People, run this through Google. A lot of first-hand info about the massacre. There are many more bodies ledt in the Trade Union building. At lest 5 children. Mos people dis not die from fire. Nazis were given addresses of people released from police station by police. More nazis are pulled to Odessa and told to act as they see fit. Kiev considers forbidding 9th of May celebration. Lviv forbids veterens to show up with their Soviet-time war medals in the streets on the 9th of May. News are updated by the minute from internal resistance channels. |
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 Well, looks like New York Times starts to fall out of the NATO line: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/world/europe/behind-the-masks-in-ukraine-many-faces-of-rebellion.html?ref=europe&_r=0Moscow says they are Ukrainians and not part of the Russian armed forces, as the so-called green men in Crimea turned out to be.
Western officials and the Ukrainian government insist that Russians have led, organized and equipped the fighters.
A deeper look at the 12th Company — during more than a week of visiting its checkpoints, interviewing its fighters and observing them in action against a Ukrainian military advance here on Friday — shows that in its case neither portrayal captures the full story.
The rebels of the 12th Company appear to be Ukrainians but, like many in the region, have deep ties to and affinity for Russia. They are veterans of the Soviet, Ukrainian or Russian Armies, and some have families on the other side of the border. Theirs is a tangled mix of identities and loyalties. And re-print in Russian: http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/04/n_6128321.shtml
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Just relaying an interesting reader comment about the fat shooter (for the Odessa massacre item in RT): http://rt.com/news/156664-odessa-fire-radicals-shoot/Ingvar Persson 04.05.2014 18:42
-- He really looks like a CIA-man, shooting like a special agent in a movie. ---
- Other persons LOOKING LIKE HIM might be shot in the streets here and there ...
- Is he a mormon? He has modern protection against bullets and is lightly dressed as a civilian, not touched by any mud, as if he had stepped right out of a helicopter from abroad. I think he has spent weekly hours on shooting training and might even be a shooting instructor, an advisor from the U.S. |
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Yatsenjuk ordered the prosecutor general to find the "Russian trace" in the Odessa massacre: http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/04/n_6128249.shtmlAccording to Yatsenjik, the attack in Odessa was done on Russia's orders. The best way to find "the trace" is to pronounce Yatsenjuk and Biden as Russian agents. |
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Pagan, How can you support scums? Current Ukrainian government is betrayers and scum. The government is killing its own citizens. They lie that southeastern people are separatists. This is their requirements: Is it separatism?  Public Republic of Donetsk Formed in 1917. Re-created in 2014. Independence (autonomy) means: 1. All taxes remain in the republic. 2. Two official languages - medical instructions, official documents, films must be translated to Russian. The language of education is electable at school start. 3. Possibility to transmit Russian TV channels in the region. 4. Complete ban of hero-worship of Bandera, Shushevich and other nationalists, as they were criminals who killed local population. 5. Stop of persecution on political grouns. 6. Ban on sect ideology, ban on nationalist parties and groups. 7. Giving the citizens possibility of control of the monetary flow, earned by the citizens of Donbass. 8. Resume trade with Russia to revive industry and machine-building. 9. Possibility to self elect government of the region. |
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A partial list of the victims of the Odessa massacre has been released:  The cause of death is telling: 1. Birjukov Andrej, 1978 - shot 2. Brozhevskij ANdrej, 1987 - fell from upper floors 3. Buhal Victor, 1956 - fell from upper floors 4. Varenkina Anna, 1955 - suffocated by smoke 5. Egorskij Nikolaj, 1976 - shot 6. Zhul'kov Aleksandr, 1968 - shot 7. Ivanov Igor, 1987 - shot 8. Kalin Anatolij, 1976 - fell from upper floors 9. Markin Vjacheslav, 1969 (deputy of the regional council) - died in hospital from wounds 10. Mishin Sregej, 1986 - burnt to death 11. Negaturov Vadim, 1959 (Odessa poet, http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1726139/) - burnt to death 12. Nikitinko Maksim, 1982 - fell from upper floors 13. Petrov Gennadij, 1985 - shot 14. Sadovnichij Aleksander, 1954 - burnt to death
Donetsk forms the first division of the Republican Army: http://www.aif.ru/society/safety/1162013 |
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Putin: Washington behind Ukraine events all along, though flying lowhttp://rt.com/news/155732-putin-usa-behind-ukraine-crisis/“I think what is happening now shows us who really was mastering the process from the beginning. But in the beginning, the United States preferred to remain in the shadow,” Putin said, as quoted by RIA Novosti. Hahahahahaha! So USA set up Ukraine as a trap by destabilizing it, and idiot Putin completely fell for it by attempting to invade it, just as USA planned? What a moron XD And DEAR GOD, do you read any sources other than Russian propaganda bullshit? Based on all these news reports, you would think that Ukraine is on the brink of civil war, with fascists taking over the government, and everyone else freaking out and trying to escape the imminent fascist rule. While the actual news, coming from the people actually living there, is more along the lines of the people currently in power are helpless to do anything, and everyone in Ukraine is just worried about Russia invading them, and thinking they may have to fight off Russians. Rassah, sorry for a late reply, I was travelling. You misinterpret the statement by Putin. He didn't fall for it, he is reacting (or more like not reacting well enough) to the events that unfold and that were ignited by NATO/EU. NATO/EU agenda was Ukrainian economic subversion and military bases, not setting a trap for Putin. As for sources, I also read Western propaganda bullshit. I also talk to people. In Germany, I met an acquittance, who has relatives both in Ukraine and Russia. German media is also full of anti-Russian propaganda, but not to such a great degree as, say, UK. There is a large Russian minority in Germany, many of whom have relatives in Ukraine, to whom they call. And people get cognitive dissonance between what they read in Mass Media and what they hear from relatives. So German media (with the exception of Bild) try to keep things a bit more real. They do they own investigative reporting, rather then just re-printing NATO-vetted news. There is a difference between Russian propaganda and Western propaganda. Russian media have a tendency to exaggerate the significance of some events. "Making an elephant out of a fly" so to speak. Western media twist the truth, tell half-truths or present outright lies. Western media would be the ones to call white for "dull, off-beat and discoloured", while black would be depicted and "bright, vibrant and full of life". There are some in the Western media who tell the truth, like this reporter from The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/29/ukraine-fascists-oligarchs-eu-nato-expansionhttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflictYou can read the words of a Western journalist, whom you seem to trust more, so I don't need to recap the events for you. As for being scared. Yes, people are scared. Scared of the unknown, scared of what to expect from next day, scared of provocations, of not knowing who to trust. According to my acquaintance in Germany, there is also a growing frustration with Russia, with wondering why there is no help coming from the East. |
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It looks like there will be night-time exercises in Kiev after all: http://ria.ru/world/20140430/1006098813.htmlNot military, but a coop between police and state guard, practising actions on how to defend populace. I don't know. Tomorrow will tell what this is all about... One of the readers wrote: 'In Kiev when talking about people they say "populace", while about people in Donbass they say "terrorists"' Another commentator wrote that Kiev might see tonight the "night of long knives", akin to the one organised by Hitler. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives |
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Bitcoin field day: MIT freshmen to get free cryptocurrencyhttp://rt.com/usa/155948-mit-bitcoin-free-experiment/Over 4,500 undergrads will each get $100 worth of bitcoin for free once they come back to school this fall as two MIT students plan to conduct the world's largest experiment with the virtual currency.
"We decided to announce this project now to give students lead time," Dan Elitzer, founder and president of the MIT Bitcoin Club, said in the release. "We want to issue a challenge to some of the brightest technical minds of a generation: When you step on to campus this fall, all of your classmates are going to have access to bitcoin; what are you going to build to give them interesting ways to use it?" “Giving students access to cryptocurrencies is analogous to providing them with internet access at the dawn of the internet era,” said Rubin. “What I’m hoping is that infrastructure gets sufficiently built around MIT that bitcoin actually becomes a useful commodity to have,” Rubin said as cited by the Tech. “I think that MIT should be absolutely the center of the bitcoin universe. As a school that’s a leader in technology and science fields … it’s kind of a shame that we’re not already at this point,” he added. Hmm. Good that they are pushing on! In 2013, Rubin worked with three other undergraduates on a bitcoin-related project called Tidbit. That experiment, however, ran into trouble: it was subpoenaed by the New Jersey attorney general as part of a consumer fraud investigation. MIT has sent a letter to the New Jersey attorney general in support of Rubin, who is still fighting for the subpoena to be withdrawn. In fact, Rubin and Elitzer met in the fallout of the Tidbit subpoena.
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Mission uncertain: Canadian planes leave for Eastern Europe to assist NATO
Unless a NATO member is attacked by Russia (such as Latvia or Estonia), these guys are just going to sit around and watch. Putin also knows it. He knows that the NATO can't do anything against him in Ukraine, other than supporting the corrupt oligarchs such as Tymoshenko and Akhmetov. Well, NATO invaded Yugoslavia without Yugoslavia attacking or even threatening any NATO member first... |
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Ironic really that JP Morgan are both investing in and sanctioning Russia both at the same time  Hmm... that is very interesting. So the JPM is not required to withdraw from the Russian stock market, as per the newly announced sanctions? Checking the performance of the ETF (JPM Russian Securities), I can see that the value is down by almost 24% in one year. There was quite a strong drop over the past month. BUY! BUY! BUY! Though, I think a further drop might follow, so I stagger my buys, just like I currently do with bitcoins. |
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Hmm... I think this news actually belongs here.  Mission uncertain: Canadian planes leave for Eastern Europe to assist NATOhttp://rt.com/news/155924-nato-mission-eastern-europe/Six CF-18s and hundreds of Canadian Forces personnel left for Romania to help NATO forces in Eastern Europe amid uncertainty over the scope of the mission.
It is the biggest deployment of military aircraft to Romania from another NATO member since the Ukraine crisis broke out.
"There is a lot of uncertainty about what we're going to be doing over there," Lieutenant-General Yvan Blondin said at a press conference with Defense Minister Rob Nicholson in Bagotville, where the CF-18 Hornets are based. "If Russia chooses the path of de-escalation, the international community – all of us – will welcome it. If Russia does not, the world will make sure that the cost for Russia will only grow. And as President Obama reiterated earlier today, we are ready to act," Kerry said. Really? |
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