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321  Other / Beginners & Help / FREE COINS! Bitcoin-Financial.com FREE COINS! on: February 28, 2013, 12:38:10 AM
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322  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: February 27, 2013, 06:45:34 PM
Newbie section is the devil isnt it lol
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Litecoin really really cheap right now? Or is it dying? on: February 27, 2013, 04:35:05 PM
I see some bets coming out of this  Cheesy
324  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin Company Valuation on: February 27, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
I am going to tell the credit card company, I consider this to be someone else's debt should work right? Lmfao
325  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ziggap Bitcoin Sales Service IPO - Early Bird pricing on: February 27, 2013, 02:07:33 PM
ZIGGAP still owes people on BTCJAM over 900 bitcoins.

Links? / OP care to comment on this?

The initial owner of ZIGGAP did take out that loan to start the company, however that loan was taken out by HIM and not by the company. The funds from this IPO are for the company, and not for him. Ergo the funds from this IPO are not going to be used to pay the loan.

So someone else started Ziggap and has now sold it - and you (new owners) didn't take on the loan?
How do we know you won't sell it again - and this time the next owners won't take on paying dividends to the shares?

Once a company has skipped on its commitments once it's hard to have confidence it won't do it again - especially when there's no record anywhere I can see of a change of ownership (i.e. for all we know the 'new' owners could be same as the 'old' ones - and the change of ownership just an excuse to default on the loan).  This really should have been explained in your OP - rather than dragged into the light by someone else later.


The same bitcoin-otc identity is being used on both the loan and in this IPO.

From BTCJAM:
Credentials
OTC: aethero
Forum: ZIGGAP

I hardly need to point out the sad history of bitcoin companies which get sold and then suffer a catastrophic failure. There is also the  action of handing over the user data to a new owner without informing the customers.

Looks like they sold all the IPO shares so it doesnt really matter but just from a few things Ive discovered here I would avoid using their site and/or investing in it. Theres too many red flags.

Nah, the company wasn't sold at all.  I got that impression from his talk of an "original owner" - as though there'd been a subsequent owner prior to the IPO.

But still amusing how he claims a loan defined as a business loan and taken out in the name of ZIGGAP was somehow a personal loan to one of the multiple individuals/team referred to in the loan description and discussion.

What seems to have happened is they tried raising funds via a loan on BTCJam, it wasn't selling out fast enough so they split it into two loans - one of which got filled.  They then abandoned trying to fill the second loan and did this IPO instead and are now trying to reclassify the loan as a personal loan.  Reclassing the loan as personal one makes little odds so long as it's paid - and with no assets declared for the company they can strip its existing wallets to repay it (which is why it's always a gamble investing in a company that doesn't produce ANY accounts whatsoever prior to IPO - you can quite easily be buying something with zero assets).

The rush to grab funds whilst giving minimal information is always a red flag to me.  Though it by no means always means scam - just means they want cash before people dig too deep or have the time (or information) to do proper math.
This was something that was brought up in the Btc-e chat room by some investors of the loan. They threw a couple coins in and seen the loan was about to close out and were promising them to other people. They then went and had the loan split in two so the first half would fund fully and then they could try to fill the 2nd half. People complained to Btcjam about it and they said it would not happen again. Deprived was right saying the loan never filled. Think it got a total of 10% before it closed out.
So who exactly is responsible for that loan?
If the company was sold why did the proceeds not go to paying off the loan?
326  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin Company Valuation on: February 27, 2013, 02:02:56 PM
Seems like there is a dispute of who is going to pay that BTCjam loan, its seems they sold there company again. They sold quickbitcoins then ziggap, it seems to be a mess of some sorts.
327  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitcoin-Financial.com on: February 27, 2013, 03:01:19 AM
Verification software installed, make sure you have your webcam focus set or it will deny it.
328  Economy / Securities / Re: MPEx & Bitcoin Stock Exchanges on: February 27, 2013, 12:10:14 AM
https://btcjam.com/listings/2053  this is one cool feature introduced by btc.co I havent seen elsewhere.

That is pretty darn cool.

Only because you're not on MPEx. Among actual traders it has been going on for over a year by now. Sucks to be irrelevant, I guess.
Says the secretary
329  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: February 26, 2013, 05:28:52 PM
There are lots of things that could cause bitcoin to explode or implode but that is with any currency.
330  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Deposit sent to wrong account, No further replies from Bitinstant on: February 26, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
search Yankee(bitinstant) on the forum message him tell him the problem. He will take care of it.
331  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin Company Valuation on: February 26, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
Yea I seen that too, It also looked like mild stock manipulation to me as well but I did not investigate it or anything. Just what I saw from a glance of the purchases.
332  Economy / Securities / Re: MPEx & Bitcoin Stock Exchanges on: February 26, 2013, 04:55:42 PM
https://btcjam.com/listings/2053  this is one cool feature introduced by btc.co I havent seen elsewhere.

That is pretty darn cool.
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Litecoin really really cheap right now? Or is it dying? on: February 26, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
I like the idea of litecoin, and I am going to support it in my business...... but. The lack of support for it has thus made it extremely hard to implement any thing in the way I have for bitcoin.
This kinda sucks cause it means I am going to have to do all the LTC transaction authorizations and stuff by hand.

334  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Easiest way to buy bitcoins with credit card. on: February 26, 2013, 03:27:37 PM
Thanks we are accepting members but not processing any transactions. You can log in and sign up for a account feel free to look around.
335  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Nominations] Bitcoin Slogan on: February 25, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
"Free Currency"
336  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: February 25, 2013, 07:38:54 PM
Just a bitcoin newbie...
Its ok we all were at one point lol. welcome
337  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [PATCH] increase block size limit on: February 25, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
Here soon blockchain.info is going to roll soo fast you can not even see the transactions.
338  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [PATCH] increase block size limit on: February 25, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
off-topic and I am sorry but I could not help myself. Why did satoshi ever stop posting visiting us?
339  Economy / Lending / Re: Seeking 188.75 loan / partnership - Very secure & Profitable on: February 24, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
You know that's actually a good idea, I can imagine if you get someone to pay the profits are great its just getting them to pay is the problem. But if you have a outlet to resell them hell, you cant beat that you can just re-bundle them and sell the rubbish off.
340  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [Coins for Sale]Bitcoin-Financial.com Need coins fast? Check here! on: February 24, 2013, 04:07:09 PM
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