No contradiction in the free will thing. I will explain it again, although I have in the past.

There is no free will from a pure science position, since everything works by cause and effect.

God, for His own purposes has held a tiny bit of free will open in people. This little piece of free will has to do with the strength of faith that a person has in God. That's it. It doesn't have anything to do with anything that we think about in life. And even this tidbit of free will is regulated by God to some extent.

God looks at the position of free will in every person. If a change in the universe and circumstances in life is dictated by the change in any person's strength of faith in God, God goes back to the Beginning, and juggles or jiggles the way He set cause and effect into motion, so that changes happen according to the free will of each and every person that uses the speck of free will that he has to make a change. Even the free will is changed in this jiggling juggling of cause and effect... change that reaches to our time, through all the ages of history.

To the person it looks like he changed his mind, or like he decided to get out of bed on the other side this morning, or like he chose apple juice rather than the regular orange juice for breakfast. Yet the person's free will didn't have anything to do with it. All the free will did was to look at God from a slightly different standpoint, even though the person didn't realize he was looking at God. Then God went back in time to the Beginning and jiggled and juggled all of cause and effect to make things happen the way He determines, based on what He sees in the splinter of free will that we have, about believing God.

The strength of God is immense, and the control that He exerts is way farther in understanding beyond us than we are beyond the microbes.

Science is generally unwilling to recognize God, even though science has proven God. The point is that scientifically speaking, through the science proofs, we do not have free will.

People who accept God and what God says in the Bible, know that people have free will held open by God, and that God works with the free will of mankind.

Since you don't accept God, you might as well admit that you don't have free will, even though you do, because God holds it open for you. Of course, you could always accept God and start to recognize that you have free will.

That's what I and many others are here for... to let them know about God and salvation. But I might feel more sorry for them than I will for you. Why? Because you, of your own free will, scorn God and salvation. They do as well. But many of them don't have nearly the chance to change that you do.

True Christianity is the one that trusts Jesus for the salvation that God provides. The Christian who believes in Jesus salvation is saved, no matter how many mistakes he/she makes. Such a believer will attempt to follow the instructions that Jesus gives in the Bible N.T. for living a righteous life.

People who are Christian in name, and do not really believe in Jesus salvation, might be using their professed Christianity and living a good life for many other reasons... like political or financial gain.

Both kinds of Christians can be found in all the versions of the formal Christian religions.

What is a healthy lifestyle? Whatever it is, it is usually gone in less than 100 years. There are many smokers who live to a ripe old age.

A truly healthy lifestyle is one that prepares a person for the hereafter, which will be eternal.

True Christianity prepares people for Heaven, a joyful hereafter with God.

Other religions might guide people into a better lifestyle in this life.

Atheism points people to hell in the hereafter, and doesn't even have points for living a good lifestyle in this life.

I don't hate Muslims, but Islam does. That's why Muslims are trying to turn to peace. They realize that the violence in Islam is destroying them.

Forms of spirituality usually include deeper thinking, and, meditation at least in a small way. Consider placebo action. Google it.

To my way of thinking, placebo action lies not only in some sugar or starch pill given in double blind tests. Rather, it can be anything, including meditation, suggestions of doctors and friends, and in the case for believers in God, even cures from God at times.

I have seen studies that suggest that placebo action occurs in as many as one third of all health activities. The interesting thing about this is that placebo action can work both ways. If you think you are going to get healthier, you will get healthier. If you think that you are going to get sicker, you will get sicker.

Look at this interesting point. If you get a cut on your finger, and it bleeds a little, in two weeks it is healed, almost without a trace. It happens naturally. You don't have to believe it. You don't have to be spiritual about it. In other words, health problems come and go all the time in your body.

Imagine that you have a health problem. You have this lingering pain, so you finally go to the doctor. The doctor tells you that you have bad cancer, and that you are only going to live for 3 months. The doctor's words are like a placebo. What do you do? You die in 3 months.

The doctor tells someone else that he has bad cancer and will die in 3 months. But, there is a treatment that works for this kind of cancer 95% of the time. And if you get on the treatment, you will almost for certain, live. What do you do? You get on the treatment and you live. But was it the treatment? or was it the placebo action that healed you?

Personally, I don't want a doctor influencing my spiritual activity. The human body is so complex that, now that medicine has found out as much as they have, your symptoms could fit all kinds of illnesses. Doctors are continually misdiagnosing things all the time these day. I don't want their mixed up placebo-action-diagnosis messing up my life. I'll self cure, using info that I and my friends dig up on the net, where I don't have to listen to some words of gloom and doom.

Of course, the doctor could tell me my problem is nothing. But I know enough about medicine, that I don't trust that he knows what he is talking about.

No. It is real science. It is based on Newtons 3rd Law which is real science law.   

Don't feel badly that you don't understand, Fluffer. Not everyone has a mind that can understand these things. There's nothing wrong with that. You are probably very good at some other things.

The way that scientific investigation works is very exacting. Since science has proven that God exists, all one need do is check out the God that science has proven to see if their god matches the little that science has shown us about the real God.

Science has shown us that God caused the universe to come into being. If somebody says that god has only caused the earth to come into being, but not the rest of the universe, there is a conflict. The other god is a false god, because science has proven that God caused the whole thing.

Now if two people of different religions both say that their god has a ring on his spiritual pinky finger, they could be talking about the real God, or they could be talking about some false god. Why? Because nothing in science has proven one way or the other, whether or not God has a ring on His spiritual pinky finger. Maybe these people have the same God/god and simply don't know it. Or maybe their God/gods are completely different and they don't know it.

Look up what atheists say about atheism (on the Net). Then look up the definition of religion. There are categories of the definition that apply to atheism. The fact that God has been proven to exist make atheism more a religion than ever.

The science that proves God exists is when you combine cause and effect, complex universe, universal entropy. There is only one God. People have many idols that they call God.

God is certainly alien to us in many ways. God certainly is extraterrestrial, even though He has walked on earth in the form of man.

If there were only men, there wouldn't be any aliens. If there were only women, there wouldn't be any aliens. But since they both exist and interact, there are aliens all over the place.

The only possible advantage to same sex marriage is, that you wouldn't be marrying an alien.

 

That's the point of this thread. The religion of atheism is poison. Why? Because science proves that God exists.

That doesn't stop over a billion people from formally believing the religion, right?

The difference is, science proves that God exists, thereby debunking atheism. There might be little evidence outside of the Bible for the existence of Jesus, but, as CoinCube pointed out in one post, there is less evidence of Julius Caesar.

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But atheists believe atheism exists. So, they have a religion involving something that is non-existent. So, it is a religion of non-religion.

Thank you for explaining... about you lack of interpreting.

So the answer wasn't something that you could understand, eh? To clarify, if you are talking about evolution links, there aren't any. This means that there aren't any that are missing, simply because there aren't any to be missing.

This is what I have been saying all along. Since atheism is self contradictory, it doesn't really exist, and therefore certainly can't be proof for its own existence.

What's the big deal?