Posts on the Croatian thread from the last week.
Period: 29.01 - 04.02
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Ja moram priznati da mi je najčudnije što su napravili Merite koji su klasična valuta (imaju vrijednost, moguće ih je lako razmjenjivati, imaju ograničenu emisiju koju kontrolira „vlada“ bitcointalka), a onda pričaju kako se njima ne smije trgovati, niti se smiju kupovati ili zarađivati? Ako su stvarno zabrinuti za kvalitetu postova mogli su uposliti moderatore i dati im mogućnost da nekome skinu rank, ili mu ručno umanje broj postova. Ovi meriti su valuta, i nitko ne može spriječiti da se njima trguje, ma koliko se trudio – samo su sebi navukli više posla: sad moraju kontrolirati i tko trguje meritima, i to će otkriti u 10% slučajeva. Nije da baš kužim. Podržavam da naprave valutu i zarade na njoj – ipak je ovaj forum velika stvar koju su napravili – ali ovo je besmislica. Jedino što će se dogoditi je da će početi praviti neka bolesna "natjecanja" za merite - neki reality show - gdje će Bogovi procjenjivati da li su postovi kvalitetni i darivati mučenike koji pokušavaju zaraditi merite. Onda će oni početi drukati jedni druge kako "post nije kvalitetan", "što je ovaj dobio merit, a ja ne", i nastupit će sveopći drek.

Podsjećamo vas da je faza ICO prodaje u tijeku i da i dalje možete kupiti SOFIN tokene. Do kraja ICO prodaje ostao je još 41 dan.
Ukupni iznos prikupljenih sredstava 02.02.2018. iznosi oko 462.000 USD.

Cijene SOFIN tokena u odnosu na glavne kripto valute:

1 ETH = 6 650 SOFIN
1 BTC = 69 000 SOFIN
1 NEO = 825 SOFIN
1 NEM = 7.5 SOFIN
1 RIPPLE = 9.5 SOFIN
1 BCH = 12.400 SOFIN
1 SOFIN = 0,20 USD

Kako kupiti SOFIN tokene?
Prvo se morate prijaviti na web stranici sofin.io, i na svom nalogu ući u odjeljak "Novčanik". Sustav će Vam prikazati sve moguće načine za kupnju SOFIN tokena i detaljne upute kako to obaviti. Na raspolaganju vam je i podrška za klijente, a predstavnici razvojnog tima rado će odgovarati na sva pitanja.

Zašto kupiti SOFIN tokene?
Tokeni će biti zavedeni na burzama nakon svršetka ICO kampanje, a moći će se koristiti i unutar SOFIN platforme. Zajmoprimci će pokrivati pristojbe za zajmove upravo tim tokenima. Ako korisnik platforme posjeduje mnogo tokena, može mu se odobriti niža kamatna stopa. Takvi korisnici također mogu iskoristiti i mogućnost korištenja založnog prava, što će im povećati kreditnu ocjenu, a samim tim i poboljšati uvjete za uzimanje zajmova. Vlasnici tokena mogu postati zajmodavci na platformi i izdati do 20% zajma u SOFIN tokenima.

Ako imate neka pitanja, molimo Vas postavite ih na SOFIN grupi na chat aplikaciji Telegram: https://goo.gl/bLHkte

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I don’t believe there’s a “flaw” in this merit system. The only flaw is that people constantly refer to it as the system for “making more quality posts”. It is obvious that “quality” is not so easily defined and that you have to have a judge with his personal taste who makes decisions about what “quality” is in his own opinion. So, this system introduced “judges” in the form of “merit sources/Gods/sorcerers” or however people call them these days. They will have the right to anonymously decide what “quality” is and what is not. Common user will soon spend all their smerits because of the simple math:

They can create and give to the other common users only 197 percent (few merits up or down because of the uneven numbers) including the original number of smerits that they got in the first place (100 + 50 + 25 + 12 + 6 + 3 + 1 + few more in the best scenario), because smerits do not renew in their hands. Soon enough, the only people on this forum who can make it go further will become the “Judges”, and there will be a great demand for merits, with very limited supply.

I don’t know if that was the original intention, but what this system actually does is that it creates a classic currency, by any standard – Merits – with the “Government” (Judges) holding the total supply. It also has a value for people – money from the Signature and other campaigns. And it’s countable and easily exchangeable. So it was meant for barging and trading, right? Admins could do it in some other way if they wanted to “improve the quality of posts”: they could give themselves right to “derank” someone, give negative trust, manually lower the post count, or anything else, because they already have that kind of power. That would have the same effect as the Merit system, and put them in the power position as much as this system does.
So what is the only benefit of the Merit system comparing to, let’s say, some “Deranking power” system (in which they would also have the power to make decisions about what “quality” is in their own opinion)? Countability and exchangeability. So, talking about “the abuse of the system” because someone has traded the newly created currency, is at least cynical. You create currency, and you don’t want people to trade it? You create cookies, and you don’t want people to touch it?

Next thing that will happen, I believe, is that “Merit rich” people will begin to use their newly gained power to create some sort of seek “competitions”, sort of reality shows, in which they will watch merit-poor people bleed to death, trying to gain some merits they’re willing to toss them in the arena. People will start to work for merits, humiliate themselves, lick butts, or whatever else people are doing for any other currency.
Don’t get me wrong, I also think that the forum has lots of spam, “good sir when airdrop” posts, and that admins should take things into their own hands – but is the new currency (with a restriction to buy and sell attached???) really the best way to do that? You can make a “Merit ICO” as well then. I have only one account, this one, I’m a professor and translator in the real life, I don’t want any mercy merits (if I can’t work for them), so please don’t “merit” me, I will be offended .

Teže? Nikako, druže Razmisli samo o matematici čitave merit priče: recimo, imamo svi mi smrtnici skupa (bez Bogova koji imaju neograničeno merita za dijeliti) 100 merita za podijeliti. Nakon što podijelimo jedni drugima merite, u sljedećoj rundi stvorit ćemo time 50 merita kod nas koje možemo opet dijeliti. U trećoj rundi imat ćemo 25, u četvrtoj 12, potom 6, 3, 1 i na kraju niš. Kad potrošimo sve smerite, oni će postojati samo kod Bogova, te ćeš ih morati moliti za milost ako ti je baš stalo napredovati iz ranga u rang. Mislim da je sve ovo zapravo uvedeno kako bi se tim meritima moglo trgovati, te da Bogovi izvuku neku korist, ništa ja drugo ne vidim da se može promijeniti: hoće li Indonežani bolje spikati engleski? Samo će se početi više uvlačiti u guzicu Legendarnima kojima se meriti obnavljaju. Ne vjerujem da će ih meriti motivirati na učenje Ti će meriti biti kak nekakav porez na dohodak ili investicija: ako želiš dobivat više na signature kampanjama, moraš platiti za to