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3221  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: A development company just charged me $3300 for a first call on: May 21, 2018, 11:05:00 PM
I searched for every possible related company on the internet, but none of them charge these figures, so I am actually interested in hearing from OP what company it is that he had contact with.

It might also have been a company thinking that they could bank on another potentially multi million dollar ICO, and for that reason could justify asking these prices, but instead of thousands they haven't got anything.

I wouldn't be too worried about a bad ending. I however hate it when companies try to conduct unfair business where they adjust their prices based on the client they hope to do business with.
3222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the Bitcoin market going to collapse? on: May 21, 2018, 10:38:49 PM
It's true that there are now a lot of other coins, but they haven't really made much progress, so the chances of them overtaking bitcoin is slim to none.
Technically speaking, only Ethereum managed to differentiate itself from the massive crowd of altcoins. There are a few other coins doing relatively well, but none of them hit a market as hard as Ethereum.

If we look at the old-school altcoins, they all have ended pretty bad in terms of their value. Only Litecoin managed to keep holding up its ratio against Bitcoin. I am fairly sure that current altcoins and tokens will end exactly like that.

There just isn't any need for that many coins. They don't contribute to anything other than allowing pump and dump schemes to use them occasionally as get rich quick tool, and that's the hard reality.
3223  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Demand>BTC Supply= High Priece of BCT. on: May 21, 2018, 09:46:08 PM
Bulgarian authorities have said to own around 200,000 BTC, which I personally find very questionable.
It was worth over $3 billion at the time it was reported, but I don't believe any of this and think it's just another anti crypto campaign to unleash fear. Governments aren't shy of these practices.

The central bank of Poland once financed an anti crypto campaign on social media, and this might be the next thing from that region. I don't doubt they seized a certain amount of Bitcoin, but this is just insane.

It doesn't even sound convincing. I'm not sure if any business or organization performed blockchain analysis in an attempt to locate these wallets, but I would definitely be interested to see the results.

The number of coins it concerns as a whole is too significant to not be a somewhat easy to locate target.
3224  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-20] Cryptocurrency is Property in Russia, Justice Minister Confirms on: May 20, 2018, 11:54:54 PM
That's why I don't trust them, well in terms of their release statement. Because in the past it seems that someone will be friendly at crypto and then the next day other big shot Russia government officials claim otherwise.
Their statements and actions have always been very contradicting, but this is somewhat different, so there is a little more hope from my side that it at least is a step in the right direction.

I never expect Russia or basically any other country to legally classify Bitcoin as currency. Russia clearly state that it's prohibited by law to use anything other than the Ruble to conduct transactions, so we know their standpoint.

I just hope that the uncertainties there will end for everything related to crypto. Clear regulations are needed to allow businesses to freely develop themselves, but that's currently not possible.

It has been going on for years now, and technically we haven't moved forward at all. This is the perfect opportunity for them to prove that they are actually planning to work out things differently this time.
3225  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-20] The Bubble is Not Bitcoin on: May 20, 2018, 11:15:29 PM
I think the forum should do something about it other than tagging user account with negative remark Cry    
This forum is business oriented. It won't do anything overly aggressive towards altcoins, because it's a very important traffic generator. At the of the day, scams aren't moderated, so they do enjoy a certain extent of freedom.

The main factor is that we shouldn't really put the focus on altcoins, but just focus on that what actually contributes to growth and development. Altcoins will even be what they are without this forum.

At some point the far majority of the altcoins will no longer be able to operate with how exchanges are becoming stricter, and that directly goes up for regulations as well. There will be a time where only a dozen of coins are left.

You can't expect from such a new industry to be perfect right away. It's all about supply and demand. Is there demand for these scam coins? Yes, so they will keep popping up until that demand is no longer there.
3226  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: REASONS OF ILLEGALIZING BITCOIN on: May 20, 2018, 10:42:21 PM
Not every country declared bitcoin as illegal some countries did so. I think major reason for declaring bitcoin illegal is Taxes, Banks and Scammers.
Don't believe that. It's nothing more than an excuse to punish Bitcoin because of how much of a threat they consider it to be. Governments are very desperate, and we keep noticing that with how they try to slow its growth.

For the first time in decades governments have to worry about something that potentially can disrupt their system, and it feels really good. We can choose to no longer be their slave, and that wasn't possible before Bitcoin.

This change will eventually force governments to show more respect and appreciation for what we can offer. It's no longer what you as citizen can do for the government, but what can the government do for its citizens.

At the end of the day the government is there to serve the people, and not vice versa. It has become a total monster.
3227  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: i heard bitcoin illegal in Taiwan...why? on: May 20, 2018, 09:56:54 PM
For those countries that are making bitcoin as illegal, well I do understand them but at some point it is also disappointing that they are making decisions on their own without seeing the whole story and how it would benefit in their country and their people.
How can you understand governments prohibiting the use of Bitcoin? It's all done to severely limit people's freedom, which directly also means that they on purposely don't allow their economy to develop, which is pathetic.

If you take all that in consideration, then it's clear that the system there is only functioning to feed the elite at cost of their country, and you understand that? I definitely can't and never will understand that.

We all strive for a better world, and that better world won't ever emerge with how governments on purposely prevent their economy from growing. People don't have to deal with this nonsense anymore thanks to Bitcoin.
3228  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Price $15000 in July on: May 20, 2018, 01:06:45 AM
The fact is that we can't keep on making these predictions without basis. All of these predictors are just delusional people.
We actually can. It's called speculation for a reason. If predictions don't play out how people were thinking it would, they will adjust it so they have a better shot at being right the next time.

It's however a different story if we talk about how much value these predictions hold, which is pretty much zero. This is actually what makes even the best traders in this market lose out ~ there is just no way to predict it.

Plain gamblers are lucky and bank on certain opportunities one day, while chart analysis guys completely miss the boat, and then a week later the same situation repeats, but then vice versa.

I'm glad that I am in for the long term and don't have to go through all that.
3229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Survived 8000, time for $10k? on: May 20, 2018, 12:18:36 AM
It's been more than 3 months bitcoin prices below $ 10,000 and this certainly makes a lot of users worried, the price looks stable at $ 8000 but I also can not wait to keep waiting.
No one forces you to keep waiting, so if you are done with that, liquidate your holdings and you are free my man. I haven't seen that many well thinking people be worried about the market actually.

The only ones who complain are noobs and get rich quick clowns. If you think logically, there is no other thing to do than to have patience. There is no asset with more growth potential and volatility than what crypto has to offer.

People usually wait an entire year with stocks and bonds to be rewarded with just 2-3%, and people here dare to complain about how slow or boring the current crypto market is. Respect the market you invest in.
3230  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-19]High School Students in the Netherlands Are to Pass an Exam on Bitco on: May 19, 2018, 10:06:59 PM
That's actually quite surprising. If you haven't been somewhat notified about these type of questions, I can understand that people will struggle with them, even if they have heard of it in the media or whatever.

I'm sure that a lot people here on this forum don't even know the very basics of Bitcoin, so how can we expect that from complete strangers? A lot of the average joes are only hyped about the potential returns.

They have no idea what the underlying technology is and how it functions in basic terms. Making money is their only incentive right now, and I seriously hope that it will change eventually. We nearly all started like that, right?
3231  Economy / Speculation / Re: What would happen if Bitcoin did hit $1m by mid-2020? on: May 18, 2018, 11:35:33 PM
I'm not yet sure to what extent, but I have always believed that the current large crypto holders will eventually become part of the wealthy elite. We already have quite some crypto billionaires already.

Think about Roger Ver, Jihan Wu, Vitalik Butterin, Coinbase CEO, Binance CEO, Mark Karpeles (obviously through theft), Winklevoss twins, Ripple gang, and the list goes on. It's an interesting group of people for sure.

I'm sure there are even some publicly unknown crypto billionaires in the background. I'm happy that we have pushed it this far. I remember the days as yesterday where Bitcoin's market cap was less than $1 billion.
3232  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Staying away from Bitcoin for 5 years on: May 18, 2018, 10:59:27 PM
The success in Bitcoin does not happen in a glimpse, it takes time, patience, and perseverance. If you lose track and get affected with its pump and dump and still want to survive, be strong, don't panic, instead be smart to find other ways and still be productive.
You are totally right, but the majority of the people tie increases and decreases to Bitcoin's overall health. As long as it goes up, Bitcoin is doing fine, but it not, they believe it's losing popularity and will be replaced.

It's not for nothing that a lot of these rookies keep paying attention to CoinMarketCap and Bitcoin's dominance versus the rest. They don't know that it doesn't mean anything that altcoins catched up on Bitcoin there.

It's just the numbers they look at and that's enough for them to think that Bitcoin is going backwards. They have no idea how total coin supplies of altcoins and tokens mess up everything badly in that aspect.
3233  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Law of Blockchain: Beyond Government Control? on: May 18, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
I doubt if they will be able to do it indefinitely
Not only that, but there isn't really a reason for them to do so. Bitcoin isn't a threat but will turn out to function as solid cross-border tool allowing them to conduct all types of transactions in a safe and impossible to alter manner.

Bitcoin's advantage is that it is open of nature, and its ecosystem is easy to control. In the end I think the conspiracy theories are quite exaggerated and we'll see a more overall friendly Bitcoin regulatory framework.

People keep blaming Bitcoin for not being anonymous and whatnot, but this is actually one of the main reasons it won't be facing harsh restrictions in the coming years. In other words, it's what makes Bitcoin only stronger.

In the same way people should be happy that Bitcoin isn't being used much as a currency. It makes sure governments don't feel threatened by Bitcoin, and that also leads to less hostility in the end.
3234  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any way to earn 5% interest/profit per month on: May 18, 2018, 11:22:23 AM
Hello there right now i have got approx 20,000USD with me and i want to invest them...i am looking for an investement where i can earn about 3-5% per month and my 20k USD stay safe as well....Can mining provide me that return...please suggest me some options
Rule nr1, if you have to ask others where to invest your money in, please don't invest.

I am not going to recommend anything since everything we come up with is new and unknown to you, and more importantly, it will be a gamble for you. That's not how you should invest your money.

There is no way to gain 3-5% per month without exposing yourself to unnecessary risks. Take some distance from your capital and only invest your time in getting to know how everything works, and what viable options are.

It's pointless to force yourself to invest when you don't even know what to do. People having done so anyway are all regretting it since there is no fun or whatever in losing money you worked hard for.
3235  Economy / Exchanges / Re: YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed? on: May 18, 2018, 11:10:10 AM
the issues you stated are why I tell people to not go to Yobit for anything, yet thousands of people still do go there for trading every day. They're a small exchange with huge problems, and in the world of crypto especially, time is money.
Well, as long as you stick to the main altcoins and avoid tokens and all other rubbish, these exchanges work fine if you ignore occasional issues here and there, which basically every exchange nowadays is subject to.

It also comes down to Hitbtc. It's as always tokens causing the most problems, and they are the reason the popularity of these exchanges has grown significantly throughout the years.

The sooner people stop using and trading tokens (most tokens don't add anything other than speculation anyway) the less problems people will experience. There is a reason major Bitcoin exchanges never list this rubbish. Wink
3236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: does it feel like 2014 again? on: May 18, 2018, 09:35:21 AM
I can understand that people feel like that, but if a similar scenario unfolds, then use it as the best possible opportunity you'll ever get to buy as many coins as possible.

The thing is that there aren't that many coins left to buy for the general public, and in case the market happens to decrease significantly (which I don't think will happen), large pockets will buy up even more coins.

Direct result is that with less coins in circulation, the market is far easier to increase. See it as a shakeout of weak hands before the next rally comes up. People shouldn't sell any of their coins.

Selling coins is like rewarding large players for their manipulation attempts. Instead, use it to buy more coins as I said, which is exactly what I'm doing.
3237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC again Fall down at 7k?! on: May 18, 2018, 01:07:50 AM
The consensus may bring it up, if only it would be something positive, but if not, then it could break bitcoin.
Consensus? You mean the Coindesk consensus event? If so, then I wouldn't expect anything to happen anymore since it's over already. People's expectations were high as always, but it didn't yield anything as we see.

Everything they covered there was quite interesting and positive overall, but it wasn't anything capable of giving the market the boost that it needs, or more precisely said, that people think the market needs.

There is too much hype around every event, and time on time again we see the market do the opposite of what people expect to happen. I'm sure it's not just me noticing this, and there definitely are people turning this into money.
3238  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Fluctuates Below $8,500 on: May 17, 2018, 11:47:44 PM
According to my analysis, the $ 8000 level will not last long and the bitcoin price will continue to fall and will reach the $ 7400 threshold to start rising again. Therefore, you should not trade at this time, wait for bitcoin price to $ 7400 mark to buy.
It's pointless to tell people that they shouldn't trade. In every up or downward trend there is a decent bit of money to be made. It's not even sure whether or not the price will go down towards the $7400 mark.

I would love to scoop up some coins around that level, but we have to remain realistic and accept that literally anything can happen right now. We might just as well go slightly up again from this point, no one here knows.

Currently we're back at levels we were hovering over one month ago, so from the large green candle that popped up last month we remained fairly stable and I don't see anything pointing at a major change.

It's more a cycle that I see develop here.
3239  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC/USD dangerously close to $8,000, but HODLers never give up on: May 17, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
I like how the speculation section here perfectly mirrors the sentiment on social media platforms. Everyone is saying that they will hodl through this 'bear market', but when the price slips further, coins will be sold instantly.

Hodlers (and I mean actual hodlers) don't bother opening threads or sharing their concerns, they just allocate time and resources to more rewarding opportunities in the meantime.

If you are in for the long term, what's the point of looking at how the market is jumping up and down? If you take advantage of the volatility with trading it's different, but aside from that there isn't anything you can do with it.
3240  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2018-05-17 Bitcoin Mining To Use 0.5% Of World’s Energy By End Of 2018, Peer-Rev on: May 17, 2018, 10:35:09 PM
It wasn't all that long ago where I read an article about how the traditional financial system consumes way more energy than Bitcoin and all other coins combined. Should we point at how bad that is?

With how the world is changing more and more, the energy consumed by the financial system will keep increasing as well. Imagine how much of a reduce in energy consumption blockchain usage will lead to.

At some point when financial institutions and governments use Bitcoin's network for cross-border trades and transactions, they will drop all this useless energy consumption drama.

No usage means Bitcoin's energy consumption is a problem. Usage means we don't talk about it anymore. That's how governments work.
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