Hi,
I'm selling my account, tell me your offers if you have still hope, i'm out !
I've 112947 shares + 2400,33 dollars of referral.
I will give you 1 XYP and 2 doge. |
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I wish you all luck with your endeavors, I am going back to the real game and that is BTC, I hope we all can one day look back at this and wish that we did not cause the damage to all Crypto that we have done over the last few months.
This vendetta against GAW and Josh has made the whole crypto community look like a bunch of fucking amateurs. Only 6 months ago Crypto was getting excellent main stream press and was looking good. However the in fighting, scams, and crap coins have now made it look like a joke.
Asic mining has killed scrypt, it may even kill BTC, coins like Dark Coin and Black Coin will not take off due to their names.
I will not be posting here or on hash talk as all the negativity has shown me that the crypto community will keep fighting each other and keep calling all new coins or innovation a scam.
The people on this forum and others have done more harm to Crypto than good, so be proud of yourselves as you may find that you are the ones stopping crypto getting wide spread acceptance, it is only a matter of time before the Banks and Governments of the world centralize the technology and all Crypto will go down in the history books as a fad.
So pat yourself on the shoulder and say well done as you are the guy's who supposedly want to see Crypto be a success have actually made it look like a fools paradise.
You all need to rethink what your agenda is here and start thinking about the bigger picture, so step away from your key boards and start promoting Crypto instead of tearing it down.
How much did you lose from Cantor Fitzgerald? :grinning: Last edited by BitJane I don't need anyone to edit my posts, i am reasonably educated not like some of the monkeys here |
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I can't believe that 4 weeks of no payments and people are still prepared to believe that LTC Gear will pay, when will you wake up to the fact that Chris has stolen your money, has made his millions on Black Friday sales and will never be heard from again. Seriously people here call GAW a scam but then sit here trying to defend LTC gear. This really shows what is wrong with the whole Crypto community.
I have lost money on LTC gear but was lucky enough to have ROI'd so nothing really lost, people got greedy bought cheap shares and got burn't, Chris got his final payout.
Chris was probably mining and once the cheap shares came on the market seen a way to steal from us, started with the anniversary shares who knows how many of them where sold, then went in for the big kill with the black Friday / Cyber Monday sales, just look here, LTC talk, LTC Gear talk and reddit and see how many group buys there were, it is in the 100's if not 1000. Times this by 12K each time.
No one even thought about the amount of extra hashing power he would need, probably more than GAW ever needed.
Yes Chris made many millions of dollars and is now sitting somewhere laughing at us, and by the way we deserve it.
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I wish you all luck with your endeavors, I am going back to the real game and that is BTC, I hope we all can one day look back at this and wish that we did not cause the damage to all Crypto that we have done over the last few months.
This vendetta against GAW and Josh has made the whole crypto community look like a bunch of fucking amateurs. Only 6 months ago Crypto was getting excellent main stream press and was looking good. However the in fighting, scams, and crap coins have now made it look like a joke.
Asic mining has killed scrypt, it may even kill BTC, coins like Dark Coin and Black Coin will not take off due to their names.
I will not be posting here or on hash talk as all the negativity has shown me that the crypto community will keep fighting each other and keep calling all new coins or innovation a scam.
The people on this forum and others have done more harm to Crypto than good, so be proud of yourselves as you may find that you are the ones stopping crypto getting wide spread acceptance, it is only a matter of time before the Banks and Governments of the world centralize the technology and all Crypto will go down in the history books as a fad.
So pat yourself on the shoulder and say well done as you are the guy's who supposedly want to see Crypto be a success have actually made it look like a fools paradise.
You all need to rethink what your agenda is here and start thinking about the bigger picture, so step away from your key boards and start promoting Crypto instead of tearing it down.
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I say lets wait until the 16th for BTC Miami and see what Josh has to say, if Josh dancers around the issues of investors ect then the Crypto community will have it's say and Josh will have a failed business.
Just going by the trade levels now I think that Pay Coin has probably found its real price for now at the $4.00 mark. It may decline over the next few weeks just like LTC is.
The worse part of this whole argument is that we have now probably taken the whole Crypto acceptance back 12 months, at the moment anyone looking to get into Crypto would only read about shonky sites, scams and drug sales.
When I first started in Crypto the whole thing was about the technology and how this could change the way we transmit wealth now I am not sure. I do not see any Crypto becoming main stream because of all forums.
It used to be about hope and a new technology now it is about scams, we may even see 2015 as the year Crypto currency died, and it will be mentioned in the history books as a fad.
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I would suggest that if you want cheap XPY buy now, some whales and large customers have put buy walls in, I follow the money and so should U
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It is really time just to write this one off, Cloud mining has gone the same way as Hardware Manufactures, down the drain. So it is starting to look like 2015 will be the year that the smaller investor will not be mining. If you want to invest you will need to buy BTC and trade.
There are only 1 or 2 cloud sites left that I trust, the main one is Hash Nest due to be owned by Bit Main, problem is the fee is sitting at around 70% due to the drop in BTC price, to make it worse BTC difficulty looks like a 15% jump.
Hashnest is currently offering 1TH for about 0.36 BTC, or $100 at todays price of BTC, however if BTC does not rise soon they will close down as well as their TOS is very simple, if fees are more then mining revenue then your shares get cancelled after 10 days.
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I am glad to see that this thread has become civil again. The people who have purchased items from GAW have no doubt that they have been fooled, now whilst you may not like this just remember they are not all old hands, some have only been in Crypto for a matter of weeks, some of these people couldn't afford to lose their money.
It is fair enough to tear down Josh and Gaw if you want but remember if a lot of people get burned badly then they will turn their backs on this whole industry very quickley
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It's funny I was fairly active here yesterday, I was one that called out the guy's who were making threats and posting pictures of Josh's family. I understand you may feel that GAW is a scam, but to make personal threats against Josh and even worse his family went well beyond comprehension and I am glad that CCN pointed that out. I am also glad that the article was not just another GAW shrill article. I think you will either get your answers from the BTC conference or Josh will just skirt around the questions.
The Miami conference will be make or break time for Josh and GAW within crypto, if he does not show proof of investment then GAW is dead in the water, I actually would find that a shame as I have met and chatted with some good crypto community members who are not GAW shills and never will be.
I would have to say in fact there are probably only a handful of die hard GAW fans left as has been shown by the amount of long term members no longer posting and resigning as moderators.
I ask one thing and one thing only please stop the stupid threats of violence and the posting of pictures of Josh's family, as much as you might hate GAW and Josh these things are just not right.
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I like all of you have an issue with GAW, however I have a bigger issue with the threats of violence not on only Josh but his family, if this community want to be like this than you can go fuck yourself, I have PM'd Josh, Provide the relevant post so his team can track you down, only low life cunt's would threaten his family.
WAKE UP TO YOUR SELVES, ATTACK JOSH AND GAW BUT LEAVE THE THREATS ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, if they in fact ran out of floor monies within minutes, it should be easily traceable right? $100m / $20 per XPY = 5m coins. There are what, 13-14m coins in circulation? Did 1/3rd of all coins get dumped in a few minutes? Not even counting locked stake coins and prime controllers. Did 5m coins transact in a 24 hour period from 12/30/14 at 7:30 EST when PayBase launched? The blockchain doesn't lie, someone can check.
I know they didn't pay $20 for EVERY coin, but his is the minimum needed to eat up the entire floor fund, right?
There was only 1.4 million in trade, there is no 100m backing never was, this is the most elaborate scam ever. That's what I was afraid of someone saying.  Are you now telling us that you no longer believe that there was $110 million in reserves If all coins listed under the prime nodes were sold @ $2 per as was claimed the total revenue would be just under 6 million USD. If all coins including the non prime million coin addresses were sold it would be just under 14 million USD... Coins were indeed sold to investors for $2 per coin, per say. But it wasn't coins. Has some one hacked your account Good idea... Now you are making no sense, so I would suggest someone has |
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So, if they in fact ran out of floor monies within minutes, it should be easily traceable right? $100m / $20 per XPY = 5m coins. There are what, 13-14m coins in circulation? Did 1/3rd of all coins get dumped in a few minutes? Not even counting locked stake coins and prime controllers. Did 5m coins transact in a 24 hour period from 12/30/14 at 7:30 EST when PayBase launched? The blockchain doesn't lie, someone can check.
I know they didn't pay $20 for EVERY coin, but his is the minimum needed to eat up the entire floor fund, right?
There was only 1.4 million in trade, there is no 100m backing never was, this is the most elaborate scam ever. That's what I was afraid of someone saying. Are you now telling us that you no longer believe that there was $110 million in reserves If all coins listed under the prime nodes were sold @ $2 per as was claimed the total revenue would be just under 6 million USD. If all coins including the non prime million coin addresses were sold it would be just under 14 million USD... Coins were indeed sold to investors for $2 per coin, per say. But it wasn't coins. Has some one hacked your account |
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So, if they in fact ran out of floor monies within minutes, it should be easily traceable right? $100m / $20 per XPY = 5m coins. There are what, 13-14m coins in circulation? Did 1/3rd of all coins get dumped in a few minutes? Not even counting locked stake coins and prime controllers. Did 5m coins transact in a 24 hour period from 12/30/14 at 7:30 EST when PayBase launched? The blockchain doesn't lie, someone can check.
I know they didn't pay $20 for EVERY coin, but his is the minimum needed to eat up the entire floor fund, right?
There was only 1.4 million in trade, there is no 100m backing never was, this is the most elaborate scam ever. That's what I was afraid of someone saying. Are you now telling us that you no longer believe that there was $110 million in reserves I'm simply asking questions. I'm not telling you anything. I too have concerns, but even the thinnest pancake has two sides. I'm just collecting data for my own analysis. In other words maybe, maybe not.  I am afraid that I have my doubts as well, I have actually had a real Journalist contact me hear in a PM, He want's to know what my thoughts are of GAW as he knows I have been with the for a while. I have asked him to call me as I do not do skype. |
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So, if they in fact ran out of floor monies within minutes, it should be easily traceable right? $100m / $20 per XPY = 5m coins. There are what, 13-14m coins in circulation? Did 1/3rd of all coins get dumped in a few minutes? Not even counting locked stake coins and prime controllers. Did 5m coins transact in a 24 hour period from 12/30/14 at 7:30 EST when PayBase launched? The blockchain doesn't lie, someone can check.
I know they didn't pay $20 for EVERY coin, but his is the minimum needed to eat up the entire floor fund, right?
There was only 1.4 million in trade, there is no 100m backing never was, this is the most elaborate scam ever. That's what I was afraid of someone saying. Are you now telling us that you no longer believe that there was $110 million in reserves |
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So, if they in fact ran out of floor monies within minutes, it should be easily traceable right? $100m / $20 per XPY = 5m coins. There are what, 13-14m coins in circulation? Did 1/3rd of all coins get dumped in a few minutes? Not even counting locked stake coins and prime controllers. Did 5m coins transact in a 24 hour period from 12/30/14 at 7:30 EST when PayBase launched? The blockchain doesn't lie, someone can check.
I know they didn't pay $20 for EVERY coin, but his is the minimum needed to eat up the entire floor fund, right?
There was only 1.4 million in trade, there is no 100m backing never was, this is the most elaborate scam ever. |
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Unfortunately it is with deep regret that I inform you that the CEO of GAW has lied, there is no $20 floor nor was there one, they are now hiding behind the same laws that Reddit and BTC Talk stated they were breaking.
It is unfortunate that GAW was able to con a lot of people who are new to Crypto into this, this will be a big kick in the ass for Crypto all over.
If there is just one person in the US who bought Pay Coin via paycoin.com who wishes to actually take GAW to court rather than just a charge back I am sure this community plus a lot in Hash Talk and Reddit who would help fund this case. It is time now that GAW and Pay Base + all other associated entities pay for their lies.
There was no backing from large investors or else Josh would already been gone as the CEO, his sports cars were paid for by his customers. I believe the courts in the US can make major financial awards for this type of behavior, it is now the time for a US citizen to sue GAW. I would do it but I live in Australia and our Federal court may not hear the case.
I would also welcome anyone asking a Judge in America to stop GAW from selling or promoting any other service until the case is heard.
If some one is serious about this I am prepared to kick of the fund with 1 BTC, however I would like a trusted escrow to hold the funds. EDIT : May I state though that pictures of his family are still not warranted
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Well they have just admitted there will be no floor apparently now they are worried about breaking the floor, all I can say this is now shitsville, I dont care about the coin and that this is worse than the LTC Gear ponzi saga.
This must be the best con job of all time in Crypto even bigger than Mt Gox as it was kept going for so long, well this coin deserves to go down to 1 satoshi and I deserve to lose anything I have staked as I am a dickhead for thinking I should take an each way bet. I would prefer this coin to fail now.
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Well it looks like the end of the Pay Coin saga, I would suggest only worth penny's by Saturday night. No word from Josh on hash talk, the markets have hit all time lows.
I feel lucky, I was the only one it seems that got $20 a coin on pay base, I was stupid as I re bought, however got out at over $10 so an average of $15 for those ones, the others I dumped at $9.00.
I am now fully out for the premined coins however was stupid enough to fill my converted stakers.
As far as I am concerned GAW could close tomorrow and I wouldn't care.
I have a friend though that has a lot of coin and now is looking at a big missed opportunity.
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Rest
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Peace
Probably could't of said it better I think even the Die Hard GAW fans are giving up, Mods on Hashtalk are doing very little, and no large buys. |
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The funny thing is Pay Base on its own would be a good thing if all the features work, it is what Crypto needs to bring it a little more main stream, unfortunately just the wrong company bought it in, they also tried to lie to the crypto community.
I would have to say though this is more about bad management and poor timing than the lies, had of pay base launched with full features, then Pay Coin just may have settled at $20.
The poor judgement would normally mean the Board would sack the CEO however in this case Josh owns the Majority of the company.
I will say one other thing the threats I am reading hear to Josh and family are quite sickening, any person hear who thinks that is OK is just wrong.
I am OK in you wanting to destroy GAW and Josh in the business world but lets leave the threats alone.
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