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321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: March 28, 2024, 02:33:30 PM
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For gambling addicts it will certainly be very difficult to get rid of their gambling habits and there are even some of them who think that not gambling will make their day unpleasant even though when they gamble they lose in gambling, yes of course everyone who is addicted will makes them spend a lot of the money they have on gambling even though they lose a lot so they will still try to gamble again when they have money that they can use to gamble.

Yeah but the whole thing is that some people are not gambling addicts, they just like the thing.

It really means that some people are fine stopping altogether at any time and others have a hard time to do so.
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322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: March 28, 2024, 02:32:01 PM
Hi,

There are always things that we are passionate about doing, such as video games, football, basketball, and sports in general, meaning that everyone has something that excites them and makes them want to do.
Like others, I get very excited when I sit down, take my phone, and start my bets. This does not mean that I am addicted, but rather I find it more comfortable and I have more fun.

Does gambling excites you? What motivates you, winning or just the fun in it ?

In general I would say things that excite me are things that have an unknown factor in them.

That includes pretty much anything in the world, but things like meeting new people, or meeting a new way of doing things, etc.

Basically discovering new things are usually great.
323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: March 28, 2024, 02:28:28 PM
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Some people may find that a moderate amount of gambling during breaks or downtime at work does not interfere with their job performance. Some people may even discover that participating in low-stakes gambling games helps them relax and clear their minds, allowing them to return to work feeling renewed. Everyone copes with stress or boredom in different ways, and as long as the gambling behavior does not become excessive or interfere with one's duties at work, it may not be appropriate to describe such people as "crazy."
That being said, it is essential for individuals to check their gambling habits and avoid developing an addiction that could harm their job and personal life.

Yeah, I agree with the sentiment here.

If you can bet while working that means you can be using that time to do whatever else, like facebook or any other nonsense.

If that is the case, then it is all good in my mind.
324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail? on: March 28, 2024, 02:26:09 PM
Here in India, as such gambling is illegal (unless it is in the form of government approved lotteries). And a lot of times the illegal gambling dens get raided by local police (that is unless they pay the bribes on time). But the government is completely helpless when it comes to online gambling. They can't take any action, because the web servers are situated abroad, in countries where gambling is legal. Law enforcement is always a step behind in terms of technological innovations. In the end, government ends up losing valuable tax revenue, and the citizens still participate in gambling through the online loophole.

Yeah, it really depends on the actual country that you live.

It is such a different world when you go somewhere else, because you assume everyone has the same rules, but the world doesn't work like that at all.
325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Anyone +18 Play Gamble? on: March 28, 2024, 02:24:48 PM
I don’t think, experience is a factor that should be considered before letting someone gamble as I think, experience can be gotten more easily from gambling in person.
I think 18 years is the global age of maturity as that’s why it is always stated to be 18 years and above because at this age, one should be matured enough to make decisions in its own and be able to bear the consequences of their actions.
With the availability of online casinos, especially the non KYC casinos, a lot of under aged are already getting in the gambling space and I think there is nothing the casino can do about that and that’s why their is always a bold banner to warn underaged that only 18+ are expected to gamble.

Yeah, 18 years seems to be the standard go to age for anything in the world.

It is clearly an age where things are changing, and yeah I think kids are becoming adults.

I think it would be great if there were more talking groups amongst older and younger people so that they know what they are doing, but yeah, seems like a great thing assuming that happens.
326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Get one btc right away or 5 btc with a bet? on: March 28, 2024, 02:21:30 PM
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It is good to have a chance to win 5 btc in bull run but it is not possible in gambling. 1 btc bet will get 5 btc in it but no one can guarantee exact win they are predictable. If I lose then I will lose one btc which I can never recover even if I wanted to. Gambling is all about luck so it is better to hold one btc when the market is going on a bull run rather than looking for luck in gambling to find our best. It is safe option and best available from here.

Yeah, that's fair enough, but that is the most conservative view.

Of course you can make 5 BTC but that comes with a risk.

Many people seem to be happy to receive that risk, but personally I would just take the 1 BTC with less risk
327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: March 27, 2024, 10:22:58 AM
I worked in an online casino before in my country, since our platform was new at that time, our bosses gave us money on our account to try and play different games from different gaming platforms. Try the platform before it is released. And as time passed by and our platform was released, one of my co-worker still plays, but this time on different platforms. I was not sure if it's allowed but our manager just let him play since he is the one who bring lots of profit in the company. I may no longer work there but still it's a fun experience to try out and play different platforms as if you are really playing with your own money.

Yeah, I think the only way to actually make some money out of gambling is to have some kind of offset from free credits or something similar.

That way you can actually lose some money, but still end up on top because of the free credits.
328  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 27, 2024, 10:21:26 AM
We all agree with this. Chasing losses is a dangerous cycle. People who chase losses often make impulsive decisions which make them end up with even greater losses. To avoid repeating the same thing over and over again, learn how to set limits, stick to that budget and know when to stop or walk away whether you are winning or losing. Do not get tempted to chase losses, always make the right decisions to avoid impulsive gambling.

The tricky thing is that by definition, most gambler will be chasing their losses, always, after only a couple of games.

So, the reality is that gambler will need to realize that they will be paying more than what they are getting back.
329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Get one btc right away or 5 btc with a bet? on: March 27, 2024, 10:20:16 AM
But one person will flip a coin  Smiley

Yeah, but that's the thing right...

If you already have enough wealth, then sure, you might as well get the gamble and maybe get 5 BTC.

But if you don't have enough wealth, the certainty of getting 1 BTC will probably be the best bet to make.
330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is AI going to affect gambling in any way ? on: March 27, 2024, 10:18:38 AM
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Yes, I also don't want to place a bet using analysis produced by other people and it would be better when placing a bet to analyze myself about the team I am going to place a bet on, because by analyzing it yourself of course you will be able to enjoy the win or loss from the results we get. own analysis and not based on other people's analysis.
I agree with what you are trying to describe, when the chance of winning is certain of course there is little chance that the casino will pay it out.

Yeah, that's the end of it really.

Once something is a clear way of making money, the casinos will quickly change the rules or stop the bets, or change the odds, etc.

They are in control, so of course they will be reacting fast if suddenly they are losing money in a specific bet.
331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever done something crazy to bet? on: March 27, 2024, 10:16:46 AM
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Almost every person who has gambled once in their life must have experimented with that, having dreams and building skyscrapers in the air while thinking about gambling and how they can win a lot of money from it that will change their life. However, it mustn't have taken a lot of time before they realize that it is not possible and they are not going to see any success coming in their lives through gambling.

You get this realization when you get together a budget for your gambling activities and you aim to make a lot of money with that budget. You plan everything, how much you will earn each day and how you would stop after a certain point, you might even see your plan working for the first few days, but then, everything seems to fall apart and you eventually lose everything to the house.

Yeah, I think that is part of what the casinos want to create.

A reality in which you as a gambler can generate money by just being smart and gambling on the right bets at the right time.

No one else knows how to do it, but you are special Smiley
332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Get one btc right away or 5 btc with a bet? on: March 26, 2024, 01:30:09 PM
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you are one player in a million who will follow this choice.  This happens because you are already used to and understand the risk.  but many others would simply take the chance

Yeah, but that's the thing...

It doesn't matter if one person or one million do it.

The chances are just a math thing.

Say you roll a dice. It doesn't matter if a million people roll a dice, getting a one is always 1/6 chances, no matter how many people in the world are rolling a dice.
333  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 26, 2024, 01:11:58 PM
It is best you gamble when necessary not because you want to chase your loss and win back you money, many are victim of this circumstances and for me is a bad practice and this might make you not to employe your gambling skills and roles because you inhast in your decision making. What is your opinion on this?

I think it is a safe advice, but the problem is that it is as safe as saying "don't ever gamble", which is not always a great advice, even though it is for most of the time.

I think it means that everyone should think twice before spending a huge amount of money in some bet...
334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where is the fun when you lose your money? on: March 26, 2024, 01:09:59 PM
Then where is your own priority for being a gambler, are you doing such because you wanted to make money from it or you're gambling for fun and entertainment, we cant take gambling as an investment in which we expect return s from, we are to gamble with our money and have fun whether we are wining or not, we cannot expect everyone to be in this sadly expression all because they couldn't make a win firm the bet in gambling.

Personally I've only been gambling because of fun.

Of course that fun means the possibility to make more money.

But the moment that I realized the probabilities to make that money, I quickly just treated it as a rare thing to do because it felt a bit like losing money on purpose.

Still fun though.
335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: March 26, 2024, 01:08:13 PM
If you're poor you shouldn't be betting a single freaking cent/satoshi on any gambling what so ever.  It will only make things worse, in almost damn near full probability.  Here in the US we've got video poker /slot machine parlors all freaking over the place.  There is more slot machine parlors in my city than any other kind of business by far.  Not to mention in most restaurants, gas stations etc. If you visit them, the type of people that are always there...poor people.  Same as the majority of people who buy lotto tickets and scratch offs. If you're poor, invest that money in your life, in your future, not in a low odds game or chance.  When  I see people buying a scratch off I can't help but think how much better that money would be spent taking a shot on some cheap shitcoin.

I actually this is the opposite of what it should be.

A rich person doesn't need money.

A poor person needs money.

That is a fact.

So, if we start with that, then we have that a rich person most probably wouldn't be interested in gambling because they already have enough money. Keyword being enough.

Now, the poor person doesn't have enough money. That means they would be possibly be lured into gambling to get more money from nothing.
336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: March 26, 2024, 01:03:56 PM
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Thanks for agreeing with me, but I can't resist emphasizing that it's an extremely bad idea to try to improve you financial situation to pay school fees,  or for health-care procedures, or to tart a business through gambling. Online gambling is there to have fun with it, not for making money through it.

Yeah, pretty much.

There is nothing out there to make money with gambling. Maybe there are things around gambling that generate the money, but in the sense of actually gambling, the money will most probably end up with the casino.

If you have fun with it, then that's all good. You need to make sure you are actually doing something smart with your time and money,.
337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: March 26, 2024, 01:01:27 PM
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Gambling is more than numbers. The head game is key. Winning and losing are what hook people.

Many gamblers say 1% of income isnt enough. Big spenders can place huge wagers, but most cant. Needing at least 10%? Interesting things happen there. Know the games, have the correct mindset, and have the discipline to handle it all - not just the money.

Gamble for fun, not retirement. Though nice, "responsible gambling" is hard. Call it responsible to spend 20% of what you make? Thats overkill. Anyway, whatever works for you. The key is identifying the risks, setting limitations, and sticking to them. I've made some money, and its not about how much you toss in, but knowing the odds and playing intelligently.

You are absolutely right.

And that is the problem.

The system works. Casinos create this whole idea of what a "VIP" is, but in reality it really is a person that is bringing a lot of money to the casino. Most gamblers don't really realize this, but they are paying way more than what they are getting are these casinos.
338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: March 25, 2024, 07:39:23 AM
The topic subject  is funny itself!
It feels  like "Hey you why TF are you gambling  at work" Grin

I will be replying to the subject, Gambling  should not interfered with our personal lives , anyone Gambling  at work is probably doing it for two reasons
One: he's having a break which bores him  alot,
Two: he's probably  addicted negatively to gamble at work
If Gambling  is beign done while working then such person is addicted and need help to quitting  it because  getting  addicted negatively  could ruin someone  entirely


Yeah, but gambling can be a slippery slope, and someone that just gambles a bit because they are bored can end up in a situation in which they can't control their gambling anymore.

And then they start putting more and more money in there and there will be a point in which they will not have access to more funds, and they probably will lose their job at that time as well as their minds will be in another place.
339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: March 25, 2024, 07:36:44 AM
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casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

Absolutely right.

Casinos are a money making machine, and that's why they are heavily regulated, and even banned in some countries.

There is a massive amount of money flowing in, and a few drops going out in terms of cashflow.

That's why casinos can afford such amazing buildings and free drinks and food, etc.
340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why in some religion gambling is forbidden? on: March 25, 2024, 07:34:12 AM
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As you said, most religions, including Islam, forbid gambling. Respecting those beliefs is crucial. I've seen gambling ruin lives.

Imagine a responsible gambling system. Like, adults making their own decisions, not abandoning faith. Think Vegas - it's strictly regulated and entertaining for certain nights out. Wish gambling were more like that. Where folks know their limits and have pleasure sans addiction.

Obviously, we must respect beliefs. But with loads of restrictions and support for those who need it, gambling may be done well. This boosts the economy and thrills people without the drawbacks. The subject is complex, but don't you think there's a medium ground?

Religion is simply a way of living a good life.

It's a promise, a plan, a blueprint, etc, so that if you follow those rules, your life will be most probably better in the future.

It simply says things like sacrifice the present for a better future.

Gambling is present focused and it forgets about tomorrow. So, of course it will most probably make life worse in the future.

But as you say there needs to be a balance between present and future, because the future is not guaranteed
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