You must be joking, have you seen the garbage mods have to deal with already? The last thing I'm gonna do on this forum is share my financial information publicly. For the most part, the mods are good people who care about bitcoin and the community. In return for them donating their free time to help the forum, the very least they deserve is the same privacy everyone else gets.
This. However, I can 'reveal' that I'm invested in Bitcoins and wish to see its success, and I have absolutely no ties/vested interest/investments in either ASIC company (including ASICMINER, BFL, and Avalon). |
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Then leave cause this forum is obviously not for you it is ok. You can't handle it, go home dude. Also I doubt it has 70k+ members and is actually having decent discussions about things. I really find it hard to believe. No that is the wrong way to handle forum moding, cause all you have to do is get one rouge person and your forum is done for. Also I am not self-righteous, I know the forum rules and I play by them and look at were I am, I could live off bitcoins if I wanted too mostly because of this forum.
Dude it is this simple either be a good little noob and learn something about bitcoin and then participate in the talkings or just leave, cause your one of those noobs who I know is going to just bring crap if your starting with crap right now. I really don't want see a post from your whining about scammers and how people are mean to you.
I'm not a noob, I know plenty of things about bitcoin. I just hadn't found occasion to post. Unlike 90% of the people trying to get out of noob-land here I'm at least posting something of substance instead of random postcount++ crap. And of course you choose me to crap on because you're apparently some sort of sociopath. If you think it only takes one rogue person and your forum is done for, you obviously haven't participated in Stack Overflow at all. Yes, anyone can earn some moderation powers, yes, it has several hundred thousand users. Obviously there are checks and balances in place to prevent any of the thousands of people from causing a serious issue. Discourse is an attempt to apply the same principles to a forum. Is it relatively new and unproven? Yes. Does that mean it's the wrong way of doing things? Hell no. Has it occurred to you that perhaps you're the one need to do some learning before you comment on something? Moderation powers are dangerous here. For instance, a rouge mod can purposely change the payment addresses of transactions to steal bitcoins. There's a lot more reasons why it would work there and not here. |
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Just an update here on my escrow service: Update: It's been a busy week for escrowing. A total of almost 3500~BTC were escrowed in this week alone, and 2200BTC came from a single transaction.
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oh i apologize the size is 11 regular also i can prove my validity and my trust with links to my ebay. i could even toss you my facebook but no international sorry fellow can't take that risk
For trust issues please use escrow. A conclusive list of escrows: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.40 |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is to certify that the escrow address for bremer-btc-user and wisard's ASICMINER share auction would be: 1G3wgXmEpTYSikanfjHrgQnrd2B1sCz4Ns I further confirm that the amount of 80 BTC has been received specifically for this transaction here: http://blockchain.info/tx/c02503d86987b1f9ef9441a4b2529b5089901ccc58ccf3e621a2ba5ec9abc408The following conditions still applies for all escrow transactions handled by me: Please state and agree to the conditions beforehand. If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. On the event that any problems arises, I will release the escrow to whichever party that presents me with the most convincing proof after an open discussion with others and/or theymos. John March 4 2013 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRNMLWAAoJEINT5jezqu6wMMEQAIcmCxXrHoq9HPk9+n7e6iIN 5tUdVK5DE1iCrjau0xcBYR2ztLL9QlcqkMm5R9D9+CCAj+emLWI3C0R1R+MZAlps /MbqV7Mfkh12VGg8GBjncnvShOd93mMPu10SmniUtbI8zdh+LGMcsqjZAjrKnFNV Kba3AHDplkPbhvJTF4gHd3vQ+wp9e2xQBVgrmLFAX7iKuB7wht71eoXCuoysRdog Z7XvPtUCa0il3P0fttnv8jlgZVjQ7rm2OddycOHjnEnYV6WpfO/uBB76zTV5QiMd 8M0q/ORYe4Uzqne1bVRlmNOriWIe7cn9hp9feLUMcrOHRpBH2AQotsanviqJbvwJ dZMJHsLXU5J8oOB7gaSlf98xy4RsrAjP0uokgfkBxH2hBCp47UAqtU1HTzPnaS8n xwtqFsUrgFt0lzaGnNpJhnYiW3f4LpctW1MouHfSxaVHEm+CAfxzTJ+Vsb+xD4TR DTJhPJomHLLJHBvIv4AA0na9R5t5Lmu4WuUvzFTL5Iu2qdHukoXHrBdpG+7H03GO PbCdB9mduzu+qWwMpKgLni8Tab0aQviav003SrrNNoGcGnZlW+TIibsMqTfjAKbB 5RFfVH+zaa1jPG8Ikexn1sKAPyA6zCo61nD0Y7y8iJLf3Mv+CAp0FCEUeM5gandK UqSwlpX9fNhetwq0C3Uv =7xSV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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And poor Ben's being unresponsive currently. Poor guy needs more employees now that blockchain.info's so huge. I'll PM him on this too I guess.
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As agreed in PM, I am escrowing this deal but I'm outside currently. The prior address for bitme and wisard will be used for this current deal between bremer-btc-user and wisard. I will reissue a proper contract when I reach my safe. Old contract here for the escrow address. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
The escrow address for Bitme and wisard's 237 ASICMINER share auction would be: 1G3wgXmEpTYSikanfjHrgQnrd2B1sCz4Ns
Please state and agree to the conditions beforehand.
If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery.
On the event that any problems arises, I will release the escrow to whichever party that presents me with the most convincing proof after an open discussion with others and/or theymos.
John
March 2 2013
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Guess you're in luck as Instawallet didn't send the coins to SR yet. At worse, you could send the coins to MT.Gox or somewhere else and cash it out again leaving you in the positive due to the price rises lately. Just do what Scott said above. I'm not sure about SR itself though.
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~$0.34 of current prices.
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I can do so, but only if you're willing to wait ~8 hours as I'm tucking in for the day. I'm typing my posts on a mobile on bed.  |
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I do not require that everyone use GPG; rather, it is mostly used to verify that the addresses I issue come from me and not another impostor. I can hold escrow for such transactions (and I've done a couple of those too), but please remember that I only hold BTC in each transaction. The system would work like this:
1) I receive the amount agreed to at an escrow address.
2) Buyer sends the PayPal transaction.
3a) Seller confirms, escrow released.
3b) Buyer denies receiving of the funds; I instruct either side to change to a temporary password and grant me temporary access to the account to verify the transactions involved. Alternately, screenshots may be provided in the first place as a weaker evidence. Funds released to whichever side that convinces me the most based on hard evidence.
you forgot step 4: buyer charges back PayPal after receiving their purchase and gets their money back. PayPal is bad, mKay... I know (and I've warned him a ton of times in other threads about that), but it's his freedom. He has stated above too that chargebacks are not refundable nor enforceable due to the nature of Bitcoin, and of course I cannot be held liable for that. |
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That would work out just fine john. What would be a good tip? Would you rather a percentage or a flat fee?
I operate on a tip basis, but I'd estimate the average tip amount I get at 0.5-0.8% of the total amount. This tip amount varies as I'd gladly hold escrow for new users at a token amount, but I'd expect more if the amount were more substantial (I'll need to visit the safe for that) and the contract involved is complex. |
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Deepceleron, thanks for the detailed write-up above. A few points though - the shipping costs and time/hassle needed would be quite prohibitive for most scenarios. I encourage my users to video the unboxing and insure everything completely in all cases as a lower cost alternative. Alternately, screenshots may be provided in the first place as a weaker evidence.
Maybe it might work, but not on the bitcointalk.org forum where a lot of people are aware how easy it is forge the screenshot (knowledge of HTML is all that's required). It might, yes, but there's reasons why it's a weaker evidence. If the other party disagrees with the screenshot, a temporary access to the account would be the last way to give the verdict. |
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John I would be more than willing to pay you for escrow service. Would you be willing to do escrow for paypal transactions? I know this doesn't prevent charge back risk but it would at least insure that both parties send. I dont know how to use GPG.... everyone gives me a hard time about that but I just dont care about encryption. I have no need for it. Would you take information by privanote?
I do not require that everyone use GPG; rather, it is mostly used to verify that the addresses I issue come from me and not another impostor. I can hold escrow for such transactions (and I've done a couple of those too), but please remember that I only hold BTC in each transaction. The system would work like this: 1) I receive the amount agreed to at an escrow address. 2) Buyer sends the PayPal transaction. 3a) Seller confirms, escrow released. 3b) Buyer denies receiving of the funds; I instruct either side to change to a temporary password and grant me temporary access to the account to verify the transactions involved. Alternately, screenshots may be provided in the first place as a weaker evidence. Funds released to whichever side that convinces me the most based on hard evidence. |
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He is banned from this forum, and someone giving him access to their own accounts will be banned for this too.
Would having my user ID number (or direct link to my user page which includes the ID number as part of the path) enable him to have access to my account? That is what seemed questionable to me that he would need it for any legitimate purpose. I have no desire to be a front for someone who is banned, paid or not, so I have decided not to work with this guy regardless. Now I want to find out if it's a scam of some kind, so I can report it back to the dailybitcoins.org operator to remove the ad and not have other people suckered in. No but most people re-use their passwords and likely he is going to check the password on his site against the userID you provide. There is a good point here. |
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Confirmed that I loaned BitcoinINV $1500 for a period of three months. Johnthedong has a copy of the GPG-signed agreement on file, as well as confirmation from both parties of funds sent and received.
I don't mind interest rate terms being disclosed publicly, but I'll let BitcoinINV decide how many details of the transaction to make public. This is my second large investment with a Bitcointalk.org member. I also have a deal going on with user 420 for the same amount.
I can't wait to see returns on both investments and further help the Bitcoin community along!
-Moose
I confirm and agree with the statement above. |
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He is banned from this forum, and someone giving him access to their own accounts will be banned for this too.
Would having my user ID number (or direct link to my user page which includes the ID number as part of the path) enable him to have access to my account? That is what seemed questionable to me that he would need it for any legitimate purpose. No, of course. Anyone could look that up easily. (for example theymos, the admin, is 35). |
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