I'm just worried about the future of Bitcoin as a currency. It seems to be getting harder and harder to do everyday business with it.
im thinking the same thing as you if we end up haven't to not only pay for the item + the sales tax and then a transaction fee on top of it an item that started out only costing $15 usd will end up costing $25+ usd worth of btc just to insta pay/leave with the item like we now do with cc or cash. would hate to see this wonderful experiment go up in smoke because daily business (ie buying groceries or lunch with btc wasn't planned for properly). It is a simple easy fix every 1/2 ing has 2x transaction size . Since we had a 1/2 ing we can 2x the transaction size on July 1 to two million . Then next July 1 2x the transaction size to four million. Finally when the 1/2 ing goes from 12.5 to 6.25 2x the transactions to eight million |
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runs over 300 new. Amazing but every search I have done does not turn a manual up. I do not know if it is fused> Would be nice if it was. |
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The tricky part of removing the pay-per-block is it makes a Hot wallet/Cold storage become a necessity. Hot Wallets have their own vulnerability to thieves and cold storage adds more work and book keeping and accounting files. Just ask Eleuthria, its do'able but takes time to get it right.
At times there are 6 blocks in the wallet. |
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So when its a rollover we can't change our pick from the last difficulty right ?
a new game every adjustment. so a different pick is allowed. we are starting picks at 1216 taken from here: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyBitcoin Difficulty: 163,491,654,909 Estimated Next Difficulty: 166,270,789,400 (+1.70%) Adjust time: After 1525 Blocks, About 11.2 days 1416 is the startHashrate(?): 1,096,968,792 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.6 minutes 3 blocks: 31.8 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 22:45 (4.5 minutes ago) |
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There is something fundamentally wrong with BTC if you have keep slipping more and more under the table to get confirmations...
There's nothing "fundamentally wrong" here, in fact just the opposite. This is fundamentally how bitcoin works. You're not paying anyone under the table, you're paying right up front in you tx fee, says so right there when you put a transaction together. Bitcoin has been designed since the beginning to confirm transactions with higher fees faster because it is in the miners' best interest to confirm high fee tx first and capture those fees. When Kano switches to one payout per day that should help him save some tx fees only having to send out one a day instead of multiple. Will also make payouts easier to track, I look forward to the change soon! A way to understand this is kano pays 1 dollar to send 1 block worth of coins all over the world in a safe manner. I think his payout is divided to over 200 addresses in payments. Try sending 200 checks all over the world for 1 usd. The problem is there is no consistency...that dollar kano paid last week worked but not yesterday. It probably will work tomorrow. How do you know how much to send? The oldest of his 4 payments from yesterday has been at 0 confirmations for 14 hours. What if I paid for my cup of coffee at Starbucks with BTC and I had to wait several hours for the confirmations to come through...not very useful or convenient as a currency. If it can't be used as a digital currency then there is a fundamental problem with BTC that everyone seems to just accept or ignore. i agree with this.. ive had 2 transactions fail because of fee, i sent with the standard .0001 fee.. thankfully i was able to resend them but one of the guys had a fit when he found out the transaction failed.. thought i scammed him. this is not going to go well for bitcoin as money if you cant trust who sends to you to add a proper fee. i do understand how bitcoin works, and how the fee is supposed to fuel the miners.. but the largest pools dont even give the fee to the miners.. and there is no way to add anything to the fee AFTER its send when you realize its not going to go through.. i have transactions jam up at 0.0002 and 0.0003 so it is a problem. |
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The only 2000BB breakout boards I have are made by sidehack, and those work perfectly with the 2500BBs that I have. I'm 100% certain anything that works with the 2000BB will work on it's younger brother, the 2500BB. The pinouts are the same. The only question is, can the breakout boards handle the power? I know sidehack's overbuilt (I also love overbuilt stuff  ) boards can handle it no problem, and it looks like these would too. I'd be hesitant with the j4bber board if they're hitting 104c at full load on the 2000BBs. In fact, I probably wouldn't even use them up to 2000w if they're really hitting those temps. I ran j4bberwock dual 2000/4000 at 17 amps or 4080 watts for 24 to 48 hours multiple times. There is no way the breakboard I had was 104c or 220f Maybe 105 f to 115 f Not sure where the 104c temps are picked up from . Definitely C. Commercial grade PCBs can usually run up to about 120-130C without delaminating. I can rerun the test to verify, but that number does not stand out as outlandish to me. Especially since that temperature is local to the reliefs around the connectors. That might explain why some people have had burnouts at the connector. TO give a bit more background, I have been measuring with an ambient of ~30C. A 70C rise with reliefs is to be expected at that current level. I will modify my test and see if I can get a hold of a 2500BB to acquire some thermal data. -Optim Well the jacks are warm running avalon6s. I use 15 awg cables . Do you mean the back of the boards where they attach to the psu? Or do you mean where the cables attach to the jacks? I have never felt they were hot enough to burn my hand. But since I know the Avalon 6 pulls a lot of juice I always went with the higher grade 15 awg cables. I do agree they warm up. |
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The only 2000BB breakout boards I have are made by sidehack, and those work perfectly with the 2500BBs that I have. I'm 100% certain anything that works with the 2000BB will work on it's younger brother, the 2500BB. The pinouts are the same. The only question is, can the breakout boards handle the power? I know sidehack's overbuilt (I also love overbuilt stuff ) boards can handle it no problem, and it looks like these would too. I'd be hesitant with the j4bber board if they're hitting 104c at full load on the 2000BBs. In fact, I probably wouldn't even use them up to 2000w if they're really hitting those temps. I ran j4bberwock dual 2000/4000 at 17 amps or 4080 watts for 24 to 48 hours multiple times. There is no way the breakboard I had was 104c or 220f Maybe 105 f to 115 f Not sure where the 104c temps are picked up from . |
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400 freq for 24 hours is pretty easy with a big fan cooling 1 stick
I think I did 425 for 25 hours.
I have seen a few screens above freq 450.
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You guys are funny man. Chatty as hell. Kano pool gets the trophy for user participation. Pool owner also, which is awesome. I think your all forgetting on these block payouts today/yesterday that there are other things going on with the network. Price drop will slow things down. I had 5 transactions outside of kano pool take forever to reach 1st confirmation. The issue was not just in our pool. Ranging from 3-12 hours for confirmation 1. Its frustrating, but it is what it is. If your impatient, don't shut down your miners. Turn your old ones on. The network is slow and the network is you. If bunching payouts saves money, cool. Forget that, it increases the luckilyhood of blocks. I've seen plenty off pools use this tactic successfully. Many pools only do one a day. Crank this pool back up, it was hot at 27PH.
Someone has nicehash rental price locked above .0038 and westhash locked above .0035. No fair! Payout for 100% luck is less than .0031 Boooo! payout for 107% luck is .0032 |
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So. Do I get to adjust volts with a simple switch?
Will they work with the 2500 model psu.
Would you consider making a dual board?
I may want a few singles if they work with the 2500 model psu.
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Whatever is going on it sure is weird, I wish there was a way to definitively know instead of having to guess. Price is strong right now, over $437 as I type, and difficulty is leveling off for this period anyway. I would really like to see it stay level for the next few months, I'm hoping the big hardware push is done. There's a point where there won't be enough time left to the halving for even the $0.01 kw-h power people can't ROI new gear, so it should settle down at some point.
Well my theory is that there was a big push to get stuff mining before the Holiday and now with the BW 14nm Miner being deployed and the Bifury announcements people will be holding back on further 28nm purchases, putting us into a slight lull waiting for full availability of new miners? Rich good as any other guess. although I prefer a 50 to 100 ph group of farms in China were busted for power theft. This would be very helpful to hash rate for a few jumps. |
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There is something fundamentally wrong with BTC if you have keep slipping more and more under the table to get confirmations...
There's nothing "fundamentally wrong" here, in fact just the opposite. This is fundamentally how bitcoin works. You're not paying anyone under the table, you're paying right up front in you tx fee, says so right there when you put a transaction together. Bitcoin has been designed since the beginning to confirm transactions with higher fees faster because it is in the miners' best interest to confirm high fee tx first and capture those fees. When Kano switches to one payout per day that should help him save some tx fees only having to send out one a day instead of multiple. Will also make payouts easier to track, I look forward to the change soon! A way to understand this is kano pays 1 dollar to send 1 block worth of coins all over the world in a safe manner. I think his payout is divided to over 200 addresses in payments. Try sending 200 checks all over the world for 1 usd. |
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This project is awesome to hear/read about.
If they really can repurpose old gear and give it new life that would be awesome.
Not sure what the final design will be or how it will be sold but something to think about would be how to sell the units. I know in the automotive world they do "core" charges which means you are charged extra for the part until you bring your old part back in so that it can then be sent off to be reused/refurbished. Perhaps something like that could be done here. charge the customer an extra $xx.xx on top of the miner to cover buying new shells/fans incase they don't return the "core". This would allow those that have these older units laying around but may not have the skill/ability to take apart/rebuild a miner an option to purchase a plug and play miner. The other option would be to just sell the blades for each model and let the owner do the retro fit.
Cant wait to see what comes of this venture.
My guess is they offer both methods. That way a good diy guy saves money. It also cuts shipping cost no heavy heatsinks and or fans. It also speeds work up since sidehack and co. do not have to deal with assembly of every unit. On the other hand someone with no time or skills or tools pays a little extra for a complete unit. Best of both worlds. |
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i thought about sending my compac's to a altcoin on a lottery machine any clue on where would be good place to solo mine a coin phil ?
pm sent |
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definitely a very nice set up keep the pics/info coming will be nice to see when its all up and running and what the farm ends up looking like.
do the panels auto rotate with the sun or are they static?
He may do this later but for now no. We will be moving avalon6's out of my garage this week. I hope that I can have a few photos showing the avalon6's installed by the end of the week. |
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This so confusing lately that the only thing I can state almost for sure there will be another prize rollover in this thread  and because it is so nutty you will be wrong. |
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okay they make a lot of heat. but they can run in a 100 f or 38c room. That model uses 1.3 kwatts per hour maybe 1.4 kwatts so 1.4 x 24 = 34 kwatts a day x 30 = 1020 kwatts a month 1020 kwatts maybe 85-90 piasters or just about 1 British pound really good price if you are correct. that machine may earn .4 btc for the next month minus 1 pound for power. if you can handle the heat issues of Egypt you cold make a little. the amazon price is high if you order direct from the builder you would save money. the builder of the gear https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm |
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I'm running on a linux server (ubuntu 15.10) that is an old repurposed desktop with a 7-port superpbag hub using y-cables to three sticks.
Each stick is set to about .77 and I see this error with freqs from 250-350 (i don't touch the voltage in between).
The original compac stick has always run on this hub and it never has a problem.
Stick 2121 never initializes in cgminer anymore - the light goes white then green and then stays there. Tried dropping it into a windows machine and no difference. If i take my original stick (268) and toss it onto that same windows box - works great.
Stick 2125 generally plays nice but HAS gone off into the weeds once or twice.
Stick 268 has never had a problem on any machine / setting.
I have taken 2121 and put it directly into another USB port on the server and jacked the freq WAY down - nothing. I've tossed it onto a windows machine - zadiag and all. Cgminer never can detect it.
such a weird issue.
i had linux close to perfect for more then 4 months now the one stick. When I mail it maybe sidehack can find out issue. some eye candy here is a block won by me . yeah it is an alt coin yeah it is worth about 25 usd a block but still it is fun.  |
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well I guess karma strikes. I gave away that 13th stick when it died and I hit a block PPC not BTC Funny thing I switch to PPC with the sticks and I hit 2 blocks. Since the 13th one died. One was an orphan the other is pending. 68 coins worth about 0.00115 btc each or 0.0782 btc http://mining.securepayment.cc/pools/ppcoin/list.phpFound Blocks Last 100 Blocks found by this Pool: Only Show Payed Blocks 222754: 2016-02-21 20:23:28 GMT-5 | PV68JwCpM5CGGf9rirFS7weYWXnMeiyCaC | Pending > I should photo the screen 222664: 2016-02-21 06:09:03 GMT-5 | PV68JwCpM5CGGf9rirFS7weYWXnMeiyCaC | orphan |
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