There are many people taking out loans on places like btcjam for this scam
The only scam is in your head and you're spamming about it so much that it must be stuck really deep. So go dump your Bitcoin for paycoin the frightening thing is.. there are lots of people already doing this. i despair for these kids and their future. I really hope it's just idiots who wouldn't have the sense to hodl Bitcoin, too greedy and impatient. So only those who "hodl" are the worthy ones? Bitcoin is worth 30% of what it was a year ago. How's that hodlin workin out for ya? Doing well thanks, they're nice and safe not with a scammer or a shitcoin
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There are many people taking out loans on places like btcjam for this scam
The only scam is in your head and you're spamming about it so much that it must be stuck really deep. So go dump your Bitcoin for paycoin the frightening thing is.. there are lots of people already doing this. i despair for these kids and their future. I really hope it's just idiots who wouldn't have the sense to hodl Bitcoin, too greedy and impatient.
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There are many people taking out loans on places like btcjam for this scam
The only scam is in your head and you're spamming about it so much that it must be stuck really deep. So go dump your Bitcoin for paycoin, guaranteed 20x profit? Ico
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Be out of State. WTF!!!! I own no site here or where i listed paypal site. Tomatocage!!!!Stop wrong accusation now!!!
Give me the bitcoin to escrow for him or you're a scammer. 1MKq48SNZWwhNzt7YqPj1rsTaCrHBprRGv
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There are many people taking out loans on places like btcjam for this scam
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if they really scamed then money will not be in their account anymore. If you chargeback their act will be in negative balance but your money will not be returned. reason, is they might have transferred funds to other act or used it. so no reason or sense in charging back. i believe in talking them up for return of your funds. I am into this now and will make sure they return it else they will face the law.
Pardon me, but you could be the guy himself. You're a new account and stepping in, trying to "contact" them when they would never refund. Just looks like the criminal coming right back to the crime scene.
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Who cares just say this guy scammed you charge back immediately
This is about your only hope. That site is a scam site run by coinbuyer, and I guarantee you that you will not be receiving any Bitcoin whatsoever. How much did you send them? Looks like it started at $50 then went to a few thousand ..
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Who cares just say this guy scammed you charge back immediately
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Paycoin paypal Paybase Coinbase
Who else will they try to impersonate?
Really were at the point of saying using the word Pay is impersonation for a payment system? (paybase and coinbase i feel you there) Yeah when they put their logo next to it every time
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Gaw has gone full ponzi. They sold whatever hashing they have for cash. Selling you premined paycoin then good bye. Happens every time. He's already getting you used to little "delays" just like every hyip scam.
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Paycoin paypal Paybase Coinbase
Who else will they try to impersonate?
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It's sad to see mostly newbies, foreigners and minorities getting scammed. There's a kid on there asking his parents for more money. When they lose it they'll blame Bitcoin.
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Chargeback what you can asap
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When the coin opens to the public on Jan. 2 with what Mr. Garza says will be an anticipated market capitalization of $250 million, the company will partly back that with a store of fiat currency worth around $100 million.
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/11/25/bitbeat-gaw-miners-to-launch-bitcoin-challenger-paycoin/It took bitcoin 4 1/2 years to achieve a market cap of $250 million and GAW expects their coin to achieve that in 3 months (whitepaper to market)? This makes 0 sense. You cannot just create $250 million out of thin air. Markets just don't work like that. Hey Chris. I enjoyed your posts on HT in the short time you were there. I agreed with your challenging posts. In this case though, I disagree. I think with the proper investment capital you absolutely CAN start with a market cap with that number. Unknown startups do that everyday with unknown IPOs. $250 million is chump change in the VC world. Now keep in mind that this will be the market cap at launch. 5 minutes after launch and we'll see what the actual market cap is. The fiat backing is probably the biggest plus of this coin. BTC has nothing like it and you can see what happens with its price. With close to 100 million USD as a glorified buy wall to keep the price up, it's not hard to understand how this number is reached. Now, if you remember the INITIAL white paper, they said 96 million coins at launch. At $20 per coin, that put the market cap at over 2 billion USD. I, and others on HT, were up in arms on the math. Josh's responses were absolute BS and made me seriously consider dumping everything I had at GAW since the math did not add up. With the NEW whitepaper and a mere 5ish million coins for the ICO (and a total coin amount down to 12 million from 1.2 BILLION) made the numbers add up a bit. Regardless of all that shit I just wrote (heh) the bottom line is you can't compare the early days of BTC to paycoin. A closer comparison would be to SYScoin, which supposedly had a few hundred BTC to keep the price up. Anyone who followed SYS knows they had a horrible launch and were in league with a verified scammer. I'll let the more witty posters here comment on the above with regards to GAW. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That said, I don't believe for a second that Josh is out to scam us. I do believe that he may be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over his head in launching a new coin. As someone who has been "mining" this coin for weeks now I hope for the best but am prepared for the worst. You havent been mining anything. Youre just being given points.. wake up
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I think taking the flame war from Bitcointalk and Hashtalk over to third party articles is very childish, talk your side on here and there, it makes crypto look bad for all parties.
There are even more childish things going on here. We have attacks on family members and overwhelming hate from some posters. I was told to "fuck off" for telling someone that what he wrote was unconstructive. Some of you act like you were kept in a cage your whole lives and suddenly released and pointed in the direction of a nearest PC. People need to relax and calm down, there is far too much hate in this thread when there isn't any proof of scamming, there are plenty of confirmed scamming companies they can point there hate at and still there should be no personal attacks just simple here are the PROVEN facts and that is that. Fuck you
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Notice that Mike at WSJ is very careful with what he is saying.... He said.... That’s the claim made in a press statement Monday
They're still complicit in this fraud Contacts: paul.vigna@wsj.com, @paulvigna / michael.casey@wsj.com, @mikejcasey
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when there is a blood bath for GAW, it affects the entire bitcoin community. Newbies will end up calling Bitcoin as scam ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) what GAW is doing is not good for the industry. I know but look at their forums, there's no helping these people. I just want it over quick. Anyway these are greedy ignorant folk, maybe it's for the best.
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