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3181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 10, 2015, 12:57:56 PM
As a small (but heartfelt) token of my appreciation of the recent game development, please gift 40 million moneritos to Wizard Developer P.J.

Thank you--it is wonderful to see how this game is taking shape

Smiley
3182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 10, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
So now it all makes sense. You thought ETH would go up 100x like NXT did, so you pumped XMR to sell it for ETH.
I hope everyone will remember this.

Who are you talking to? Context clues (a name, a quotation or an arrow ^) would help.
3183  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: August 10, 2015, 12:18:39 PM
This dev seems to exaggerate but there may be some validity to this?

Aaron Swartz would still be alive today if he didnt work on SecureDrop.

The United States seems political unstable and people are complaining because the government is running torture centers, doing mass surveillance, destabilizing Yemen/Syria/Libya/Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan and just being evil. Sociopaths gone wild.

There was a doctor who was involved in bio weapon testing on prisoners in Texas and was going to leak because he was upset, and then he gets shot in back of his head in his office and the other professors start getting threats and end up fleeing the state. That was a while ago. Now doctors are being raided by the FDA and then their corpse ends up in a river, with a bullet to the chest and when the body is fished out, its instantly ruled a suicide before any investigation or autopsy. Then another eight related people end up disappeared or violently murdered. Same story.

Same with film makers, people in the media. Investigative journalists. Activists.

Its like there are death squads now.

Generally, once forced disappearances or political purges begin in a country, it can take three or four years before there is widespread awareness that it is happening, even while the authorities deny it. Until then, it is NSA mass surveillance tin foil hat and suicided hunger striking gitmo prisoner tinfoil hat talk.

Those are all indications to leave the country and keep your head down.

I'd like some more details before I take the accusations seriously. Names, dates, ect... If there is a spike in doctors in Texas who "commit suicide" that should be easy to corroborate with evidence, and linking their employment history would give you interesting circumstantial evidence.  

It's like the artwork in at the Denver Int. Airport--doubtful it's coincidence that there are never any Russians in the peaceful group scenes and the bad guy is usually holding a scimitar.

Fear only works if you leave a clue for the subconscious, so killing off doctors in an obviously linkable way (at least circumstantially and for someone paying attention) should glean you more information than some doctors in Texas working on some project--at least if those in charge of the killing squads know the point of propaganda-through-death. You want to cover your tracks, but you also want to leave a (oh so subtle) calling card.  Wink
3184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 08, 2015, 01:03:11 PM
Store of value for sure.
BTC should see 10,000 in 3-5 years, max. This is just simple math. The market cap has to go up soon or it won't be useful for the wealthy looking to move money.

Is storing all transactions on a public database for all time useful for wealthy people looking to move money?

Doubt it.

If you want to replace the word "wealthy" with banks, so be it.
And don't forget there are plenty of mixers. If wealthy buy BTC NOT through exchanges, it won't matter.

I don't fully disagree with you however. Consider, if TPTB see this as a problem, they just make it illegal to dissuade people.
I don't think there is a simple answer.

Elaborate.  Grin

I think it is those estimated to be hiding upwards of 20 trillion dollars (www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/) that don't want to use public blockchains. Though I imagine some banks will realize the security risks before it becomes apparent to everyone.
3185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 08, 2015, 12:33:47 PM
Store of value for sure.
BTC should see 10,000 in 3-5 years, max. This is just simple math. The market cap has to go up soon or it won't be useful for the wealthy looking to move money.

Is storing all transactions on a public database for all time useful for wealthy people looking to move money?

Doubt it.
3186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: August 07, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
Words change all the time, but niggling over whether dash was premined or fastmined without the knowledge of the community is like arguing over if Justin Beiber is terrible or mediocre--the result is the same--history will forget the argument.

Actually, it's more like arguing whether Facebook's IPO was deliberately botched by crookery or if it was accidentally botched through incompetence. Either way, the cloud it cast over Facebook stock was enough to drive FB from ~$40 to ~$25. I remember this because I was tempted to pick up a few shares around $25.

Given how FB has performed subsequently, do you think anyone cares about its "failed IPO?"

Posted to offer a glimpse of the wide wide world outside of this here echo chamber...

We don't know what happened to Facebook, but like Beiber, we know why dash sucks and are just waiting for the world to realize it.  Wink
3187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: August 07, 2015, 07:45:16 AM
Good riddance, they are now desperately harassing fluffypony on twitter for calling their scam out: https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/627173115840364544

Calling out someone for lying is now harassing? Do you know what a premine is?

You know you've gone off the reservation when you have to put in "this is not a thread, it just sounds like one" disclaimers in your clearly threatening posts.

As if a "this is not a threat it just sounds like one" disclaimer is going to impress a judge (or probation officer).   Cheesy

What that has to do with lying about DASH having a premine?

DASH clearly had a premine because the dev mined millions of coins before releasing the software to the public, in contradiction of his earlier statements.

Coin was released, mining started. Not the other way around. Do you know what a premine is?

If that's your best argument you should sell into the ongoing collapse before you lose it all.

All this discussion started from whether DASH had a premine or not. Which it didn't (unless you're ready to redefine certain well established terms and their meanings). I'm not trying to argue anything else.

Words change all the time, but niggling over whether dash was premined or fastmined without the knowledge of the community is like arguing over if Justin Beiber is terrible or mediocre--the result is the same--history will forget the argument.

You can call the launch ninjamine, fastmine, or instamine, and I won't complain as those terms are broad enough to be considered. There are terms you can already use, so why do you insist on using a specific non-fitting term then unless it's for your agenda?

None of those words clearly describe launching -- with an extreme instamine, which makes the exact launch time rather important -- before the promised launch time. Maybe there isn't an established term for it.




How about we call it a dashmine?
3188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: August 07, 2015, 06:39:58 AM
Good riddance, they are now desperately harassing fluffypony on twitter for calling their scam out: https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/627173115840364544

Calling out someone for lying is now harassing? Do you know what a premine is?

You know you've gone off the reservation when you have to put in "this is not a thread, it just sounds like one" disclaimers in your clearly threatening posts.

As if a "this is not a threat it just sounds like one" disclaimer is going to impress a judge (or probation officer).   Cheesy

What that has to do with lying about DASH having a premine?

DASH clearly had a premine because the dev mined millions of coins before releasing the software to the public, in contradiction of his earlier statements.

Coin was released, mining started. Not the other way around. Do you know what a premine is?

If that's your best argument you should sell into the ongoing collapse before you lose it all.

All this discussion started from whether DASH had a premine or not. Which it didn't (unless you're ready to redefine certain well established terms and their meanings). I'm not trying to argue anything else.

Words change all the time, but niggling over whether dash was premined or fastmined without the knowledge of the community is like arguing over if Justin Beiber is terrible or mediocre--the result is the same--history will forget the argument.
3189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero is irrelevant but the shills and despeate are still here on: August 06, 2015, 07:30:57 AM
I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.
 
  
"I don't see the value of free speech, I have no intention of hosting a KKK rally.  I'm fine with not being able to speak freely about what I think; it will only bring more problems into my life ."
  
That's how fucking stupid you sound.

I like how you guys just keep going back to "free speech is exactly the same as muh anonymous coin"

Explain how this level of anonymity is relevant to the average person? And do keep in mind that for a long time now money has been monitored in nearly every transaction.

Again, look up and read what I wrote about bad guys. You do not want your cryptocurrency balance public anymore than you want your bank account balance public. Just because we've gotten used to the idea that money is public, doesn't mean that anyone should be comfortable with it being public.

Here's a quick mental experiment: You have the option of using one of two banks for your business. The first does not disclose any of your account information without your express permission, and the second posts your account holdings and transactions online irregardless if you are buying groceries or paying for treatment of testicular cancer. Which bank are you going to use?

Information is power and I'm not handing mine over without so much as a conversation.
3190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: August 05, 2015, 08:05:15 PM

That's exactly the point.

Corporations and presidents have plenty of critics calling them out when what they do is seen as wrong, do they not?


Yes there are, but you know what, you can't satisfy every person out there, there are always critics and different thinkers, that's the way life is...
But that's the freedom of speech, which is great!

Quote from: smooth
I don't know exactly what Bill Gates told IBM, investors, etc. Let's stick with what we do know -- about Dash -- and that's referenced in the first post here and subsequent discussion.
We can leave digging into Microsoft to the dozens or hundreds of lawyers, writers and journalists who have investigated it over the decades. Why should Dash get a pass from the same scrutiny

This is exactly my point, we don't know the future of this yet.

We certainly know dash's past even though they keep changing the name on us. And if you think institutional investors (whom dash will need to get to their moon objective) are going to look past shadiness, you need to think more clearly on the subject.

"You want me to trust your assertion that you accidentally mined 2 million coins and didn't relaunch to validate your claim of a fair launch?" says Institutional Investor.

"But it was an accident!" says Evan.

"Get out of my office." says Institutional Investor.

That's one way of looking at it and there are several others, you certainly are entitled to that.
But there are also other ways of looking at it, for one there's the matter of inventors compensation (see law discussions on this). If you claim it's fraud, some other could claim it's inventors compensation and there's nothing wrong with that one. That's the thing that kickstarts projects keeps inventor happy and motivated to develop the product and so on...
There are several inventors of software products that are rich as hell. I'm not envy of them, they certainly earned it....



That's a faulty comparison because inventors and corporations don't accidentally give themselves a huge payoff and then claim that it was fairly launched--doing that sort of thing during an IPO would land you in hot water. There seems to be a cognitive dissonance when I say that the problem is that he gave himself a payoff (accidentally) , but also claims it was a fair launch. If Evan had just given himself a payoff, but never claimed that the coin wasn't insta or fast-mined there wouldn't be a problem. At least I wouldn't have a problem with it. But as it stands, it looks like he's bating people into one perception of the coin, and then when investors find out, they either get out or play a (conscious or unconscious) game of greater fool and hope that others on the outside will rationalize it the same way they have to because they are stuck with their own (conscious or unconscious) buyer's remorse. Smooth did a public service with this thread, sorry it ruins the gameplan.

You know that investors/corporations only talk money. As long as they make the money they don't care if somebody else has some funds or any other stuff for that matter and that's the cold fact.

It's a cold rationalization. Good luck finding greater fools.  Wink
3191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: August 05, 2015, 07:24:33 PM
Same bugs encountered as BinaryFate +

- Can't login with created account

Can't login with created account and "forgot Password" doesn't work.
3192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: August 05, 2015, 07:06:21 PM

That's exactly the point.

Corporations and presidents have plenty of critics calling them out when what they do is seen as wrong, do they not?


Yes there are, but you know what, you can't satisfy every person out there, there are always critics and different thinkers, that's the way life is...
But that's the freedom of speech, which is great!

Quote from: smooth
I don't know exactly what Bill Gates told IBM, investors, etc. Let's stick with what we do know -- about Dash -- and that's referenced in the first post here and subsequent discussion.
We can leave digging into Microsoft to the dozens or hundreds of lawyers, writers and journalists who have investigated it over the decades. Why should Dash get a pass from the same scrutiny

This is exactly my point, we don't know the future of this yet.

We certainly know dash's past even though they keep changing the name on us. And if you think institutional investors (whom dash will need to get to their moon objective) are going to look past shadiness, you need to think more clearly on the subject.

"You want me to trust your assertion that you accidentally mined 2 million coins and didn't relaunch to validate your claim of a fair launch?" says Institutional Investor.

"But it was an accident!" says Evan.

"Get out of my office." says Institutional Investor.

That's one way of looking at it and there are several others, you certainly are entitled to that.
But there are also other ways of looking at it, for one there's the matter of inventors compensation (see law discussions on this). If you claim it's fraud, some other could claim it's inventors compensation and there's nothing wrong with that one. That's the thing that kickstarts projects keeps inventor happy and motivated to develop the product and so on...
There are several inventors of software products that are rich as hell. I'm not envy of them, they certainly earned it....



That's a faulty comparison because inventors and corporations don't accidentally give themselves a huge payoff and then claim that it was fairly launched--doing that sort of thing during an IPO would land you in hot water. There seems to be a cognitive dissonance when I say that the problem is that he gave himself a payoff (accidentally) , but also claims it was a fair launch. If Evan had just given himself a payoff, but never claimed that the coin wasn't insta or fast-mined there wouldn't be a problem. At least I wouldn't have a problem with it. But as it stands, it looks like he's bating people into one perception of the coin, and then when investors find out, they either get out or play a (conscious or unconscious) game of greater fool and hope that others on the outside will rationalize it the same way they have to because they are stuck with their own (conscious or unconscious) buyer's remorse. Smooth did a public service with this thread, sorry it ruins the gameplan.
3193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: August 05, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
This thread is for the Ultima technical development. Gameplay belongs to the main thread.

How do we login with are current characters?
3194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero is irrelevant but the shills and despeate are still here on: August 05, 2015, 03:37:25 PM
I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

Monero can offer complete transparency with the view key:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/628632960565166080

I also think you may want to take some time to understand why privacy should matter to us all:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/626407810998218752

Why is anonymity so important these days?

Because you don't want bad guys (mobsters, hackers, thiefs, business competitors, spying agencies, my wife, ect) to steal or extort money or information from you. Even if you are following the law, you still don't want your income public record--so uber drivers using bitcoin QR codes for tips is probably a bad idea, and the more money involved, the worse of an idea it becomes.
3195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Truly private transactions are not optional; they are essential. on: August 05, 2015, 02:52:15 PM
Truly private will never happen because they have flaws and those are pointed here https://atriark.com/blog/bitcoin-beyond-investment-financial-freedom/

bitcoin is the best way..if you want more then just use cash

You can't use cash on the internet and private transactions already exist with cryptonite coins (XMR, BBR, Aeon).
3196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: August 05, 2015, 07:03:44 AM

That's exactly the point.

Corporations and presidents have plenty of critics calling them out when what they do is seen as wrong, do they not?


Yes there are, but you know what, you can't satisfy every person out there, there are always critics and different thinkers, that's the way life is...
But that's the freedom of speech, which is great!

Quote from: smooth
I don't know exactly what Bill Gates told IBM, investors, etc. Let's stick with what we do know -- about Dash -- and that's referenced in the first post here and subsequent discussion.
We can leave digging into Microsoft to the dozens or hundreds of lawyers, writers and journalists who have investigated it over the decades. Why should Dash get a pass from the same scrutiny

This is exactly my point, we don't know the future of this yet.

We certainly know dash's past even though they keep changing the name on us. And if you think institutional investors (whom dash will need to get to their moon objective) are going to look past shadiness, you need to think more clearly on the subject.

"You want me to trust your assertion that you accidentally mined 2 million coins and didn't relaunch to validate your claim of a fair launch?" says Institutional Investor.

"But it was an accident!" says Evan.

"Get out of my office." says Institutional Investor.
3197  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: August 05, 2015, 05:57:55 AM
(Your quote is now a misquote.)

You are noisy. Filters applied.

Wish you'd stop quoting him; i applied my filters a week ago.  Grin
3198  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: August 04, 2015, 07:23:39 AM
www.freedawn.co.uk/scientia/2015/07/31/researchers-attack-the-tor-anonymity-network/
3199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: August 04, 2015, 04:44:53 AM
Hey I read and skimmed and have some questions that I hope are not mentioned so i'm less of an asshole.

1. xmr can be converted to ingame currency, but can you convert ingame currency to xmr? Perhaps in a ingame market?
I figured if you could only transfer one direction then xmr would go to developers which I think is smart, just wondering.

2. Game does not seem to be live now, right? But i keep seeing these property sell and rewards being given out. I'm not hoping to start off dirt-poor beggar but everyone has to start somewhere.

Any very I'm interested in the game, really want to check it out.

I just started yesterday. The easiest thing to do is to contact Saddambitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53193 and tell him the name, age (< 50) and sex of your character and he'll take care of registering you and give you an xmr address so you can transfer xmr into the in-game currency and provide you with a quickstart guide. I'm still maundering over if I should buy a house or a business as i'm unsure of the liabilities and benefits or what makes a property valuable--sure it's somewhere within the thread--haven't had the time to sift through it all yet.
3200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is the Price of Monero still so low? on: August 03, 2015, 02:59:12 PM
bitcoin can already be transacted anonymous

And the earth is a disc. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, yet discredit those who are at least trying to contribute to something of importance. If you think financial privacy is of no relevance, let our Bitcoin apostle speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXwVqvrkm4g&feature=youtu.be&t=17m1s

Glenn Greenwald's opinion on privacy is quite interesting as well:

http://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters

There are 2 forces who heavily do care about privacy. Those who hold power and those who have the courage and the means to attack it violently. There definately is a need for privacy, if you get it or not is your problem.

Bitcoin is already much more private than existing banking, more privacy for mainstream is bad and wont ever happen because of these reasons https://atriark.com/blog/bitcoin-beyond-investment-financial-freedom/

only in your dreams

Your dreams:




your reality:




Just because you sold your liberty for greed, doesn't mean the rest of us have to slavishly repeat the "Bitcoin's private enough" mantra. Fear will make you stupid, blind, and weak--but it will never enrich your life.



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