Lol, after everything was wrote here, is there still people looking for cloud mining investiments?
It's very clear the cloud minings are Ponzi HYIP schemes or unprofitable "legit" investiments on long term. I understand it's very good to believe you can give $5 to someone and earn passive income FOREVER, but it's not real. Forget about it and try to find an investiment really trustful and profitable.
I do not agree. My U2cloudmining site was never a ponzi sheme. Now it works without the U2 antminer and is base on an econnomical system. But most of people do not understand and believe it is a ponzi sheme. All my "first" investors who gave me cash have been cashed boack with profit and now all works for free. People can not understand that a system called U2cloudmining can make profit for the members... You know certainly moonbitcoin ...do you believe that they take the profit from the Moon? (lol) |
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Ce qui est surtout intéressant pour moi c'est son utilisation et ses frais d'envoi.
Sans le bitcoin,je n'aurais jamais pu envoyer à des centaines de personnes des fractions de cents...(lol)
lolll Tu lollles mais c'est 100% vrai Nous sommes des centaines de milliers sans doute à envoyer des molloers de fois des fractions de cent en satoshi... AVANT...(quand j'étais jeune)(lol) c'était impossible. |
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A simple solution would be searching for those people in scam accusations. No one can be trusted anywhere online, even old and trusted people turn to scam sometimes..  The best way to have exchange is by having an escrow. But have a good one to have a fair transaction.  well the scam accusations section can't cover all of scammers over this forum and even it can the scammers will simply make a new account and start to scam again,the only best option is to escrow but be sure to deal with trusted escrow and had been proven having good service for long time be careful Scam accusation does not mean that the webmaster is guilty. I have red trust and I am honnest. |
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thanks for the boost. it is very important to boost,because it makes the U2 more funny and it helps me to held the daily 20000 satoshi profit. It will perhaps even be possible to increase the 20000 satoshi. How? Go on the booster page(left menu) and earn more...you will earn more and boost the U2 system. it is interesting to see this: here: http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/capsell.phpshareholders sell...seems logic relative the capshare price going down... here: http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/comrebuy.phpshareholders heve not much re-bought...less logic relative to the comshare price going up... But they do not sell... This shows us that shareholders have a logic behavour,but shows above all that they play the security. We can not see what is the best to do. But we can see that it was profitable to sell capshares some time ago and it was profitable to rebuy comshares some time ago... The booster system (and other possible incomes) increase the cap and com shares price up. The selling or the rebuying as well.(because the fees go in the sharepot) The free capshares and comshares after each claim decrease the cap and com share price. It is whi it is almost impossible that members earn exactly the same,because all datas are continuously changing. this is the main difference with a classic faucet... here you are the actors of the system... And you know that you are shareholder of the system. I have to do an update: Since you get free capshares and free comshares the claim base value is less. to show members the real instant profit i have to programme a page where you can see after a claim: instant profit=claim base+bonus+capshareprice+comshareprice. ...even if it is not all right because you will pay 10%selling fees for selling your cap and com shares,and we do not know at the "instant" for how much you will sell. As you can see it is interesting for me to programme the system... More interested in this than in the design.(lol) Claim base:412.55 satoshi
Selling earning:630.773856707 satoshi + 1 capshare + 1 comshare
Claiming for free earning:456.513838717 satoshi + 1 capshare + 1 comshare
Re-invest earning:630.332973684 satoshi + 1 capshare + 1 comshare
VIP bonus earning:522.13359375 satoshi + 1 capshare + 1 comshare
Destroy bonus earning:650.609512579 satoshi + 1 capshare + 1 comshare
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The best side of this faucet is that i can cashback percentage to my referrals.
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This is my advice :
if you are a beginner = 0.01 BTC
if your knowledge increased slightly better = 0.1 BTC
If you've understood everything = 1 BTC
I wont advise anybody to play with any bigger ammount then your knowledge, there is a big risk to loose your bitcoins at gambling. Start with the amount you can afford to lose
Funny... on my site you can start with "zero" shares are offered for free... then you sell when you want and then you can rebuy...mittle by little you can realy trade for free or simple withdraw. The funny part in this system is that you can never lose because you have started with "zero" How you do manage your investments project, and wich is the roi time usualy your costumers take to achieve those? You question is a little confuse for me... Maximum information is given on the different pages of the site. ROI is hard to calculate because it is market regulated and depends on the member's strategy. Roi is hard to calculate because of the changing daily cashback. You can see ROI examples for shares and vipshares from a certain date up. So you can estimate for yourself. My U2 system is UNIQUE and so it can not be compared because to compare you need at list 2 similar systems. Hard to calculate a real ROI on something which is free. Members have to estimate themself if the time invested to manage the account is worth the profit and the fun... You start for free and you make profit... Even if you trade wrong...you will never lose more then you have earned,it is why you can only earn. it's a free cash game now (it was paying at the start) and this cash game has no other purpose to generate profit and fun. So far: 12424989.11 satoshi
potential profit has been generated. And shared by the members. Nothing is promised in advance and if it is,then it is hold. The only certitude is: what you see on your account is what you will get and even perhaps more. It is why I can say that it is possible to start as a trader with "zero satoshi" Oh God, you again with your weird website. Few people will be able to understand how your web site works because you insist it should not change your site. You did not create a site to serve people, you created a site for yourself. People want to make money, this is a normal thing, which is why they are looking for honest ways to make money. What you are offering here is just like faucets. I like faucet. I claim some satoshi and play on yobit dice. I love that game. But seriously, you must change your site and you must be clear on the type of business and profit that potential investors will have. As for the answer to the topic. Better learn technical analysis and invest with more than 0.02 bitcoin. The less bitcoin you invest, the less profit you have and you risk a lot on doing the trade. I think investing less than 0.1 bitcoin have not much profit, but at least you gain experience and never be greedy. Having a 10% profit is already a lot. yes like faucets...but only if you want use it like faucets... because with my system you have the possibility to trade with... To understand something it is often need to want to understand... Many people have i believe understood (I believe because the manage well their account) I do understand the part of free to invest, since there is a faucet were we can clain, but if we wanna deposit, it wont be possible? Its wizzard you dont have a timeline for the investment roi at your project. I have stoped the possibility to invest because I was bombed with red trust and negative comments. Now all "real" investors have been paid back with profit. Now none can accuse me to steel people...(except perhaps time)(lol) People can now only re-invest and only with what they have earned. How works the cashback of members pending investment? It is market regulated. You can see it on the automatic selling page. If people believe that it is too much automaticly sold,they can reinvest or claim vipshares they are not automaticly sold. If they believe that they are not enough sold,the members can claim sellings. If you have analysed the system,you have noticed that one can sell shares direct 12 hours after the claim. On many pages you can see a member's strategy: 5 claim 84 sellings 115 re-invest 2 vip claim 1 vip destroy (vip destroy is convert a vip share in a normal share) If some members have participe over 200 times...it is i'm sure that the system is not to bad for them... My full system is not for every one...it is for people who want have fun by trading. But the system can as well be used like a simple faucet...but the profit is not the same and of course the fun then "limited" I feel a good "fun potential" with the capshares and the comshares,once enough satoshi have been generated. |
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I wouldn't recommend you joining any HYIP programs. They are all ponzis and if you do invest you have to face the moral dillema, since you are literally robbing Peter to pay Paul. You are actually taking money from other people. That's how a ponzi works.
you are right...but do not take every boddy for dump...most of HYIPers know what they do and perhaps better than you. When you play poker it is the same...you win what other ones lose By share trading it is the same...you earn what other ones lose. People always see only ponzi everywhere... And if a honnest webmaster (it's me)(lol) programmes a system where you can only earn...it is the same...you see only ponzi shemes...and after many demonstrations and proves that it is not a ponzi...you say: the design is horrible or the English is poor...(poor English + horrible design= webmaster scammer) |
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Thanks very much for the boost.
(more info on the "share booster" page)
This helps very much to dynamize the capchares and comshares.
This helps as well to held so long as possible the daily 20000 satoshi and I hope even increase it a little bit.
I have not "calculated" which strategy is the best among all the possible ones.
We have 9 different strategies and we know that the strategy should change if the market is changing.
we have:
5 claim options
2 capshare options
2 comshare options
One thing is certainly sure:the choice of the best option is capital.(I do not know if it is the right word,understand very important)
If something is not clear for you...you can talk about here.
I am in front of a dilemna:
if i pay for promoting the U2 system it can be possible that i have not enough money to pay the members.
if i pay members for promoting it is possible that my incomes go more for promotion that for the members and the game then will lose it's "spirit"
An other problem:
I have many many members who have just tested the system once.
This polutes my database for nothing...after 500 members I will have to cancel the most old inactive accounts...
So far...298 or so...
I recall that the U2 system is not a ponzi sheme and no new members are need.
But new active members helps to dynamise the system and does it more funny.
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it depends...
When i offer 20000 satoshi daily i offer 20000 satoshi daily if the bitcoin price is high or low...
in this situation the price of bitcoin does not matter.
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I offer 20000 satoshi daily with my U2 system for free...
take the best part of it...you can not lose.
You will earn passive income as well...it depends on your free shares invested.
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This is my advice :
if you are a beginner = 0.01 BTC
if your knowledge increased slightly better = 0.1 BTC
If you've understood everything = 1 BTC
I wont advise anybody to play with any bigger ammount then your knowledge, there is a big risk to loose your bitcoins at gambling. Start with the amount you can afford to lose
Funny... on my site you can start with "zero" shares are offered for free... then you sell when you want and then you can rebuy...mittle by little you can realy trade for free or simple withdraw. The funny part in this system is that you can never lose because you have started with "zero" How you do manage your investments project, and wich is the roi time usualy your costumers take to achieve those? You question is a little confuse for me... Maximum information is given on the different pages of the site. ROI is hard to calculate because it is market regulated and depends on the member's strategy. Roi is hard to calculate because of the changing daily cashback. You can see ROI examples for shares and vipshares from a certain date up. So you can estimate for yourself. My U2 system is UNIQUE and so it can not be compared because to compare you need at list 2 similar systems. Hard to calculate a real ROI on something which is free. Members have to estimate themself if the time invested to manage the account is worth the profit and the fun... You start for free and you make profit... Even if you trade wrong...you will never lose more then you have earned,it is why you can only earn. it's a free cash game now (it was paying at the start) and this cash game has no other purpose to generate profit and fun. So far: 12424989.11 satoshi
potential profit has been generated. And shared by the members. Nothing is promised in advance and if it is,then it is hold. The only certitude is: what you see on your account is what you will get and even perhaps more. It is why I can say that it is possible to start as a trader with "zero satoshi" Oh God, you again with your weird website. Few people will be able to understand how your web site works because you insist it should not change your site. You did not create a site to serve people, you created a site for yourself. People want to make money, this is a normal thing, which is why they are looking for honest ways to make money. What you are offering here is just like faucets. I like faucet. I claim some satoshi and play on yobit dice. I love that game. But seriously, you must change your site and you must be clear on the type of business and profit that potential investors will have. As for the answer to the topic. Better learn technical analysis and invest with more than 0.02 bitcoin. The less bitcoin you invest, the less profit you have and you risk a lot on doing the trade. I think investing less than 0.1 bitcoin have not much profit, but at least you gain experience and never be greedy. Having a 10% profit is already a lot. yes like faucets...but only if you want use it like faucets... because with my system you have the possibility to trade with... To understand something it is often need to want to understand... Many people have i believe understood (I believe because the manage well their account) |
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Thanks for the payout!
The current design works and it is not too confusing, I am fine with that.
Thanks. I agree that the site's design can a little be confuse at the start for a new member. But you have not too much advertising (we have not to forget that the advertising pay the members.) Once you have assimilated the left menu,I believe it is easy to manage the system... It's member's job to manage the system... The site does not decide for members. The site does just say how it is and how it was... |
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This is my advice :
if you are a beginner = 0.01 BTC
if your knowledge increased slightly better = 0.1 BTC
If you've understood everything = 1 BTC
I wont advise anybody to play with any bigger ammount then your knowledge, there is a big risk to loose your bitcoins at gambling. Start with the amount you can afford to lose
Funny... on my site you can start with "zero" shares are offered for free... then you sell when you want and then you can rebuy...mittle by little you can realy trade for free or simple withdraw. The funny part in this system is that you can never lose because you have started with "zero" How you do manage your investments project, and wich is the roi time usualy your costumers take to achieve those? You question is a little confuse for me... Maximum information is given on the different pages of the site. ROI is hard to calculate because it is market regulated and depends on the member's strategy. Roi is hard to calculate because of the changing daily cashback. You can see ROI examples for shares and vipshares from a certain date up. So you can estimate for yourself. My U2 system is UNIQUE and so it can not be compared because to compare you need at list 2 similar systems. Hard to calculate a real ROI on something which is free. Members have to estimate themself if the time invested to manage the account is worth the profit and the fun... You start for free and you make profit... Even if you trade wrong...you will never lose more then you have earned,it is why you can only earn. it's a free cash game now (it was paying at the start) and this cash game has no other purpose to generate profit and fun. So far: 12424989.11 satoshi
potential profit has been generated. And shared by the members. Nothing is promised in advance and if it is,then it is hold. The only certitude is: what you see on your account is what you will get and even perhaps more. It is why I can say that it is possible to start as a trader with "zero satoshi" |
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I have voted for "other"
The best source is:
1)...a free source
2)...a funny source
3)...an unrisky source
This does not exist will you answer?
But:
I have programmed such a source...and it is working perfectly since over 1 year.
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I propose you to invest "for free" in my U2cloudmining site.
You are sure not to lose because all is for free...so you can only earn...
if you are a little active you will earning...earning...earning...you can believe me.
I have just sent 10000 satoshi at a member who was active and now it is inactive and will certainly earn often 10000 satoshi even if he remain inactive.
Why?
Because he has invested (for free) in vipshares.
But you can chose your own free strategy among 5 possibilities.
You can as well trade (once you have some) captcha-shares and com-chares.
My site is now paying for over one year...and I believe has till nice years in front...
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All payout have been made following the payout rules...
Recall:
you can ask for an earlier payout if you get more than 10000 satoshi.
It seems that some members claim like bots...
Like bots is a pity...
it's a pity because the members have spent time for nothing if they are "suspended" or if the claim does not count.
It's a pity,but I can not do the difference if messages are not read...if bots or real members.
If the system is under bots attack...the system risks to dry.
it is why I ask you to understand my "tricks"...
Remember...you "share" the incomes...if you share with bots...your profit will be "small".
Don't claim blind...
Check the progression of your account...
After a valide claim,your account changes,if not...something goes wrong and by priciple you have seen why on the message after your claim.
Somehow if the site design could be enhanced, it will be really great as the site now looks too messy I believe you are a little bit exagering... Often people say "horrible"...I have already seen worse. Do you realy believe this: http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.netis not acceptable? I find it very neutral...about the adds...it's not mine...it's sponsors'adds. The design is a wrong topic...you will never find every one agreeing. I have the same design for over 20 years now...(I have not the exact time in mind) I have tried other design...this has not helped my "cash games" but has not pleased me...(lol) I have already tried with flowers in the coins...pretty women...etc...finally I prefer neutrality. If people are interested in my system...neutral design is enough...I have nothing to dissimulate... My site has no vocation to be nicer than the sites of my sponsors... Honnestly...would design realy change something for you? I do not know and I believe...no. What in fine does matter? That the people take pleasure to share what I can offer. Pleasure to share with a trader strategy... |
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All payout have been made following the payout rules...
Recall:
you can ask for an earlier payout if you get more than 10000 satoshi.
It seems that some members claim like bots...
Like bots is a pity...
it's a pity because the members have spent time for nothing if they are "suspended" or if the claim does not count.
It's a pity,but I can not do the difference if messages are not read...if bots or real members.
If the system is under bots attack...the system risks to dry.
it is why I ask you to understand my "tricks"...
Remember...you "share" the incomes...if you share with bots...your profit will be "small".
Don't claim blind...
Check the progression of your account...
After a valide claim,your account changes,if not...something goes wrong and by priciple you have seen why on the message after your claim.
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this auction is closed...
the add space will be used by meself...
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it is not good and not bad...
the halving effect is in the bitcoin price before and after halving.
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as far as i know and i make invest on that site is genesis, hashnest, hashflare, eobot and all of them is the old of cloud mining that i see is still online until now and still payment. but unfortunately, i only make small deposit in last years, so for now, i only receive small amount from that cloud mining site. and my advice is, better you don't mining bitcoin because it needs big hashrate to receive the payment, maybe you can choose other altcoin when you decide to choose genesis to make invest.
And of course make investment into cloud mining service with can be ready for lost them, because as we know cloud mining service for right now is not profitable activity and mostly of cloud mining service they take the money from their members and never come back. I agree you are right... BUT...my U2cloudmining does not take something...It does only reward for free... And this is what people have difficulties to understand... People are not used to get something for free without risk. The deal is easy and simple: I offer nowadays 20000 satoshi daily...and the people who want take a part of the 20000 satoshi take... It is so and it is undiscutable because if people are not interested...the do not take. Why will some people always take? For the simple reason that if to few people take...or why not only one person,then the people will get much or if alone then even 20000 satoshi daily alone...yes alone...who will not be interested with 20000 satoshi daily ? Believe me...my free daily 20000 satoshi will not be untaken...You have certainly heard here that it is waste of time... but you can not believe for other people...My u2cloudmining system will never be a waste of time for takers because by principle takers think that it is not a waste of time. |
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