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3181  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can Regulate crypto currencies in present Time ? on: November 19, 2021, 12:20:34 PM
As per present time many world leaders are thinking to Regulate crypto currencies as on world wide bases and also talking for realesed own country's own Crypto currencies but How can regulated it as on worldwide base Huh

They will start at the existing exchange and maybe they could ask the details of their costumers thru the KYC you provide at them, also they could go with banks since for sure they can find many people using banks upon doing some transaction on crypto so this regulation thing is not really hard to implement by them if they impose this law towards cryptocurrency. Also I think this is more better rather than announcing it that they ban crypto currencies on their country.
3182  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: November 19, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
The whales know what they need to do with their money, and losing to get more money will not be a problem for them.
Maybe we can take their lesson for our own good so we can at least know how to manage our money and invest in gambling games.
Money will not be a problem for the whales as they still have much money to gamble and invest in the other time.
If they lose in some games, they will get a return from the other income sources so the loss of the money will not be too big compared to their profit.
Gambling is not investing as they are different concepts and you cannot compete with the whales as their budget is entirely different from ours and we need to have stop limits to avoid any major loss but they really don't care as they have deep pockets to support them even if they are addicted to gambling but we must have stop limits.They are playing for fun or trying out luck with huge bets and can make profit/lose out of it.
Yes, we all know what a whale is and the stakes are supported by large capital so how much capital is issued and how long the bet will pay off with the final result, in contrast to us who have all the limitations and considerations when betting.
and the whales have the courage to risk their money on everything because they believe in the end they will win and profit.

What more interesting on them is they have huge bankroll to roll that's why we can see more of them having some fun since they can actually do anything towards their bets since they have more money to spend and try to chase up once they are losing. I'm sure those whales will not stay on the platform or play gambling if they are not benefiting something in return.
3183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 19, 2021, 10:02:50 AM
^^ One thing about the Warriors is that you can't really count them out. When we think that they might lose against the Cavs, they come up big in the 4th, with Curry hitting those back to back 3's.

And then also put up a show on defense, just allowing the once hot Cavs to just 8 points in the 4th. You can really see what really happen in this game on the reaction from Kevin Love's face when the game is over. They let it slipped away.

And the most impressive part is that everyone contributed to a big comeback while they are making Curry take care of the points. I love to put a bet every time the warriors played, but this time I learned that live betting is also profitable especially if you bet on the Warriors when they are down.

Love to see their confidence this season knowing that they come from huge upset last season so this really show to their bandwagon fans that they are capable of huge comeback and have higher chance to win the champ this season. Although its early to tell but for sure once we see they are complete in the presence of Klay which is nearly coming back for sure they will have more additional fire power which can help them more on their run.
3184  Economy / Speculation / Re: How do you manage Bitcoin price now on: November 18, 2021, 11:58:33 PM
I will say the market has no direction now and so far we have seen a new ATH even if this is the highest Bitcoin can go for the year it's still a good profit for patient holders. To you how would you manage the price of Bitcoin now will you still risk the market or patiently wait for a new break-out on either side of the trend?

For certain things happen like this I mostly covert my bitcoins to stable coins so that the dump will not cause any huge harm unto my balances and can able to buy back again once the market stabilize then starting to recover back again. But for people who can take the risk maybe its good for them to hold still and brings some extra capital to do buy backs since this can lessen the market pressure brought by the current dump and we will got higher chances to earn again.
3185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin's Recent Drop Below $60K Is Not Worrisome, Analyst Says on: November 18, 2021, 11:07:11 PM

Was amazed today from a -Newbie- when I asked her what her heart is like now that Bitcoin has dropped she said she wants it to even drop the more she has some she want to purchase, that's how confident -Newbies- are getting right now with Bitcoin, my prediction at the end of this year 2021 is $41000 let's see how correct I can be, but I think Bitcoin would drop to that or close to that.

The negative issues that China has recently spread are natural for them to do, but they continue to have an impact on the market.  Even though we all know, their government is also the holder of Bitcoin, they play the role of regulator to raise and lower the market price.  Although this is not the only factor in the crash of the BTC price, we can use it as a reference for consideration of our choices. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/crypto-crackdown-china-put-bitcoin-072124409.html

They have many attempts made just to disrupt the growth of bitcoin and maybe this is just a simple manipulation tactics again so that they can buy at more cheaper price knowing that they are also competitive upon holding this so maybe we shouldn't easily get panic on certain circumstances since that's what they like us to feel so that we will sell our hold bitcoins. Maybe for now its better for majority to stop listening to China fuds or any obvious manipulation so that we will not influence newbie people to get afraid on them market corrections.
3186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin makes new ATH. More ATHs to come shortly. on: November 18, 2021, 01:12:45 PM
The current bitcoin price will continue to skyrocket, I'm sure the bitcoin price will not drop like in 2017-2018, at that time the price reached $19500 and in 2018 it dropped below $5000, the daily transaction volume shows that investor interest in bitcoin is very large so that the upward trend and ATH will happen frequently.
Hopefully, that will not happen and the price will not drop like in 2017-2018 because if that happens, I can not imagine what will happen to the market and it could make the market crash and not rise for some time.
With many investors interested in bitcoin, it will have a chance to sustain at the current price but we should still be careful with the flash dump that can happen anytime.
Bitcoin will have a new ATH, but we will also see many corrections in the future because the bitcoin price will fluctuate from time to time.

That will be the scenario to happen once many people will get panic plus there are fuds will add up to the fear of the people, but I doubt it will happen this days knowing bitcoin is already a well adopted crypto so for sure many will catch up this dump and we can see a pump after this correction happen. We can still say we are bullish even if the correction happen so lets think about positive and not those crazy disturbing scene come up to our minds.
3187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 18, 2021, 12:20:22 PM
I have recently seen a TikTok video of Mike Tyson sparring "practice fighting" and he looks great... just have a look at this Youtube video of him preparing for the fight ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy7s-ct-qqA 

I think Logan Paul is creaming his pants, because I predict a Knockout in the first round for him, because Mike Tyson will not want to go all the rounds to the end at his age.  Cheesy

Despite the fact that this cutting of short fragments looks really impressive at times. Reminds of the old days when Mike would sharply close the distance and destroy boxers who were much taller than him in the melee, working in the body and then in the head. I hope Paul also watched these videos and understands that in the first rounds he will just have to run from Tyson without letting him get close  Cheesy

It's true, I also really predict a great knockout that Tyson can give Logan, and although Tyson for me does not require that much training, because he is certainly on another level, he himself recognizes his potential, I remember an interview that he and Ali did. , where Tyson recognized Ali as the best of all the boxers in history, where he recognized him himself and that seems to me to be a great show of respect, I think that Logan apart from running around the ring must have a lot of respect for Tyson .


He is out on the ring and I think he never have any professional fight for a long time so he still need to train so that he will be at his best condition knowing that he is old and out of his prime. If he will be calm and let Logan be more trained than him then provably this fight will be in favor of Logan knowing that he's young and more prepared on their upcoming fight. I don't think logan will play lame here and disrespect tyson knowing he's a veteran boxer and a champion on his era.
3188  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔮 Futuur - Predict the Future! 🔮 on: November 18, 2021, 10:34:01 AM
i believe this is not run by many people so they lack their marketing team here. but the good thing here is so far no complaints with withdrawal or anything. so for those playing on this site, it means, withdrawal is not a problem til now. they have unique betting system, the reason why some are attracted to this site. however, if you are worried about the longevity of the site, just bet on short term items.
They are lacking some marketing on here and we had already observed that specially into those old users of this forum that they arent really making such some promotion or exposure here on this market which i could say that this had to be the most crucial or much needed for a website or platform to survive but of course it would also matter on the given lines or markets which arent really that much interesting since most of them are long term ones and we know that gamblers arent
really that patient when it comes on knowing their bets.

Maybe they are not earning good revenue that's why they don't have any pasted marketing ads here, and if they just rely on people discussions well maybe this could make them go down for more but I believe they have something cooking on their minds knowing that this thread is alive and there business still up and running maybe in December month we can see special promotions since this is a good month to promote something cool stuff on your site.
Possible but if you are building a business then you should had already allocated for something like this because if you do only create a website but doesnt

have any budget for marketing then that would really be a problem as a business owner yet you could already see the effects afterwards if you do
see that there are no people been playing around or do comes in.

Promotion and good bonuses is one of the things that do sparks out peoples interest.

They have running signature campaign before but they didn't sustain it and that is there wrong decision made since the other gambling site maximize their exposure after they decide to finish their campaign, but if they cannot sustain it due to unsustainable or they have limited funds well then this kind of scenario where people losing interest is kinda expected since people really find something fun or what makes them remember a certain platform which can possibly entertain them.
3189  Economy / Speculation / Re: How far can bitcoin price correction go? on: November 17, 2021, 11:59:07 PM
We can all notice the ongoing price correction of Bitcoin and the fact that price does not continue in a straight line. What do you think Bitcoin's Price could be corrected to? I mean, what do you think would be the minimum price Bitcoin gets to, before going back to $52k price again?
It is difficult to predict with certainty the price of bitcoin, but many people believe the correction will recover in the near future, the correction that occurs to bitcoin is actually not that big this month, so there is nothing to worry about excessively, the occurrence of corrections is something that often happens in the market, it is a sign that the coin has stability compared to other coins.

Bitcoin still showing good bounce back, that small corrections few days ago are slowly being recovered and now it's moving again
to reach the last time high, playing between $60K-$62K not bad after falling to below $60K.

With the current market it shows that bull dominated back the bear after that attempt, good for every traders especially for those who are shorting the market.

That small span back already provides them profits, small but assured gains.
If it is possible in the long term it will be even more profitable, but conditions like this are usually only investors who have the power to invest, while we are only able to collect bitcoins in small amounts, and even then it is not worth the profit we will get, the correction to bitcoin is actually not too dangerous, compared to the correction that occurred in altcoins, but unfortunately we can not take advantage of the condition of bitcoin to make investments.
Not too dangerous for those who do held of for long term but for those who do love to play with volatile price then this is where things do become different.

Correction could go into some certain extent and speaking with correction we could really have that crash thing on the market too which some people do see it as the end of the world

but for some its already an opportunity for them to buy cheaper coins.It is on someones own perception on how things should be done according to the situation.
If holding on for the long term is actually something that can guarantee a large profit compared to the short term, but this must also be based on the initial purchase price, if the purchase is at the highest price, then a long time will determine how many years you have to wait, the opportunity to buy At low prices, you must pay attention, if you want to make long-term investment patterns, if you play at fluctuating prices, this will be dangerous in my view.
There's no guarantee when it comes to profit with crypto investment even you do say you do stick out with bitcoin.This isnt something you could compare because even traditional investment doesnt really talk about being risk free.There's always an accompanied risk on any decisions you do make.
Corrections could go as far on those levels which we didnt really anticipate for it to haopen.Thing here is you do know on how to buyback
when it cheap and sell when it do pump.
Price corrections will always happen even if the market does not show any hints but as long as the market stays volatile, there will always be price corrections that will create price changes in the market. With bitcoin, price correction is far way better because it can make the price even reach another high price after that. But for some not reliable crypto coins, price corrections will always pull them back. As long as bitcoin continues to be bullish, even how often price correction appears, it will always recover and moves up again.
Does not show any hints and this is where we could directly say that it do happens all the time.We dont know on when it would splunge and make out some huge correction in percentage manner thats why some people do really make out securing of their profits while the price is still high or they are still on gains because they are fully aware that it could really happen unexpectedly.You would really see lots of people had already been
anticipating that it could happen from time to time and the possible dip price cant really be known.It could go as far as we dont anticipate and that what gives us some anxiety and hesitance.

This is totally true no one can actually predict on when this to happen so we don't have any idea if this will happen today or even this end quarter of the year, but we can speculate base on what majority thinks since this could add up the trend and might this could start another hype to lift the price of bitcoin. But hopefully we will not see any bad sign these month so that the recovery after the dump happen will continue.
3190  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔮 Futuur - Predict the Future! 🔮 on: November 17, 2021, 10:08:58 PM
i believe this is not run by many people so they lack their marketing team here. but the good thing here is so far no complaints with withdrawal or anything. so for those playing on this site, it means, withdrawal is not a problem til now. they have unique betting system, the reason why some are attracted to this site. however, if you are worried about the longevity of the site, just bet on short term items.
They are lacking some marketing on here and we had already observed that specially into those old users of this forum that they arent really making such some promotion or exposure here on this market which i could say that this had to be the most crucial or much needed for a website or platform to survive but of course it would also matter on the given lines or markets which arent really that much interesting since most of them are long term ones and we know that gamblers arent
really that patient when it comes on knowing their bets.

Maybe they are not earning good revenue that's why they don't have any pasted marketing ads here, and if they just rely on people discussions well maybe this could make them go down for more but I believe they have something cooking on their minds knowing that this thread is alive and there business still up and running maybe in December month we can see special promotions since this is a good month to promote something cool stuff on your site.
3191  Economy / Economics / Re: crypto for the development of local farmers...can.....? on: November 17, 2021, 12:40:29 PM
Crypto can be developed for all types of life including agriculture, in fact there have been projects that wanted to adopt agriculture to the blockchain system, but because they failed to reach the target money during the ICO the project stopped, of course we are waiting for developers to enter the farmers so they can make they are easy to market agricultural products.

Yes it can but who will implement this project unto the farmers? A certain company? Well I think this will be bad if they will enter on this scene since this could start of monopoly if they willl be integrated on Agricultural sector but if the government will handle this and create this project in benefits to the farmers then maybe we shouldn't worry about the outcome of that plan since for sure we are in safe hands. But so far the one I see if someone offer that benefits to farmers or local farmings project and ask for money are mostly scams so we should be aware of that schemes.
3192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Hacked Wallet please help - Bounty Offered on: November 17, 2021, 11:19:18 AM
Hi Everyone,
Someone just hacked my metamask wallet and took 98.9 eth or 470,000 usd. If anyone can please help in where to start to get this back it would be life changing.
 
Here is there address who they took the 4th
https://etherscan.io/address/0x9ec869191de9d514b82ecc1c1e0f227910467a38
 
Here is the etherscan of the transaction me
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb630c6373b83ac016d27af9721c97837c7d478371f2907ddc036e31c686acc43
 

Even metamask support will not help this issue since in the first place you are the one liable on your wallet and the same other says this amount should not place in that kind of wallet since this is prone of hacking so maybe next time when you have huge balance try to use trezor since its more safe than using myetherwallet. Also better move on since this is I think the best thing you need to do since there's almost impossible chance that you can recover that balances from the hacker.
3193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A positive evaluation of gambling. on: November 17, 2021, 09:53:21 AM
From self evaluation and the evaluation of a few gamblers around me, i have observed that over time due to gambling activity, some characters worthy of emulation have been unconsciously developed by some.

Some of the characters that i have observed from the life of a few core gamblers around me and myself are;

-Development of Risk taking ability; to win big in life, you must be willing to try, and gamblers have so developed their risk taking ability.

-Development of the ability to quickly let go of things and move on; Dwelling on the past and the possibility of "what could have been" is really not healthy and it can weigh you down and distract you from "what can be". Though not so easy, gamblers have developed this ability to easily look ahead from the "near win" of yesterday, to try again today.

-Positive mentality (that is always believing that everyday we gamble, it may just be our lucky day for the big win).

- Consistency/ Not quiting attitude; Always trying regardless of  previous results.

If you see yourself as a gambler, i implore you to put yourself in perspective and please share any positive trait that has been developed in your life as a result of gambling.

PS: The purpose of this discussion is not in any way to encourage you to gamble more, but a pointer to show that amidst the dark clouds, there is still a silver lining.

Yes, many people don't like to take risks.  Because of this, they are missing out on amazing opportunities. 

For example, investing in cryptocurrency. 

By gambling, you can bring new successful strategies into your life.  A person may be under constant stress due to the fact that he sees opportunities to dramatically improve his life, but is afraid of concrete actions.  Gambling can significantly reduce this stress.  The person will realize that it is not scary to act. 

Usually a person has 2 - 3 situations in his life when he can really radically improve his life.  This is a chance not to be missed.  The gambler is aware of these odds.  A person who never gambles may not even think about them.
Its not like they don't like to take the risk but they are afraid to lose everything since the only have is small amount which they try to roll out and earn little by little that's why we can see many got afraid easily on certain circumstances. But if majority of gamblers/investors has a lot of money for sure this risk discussion things will just be eaten by them since for sure they will gamble on what they think profitable to them.
3194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: November 16, 2021, 11:58:45 PM
Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?
At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.
Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

Unifying the four major belts is the common objective especially now that Canelo Alvarez and Teofimo Lopez have already achieved that fate. So if Inoue, Donaire, and Casimero should not lose a fight to achieve the same. I have high hopes that in the end Casimero and Inoue will be the ones fighting for the crown and make history for themselves to have unified the four belts but first they have to beat their opponents impressively.
When you are tending to make out some records then it would really be good on having some sort of flawless or a good history of wins which is a must if you are really tending to make out some good record or history in the sports of boxing.For now they would really be needing on settling their upcoming fights and lots had hoped
that Inoue vs Casimero would happen happen in the future but for now lets just wait on how they would be making out their decisions.

Impressive record will make you a legend and for sure you will face so many good opponents which can increase your value once you have that flawless or what you could good records in your career. But anyways many hope to see a good result on upcoming fight since many fans crazily want to see the Inoue vs Casimero fight to be done by them and we can really see on this thread that many people talk about it and how much more outside of it, so Casimero really need to knock off his opponent badly so that he will not discourage or make his fans turn off to him.
3195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Football Fan tokens and gambling on: November 16, 2021, 10:25:06 PM
I don't think the fan club token will have any actual use in the gambling industry.!!
Yeah, I haven't seen one too. It depends on the casinos if they'll like to accept fan tokens. If they see that there's a huge userbase for a fan token, they might accept it. They're just relying on the demand for such tokens.
And if a fan token is seen to be in high demand and there's a lot of fans that are into it, they're for sure going to add it as long as they can capitalize and benefit from adding it.

Correct if that token have value and also been listed on top exchange then provably the casinos will accept that but if no demand or whatsoever which can give it any value then its not good to add since its not rewarding to anyone who holds it.

The football token I know so far is this https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/footballcoin/.
3196  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if $70k was Bitcoin ATH for the year? on: November 16, 2021, 01:42:23 PM
I would be happy if $70k would be new ATH. Bitcoin almost doubled its value during this year. Even if its price continue todays fall, I would not be disappointed a lot. I would just hold and wait for a better price. Anyway, those who wanted had great chances to buy it this summer and sell it week ago. I suggest people not to panic and follow their plan and wait till the price would be suitable for them. As there definitely will new ATHs in future.

Not only you but for sure all bitcoin users and holders will be happy to see that to happen also imagine how big the noise it will get on the mainstream once this price achieve and for sure we will see more adoption plus more people will hop into the bitcoins. But hopefully we can see this to happen this year since if $70k will really broke for sure the possibilities to open up its door to $100k is so bright so lets keep the hype on to make the market continue to became more bullish.
For bitcoin we are not so worried about the hype that occurs, because bitcoin has a good level of stability and movement for now, many people are optimistic that bitcoin will reach the maximum price, although many predictions that people make have different levels of variation, but I believe bitcoin will peak until the end of the year, if the positive trend continues through the end of the year.

For long term speaking yes we can say we are not worried about it since as history says bitcoin really get a price boost each year, but if we talk about short term then maybe volatility will be our main concern since mostly at this category small time traders are here and they can't afford to hold since they don't have enough money for long term purposes that's why many got caught on single movements of the market.

I also believe that we can see the peak until this year since if we can see another ATH will reach up then chances to see more bigger picture next year is so huge.
3197  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if $70k was Bitcoin ATH for the year? on: November 16, 2021, 12:30:49 PM
I would be happy if $70k would be new ATH. Bitcoin almost doubled its value during this year. Even if its price continue todays fall, I would not be disappointed a lot. I would just hold and wait for a better price. Anyway, those who wanted had great chances to buy it this summer and sell it week ago. I suggest people not to panic and follow their plan and wait till the price would be suitable for them. As there definitely will new ATHs in future.

Not only you but for sure all bitcoin users and holders will be happy to see that to happen also imagine how big the noise it will get on the mainstream once this price achieve and for sure we will see more adoption plus more people will hop into the bitcoins. But hopefully we can see this to happen this year since if $70k will really broke for sure the possibilities to open up its door to $100k is so bright so lets keep the hype on to make the market continue to became more bullish.
3198  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: November 16, 2021, 11:20:12 AM
I am seeing how people like Desmong, Erdogan can support and defend this kind of website 1xbit?

Simple answer?


Because they are being Paid defending this site , that is what it is.. do you think if the signature campaign of 1xbit will end these accounts will still depend this scam site?

and now there is another one , don't waste your time talking to those shill accounts because they will never let you win in conversation because this is their Job to defend this scam company.



Right and they will never give a bad feedback on the casino who paid them and they try to defend it so that they can convince people that this platform is safe and also their payments thru signature campaigns will continue so maybe its good for other people who's not been a victim yet to avoid and there are other good site which they can choose to play at. Anyways will not do any further comments about this case and good luck to everyone still betting here.
3199  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: November 15, 2021, 11:33:42 PM


I agree this is a gambling business, a gambling site can pay their players for 5 years and when he stopped paying for a week to the majority of his players he will lose the reputation he build over the years, we are talking money here, we are investing our money and if we are going to lose it, we have to lose it in a fair manner, we have to deal any investment site or gambling casino based on their present status.
Yes , People are risking their Money to gamble when they are depositing hard earned money and play , but when they are being denied in withdrawing like what had happened many times in Bitvest that the Hot Wallet has been emptied then this will hurt the gambler as well as the reputation of the owner and the team behind the site.

Well they should not gamble their hard earned money since it will double the pressure they get if problem will occur since its like they lose everything if something shit happens to the casino where they deposit their hard earned money but since troubles always happen on here maybe its time for their gamblers to think twice upon depositing their money on this casino since it looks like bitvest cannot sustain their platform anymore.

And also looks like they are not moderating this thread since no representative clarifies the confusion of the people here.
3200  Economy / Economics / Re: Possible market crash in the near future? on: November 15, 2021, 12:24:01 PM
It's hard to really consider the whole market crashing because these cryptocurrencies are somewhat independent from each other I mean there's a lot of tokens and cryptocurrencies out there that have crashed or have been rugpulled but the whole market is still intact so I don't see how a total crash as you're implying in the market is going to happen in the future.

If we see bitcoin crash majority of the altcoin crash to so if this situation show up in future then provably we can see almost all of them go bloody, but that doesn't mean that we will get panic since if we look at the greater picture of it this time is the accumulation time and that what whales mostly do and we must follow it to earn decent money when bull run come again. But if we talk about total whole market collapsed and there's no one of them survive is almost impossible since we already see how cryptocurrency succeed so expect that we can see this prolong for so many years.
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