Sebut saja di amrik, IRS lagi getol-getolnya untuk bs masuk di ranah marketplace / bursa bitcoin. Tujuannya, tentu agar dapat meraup pendapatan pajak. Kabarnya, coinbase yg paling diburu, dan terkesan agak menuntut pihak coinbase, agar memberika pelaporan mendetail seluruh transaksinya secara mendetail. Kaitan dengan pajak dan tetekbengeknya tersebut, secara tidak langsung akan berurusan dengan banyak hal. Utamanya terkait dengan regulasi hukum yang berlaku di negara tersebut. Sedangkan regulasi tentang cryptocurrency ini tentu tidaklah mudah. Apalagi jika kita kontekskan di Indonesia. Namun disatu sisi, penerapan pajak memang justru cukup bermanfaat bagi negara tentunya. Kembali lagi, untuk itu haruslah ada regulasi yg jelas. Baru diruntut selanjutnya tentang perpajakan. Satu-satunya yg akan berkaitan dgn hal ini ya tidak lain adalah bursa bitcoin atau marketplace atau excange yg ada di Indonesia. Jelas krn mereka berbentuk corporate. Lantas, kita sebagai penggunanya, jika SUATU SAAT.... suatu saat lho ya... kalau mulai dikenakan pajak... mau bayar gak?  Tak menutup kemungkinan sih bahkan kita lebih dekat dengan ini contoh isu waktu itu Google , fb dan toko online mau di kenakan pajak Cuma kalau bitcoin rada susah sebab kita gak tau siapa-siapa saja yang punya bitcoin gimana cara deteksinya buat narik pajak tapi kalau perusahaan di bidang bitcoin ya boleh lah toh mereka dapat untung memang benar mungkin suatu saat nanti hal ini bisa saja terjadi (kena pajak bagi pengguna bitcoin). Tetapi seperti yang sudah dikatakan agan-agan yang lain juga kalau misalnya memang diberlakukan seperti ini harus ada regulasi/peraturan yang jelas dari pemerintah, sedangkan yang kita tau jika pemerintah saja masih belum melegalkan bitcoin di indonesia, bagaimana mau narik pajaknya? Jangankan pajak dari bitcoin, pajak dari barang lain aja masih banyak orang yang gak mau bayarnya (barangnya nampak padahal ), apalagi barang yang abstrak seperti bitcoin ini |
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Frankly, gambling with cryptocurrencies give me a good advantages. I can bet with low amount of money. I spend 0.001 - 0.005 BTC in a day. If I lost my initial balance, for sure, I will stop gambling for that day and when I doubled it, I will send the profit to my other account for later use.
Same like me, i prefer to gambling with alt coins (Doge, Clam, or Reddcoin (rarely)) rather than gambling with bitcoin. Ussually i spend around 0.01 BTC or equal with alt coins (40000 Doges or 10 Clams) everyday. Started from low base bet, 0.0001 - 0.01 Doge and 0.0000001 clam, It can handle if more red streaks comes and avoid get busted easily. |
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Martingale is not working! On 98% win chance you will lose everything in one hour. I try that, couple reds will kill any bankroll and its happen. There is not long term strategy for winning in dice, I think you will have more chances if you change it after every few hours if its possible. Try one thing, there is no guarantee that any strategy will work but with changing them I think you have more chances to last longer. Anyway 0.1 is a lot, and I think if you don`t try something you will never know! Good luck my friend!
You lose on 98% with martingale? If you were put 100x or 10000% increase after your bet lose, you should be fine (if you are brave enough to put that % on lose), or if you were playing on 2% win chance, you could win huge amount in an hour. No matter on what chance you playing, as long as you keep using martingale in dice game, you will lose. The only how to profited from martingale only stopped as soon as possible when you are get some profit. |
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Wow you're so lucky man Congrats to you, can you give me some tips or strategies to win thanks. He was very lucky in 2 days ago, turned 0.05 btc into 17.5 btc just in 2 days. If you read some of people's and OP post on above you will know how he made it. but sadly, today he was so unlucky and lost all of his winnings Its crazy that he dumped it all back. Woulda been a better bet putting it into litecoin. I am more interested in the kind of bets you had to make to return a 35000% return if I did my math correctly. That is crazy that you did not withdrawl and of it, but at least you had fun He did it in some gambling sites when he started just only with 0.05 btc. I was on there when he spammed on Justdice with 100-380 clams/each bet on 93% and 97%. Stopped for a while and he was went crazy when he deposited his money on Pocket dice, which brings he up until 17.5 btc (Did some crazy martingale bet started from 100 mbtc on 5.88x multiplier).He was withdrew all his money (17.5 btc) in his wallet, but he want to reach his another profit (aim to 100 btc), and then shit happens. Pretty fun session. Went from 0.05 to 0.2 to 0.14 and cashed out, went to Primedice. Went from 0.14 to 0.23 in like 5 minutes, cashed out. Deposited into just-dice via shape shift and spam bet on 93%, made like 0.25. https://blockchain.info/address/1BcBpd8weYM6Ue2X4KpJw8CwRYnSf74rU1Could've made an extra 0.1 but I lost it 
Kept gambling, 12.4 btc final balance. 4 in my address 8 btc coming in from PocketDice once they manually check it ---- Got to 18 btc, was a good run. Lost on Rollin.io trying to make back 3 btc. I was .5 btc away but I fucknig lost |
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I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self
Let me guess, you put 8.5 BTC (around $10000 AUD) in Primedice and you went to the 99% win rate and at the first roll you've had a RED ? Seems like an almost gauranteed way to win $100 but with sheer bad luck you can lose everything very fast. I remember one, losing my entire BTC bankroll when I got 2 red on the 99% luck and I went all in and I couldn't believe it but 3 reds in a row on 99% luck. Max win chance in primedice is 98%. I highly doubt it if he was putted that big amount on that chance. In his other thread, when he climbed from 4 to 8 btc then to 12 btc and then to 15 btc , and finally he ended with 17.5 btc he was always betting on low chance with martingale method (on pocket dice). He was used 97% win chance when he made 0.2 btc from 0.05 btc in justdice. |
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wah mantap rate bitcoin udah 11jt saja .. terakhir vakum 6 bulan yang lalu masih 7jt  sedikit nyesel vakum nih hahaha kemarin pada tanggal 5 januari sempat nyentuh hampir 17jt gan, sayangnya setelah itu harga btc turun drastis sampai ke 9jt terus naik lagi ke 13jt dan sekarang stabil di angka 11jtaan. Kalau selama dalam 6 bulan agan belum ada jual btcnya, mungkin jual diharga sekarang sudah bisa untung lumayan, mengingat dulu agan dapat btc di harga 7jt,dan sekarang sudah 11jt |
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I have an experience ini cloudmining and it is a bad experience, just go away from cloud mining, because you Will lost your money or your Investment , trust me
Yes, it was happened to me before. I was invested some of my money in cloudmining site, and i ended got scammed by them (LTCgear). I was almost got scammed too when i invested in script.cc, fortunate i withdrew my money before it scammed me. From that both examples, i don't want invest my money again in any cloudmining sites. |
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sorry to hear that. Hope that they will proceed the payment to you. I think you can get it back if you are good in gambling. Try to use the same old strategy. Maybe you will become the richest person here someday. You can chat with me if you still feel sad about your money
What proceed the payment again? He already lost it all (Still no idea where is he lost it). He was in lucky strike when he won that amount, i don't think he can make it again for second chance. What will you do when he chat with you about his lost? Calm down OP, you were did a awesome job with your 0.05 btc, then you also rained some of your winnings on here. Great job! |
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Bener2 males liatnya rata2 signature campaign managernya yahoo paling banyak, mana kena banned listnya si yahoo pula. Padahal post ane gak ngespam sama post 100 kata lebih rata2. Banyak yang pake banned listnya Lutpin sama yahoo buat jadi patokan, jadi sekarang susah banget diterima di signcamp. Yahoo sih yang paling ngeselin,
Kok bisa diblacklist gan? Kemarin memangnya apa yang agan lakukan sampai diblacklist? Ane lihat postingan agab juga cukup panjang. Masalahnya kalau sudah masuk ke blacklist itu, hampir semua campaign manager pake list itu sekarang Di satu sisi, forum ingin mengalami perubahan kualitas posting Di satu sisi , banyak orang yang ingin mendapat sig campaign Ini adalah kompetesi yang tidak mudah ( seperti dunia kerja ) Namun tidak mustahil untuk lepas dari ban list SMAS ( biasanya jeda 1 bulan lalu minta review ulang ) Zaman sudah berubah namun ini sebanding dengan harga bitcoin yang semakin meningkat jadi butuh perjuangan ekstra Sedikit bercerita, Pada waktu itu saya pernah mengajukan post untuk pendaftaran pada signature, dan diterima oleh manager yang diatas. Singkat cerita saya tidak aktif untuk beberapa minggu untuk jeda dikarenakan ada keperluan. Tiba tiba saya terima pesan dari manager siganture di atas, dan saya dinyatakan untuk masuk dalam blacklist SMAS. Entah kenapa saya di anggap spam atau apalah, mungkin karena tidak ada kabar? itu pun masih tidak jelas. Agan sudah coba pm atau tanya dia gak kenapa dimasukan dalam blacklist? kalau sebelumnya agan ada beritau dia kalau agan lagi sibuk, misalnya sibuk kerja, mungkin bisa ditoleransi. Coba saja ngomong baik-baik mungkin saja bisa dikeluarkan dari list. Saya masuk dalam SMAS juga hanya karena gak aktif selama beberapa minggu kemarin |
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sorry...but all 17.5BTC busted!?
sad to hear that...better just play half your winnings back, even if you lost, won't back to 0
better luck next time OP, although I think you are very lucky already from 0.05btc to 17.5btc
According his address as you can see on here https://blockchain.info/address/1BcBpd8weYM6Ue2X4KpJw8CwRYnSf74rU1 his balance is 0 BTC right now. So, yes, he lost all his winings yesterday. OP, where did you lost your money? i saw your stats in pocket dice, and your account still up 14 BTC (was up 19 BTC yesterday) |
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Hello as this is the post base on 2 years ago
But for me, Poloniex is a tier 1 exchange, as if you compare most other exchange, poloniex have great competitive edge, the margin trading feature is really good, as i have no clue if we have any other exchange which have margin trading
Bittrex yes, Yobit yes, Bitstamp yes, Kraken yes. But poloniex is what I use most often with the longest hours online per day, I am 100% sure. Bittrex and Yobit no from me, too many shit coins on there. The best are Poloniex and C-Cex as exchanger sites, i had been used both of exchange site since 2 years ago, had a little problem on poloniex, but it was already solved with fast service from them. Poloniex looks like "Premium" exchanger for me, it is just listed some great alt coins and will delisted some when the volume is too low. |
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Kalo saya si Alhamdulillah ndak pernah gan, soalnya saya itu ndak suka asal coba2 situs yang belum jelas hasilnya. Tapi setelah saya tau situs bitchcoin, saya mau mencobanya karena saya tau kalo site ini bagus dan beneran ada hasilnya seperti yang sudah temen temen saya peroleh. Mudah2n saya juga bisa mendapatkan hasil yang memuaskan di site ini.
baru dengar saya ada yang namanya bitchcoin? koin apaan tu gan? Kalau saya pribadi pernah ditipu situs cloudmining, minggu pertama dibayar, minggu kedua juga dibayar, waktu masuk minggu ketiga, udah gak paid lagi. Niatnya mau dapat pendapatan yang terus-terusan, jadi kita hanya tinggal deposit terus beli khs/ghs di situs cloudmining itu, eh ternyata malah kena scam. Dan modal yang udah dideposit gak bisa ditarik lagi. mungkin maksudnya bitcoin gan salah ngetik itu, kalo clud mining saya sering banget gan cloningan hastprofit dlu entah rugi brpa waktu itu zen miner jga ,banyak lgi haha, saya juga berpikiran begitu gan, tetapi kalau memang salah ketik seharusnya cuman typo 1 huruf atau bacaanya yang salah. Kalau ini jelas ada 2 huruf tambahan, udah begitu ada artinya lagi. Ya cuman dia yang tau apa maksud sebenarnya. Kalau saya itu LTCgear gan, saya kirain pas paid minggu 1 dan 2 itu sudah legit, lalu saya invest lagi. Nah akhirnya jadi begini, kena scam. Ada orang yang invest di LTCgear sebanyak 60juta IDR, tapi gak taulah benar atau gak, itu kata dia pas saya nanya. |
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Kalo saya si Alhamdulillah ndak pernah gan, soalnya saya itu ndak suka asal coba2 situs yang belum jelas hasilnya. Tapi setelah saya tau situs bitchcoin, saya mau mencobanya karena saya tau kalo site ini bagus dan beneran ada hasilnya seperti yang sudah temen temen saya peroleh. Mudah2n saya juga bisa mendapatkan hasil yang memuaskan di site ini.
baru dengar saya ada yang namanya bitchcoin? koin apaan tu gan? Kalau saya pribadi pernah ditipu situs cloudmining, minggu pertama dibayar, minggu kedua juga dibayar, waktu masuk minggu ketiga, udah gak paid lagi. Niatnya mau dapat pendapatan yang terus-terusan, jadi kita hanya tinggal deposit terus beli khs/ghs di situs cloudmining itu, eh ternyata malah kena scam. Dan modal yang udah dideposit gak bisa ditarik lagi. |
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wtf you did martingale on 5.88x multiplier from base bet 100 mbtc and you hit it on fourth bet (Profited 1.2 btc only for that 1 run), you are really crazy enough for this. Total of your profit "just only" in pocket dice is 19171.94 mBTC or 19.1 BTC! Man, you should stop before pocketdice go bankrupt, lol
It worked out for him this time, and I hope it keeps doing that, but we all know what is bound to happen sooner or later.
Winning big like this is the time to stop gambling for a while imo, the greed will take over very very fast.
Yes, this was happened to him when he lost 450 clams (0.45 btc) yesterday because of greed. |
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Great nice your job , can you tell me your bet ,how can be like that ? Haha Actually there is nothing special with how is he betting, he was betting with high amount on high multiplier (He always betting on high risk). If you see on Pocket dice's HR tab, you still can see some of his bets, he was betting 100 mbtc (0.1 btc) on 5.88x multiplier (under 5) and the other bets, he profited 1.1 btc from 100 mbtc on 11.8x multiplier (under 4). |
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So weird  Im not saying not probably fair, just weird. You would like to say, once you using low bet, it won, and when you using higher bet, it always lose, aren't you? That was very unlucky to you, but you can not blame bitlser because you can check it by yourself and they are provably fair. |
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I lost 1 BTC on bustabit and got annoyed so I went back to Primedice with 8 BTC AND GUESS WHAT.
I HIT MY FKN 10 BTC GOAL. I did a withdrawal but it says "manual" so I have to wait :/
Is that typo? In your next post you are saying if you tried to cash out 9.990 BTC from pocket dice. Cashed 4 btc and still waiting 5.9 BTC left. Congrats you hit your goal, and now what will you do? cashed out all or aiming for higher goal (as you said wanna trying to hit 100 btc)? |
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Tumben nih...mendekati imlek, harga bitcoin belum ada penampakan penurunan yg signifikan. Ada yg prediksi bakal turun ampe 8 jt, sepertinya tidak terjadi, kita tunggu aja sanpai minggu depan nenjelang imlek  Sebenarnya saya agak ragu kalau harga btc bakal turun ke 8 juta saat imlek. Kemarin saat menjelang natal dan tahun baru saja banyak yang berspekualsi kalau harga btc juga bakal turun, karena banyak yang jual btc untuk keperluan natal dan tahun baru. Tapi apa yang terjadi? Harga btc malah naik seperti roket saat natal dan tahun baru. Mungkin saja kejadian seperti kemarin bisa terulang lagi. |
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YOLO style best stat  so can someone explain what's martingale stat and how it works ? Martingale strategy is one of oldest strategy. When you using this strategy, once your bet lose, double your bet until your bet wins. Let's take an example like this: Let say your base bet is 0.01 btc. You start with bet 0.01 BTC, lose, 0.02 btc, lose, 0.04 btc, lose, 0.08 btc win, then start from your base bet again (0.01 BTC). If you are betting on 2x, then your profit until your bet reached 0.08 BTC is: 0.08 BTC - (0.01 + 0.02 +0.04 BTC) = 0.08 BTC - 0.07 BTC= You profited 0.01 BTC (same like your base bet) That strat seems good I should try it. Thank you Even though martingale strategy looks good, actually it is very dangerous strategy. You should ever heard before how many long streak loses happened in gambling (dice), this strategy will give you profit just only when you didn't faced long streak loses. You should be aware when you decided to try this strategy (Put small base bet as pre-roll) |
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good performance youre gambling what youre set profit in dice over 2 in multiply, or choose very low multiply in win 2x martingale isn't worth it. I do 4x alternative martingale, meaning I set the payout at 4x and bet low, low, low, low, etc. high, high, you know. Occasionally I'd cashout and leave 0.02 btc worth of clams in just-dice and spam on 93% win chance at low, low, high, low, etc. made $200 with that in a minute lol but it's risky I saw you earlier in Justdice when you betting on 33%. You were really crazy by betting with martingale method and your win chance was 33%, especially when you betting 50 clams on 33% and you won 100 clams. You were lucky because you didn't faced long red streaks (I didn't seen you betting on 24.75%, maybe i missed it) I didn't know you gambled using martin gale. You're lucky as hell man! I usually use martin gale and never really get to profit from it. I just lose everything in the end. It's nice to see someone really did profit off martin gale or some bet system. Indeed, you were luck to not face long red streaks that could have bankrupt you along the way. He was even do martingale on low win chance 27%, and now he is betting on 97% win chance with 100 clams, 140, 210, then 383 clams for few times. So sad he already lost 0.45 BTC because scary martingale http://prntscr.com/dx6tso I lost .15 btc to an exchange and then I got 0.04 btc to 0.45 and got bored so I lost it all
oh well, could've been at 1.2 btc.
Did you contacted shapeshift's support about that? |
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