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3221  Economy / Gambling / Re: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. on: June 23, 2015, 03:29:40 AM
That's all I could find! Smiley

Some more:

0:26 "anymore" should be two words: "any more"
0:30 after pausing it to write the above line, I saw:



I reloaded the page, but it still stops at that point, with the same error.

I downloaded the video file to watch it in a standalone player. Then:

1:18 "it's not by accident to be here" is ungrammatical. "it's not an accident that you are here" would be better
2:02 "find the combination" - he says it like com-BYE-nation, but it should be com-BI-nation, with a short 'i' sound - think "bit" not "bite".
3222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 23, 2015, 03:12:45 AM
@dooglus, you alias your clamd to "cc"?  Doesn't that screw your brain because, erm, c compiler?

I've used 'gcc' for as long as I can remember. Years ago I aliased 'bc' to 'bitcoind', then 'dc' to 'dogecoind', so clamd had to be cc really.

(And I know bc and dc are calculators, but I use Python as my command-line calculator, so that's not a problem either).
3223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: June 22, 2015, 09:55:17 PM
I was approached today by somebody wanting to buy a large number of CLAMs for BTC.

It appears he doesn't wish to remain anonymous:

As the title states. Wish to purchase CLAM / Payment by BTC - Dooglus as escrow

I wish to avoid the open market, the fees involved, and the affect it would have being swapped in such a volume.

Listening to offers through the end of the day Friday the 26th. I will have 185BTC to work with.

Please only make offers if you hold a minimum of 1,000 CLAM. Please do not waste my time, I will not waste yours. Let me know your best price up front, I will be snapping up the best priced deals first with a preference on volume.

If you prefer to message on Just-Dice, my name there is "Scabby" user ID 44635

So you can deal with him directly. I'm of course willing to escrow trades.
3224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [WTB] 1,000+ CLAM - Payment by BTC using escrow - 185BTC to work with on: June 22, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
mmmm good to see my old ID being used right Cheesy

If you add a address to show proof of funds it would probably make folks feel a tiny better.

Escrow through Doog is golden.

I can also recommend BayAreaCoins as an escrow. Smiley
3225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 22, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
I'm experimenting with multisig in clams. The first part worked (creating a p2sh and sending clams to it), but the second part (spending the funds) didn't do what I expected. I found a workaround, but it's possible there's a bug in signrawtransaction. Or I made a mistake, of course. Here's more detail:

1. I used "addmultisigaddress" and created a 2-of-2 address: 6WnV4Jhe7iNQLDekwr31h9zeoK1eaDMjAw

2. I sent 0.1 clams there (small enough that it's OK if I lose it). It's txout 0 of the transaction 21db92347e153a6afdddca7f96d444d81d7daa19674ed3101e50de72cb387b19. khashier shows this transaction, but is confused by the multisig address.

3. I used "createrawtransaction" to create an unsigned tx spending this back one of my ordinary addresses.

I had one private key in my wallet and the other on paper. Using "signrawtransaction" it would sign with the one in the wallet, as expected. But then if I tried to sign with "signrawtransaction" giving the other private key explicitly in the command line, it failed. (By "failed" I mean the partially signed transaction wasn't changed.)

I can reproduce the exact same behaviour. I'll investigate, and fix it if possible. It seems to not be using the private key provided in the signtransaction RPC call.

Thanks for the report.

The problem seems to be related to the fact that signrawtransaction decides whether to use information from the wallet, or from the RPC command arguments. It won't use both.

Here's an example where I make a transaction with two simple inputs. One's private key is in the wallet, and the other's is provided in the RPC command. signrawtransaction is unable to sign it fully:

Quote
$ cc signrawtransaction $(cc createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"dddf6ac41c281317aed6445196fc14db712f0cc5812880e45eb8e534ebffd8de","vout":0},{"txid":"5bbe0ca12578cb520266178b2d6413eb2597bc251e7343b03a9d42b8733ea961","vout":0}]' '{"xJDCLAMZtRD72TC31E8SJ4a6ycFtnQyuDH":0.1}') '[]' '["'$privkey'"]' | grep complete
    "complete" : false

But if I call signrawtransaction twice, once providing the private key on the command line and once not, it is successful:

Quote
$ cc signrawtransaction $(cc signrawtransaction $(cc createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"dddf6ac41c281317aed6445196fc14db712f0cc5812880e45eb8e534ebffd8de","vout":0},{"txid":"5bbe0ca12578cb520266178b2d6413eb2597bc251e7343b03a9d42b8733ea961","vout":0}]' '{"xJDCLAMZtRD72TC31E8SJ4a6ycFtnQyuDH":0.1}') | grep hex | cut -d'"' -f4) '[]' '["'$privkey'"]' | grep complete
    "complete" : true

Edit2: here I'm able to sign a transaction spending a multisig input (2 of 2) where one key is in the wallet and the other is in $privkey. I had to provide the scriptPubKey which isn't easy to get hold of:

Quote
$ cc signrawtransaction $(cc signrawtransaction $(cc createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"2db3324af1b8e5db5ec92b85ec68226e7b17664bdff34c8e73d303c6f7011907","vout":1}]' '{"xJDCLAMZtRD72TC31E8SJ4a6ycFtnQyuDH":0.1}') | grep hex | cut -d'"' -f4) '[{"txid":"2db3324af1b8e5db5ec92b85ec68226e7b17664bdff34c8e73d303c6f7011907","vout":1,"scriptPubKey":"a914810721c3f1790b5668dcd776d2df728cb9103b8f87","redeemScript":"522103145dbd6986ff283b26d88efc2d366ee3437e64fab8c084bc766bec0b5fc41a692103fb6c6 11bf45051b192077632d79b2201577231480165c8ecb45b34c4058e530b52ae"}]' '["'$privkey'"]' | grep complete
    "complete" : true

To get the scriptPubKey, I started with the multisig address, 6SA5Wh49HnS12U3zZLvYGdFb9kDXUGx7ye, and did this:

Quote
$ python
Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56)
[GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> sys.path.append("/home/chris/Programs/python-bitcoinlib/") # from https://github.com/jgarzik/python-bitcoinlib.git
>>> import bitcoin.base58
>>> import binascii
>>> 'a9' + '14' + binascii.hexlify(bitcoin.base58.decode("6SA5Wh49HnS12U3zZLvYGdFb9kDXUGx7ye")[1:-4]) + '87'
'a914810721c3f1790b5668dcd776d2df728cb9103b8f87'
>>>

0xa9 is OP_HASH160
0x14 is 20, the length of the script hash in bytes
0x87 is OP_EQUAL

The redeemScript is from here:

Quote
$ cc validateaddress 6SA5Wh49HnS12U3zZLvYGdFb9kDXUGx7ye | grep hex
    "hex" : "522103145dbd6986ff283b26d88efc2d366ee3437e64fab8c084bc766bec0b5fc41a692103fb6c6 11bf45051b192077632d79b2201577231480165c8ecb45b34c4058e530b52ae",

I made a pull request to fix this issue: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/pull/194

Now I can sign a 2-of-2 transaction without having to look up the scriptPubKey or the redeemScript for the multisig address:

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$ cc signrawtransaction $(cc signrawtransaction $(cc createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"2db3324af1b8e5db5ec92b85ec68226e7b17664bdff34c8e73d303c6f7011907","vout":1}]' '{"xJDCLAMZtRD72TC31E8SJ4a6ycFtnQyuDH":0.1}') | grep hex | cut -d'"' -f4) '[]' '["'$privkey'"]' | grep complete
    "complete" : true

I do still need to run signrawtransaction twice, since it will still only take private keys from EITHER the wallet OR the RPC parameters, not both at the same time.

Edit3: I thought I made this edit yesterday, but I don't see it now, so I'll make it again...

I made a better pull request which lets signrawtransaction use all available private keys and multisig scripts:
  https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/pull/195

I also tagged a new release:
  https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/releases/tag/v1.4.12

And so now you can sign your 2-of-2 multisig transaction all at once, using 1 key from the wallet and one in WIF:

Quote
$ cc signrawtransaction $(cc createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"2db3324af1b8e5db5ec92b85ec68226e7b17664bdff34c8e73d303c6f7011907","vout":1}]' '{"xJDCLAMZtRD72TC31E8SJ4a6ycFtnQyuDH":0.1}') '[]' '["'$privkey'"]' | grep complete
    "complete" : true
3226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: June 22, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
I was approached today by somebody wanting to buy a large number of CLAMs for BTC.

Does anyone have CLAMs they would be willing to sell in bulk (say 1000 or more at a time) for BTC? We didn't take about price but I'm guessing he'd be willing to pay a little over market price.

Let me know.

Was it something I said?



Unintentional pump is unintentional.
3227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: June 22, 2015, 06:37:36 AM
It's been a while since I posted weekly return data.

Here's an update, showing weekly and cumulative returns, for a 1x and a 100x investor:

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1x

Dec 12 2014     0.00%   100.00%
Dec 15 2014     3.64%   103.64%
Dec 22 2014     5.02%   108.85%
Dec 29 2014     2.09%   111.13%
Jan  5 2015     8.16%   120.20%
Jan 12 2015     5.28%   126.55%
Jan 19 2015     3.55%   131.04%
Jan 26 2015     2.10%   133.79%
Feb  2 2015     2.10%   136.60%
Feb  9 2015     1.94%   139.24%
Feb 16 2015     1.93%   141.93%         100x
Feb 23 2015     1.95%   144.70%
Mar  2 2015     1.81%   147.32%         Mar  7 2015     0.00%   100.00%
Mar  9 2015     1.77%   149.93%         Mar  9 2015     0.64%   100.64%
Mar 16 2015     1.73%   152.53%         Mar 16 2015     2.53%   103.18%
Mar 23 2015     1.74%   155.18%         Mar 23 2015     4.01%   107.32%
Mar 30 2015     1.67%   157.78%         Mar 30 2015     2.06%   109.53%
Apr  6 2015     1.65%   160.38%         Apr  6 2015     2.51%   112.27%
Apr 13 2015     1.63%   162.99%         Apr 13 2015     2.48%   115.05%
Apr 20 2015     1.58%   165.57%         Apr 20 2015     1.42%   116.69%
Apr 27 2015     1.64%   168.28%         Apr 27 2015     3.43%   120.69%
May  4 2015     1.60%   170.98%         May  4 2015     0.52%   121.32%
May 11 2015     1.56%   173.65%         May 11 2015     0.94%   122.46%
May 18 2015     1.48%   176.22%         May 18 2015     0.37%   122.91%
May 25 2015     1.59%   179.03%         May 25 2015     5.65%   129.86%
Jun  1 2015     1.55%   181.81%         Jun  1 2015     4.59%   135.83%
Jun  8 2015     1.49%   184.52%         Jun  8 2015     4.12%   141.42%
Jun 15 2015     1.41%   187.13%         Jun 15 2015     2.00%   144.25%
Jun 22 2015     1.42%   189.78%         Jun 22 2015     3.48%   149.28%
                                                                       
Jun 22 2015     0.05%   189.88%         Jun 22 2015     0.00%   149.28%
3228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: June 22, 2015, 06:25:59 AM
Yup Just-dice is really the one backing the values of clams. It's really the primary thing giving demand for clams. Mandating staking pools outside of JD, all they're doing is staking outside of it but they're still leaning at the reputation JD offers if they want their clams to have any value when they sell it.  Because the reason people buy clams is because of JD.

I was approached today by somebody wanting to buy a large number of CLAMs for BTC.

Does anyone have CLAMs they would be willing to sell in bulk (say 1000 or more at a time) for BTC? We didn't take about price but I'm guessing he'd be willing to pay a little over market price.

Let me know.
3229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 22, 2015, 06:17:58 AM
EDIT: I re-pasted and now it says "OK".  It's a little strange because I was using the same rawtransaction data sitting there in the terminal window.

I don't do any kind of logging of pushed raw transactions, so I can't check the logs to see what went wrong. I'm glad it worked out for you eventually though.

Edit: since the data is intended to be publicly broadcast I don't see any harm in logging it. So I'll do that going forward. That should help to debug this issue if it happens again.
3230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 22, 2015, 05:17:09 AM
Heya Doog, I gave this a try tonight and I ended up getting the message from the just-dice.com/pushtx page "transaction rejected".  This made me wonderi if I gave the private key in the wrong format.  I was using wallet import format (key starts with a 5), is that right?

When you run the big long command, you should get back something like:

Quote
{
    "hex" : "0200[...]3433",
    "complete" : true
}

If you see "false" instead of "true", it means it wasn't able to find all the private keys it needed, which in your case should just be one of them.

The private key is meant to be in WIF, starting with a 5 for BTC keys. It will also accept the corresponding CLAM, LTC, or DOGE private keys in the same format.

So that's the first thing: did you see "compete" as true or false? If false, you're giving a valid private key, but the wrong one. If true, you're likely copy/pasting incorrectly. You need to copy just the hex value, without the quotes.
3231  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 22, 2015, 05:00:06 AM
3) is it feasible to use p2pool with a proof-of-stake coin?

Google and search the forum, but I hear PoS is not so great.  Might be some profitability in mining still, regardless.

I'm already using PoS with CLAM. It makes about 0.2% per day which is nothing to turn your nose up at.


I obviously tried searching before posting, but neither of those searches turns up anything useful. I was asking whether anyone had anything to say about the idea since I wasn't able to find anything using Google. A lot of the results are either saying how p2pool doesn't work with staking, or they're people talking about using p2pool for the PoW half of PoW/PoS hybrid coins. I'm looking to use for a pure PoS coin.

Edit: to fill in the blanks a little, I'm staking CLAM, effectively running a staking pool. I have around 80% of the actively staking coins under my control, and so stake most of the blocks. That's not a great position for a coin to be in, since if I "turn evil" I am in a position to 51% the coin, reversing transactions, shutting out competing stakers, and all that good stuff. The problem is that even though I charge a 10% fee on staking rewards, the pool is so big that it orphans something like 14% of blocks found by competing stakers, just because in the event of a network fork each staker picks their own fork as the "true" one until the next block is found. And so a new staker is better off paying me the 10% fee than solo-staking and paying an effective 14% "orphan fee.

It has been proposed that p2pool could solve this problem, but I'm not convinced and so I'm looking into it. CLAM has a 1 minute target block time, and so I'm assuming the sharechain target time would need to be much shorter than that, which may well mean p2pool isn't a good fit. Is that right? Can I get any feedback about these thoughts?
3232  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: June 21, 2015, 11:21:08 PM
You can't generate new addresses because the standard doesn't allow for that. The scan ahead is 20 addresses.

I usually only need one address at a time, but occasionally I need two. 20 is way more than I have ever needed or can foresee needing.

Is it worth splitting my previous comments up into a bunch of separate github issues, or do the developers read this thread?
3233  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Anyone know a trustworth and stable HYIP investement site? on: June 21, 2015, 11:18:04 PM
We are NOT making 1.75% daily out of it but trying to get at least 5% weekly or 20% monthly

So you are borrowing money at a rate of 1.75% per day and trying to make at least 20% monthly from it.

1.75% per day times 30 days is 52.5% monthly. Or if compounded, it's 68.28%. So if you make 20% monthly you won't even be able to pay off the interest.

I'm sure you can find cheaper ways to borrow than paying 50% interest per month, so why don't you?
3234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 21, 2015, 11:09:28 PM
I guess p2pool would improve things, as follows:

Currently if you are staking 10 CLAMs, you can expect to stake 1 CLAM every 50 days or so. If there are 100 people staking 10 CLAMs each, they each get that same very irregular reward for staking.

With p2pool, those 100 people can expect to get the same return, but with much lower variance. They each get to stake 0.01 CLAM about twice per day. Their expectation is the same (still 14% lost due to orphans) but their income is much steadier.

Thinking about it more, p2pool works by making shares much easier to find than real blocks. 1000 times easier, say. That way, the guy who currently expects to stake a real block over every 10 days gets to contribute a share 100 times per day, or once every 15 minutes.

But there's a problem with that. If JD stops solo-staking and joins the p2pool network, that's almost all the network weight that will be on p2pool. That means p2pool will be staking about once per minute, and so its members will be contributing 1000 shares per minute. Thos shares need to be added to the share chain. So we have a distributed blockchain adding 16 blocks per second. And we thought the orphan rate was bad now!

So that doesn't work. What can we do to fix it?

Do we make the '1000' vary per miner? So JD still only submits full block solves, bitdice works on shares that are 10 times easier than standard, and the little solo-staking guy works on shares that are 1000 times easier? But isn't there a problem there too? If bitdice is only going to submit shares which are 10 times easier than a full block, surely it will get 100 times as much 'credit' for each share as the small solo miner does for each 1000x easier share he submits. Because their shares are 100 times harder. But what is to stop bitdice from selling their too-easy-to-publish shares to the little guy for him to publish on the share-chain and get credit for? This is probably something that has come up with the Bitcoin p2pool already. I've not been able to find anything very in-depth written about how p2pool works however.

Maybe p2pool only works well for Bitcoin because 1) the blockchain targets 10 minute blocks and 2) not a very large percentage of the hashrate is using it. With CLAM we have neither of these - the blocks are very fast already, and JD would want to use it.
3235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 21, 2015, 09:34:03 PM
Although you can include multiple inputs to the coinstake transaction, only one of them is part of the proofhash (the others are just along for the ride) and with a fixed reward of 1 clam including more inputs to the coinstake transaction would just reduce the return on investment, seeing as it does not alter the proofhash, thus it would actually be detrimental to your returns rather than creating more value. If you were in fact able to change your proofhash based on how many inputs you include this would be a significant security risk because it will allow stake grinding and computation attacks.

Right. The only reason I can see for including extra inputs is if you have a bunch of dust outputs and want to combine them. The CLAM client will do this automatically for outputs at the same address that is currently staking, but the protocol will even allow you to combine outputs from different addresses if you want to. I'm guessing the client doesn't do this because it can cause confusion in the accounting system.

Also is the the type of chart that you clammers are looking for?

Yes, that looks perfect.
3236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest on: June 21, 2015, 09:24:03 PM
3237  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 21, 2015, 09:02:41 PM
I used to run a p2pool node a few years back but have lost touch with developments recently. I have some questions:

1) is p2pool still actively developed?

2) where can I find the most active git repository for it?

3) is it feasible to use p2pool with a proof-of-stake coin?

4) did anyone ever try that?

5) if not, what challenges might I face in porting p2pool to a PoS coin?

Thanks!
3238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 21, 2015, 05:15:46 PM
One thing that seriously has me bothered is the address that is sending outputs on coinstake transactions... I will need to perhaps reindex my db to deal with that.

I forgot to address that.

I created those weird staking transactions yesterday as an experiment.

There has been talk recently of porting Bitcoin's p2pool distributed staking pool code to CLAMs. p2pool pays its miners directly in the coinbase transaction, and I was wondering if that was even possible with CLAM. I was aware that there was some kind of check in place to make sure that the input and output were for the same address. It turns out that it's only checking the first (actually second, since the first is always zero) output's address, and so we are free to add extra outputs to pay other miners their reward.

So you won't find too many of those weird transactions in the blockchain so far, but if p2pool ever happens for CLAM you can expect to see lots of them.

I was intending to experiment with multiple input sources in staking transactions too, but didn't do that yet.

Edit: OK, so I tried it and it worked. You can have multiple inputs from different addresses, and multiple outputs to different addresses, just so long as the first input address is the same as the first output address:

http://khashier.com/tx/2d621c452eef8f3f8e260f949488ff015007303d2c04669f619c11a0a766d172
3239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 21, 2015, 08:06:32 AM
I have the richlist updating every 12 hours at the moment, so it should be temporary patch for the problem until I can redesign a bit of my code. I updated the richlist claim name length to display more text (and prevent user from recording a name that will be cutoff due to max size), and am not displaying the burn address... if its not part of the supply should it be included on a richlist? Up to you guys. Will play around with some of the other code tomorrow.

I think hiding it is fine. It's an artifact of the initial distribution method.
3240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 21, 2015, 05:40:33 AM
Maybe I worded my post poorly, I do very much appreciate all the feedback. It has me searching through my code at this very moment seeing how I can make it more efficient, as well as adjust some of the settings to display the information more properly. For example I have already customized the richlist code (other coins it is fine to calculate on the fly because the address count is not quite so high, and people really do like to see themselves move up this list in real time), the transaction input number so you can see exactly which input is being spent, address zoom, and a few other things as well. Its a work in progress and I do hope to be able to make as many people and coin communities as happy with the data analysis as possible. One thing that seriously has me bothered is the address that is sending outputs on coinstake transactions... I will need to perhaps reindex my db to deal with that.

Feel free to shout out any more bugs or suggestions.

I figured you wanted feedback, so I gave it. I'm not good at sugar-coating it. I think your tool is good, and found a bunch of possible ways to improve it. That's all. Smiley

I figure with the rich-list you can keep a database table of address balances, and update it each time a new block is added to or removed from the chain. Then you can query it very quickly, esp. if there's an index on the balance column. See how blocktree does it - they have it always up to date and quick to query.
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