If you changed this i would never have to go to btcharts to check if something was a buy or a sell. also, the .01 bots make the uptick/downtick method really misleading.
In my upcoming trading platform, this is how it works. I will change the current site over when I add the sounds. awesome, this sounds great!
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I've changed counter from cookie id based to IP based, because there was some unknown issues for this solution. This will count connections from multiple clients behind the same LAN network as one, but should be a lot more accurate anyway.
Also I've implemented anti crash system for exchanges services, so there's good chance issues like couple hours ago will not take place in the future.
do you have any plans to implement sounds into btccharts.com? For example play a sound when a sell happens and different sound for a buy, and even better a separate sound for high volume or (as defined by the user) sell/buy, and an option to ignore trades under a certain volume threshold as defined by user. ofc you would have the option to mute it, or better yet, change the volume. This would really help me a lot because I wouldn't have to watch my screen or even have the tab open to hear a rally/crash going on. I could be doing something else and I would hear it, rather than having to open the tab to check.
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Psychology is a barbaric and corrupt practice
+1
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You are giving out wayyyy too much information. zhou, you should find a lawyer and stop talking. even if you're innocent (which i'm assuming you are), its ALWAYS best to say nothing and let your lawyer(s) speak on your behalf. People who talk a lot are more likely to convicted of crimes they didn't commit because most of what you say can be misinterpreted and used against you in court. There is ABSOLUTELY 0 benefit of giving out any information whether you are guilty or not. Any lawyer in his right mind would tell you to stop talking and let him handle it. Please trust me on this. Even if everything you are saying is 100% truth, there are so many ways to turn it against you to make you look guilty. I know you want to keep Bitcoinica customers informed, but a lawyer is going to help you AND the Bitcoinica customers reach a more fair agreement than you could do without a lawyer. Inform the police ASAP because its always best to be the first one to report something to law enforcement. If you don't do it, someone else will. Just keep in mind: you WILL end up going to court over this case as a witness, defendant, or whatever. Since this is such a complicated situation involving some serious crimes, GET A LAWYER ASAP. TRUST ME THEY ARE WORTH IT. You're still young, and I think you are super-intelligent and you have a really bright future. Just play this safe, go to the police and get a lawyer, and you will have nothing it worry about if you're innocent. Please don't ego trip and convince yourself that you could do better than a lawyer. plz trust me, lawyers are necessary no matter how smart or innocent you are. Good luck, I hope you take my advice and get through this. And ill say it 1 more time. GET A LAWYER!!!
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14.0.1 OSX
Hmm, well it works on FF 14.0.1 on Windows 7. I have no access to OSX computer though. It's very odd that this should break. Even odder... it works in chrome.... doing some more research. EDIT: It is most certainly something to do with greasemonkey so don't waste any time tracking this down Clark. I am not sure why, but with GM enabled (but any userscripts disabled) is when this problem happens. @kentrolla if you disable GM (make sure the check next to Enabled in the GM menu is unchecked) then the new (blue) orders will disappear. It is very strange this is happening at all. GM must be re-writing some events that are messing with the timers. oh ok. thats strange. damn, i loved your script tho. I know i still owe you some bitcoins, i will have them soon. @clark i think it would be a lot better if you changed the uptick/downtick to be buy/sell instead. Idk how hard this would be, but that's the only advantage that btccharts has over clark moody. If you changed this i would never have to go to btcharts to check if something was a buy or a sell. also, the .01 bots make the uptick/downtick method really misleading.
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Wow it is different
most notably: it's much faster. most notably: more secure imo is your opinion based on hearsay or some facts? How is it more secure? from the OP "We have been working tirelessly to deploy many "behind the scenes" upgrades over the past few months that have vastly improved our security, flexibility and availability." So hearsay it is ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . i guess, those words are straight from DPR himself though. He constantly has people doing pentests and security isn't something that you can't upgrade. You have to be constantly looking for vulnerabilities and fix them. what i gathered from the forums from trusted members is that his pentesters found a lot of vulnerabilities that were fixed in this upgrade. That is why they couldn't say anything about when it was going to go down and couldn't post why SR went down for 10 hours. After they fixed the vulnerabilities then they announced the remake. This all seems pretty plausible to me. I can't see why anyone would think they would lie about upgrading security, because upgrading security is a standard thing that websites must do regularly (even .onion sites). I guess its fair to call it hearsay, because they aren't going to release any proof of what was fixed for security reasons obviously.
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Wow it is different
most notably: it's much faster. most notably: more secure imo is your opinion based on hearsay or some facts? How is it more secure? from the OP "We have been working tirelessly to deploy many "behind the scenes" upgrades over the past few months that have vastly improved our security, flexibility and availability."
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Wow it is different
most notably: it's much faster. most notably: more secure imo
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I don't think a redesign of the site will mean increased influx of new users.
I'm all for improvement, but this won't tap any new userbase. It's not like you happen to see this awesomely designed silkroad page by some accident and then do business on it because it's so pretty. It's also not like you want to order some drugs and are then driven off by a crappy design.
this is true. i was hoping it would draw some media attention. usually gawker does an anti-SR article about anything that goes on on SR. i guess they couldn't find a way to put a negative spin on this. Anyways, the fact that SR upped their security and did this remake because of the influx of new users tells you that SR is growing stronger and more secure.
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Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"
I stand by my tripod statement. Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling. SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc). Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!. Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have. VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling. this the pay 4 porn industry is being killed now because there is so much free porn ,i wouldnt rely on people paying for porn to sustain ANY business or currency as long as google and bittorrent can find you all the porn in the world ....... true, but you would be surprised at how many people still do it. Granted that most people that use bitcoin are savvy enough to not pay for porn. Still, Gambling with bitcoins has a lot of room to grow.
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classic.mtgox.com always seems to work better for me when the main site starts to lag. Also the android app as a last resort.
Thanks for the tip! After two 1000+ BTC mis-orders on the new site, I only use the classic site, which has better UI separation between the buy and sell sections.
Thanks for the tip! The new site is just terrible UI design for volatility traders like me, where one often enters multiple buy & sell orders one after another.
omg this. this has happened to me soooooo many times. accidentally buying while trying to sell. also, sometimes it switches your bid/ask price to market value randomly, and sometimes that happens right before you place an order. sooo frusterating. I have lost hundreds of dollars because of this. TY SO MUCH FOR SHOWING ME CLASSIC MTGOX. The new mtgox UI is TERRIBLE for day trading, or even trading in general Yeah. Had a couple of mishaps like that. Simultaneously buying and selling to myself. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Or accidentally selling instead of buying, as sometimes the Sell Bitcoins tab switches to the Buy Bitcoins tab after placing a sell order. (Upon reloading the page most likely?) "Well, there goes my earnings for the day." Not fun. Shame on me for being sloppy, shame on Mt.Gox for bad UI design. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
Obviously, they gain earn fees from these bad trades. Still, any business that hurts their customers is not good business for any service. The Order type: SELLING/BUYING column of the Your Open Orders tab could use solid color RED and GREEN backgrounds, in place of the indistinguishable alternating blue/white of today. How can I best forward this suggestion to Mt.Gox? PM tux?
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Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"
I stand by my tripod statement. Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling. SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc). Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!. Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have. VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling. this
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