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321  Economy / Economics / Re: Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two on: June 30, 2011, 12:56:16 AM
amazing.
322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in TIME magazine on: June 29, 2011, 07:09:28 PM
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After the hack, the value dove to penny, but has rebounded to $16.

this is an uninformed person.

let me fix that:

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After the hack, the value dove to penny on the one exchange, leaving all other exchanges relatively unaffected, but has since rebounded to $16 even on MtGOX.

bank-sucking idiot...
323  Economy / Economics / Re: Almost no one will become a gazillionaire by adopting bitcoin on: June 29, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
Apart from the yakuza collecting the first 1.6mill before difficulty moved up for the first time and the fact that yakuza probably never stopped mining, what amount you think early adopters hold ?

yakuza at 2.0mill                                                                                     2.000.000
1st commercial adopter at 300k                                                                   300.000
first 10 geeks at 100k each                                                                          100.000 * 10
100 poor geeks that could only afford a single card 20k each                           20.000 *  100


then there are the rest of the mortals after the boom, 60k of them average             25
                                                                                              ----------------------------------
                                                                                    total                   6.700.000


If yakuza's intentions are legit, there is only a handful of people that will make a lot of cash from being there early. Less then 100. out of 7 bill people living on earth and 1500 being billionaires in 2011. This 100 will never really make any impact no matter how high BTC price would run EVER.

huh?

yakuza???
324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent on: June 28, 2011, 06:54:26 PM
it's a bullshit article, nicely walking the line between innuendo and bias.

it ends thusly:

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What do you think?

i think they're full of shit.
325  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Enough with the elitist crap on: June 27, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
pffft.

i don't use a roofing hammer to put a picture-frame hook into wallboard.

there's no real elitism that i can see - just a certain amount of vocal practicality.

i would never recommend that a musician or graphic artist use anything but a MacOS.

likewise, i would hardly suggest anything but Windows to a serious gamer.

and - whether one cares to admit it or not - when dealing with either the security requirements of large sums of computerized money or the computational overkill of mining, i can't imagine using anything but some flavor of *nix.

and now, if you will all excuse me, i'm going to go mix up a margarita for lunch with the squirrel-cage fan in one of my reference 5870s...
326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin inflation now is 44% per year on: June 27, 2011, 07:14:19 PM
stop argueing about the definition of inflation.
a hundred years of economic theory hasnt settled on one definition. you wont either. it's obvious what kind OP meant.

How can one have a rational discussion with out defining what they are talking about?

congratulations.

you have just encapsulated 300 years of economic debate into one, easy to grasp sentence.

me - i'm from the why-don't-we-wait-and-see-what-happens school...
327  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Recommend a political book on: June 27, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
In political fiction: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein.

+1

it even has some applicability to Bitcoin.
328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2.7 million stolen in Citi hack on: June 27, 2011, 02:02:56 PM
of course, Citi gets $2.7M from the FDIC.

and then each customer has to prove that they had a loss due to that event.

place your bets... how much of the $2.7M will be disbursed to individuals vs. how much will Citi keep for themselves?
329  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Compromise To Avoid World War 3 on: June 27, 2011, 01:35:06 PM
so the upshot is to give governments the right to veto every financial transaction by every person on earth?  because if we don't they'll take offense?

and we aren't allowed cryptography which governments don't have backdoors to?

really?

you're not even wrong.
330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ALL of my bitcoins stolen (Around 60) . What the F*CK. on: June 27, 2011, 05:13:30 AM
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Forget it, Jake. it's Chinatown Windows.

sorry for your loss.
331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Watching amateur finance types flail on: June 27, 2011, 05:01:01 AM
I'm curious what attracted John's interest in bitcoin. It's interesting to see so many financial experts are watching it. I see the main difference from previous attempts at digital cash is that there is no way to stop people from using it and its at least as untraceable (and untaxable) as regular cash.

you answer your own question:

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I'm curious what attracted John's interest in bitcoin.

...thusly:

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...there is no way to stop people from using it...

he can't make any money from Bitcoin, other than as a miner or a participant.  "professional" finance types don't like exposure to <s>risk</s> reality.  they want to make money without touching, earning, or creating it.  and if one of their investments tanks, they were only advisors - not vested.

hence; naked credit default swaps.

Bitcoin isn't like that, is it?
332  Other / Off-topic / Re: Last Person to Reply Wins 1 BTC! on: June 27, 2011, 04:41:49 AM
Why?

because life's just too damn short to deal with everybody on earth who can't be bothered to read the destructions...

i'm not going to spend half the time between now and the heat death of the universe endlessly trying to re-post and recoup after everyone who posts like #30 - which makes my #29 no longer the last reply, and would force me to do that.

ah well.  i believe the OP has a point...
333  Other / Off-topic / Re: Last Person to Reply Wins 1 BTC! on: June 27, 2011, 04:17:55 AM
i retract my offer.
334  Other / Off-topic / Re: Last Person to Reply Wins 1 BTC! on: June 27, 2011, 04:06:14 AM
everybody who is thinking of replying, PM me.

nobody post - and we'll make this the last one.  i'll split the 1 BTC evenly between everyone who PMs me...   Grin
335  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's a "bleak" job today that someone from 1900 would be amazed by? on: June 27, 2011, 04:00:39 AM
anything.

think of what being a fry cook at macdonalds would look like to somebody who didn't know what electricity could really do, had never seen stainless steel or paper clothing or a computerized cash register or a printer or a drive-up anything or...
336  Economy / Economics / Re: The Fallacy of Mining Cost and Bitcoin Price on: June 27, 2011, 03:55:02 AM
The system is a chaotic multi-variable nonlinear system where all the parts are interlinked.  Please stop trying to make sense of it by inventing serial relationships that do not exist.

If you serialize it into a false string of A causes B causes C relationships, you can be absolutely positive that you will never understanding it.

^^this.
337  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitTalk.TV Survey | What's your feeling? on: June 26, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
Price will end to the upside on relatively volatile trading

...only slightly to the upside.  i'd say maybe $18-19.

and i'm probably wrong...
338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goxed - 15:30 open on: June 26, 2011, 09:39:54 PM
this is nuts.





i don't understand.

nobody does.  if they say they do they're lying or dumb.

just pick a position and hold on tight...
339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Camp BX Hacker / Compliance Security Audit on: June 26, 2011, 09:06:53 PM
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Dennis,
      We have updated the company name in the footer - Camp BX is our product name.  You can verify the registration now!

Thank you,
     Keyur

A Camp BX search does still not generate any reccords at "Department of Banking & Finance" in Georgia http://dbf.georgia.gov or at "Georgia Business Licenses Directory" http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/Georgia-Business-Licenses.htm or at the FDIC "Bank find" http://www2.fdic.gov/idasp/main_bankfind.asp.

did you try the company name?

Bulbul Investments LLC

not that i'd have much confidence in the timeliness of a gov't website...
340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Camp BX Hacker / Compliance Security Audit on: June 26, 2011, 08:57:46 PM
this looks promising.

i'd much rather have my money compliant to all the various things that money needs to be compliant with, than potentially anonymous but in the hands of amateurs.

if i want anonymity, i'll do BTC > BTC transactions over Tor.

if i want a bank or an exchange, i'll go with staid and boring and all tied up with legal niceties.

i'm looking forward to your launch.  i'll be there.
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