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Ah, OK. But to tempt companies to pay you for this data / node access you'll need to provide a comprehensive API or something? Otherwise Inquisitive Inc. can just run a thousand full nodes themselves to gather data. Their only. minimal cost is bandwidth. I believe there are several companies that already do this. |
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....I'm behind the current path. "PoBN" will be hard to implement, but i don't really see the harm in taking this direction. If successful SPR will be responsible for 1000 new bitcoin nodes (practically off the cuff). That's got to be worth something to both bitcoin and spreadcoin networks. I just wanted to hear "thelones" unique opinion, still waiting  What about the viability of the funding mechanism? What funding mechanism? The whitepaper wasn't clear on it. The BTC crowd aren't keen to incentivise 'their own' nodes, I don't see them paying SPR nodes for this service. |
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We want to rid ourselves of wasteful competitive mining and reward users and service providers whose activity is useful to growth and development. This must be done in a secure, auditable manner and so reliance on other chains, even BTC must be reduced, drastically. We are trying to reach out to the world so instead of complicating things we should be making them easier. While the mining solution is fairly sound , the bid based system creates a problem, new users have to figure out BTC AND BCR. This is unacceptable, luckily i had not wasted too much time on this doomed line of coding. While BTC was the start,we are trying to distinguish ourselves , falling back on reliance on BTC is absolutely out of the question. Users need to access BCR and get out directly. I have been talking to other users , new users who find our processes long and cumbersome. Even service providers , say a shop owner would have difficulty understanding all this. While we are designing something highly integrated and very complicated, we must not lose sight that to the typical user, it must be as simple as point and shoot. I want to take cues from successful products in other industries, example Apple....for all their close minded antics they have perfected the user experience (google is catching up) and quality. This means we are now going to be working twice as hard, not only to bring functionality , but to make it very appealing and very very easy to use. The reason every other coin is failing is that they become so technically efficient, that they forget this is meant to spread around the world, fro the chief tech officer of a big corp to a 6 year old paying bus fee in the depths of africa, it must be EXTREMELY SIMPLE to use BCR. So during use if you encounter an issue, or find anything you dislike , something the is slow, something that just makes the user experience suck, i am asking you to report it here:- https://github.com/bitcreditscc/bicreditsnew/issues. We will respond to it and do our utmost best to fix it and if you think you already know the solution, please be kind enough to let us know. I agree on the user experience, that is a big thing. But bid based mining is actually a sound idea, we are not relying on other chains, they are just being used as a conduit. Eventually we can divorce completely from BTC, but not immediately. Agreed. I don't see how the Satoshi quote applies to the bid system any 'more' than it applies to anything else. And transactions baked into the blockchain only become mutable in the event of an overwhelming and successful attack, apart from that I'm not sure what the heck he was on about, unless by "past" he was referring to sub-blocktime periods. |
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Bwahahaha: bool BitcreditGUI::eventFilter(QObject *obj, QEvent *event)
... now I can tell the widgets what to do, not the other way around.  |
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Your part I highlighted will filter my ip? When I start the BN and look in the Bank Network I can see my IP and Port that it is running from. SO doing what is highlighted will filter that? If so I am not for sure what the "CLI" is for.
Or doing the "mybanknodes.txt" by putting my BN address in will filter it out?
Sorry, just confused.
EDIT: Is this a way or any to hide my IP address in the BN list?
All I have done is add some code that looks for a textfile called mybanknodes.txt in your default data directory (where your wallet.dat lives) - you can put your BN BCR addresses in there, one on each line, and if they are in the banknode list in the QT client, it will highlight them for you. It's just a simple visual way of picking out your BNs, eg. if you have ten BNs but only see 9 highlighted entries as you scroll down the list, you know one of them has a problem. CLI = command line interface, ie. a *nix type terminal window. You can eg. log in to one of your BNs running on a VPS and control/monitor it that way. If you want to hide the true IP of your BN, just start it from a different IP, and have that IP in your conf file. eg. start your BN while operating via a VPN. It is only the IP that the BN is started from that is ever listed in the wallet. This is not going to save you from being tracked down by the NSA though.  Hope that helps.  |
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Bittrex wallet back in action! |
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Draft V0.2 of the white paper for comments. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oXPcN_l3vHIJq0PmhsVWCvdx45ovcJ-ifxkOPEOClZw/editAfter a commenting period, we will finish off the conclusion. A technical paper might follow in due course (not sure its needed yet) on how to deploy the Bitcoin full node incentives program. I guess that will have to wait until ServiceNode testing is started, along with a separate testnet for the Bitcoin nodes program. If you read how the incentives could be funded, you might get as excited as I am about the viability of the program. Comments will be much appreciated. Stonehedge is on holiday at the moment, so very little work will be done on the white paper now. It's basically done. Draft v.03 will also see some formatting changes and a contents page. We can then, hopefully, send it out to any Bitcoin devs interested enough and willing to comment. After that, we'll incorporate any changes before pushing out the paper and engaging the media to see what the Bitcoin community thinks. What does Spreadcoin get out of supporting the Bitcoin network? |
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Now just looking for a way to filter my ip in the BN list (I will try the VPS later) for now just want to run it from the wallet to see how it goes.
Thanks
My 'highlight any BNs in the list if found in mybanknodes.txt' thing seems to be working perfectly on linux, should work fine on Windows and Mac too as I use the internal calls for getting the default data dir. Basically just stck a mybanknodes.txt file in the same directory as your wallet, with a BN address on each line. As I mentioned before it filters for pubkey, which is invariant, not IP, which can be wrong. I suppose I could just highlight the whole row... Image tags currently no workey so http://i58.tinypic.com/2nsu9sw.pngOf course from the CLI you can just './bitcredit-cli banknode list | grep xx.xx.xx' or whatever. |
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So to set up 5 BNs on 1 VPN, I should configure ports in that way ?
1st BN , port=8877 , rpcport=8878
2nd BN, port=8876 , rpcport=8879
3rd BN, port=8875 , rpcport=8880
4th BN, port=8874 , rpcport=8881
5th BN, port=8873 , rpcport=8882
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port decreasing, rpcport increasing to make it simple, I got it right ?
I use a similar scheme and it seems to work fine. I'm no expert though, and if I run './bitcredit-cli getconnectioncount' for each daemon, the number does seem low, between 2 and 5... the BN I'm running on my home machine also only has 5 connections. Just checked and none of them are using rpc port 8878 as I didn't know it mattered, will change one on the VPS and the local one to rpc 8878 and see if that helps. |
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Same thing using Coin Control. Still takes forever.
Do you have any idea why my second BN that is up and running just shuts off after about 30-40 minutes of running?
Select less inputs. In the top left of the coin control window you can see the size in bytes of your transaction. Adding more inputs increases this. Try to keep it under 5000 bytes at a time. I think your other problems are from the use of the Create Banknode tab. All it does is generate a new address for you to send the collateral to, and gives you a suggested bitcredit.conf. It got borrowed from Crave and wasn't much actual use for them either, we haven't got around to improving it. You still need to run a separate instance of bitcreditd per BN on your VPS, or on your home box, with the appropriate bitcredit.conf file for each one. Things would be easier if start-many/banknode.conf worked but you still need separate clients running somewhere. |
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Anyone remember the name of the Bittrex guy with an account here? Their wallet is locked, apparently stuck on block 145337.
edit: PM'd bittrex-matthew.
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On a side note having all kinds of issues with the wallet (0.30.16.8final and 0.30.16.8b) when trying to send to BN address it takes forever and then I get a message that transaction amount is too large.
If I click on it while waiting because I think it did not send it freezes and I have to restart the wallet.
Have to restart the wallet about 5 or 6 times and when it finally does it resyncs to wallet from day 1.
Right now the wallet should be the main focus of this project. We should not have to redownload the block chain or add this or delete that to get it to work correct.
Consolidate your thousands of small inputs into larger lumps using coin control. You are trying to broadcast a transaction that's too big in size (bytes) - you'd have the same issue with any currency's wallet. |
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what to do? could not allocate vin for collateral address What were you doing that produced this error? |
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CroutonNodes looking rosy!  |
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HEY bitcreditscc WHY DO WE PAY BANKNODES NOW?  ? you asked why you sould pay them if they didn't have to hash anymore... but WHY AM I PAYING THEM now... what are they doing for me? i carride this network.... and wasn't compensated... you ran over my chain several hundred times, and i still helped... but you pay them out of every block why??? Because they are what gives the currency its value. |
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Block 144900
Ps: It still says in the wallet to send 250k to collateral address for create BN
Aha, thanks, I take it you mean in the popup from Banknodes > My Banknodes > Create > etc.? Had forgotten that as I've not used it myself. Will change! edit: hmmm... block 145000 been and gone, my new 50k banknodes all "started successfully" but none of them showing up in the QT or CLI list, and 250k BNs still getting piad... you sure it was 145000? Yeah I haven't changed anything and my original BN is still humming away getting paid You swine! |
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Block 144900
Ps: It still says in the wallet to send 250k to collateral address for create BN
Aha, thanks, I take it you mean in the popup from Banknodes > My Banknodes > Create > etc.? Had forgotten that as I've not used it myself. Will change! edit: hmmm... block 145000 been and gone, my new 50k banknodes all "started successfully" but none of them showing up in the QT or CLI list, and 250k BNs still getting piad... you sure it was 145000? |
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The Bitcoin core wallet is a convoluted mess, if I had a spare 6 months I'd throw the lot of it away and start from scratch. In python. That's all that's needed for a promising, high-appeal ICO When do we start? Cheers Graham Highly interesting idea...but i have no clue about python... Q...would it be worth the move? I know a way we can cut that down to maybe ~ one month Your main problem coming from C++ to python will be what to do with all your new free time, since you wont be spending it on endless bloody type conversions and pointless header files that nobody but the smarmy compiler and the pedants that wrote it care about. I've heard that transitioning effectively from C++ to python also usually requires C++ devs to be un-dropped on their head, but the optimal technique(s) for this are still being debated. |
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I suspect a lot of the segfaulting is timing related. I had endless grief trying to sort the banknode list because even though the table had been fully populated, I could see it there on screen, in the background the wallet was still doing something and when I ran the filter it crashed. Had to put a simple 'if rows>0' in there to make sure that the internals had caught up with the display to stop the filter getting executed before the rest of the thing was ready. The Bitcoin core wallet is a convoluted mess, if I had a spare 6 months I'd throw the lot of it away and start from scratch. In python. |
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How would the code distinguish and tell other nodes?
Not my department. But I would think via privkey maybe. Privkey begins/ends with an X.. node type A, with a Y... node type B - or something like that? The flags could be embedded in there somehow. |
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