Where is the mining program running? Is it connecting to 127.0.0.0 aka localhost? If not maybe firewall isn't letting it connect, or its IP address is not on the rcpallowip list, yet for some reason its claiming internal sever error (500) instead of unable to connect?

Or does 500 mean it must have connected and the RPC server itself is telling it that it got an internal server error (500) ?

What error does it give when username or password for RPC is incorrect?

-MarkM-

Likely 504 means it is up for so many other people right now that it cannot handle being up for you too.

(Overloaded.)

-MarkM-

Re command not found, if you don't put it on the PATH such as by putting it into /usr/local/bin then you need to specify where to find it, like ./primecoind if it is in your current directory and that directory is not on the PATH.

For example if you compile it then try to run it right there where it got built.

-MarkM-

Well price might also be suppressed by awareness that mining is so lucrative there might not be much incentive to give out your ASICs to the public once you have gotten your initial money from the public by selling them your primitive first stab at it at massive markups...

In other words, there could easily be concerns that the only way to really get into mining might well soon be to design and manufacture ASICs yourself...

The public is rightly concerned that really they don't get to mine as in for an actual profit or even to eke out a minimal, borderline living, they just get to give ASIC developers, in advance, all the coins the ASICs will ever mine, thus saving the ASIC manufacturers the hassle of running mining farms but still giving them all the bitcoins the farms are ever going to mine plus maybe more too...

-MarkM-

I figured the suppressed price was due to ASIC makers dumping lots of coins to pay for millions of dollars of up front stuff necessary to start churning out ASICs.

-MarkM-

Yeah, use the daemon.

As I said this happened with DeVCoin too, we just disabled the gen=1 commands so people cannot turn on mining in the devcoin-qt since we (Unthinkingbit and I) didn't manage to track down what exactly it was that was doing it, other than it looked like some things we needed for doing what devcoin needs to do were not thread-safe, at least, it seems, not in the GUI.

We needed to use curl, or something anyway that would go out and get our lists of recipients for minted coins, so if not being able to mine with the -qt client was fallout from that too bad, its more important to do that key function of devcoin and anyone who does want to mine can use the daemon, which in any case probably uses less resources on the server and allows the server to be headless so for miners it is in any case generally better / more-appropriate anyway.

Since i do not know what you hacked, nor even whether what you have now works fine in Linux, and I do not do windows, I'd just go with "you have to use the daemon to mine" or "install linux in a virtual machine"...

Not very helpful but first thing I do when i buy a box with windows on it is defenestrate it (throw out windows) and that has over the decades proven to be a massive massive massive reducter of stress over long term and short term.

Still, even if it breaks on Linux too, I'd wonder whether whatever it is that needs to use things that are not thread-safe is an importan enough feature of your design that it is worth throwing out GUI-mining to include it, or maybe if GUI-mining is so important to you you could reconsider whether whatever feature you are adding is worth the time it might take to track down some thread problem that only occurs in the GUI not in the actual daemon.

-MarkM-

EDIT: I maybe getting confused though, I just realised this thread is about Tenebrix, yet earlier discussion about hacking a coin resulting in mining crashing in the GUI had been about creating some new coin. Maybe there are two threads currently about this same problem, maybe someone ran into it making a GUI for Tenebrix in addition to someone also recently running into it trying to make some unspecified new coin by hacking some other coin...

The bug has already been found and figured out but people continued on past block 250 already so unless the chain is re-started they are going to have to kick in later than block 251, in fact later than some future block number that will give people plenty of time to upgrade their clients to be ready for it.

-MarkM-

Well we have admins specially for dealing with bad content now so I don't know why it is taking them so long to get to it, maybe they have been prioritising by thousands of words instead of by specific statements buried somewhere in the words.

I am also wondering if Unthinkingbit happens to be asleep right now.

-MarkM-

I still haven't see a link to the prediction-market page where this prediction is actually being made in earnest, so far it seems like just "empty" noise...

At times like this it would be really nice to have a generic futures/options system where one can specify any pair and very easily add new pairs when a new coin worth making predictions about or worth hedging about happens along... But I guess generic prediction markets are the closest available to that so far.

-MarkM-

Actually it is not dropping very well at all, I have buy offers every satoshi all the way up from one satoshi and it keeps on most days not biting back into those, instead it has been stuck up around 67 or 68 after taking quite a while to even eat my offers that had been there.

-MarkM-

The client needs the "latest bitcoin with mining as a secondary chain patches applied" thing that all merged mined coins need, since all of them need it it doesn't make a lot of sense for any of them to go ahead without doing that step first.

I did a bunch of the job already but then bitcoin updated again so I am not sure whether bitcoins latest update amounts to just another patch/pull to apply or would be better approached by starting over with latest bitcoin again applying the merged mine patches again.

Maybe once enough merged mined coins all decide they want to update they can each come up with a bounty to add to help encourage someone to make it happen. I unfortunately am so massively backlogged with other things I need to do that I only was able to apply the first few of the patches, basically the easiest ones to apply.

-MarkM-


EDIT: a DeVCoin gateway on Ripple would make for lots of liquidity but so far the only released code for such a gateway is said to not be production-quality yet plus of course one cannot yet run a rippled server since its code is also unavailable still. As to investments, the iphone and android apps for Open Transactions are not in the app-shops yet so most people have not gotten access to the various Open Transactions servers yet.

Oh cool, i didn't know they had finished that.

Great then, any clonecoin hack can easily update Tenebrix and Fairbrix too any time they want, I wonder how many they have racked up so far using a spare CPU core or few the last few months or years?

-MarkM-

A Ripple gateway might help, giving it access to pretty much any service that is interested in people being able to pay with whatever they want while the vendor gets paid in whatever they want...

With the proliferation of currencies out there, what vendor would bother anymore to use a shopping cart that doesn't automagically allow pretty much any darn thing out there to buy what they sell?

-MarkM-

Oh nice, okay that explains how a malicious large miner was able to drive difficulty way up really fast and strand it before it even reached paying blocks.

-markM-

Were either of them ever really totally unmined though? Any time i checked there were always nodes online and the block count had moved. maybe I just did not happen to catch any of the moments when none were online at all?

People thought the same about BBQcoin, so that last year CPU miners had lovely long long time of mining BBQcoin too not just Tenebrix and Fairbrix. Likely the reason BBQcoin came back into the limelight before them was it was using newer code, whereas miners were content not to be in any rush to update the code of the others?

These coins the big miners keep claiming to be "dead" are perfect for small miners. Playing dead has so far seemed to be the most effective way of providing coins only small miners bother to mine.

-MarkM-

Oh well, once Litecoin updates to latest bitcoin code Tenebrix can use that to jump right to latest code.

-MarkM-

No no, that was from the totally broken everything, almost no one bothered to mine.

Of course paying zero is likely part of what is broken about it, but in general paying less for the first few minutes seldom stopped instamining from happening at four blocks a second or so, all it did was make people try to go through even more blocks per second to get to the minute the payouts would reach normal.

This thing was so utterly broken who the heck even bothered to compile or download a client for it let alone actually tried to mine it?

Almost no-one, that is why it was taking so long per block. Though I do not recall what the difficulty actually started at? Maybe it was a tiny token bit above zero like other scams that like to pretend they "tried" to do it right?

-MarkM-

250 blocks is like, 3 minutes or less, even if blocks come at only one per second, which is slow for an instamined-coin launch, that is far far far from being a "fair launch".

Unless the difficulty has been set properly?

I saw no mention of a reasonable start difficulty thus one can expect four blocks per second at lauch, a massive orphan-fest.

Will the 21 blocks average time between blocks change of difficulty be able to get it up to correct target time between blocks within only 250 blocks?

-MarkM-

But no massive ponzi-level "interest" on one's balance...

(Is NoVaCoin the only one so far that massively raised the "interest rate" to make proof of stake "more interesting" and also, probably not incidentally, more promoting of an "upper class" whose stake makes more stake extra-fast so as to make sure they are all way way up there before the unwashed masses come aboard?)

-MarkM-


EDIT: is there anyone who imagines NoVaCoin isn't going to turn down that ponzi-level interest rate once its upper class old boy's club has multipled their stake, so the unwashed who come aboard later won't get such rates? It is the whole centrally managed gang of crooks in charge of the money supply all over again...

Go ahead and dump while you can then, afterall you can easily mine some more, right?

-MarkM-