We're up for voting on CoinPayments.net =) One vote per person and it costs 0.001 BTC - https://www.coinpayments.net/vote This could definitely be a big push in the right direction! =) Best regards, syntaks Voted  Voted! |
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Thanks a lot for the continued support guys. I'll say one thing - it's easy when you're releasing your code + your best attempt at any sort of design but it's another when you're working with a pro who not only can design but understands how the design flows and how people will be using it. The underlying code for the most part is done, it's just a matter of each piece to the wallet getting fleshed out. Normally I'd be posting screenshots or screencasts, but oh boy, this release is just really that slick. There aren't many pieces left to shove into the puzzle and I promise you all, I give you my word, it will all be worth the wait. I'm just about to start putting some work into arbitrush a bit. If anyone needs me, of course you know where to find me =)
Sincerely,
syntaks
I like to hear that! I often thought that design is underrated and it is never just about "a nice look" but usability. I'm absolutely sure it's worth the patience. |
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Everyday progress! Great! |
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In honor of the Cloak release being 3 days away, the marketing team would like to announce that our first update will be released tonight.Any feedback is welcome.  The site is up now if you want to check it out, but will not be completed till later today Wow!! Great Job! |
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I swear to God you guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment with the way you're hyping Cloak for a pump on Wednesday. Could it rise much later? Maybe, but expect no pump to 100/200k in one day. I think many of you re forgetting that there are a huge amount of bagholders with this coin making it a nightmare for pumpers to actually bother with this coin. The best thing can do is play with the coin up until the release and leave it. It will only go two ways; no price increase, or a very large dump. Be careful guys, don't just blindly follow the people screaming "CLOAK!" all day and make your own judgments instead of being a sheep.
Yes, there are to ways: They develop a success and the price will rise and than it would be all the same if some Bagholders sell or hold - and, why should they sell? Or: There will be a delay or issues etc. Than the price would probably drop again. But I think, who is in will hold for the longtime-potential. And as long they keeping on the development, there is a good chance that they develop the holy Grail of Crypto. And if that should become reality, the price would be unpredictable - but, for sure: rise. Yes no-one knows what the future holds for Cloak, it's just that if there is another delay, or if it's not working properly that will be enough to completely kill the coin. Even if it works, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a dump. Why do you think there is the saying "Buy on rumour, sell on news". There wil most likely be activity leading up towards the release, and then it will be met with another dump like Some of Cloak's previous releases and also like when DRK finally released RC4. What carried the coin to 360k was hype an P&D groups, and that was it. This time around there's only a tiny bit of hype, but Cloak has now been left behind with that 92-94% drop it suffered in a space of a week. I think, there will be all reasons for selling and buying... like everytime. First: The Volume will rise. That's for sure and that would be already good. Some maybe will sell before the release. Some will sell after it, all the same if it will become a success or not. Some will buy on rumor and sell on news. Some sell because they need to repair the car and so on. All that is unpredictable and in every market. But really relevant in my eyes is just one question: Will they deliver? If yes, the price will rise. It will also rise if there should be some "dumping on release". It wouldn't mean much. Cloak as the best it could be, would be one of the best Cryptos on the whole market. One of a very few cryptos that would attract "real money", and over time... a lot of it I would think. |
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I swear to God you guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment with the way you're hyping Cloak for a pump on Wednesday. Could it rise much later? Maybe, but expect no pump to 100/200k in one day. I think many of you re forgetting that there are a huge amount of bagholders with this coin making it a nightmare for pumpers to actually bother with this coin. The best thing can do is play with the coin up until the release and leave it. It will only go two ways; no price increase, or a very large dump. Be careful guys, don't just blindly follow the people screaming "CLOAK!" all day and make your own judgments instead of being a sheep.
Yes, there are to ways: They develop a success and the price will rise and than it would be all the same if some Bagholders sell or hold - and, why should they sell? Or: There will be a delay or issues etc. Than the price would probably drop again. But I think, who is in will hold for the longtime-potential. And as long they keeping on the development, there is a good chance that they develop the holy Grail of Crypto. And if that should become reality, the price would be unpredictable - but, for sure: rise. |
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It went from 17k to 43k on news Alty was back from holidays! So why wouldn't it rise high and fast?
Beta testing starts tomorrow as Alty stated in IRC yesterday!
Get some cheap while you can
Let me get this clear - they are Beta testing OneMarket ? This is huge. Can we get any confirmation on this - do you have a screenshot or perhaps someone else who was there can confirm this? What I know/have is this: [20:29] <mkkio> Hello alty, all things coming along for the 10th still?
[20:29] <mkkio> @alty
[20:30] <@alty> yep it's looking good... Monday we should be testing in private beta |
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Honestly, I fell there won't be a pump on release. Maybe a small rise a day before, but the release will be met with another dump like when POSA and CloakPal where released. Just don't be too optimistic, that's why there are many bagholders.
+1, agree. I dont think anyone will pump Cloak Sep 10. I think it's always and everytime about development. Should the Release be successful and solving some problems, preferably without issues or irritating delays, we will see a rise. There is no need for a pump, but quality attracts people and the Cloak-Idea attracts a lot of Investors. Many don't want take the risk to buy before. But many are watching and if the release should be convincing they will buy. In my eyes it's very simple: Cloak has the potential to be the best Anon-Crypto. If they deliver... Cloak is back (nearly) in the same moment. |
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I am in two minds about paying to be listed on Mintpal. I agree with the facts that we are only a few weeks away from meeting the criteria, but as pointed out previous we may be on a long list of review once we break the 28 day age limit.
As far as paying. I would be happy to chip into a community pot to get that process going so the Dev team don't have to pay out of pocket. 2.5 BTC could go towards some future project.
SuperNet... i've been at work all day, so i need to read up on it.
Joe
I'm with u i would chip in aswell, i really strongly suggest everyone reads up on jl777 and the supernet, i think most ppl aren't understanding what the supernet is or does... in short its like an airport and all the diff altscoins are the airplanes. every airplane(coin) has its unique qualities. it works as a machine and benefits every coin in the supernet. just saying don't write this off so fast. again if the community isn't for it than we don't do it... thats the #1 priority for us and as well for supernet cause they would need the community behind this. I simply brought it to the table because i know neos has a unique ANON that supernet would love to have on board ,along with the best dev (syntaks)! The price of neos would skyrocket, but thats not whats important ,whats important is that it will be stable and stay on an uptrend... and be part of something that might change crypto and unite around 200 alt coins to work as a machine for the better of them all... we might see a change in crypto if all this works out, like an extinction of coins who never jumped on the network... supernet allows you to send money through the network using wtv quality in a coin that suits your need.. dunno if i made anything clear I'm not that good at explaining things but please take the time to look into it well, this decision shouldn't be simply brushed off and doesn't need to be rushed . also being part of the supernet would not change anything from neos or its plans. The vision stays intact I thought about to invest in SuperNet today. But what I don't understand since the idea was brought on the table is the rushing. The idea itself could be great. But for me, too many points are very unclear. And today, the failed ICO... thats extremely unprofessional. Take a look at the BTCD-Chart. The Price has already decreased. What I want to say is: A failure of the SuperNet could also affect every joining project. And I think, its absolutely unpredictable. The idea is too big for that rushing and it could go totally wrong. Under the line: I don't think there is any need to think about it now. If the SuperNet should become successful and a constructive aspect for Crypto and it would be a win-win-Situation for all Sides, it could be worth to think about it. But that won't be clear in days or weeks. Maybe in a few months. |
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also the mint pal fee has been lowered, prob bdue to the same reasons we were complaining how its way too expensive and seems like robbery,so its now only 2.5btc , would just like to state before everyone jumps to shut down the idea... mintpal has tons of review requests and if we were older than 28 days we would be on the launch list, but because of our age we have to wait and wait on I'm pretty sure a long list of other coins that some also deserve a review faster like neos but thats not fare to the rest of the coins waiting...so the fee is simply a way to be reviewed right away and added within 24hrs instead of a 2 week process, remember this isn't the same mint pal you guys are thinking the whole exchange is being reelaunched and I'm pretty sure it will do extremely well, and the security is stronger than ever... don't compare the volume it has now to what it can potentially have... i personally think we should pay the 2.5 btc to be listed right away not for reasons like "hopefully we get a pump" etc.. but because the more exchanges were on the better and to me mintpal will be the best exchange again ... I'm just one person, ultimately i want what the community wants  There are some reasons why Mintpal itself has some interest to add Neos. They know that it has Volume. They know that they can expect longterm-trading-fees. There is absolutely no reason why they shouldn't add it. They would benefit. And this Fee... that is a business-model and in my opinion it is really wrong. I think it's also wrong for Mintpal. The time will come and they add the first Scam because the Scam-Dev pays for it and they won't be able to exclude Scams. And maybe, the rule that they won't add Coins younger than 28 days is part of this "business-model". Very motivating to pay for a review. ;-) |
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There have been more than a few folks with Hero reps suddenly showing up to proclaim what nonsense the supernet is, how hastily it has been conceived, etc. The following is directed at them:
If you do not understand the interrelationship between teleporting & the exponential increase in mathematical anon that is achieved by being able to move payments through one or more entirely different blockchains - then you do not understand one of the key ideas underlying the supernetwork.
If you do not understand that there will be a clear network advantage to coins joining the network, you have - again - not researched the concept sufficiently.
If you do not understand the corresponding increase in valuation of said coins, and how this ico is designed to reap the benefits of it, then again, you have not done you research.
Coming in here with potty mouth sentences full of "shit shit shit" makes your Hero reps a joke.
If you have criticisms, articulate them about the underpinnings of the supernetwork - instead of engaging in shotgun character assasination of jl777 . Be intelligent. Live up to your post count.
Jmho
You implicate that teleporting will be a great success and without any problems and on top of the Anon-Solutions. But: What, if there should be problems and/or better Solutions of other projects in a few months? It just would need one project that makes it better and all participating Coins would lose value. And if there should be a problem with teleporting... every participating Coin will crash. Every serious Dev will think through this. And I think: The best won't join it. And, don't get me wrong. I like the SuperNet-Idea. But I also see this rushing and this "ICO"... and it's not well organized. And I doubt, that all consequences are clear. all usage of SuperNET is optional the devs decide on three levels of integration the user decides whether to Enter SuperNET Even when SuperNET is Entered, each tx can use or not use Teleport or any other SuperNET API The connections are peer to peer using UDP onion routed packets If there is a new project with better value, then it would be hoped that they would join the SuperNET If not, that's ok too. (...) But that could be the biggest problem. All the mediocre projects will want to enter. But the best possibly won't. But, I think it's the wrong time for such questions. I will watch and wait. As I said: I like the Idea theoretically. But I personally will wait. Time will answer my questions. We will not accept mediocre coins there are already over a dozen coins that have applied and this was before the start of fund raising and before the initial tech. so, please feel free to observe, ask questions, but I think it is not unreasonable for me to expect that you will not be making any more posts that are totally erroneous and you do not seem to be a troll. I am glad for this. James Check out https://twitter.com/Cryptopumping/status/508286537688420352 they are also hesitant I don't intend to attack anybody or this project. I will wait and watch and maybe ask some questions later. Today is not the right time for it. |
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There have been more than a few folks with Hero reps suddenly showing up to proclaim what nonsense the supernet is, how hastily it has been conceived, etc. The following is directed at them:
If you do not understand the interrelationship between teleporting & the exponential increase in mathematical anon that is achieved by being able to move payments through one or more entirely different blockchains - then you do not understand one of the key ideas underlying the supernetwork.
If you do not understand that there will be a clear network advantage to coins joining the network, you have - again - not researched the concept sufficiently.
If you do not understand the corresponding increase in valuation of said coins, and how this ico is designed to reap the benefits of it, then again, you have not done you research.
Coming in here with potty mouth sentences full of "shit shit shit" makes your Hero reps a joke.
If you have criticisms, articulate them about the underpinnings of the supernetwork - instead of engaging in shotgun character assasination of jl777 . Be intelligent. Live up to your post count.
Jmho
You implicate that teleporting will be a great success and without any problems and on top of the Anon-Solutions. But: What, if there should be problems and/or better Solutions of other projects in a few months? It just would need one project that makes it better and all participating Coins would lose value. And if there should be a problem with teleporting... every participating Coin will crash. Every serious Dev will think through this. And I think: The best won't join it. And, don't get me wrong. I like the SuperNet-Idea. But I also see this rushing and this "ICO"... and it's not well organized. And I doubt, that all consequences are clear. all usage of SuperNET is optional the devs decide on three levels of integration the user decides whether to Enter SuperNET Even when SuperNET is Entered, each tx can use or not use Teleport or any other SuperNET API The connections are peer to peer using UDP onion routed packets If there is a new project with better value, then it would be hoped that they would join the SuperNET If not, that's ok too. (...) But that could be the biggest problem. All the mediocre projects will want to enter. But the best possibly won't. But, I think it's the wrong time for such questions. I will watch and wait. As I said: I like the Idea theoretically. But I personally will wait. Time will answer my questions. |
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Than, please enlighten me. What is the current status of teleport?
Respectfully, not gonna do your HW for you. Not my job. Yes. Like expected. See... I know it. I own BTCD. I also think that James is a great developer and I have respect for him. But I don't think that teleport will be the best of all solutions, just because a natural technical evolution. And every Project that is better than the best SuperNet-Coin is a risk for every SuperNet-Coin. It's simple logic. And particularly: This theoretical great Idea of a SuperNet is so hurried up that I am really disappointed. Something big like this has to be planned and organized and thought through in every possible ascpect. And these aspects are also about involving people and Power and rules to prevent abuse of power. Every serious Dev will fear that he could lose control if he joins the SuperNet. And every serious Investor would like to have all these Infos before an ICO starts. I have read this whole thread and the Q-As and the PdF. But for me, some points are not clear. And I see that I'm not the only one. |
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There have been more than a few folks with Hero reps suddenly showing up to proclaim what nonsense the supernet is, how hastily it has been conceived, etc. The following is directed at them:
If you do not understand the interrelationship between teleporting & the exponential increase in mathematical anon that is achieved by being able to move payments through one or more entirely different blockchains - then you do not understand one of the key ideas underlying the supernetwork.
If you do not understand that there will be a clear network advantage to coins joining the network, you have - again - not researched the concept sufficiently.
If you do not understand the corresponding increase in valuation of said coins, and how this ico is designed to reap the benefits of it, then again, you have not done you research.
Coming in here with potty mouth sentences full of "shit shit shit" makes your Hero reps a joke.
If you have criticisms, articulate them about the underpinnings of the supernetwork - instead of engaging in shotgun character assasination of jl777 . Be intelligent. Live up to your post count.
Jmho
You implicate that teleporting will be a great success and without any problems and on top of the Anon-Solutions. But: What, if there should be problems and/or better Solutions of other projects in a few months? It just would need one project that makes it better and all participating Coins would lose value. And if there should be a problem with teleporting... every participating Coin will crash. Every serious Dev will think through this. And I think: The best won't join it. And, don't get me wrong. I like the SuperNet-Idea. But I also see this rushing and this "ICO"... and it's not well organized. And I doubt, that all consequences are clear. I do not imply anything. All tech advances are innately subject to risk. Evaluating that risk is always a part of crypto investing. Can you say right now, without researching, exactly what the current status of teleport is according to jl777 and btcddev - testing wise, build wise? Closed net? Integration point? Testnet? Propagation? I can. This research is part of my risk calibration. If you cannot, perhaps you are correct in not investing, because your research is incomplete. My guess is all the other recent 3 & 4 star commenters here have no idea either. But that does not stop them from this relentless expert opinion. Than, please enlighten me. What is the current status of teleport? |
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There have been more than a few folks with Hero reps suddenly showing up to proclaim what nonsense the supernet is, how hastily it has been conceived, etc. The following is directed at them:
If you do not understand the interrelationship between teleporting & the exponential increase in mathematical anon that is achieved by being able to move payments through one or more entirely different blockchains - then you do not understand one of the key ideas underlying the supernetwork.
If you do not understand that there will be a clear network advantage to coins joining the network, you have - again - not researched the concept sufficiently.
If you do not understand the corresponding increase in valuation of said coins, and how this ico is designed to reap the benefits of it, then again, you have not done you research.
Coming in here with potty mouth sentences full of "shit shit shit" makes your Hero reps a joke.
If you have criticisms, articulate them about the underpinnings of the supernetwork - instead of engaging in shotgun character assasination of jl777 . Be intelligent. Live up to your post count.
Jmho
You implicate that teleporting will be a great success and without any problems and on top of the Anon-Solutions. But: What, if there should be problems and/or better Solutions of other projects in a few months? It just would need one project that makes it better and all participating Coins would lose value. And if there should be a problem with teleporting... every participating Coin will crash. Every serious Dev will think through this. And I think: The best won't join it. And, don't get me wrong. I like the SuperNet-Idea. But I also see this rushing and this "ICO"... and it's not well organized. And I doubt, that all consequences are clear. |
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Yes subSTRATA. Everyone here is very stupid. The creator and those (including me) investing a few bucks over here.
Creator is a very smart guy (one gotta know the job very well to pack craps into seemingly valuable deal and also promote it as such), it is most of you others who are stupid. If you really want to try and prove a point about something, then providing more information beyond "it's shit and you are stupid for investing in it" is required. Your argument is that of a child who can't formulate an actual argument, so they resort to insults instead. I'd honestly be interested in some sort of actual, rational debate as to why this whole thing is a bad idea other than "it's a crap asset of bundled crap", because that does not actually make any sense to me. You first must know what exactly you have bought into. http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdfThe Problem I see is: The really good projects probably will not want to be part of the Supernet. And if the SuperNet itself shouldn't be a great success and technically complete stable, it involves risks for all participating projects. So, in the end it could be a SuperNet-Coin-Comunity of mediocre Coins. I like the theoretical idea. But everytime I think about all aspects that could follow, included much Power in the hand of just a few people if it should be a success, I'm not sure I like it. And this ICO-mess is not really great PR. I will watch, but... I think I won't buy until I see first real steps. No serious coin will ever join this scam... I don't say or think this is Scam. But I think it's maybe not thought through all aspects that would follow if it should be successful and if not. And yes, as I said: One problem could be and I think will be, that the best Coins won't be part of it. But all the mediocre Coins would like to participate. In the end it could be the opposite of that what is intended. And... therefore there is no limit of possible participating Coins, there could be even a kind of "SuperNet-Coin-Inflation". And: I think there will be a lot of dispute about the Coins that should be implement or not and why or why not. And who will decide it? A few people? The SuperNet-Community? The participating Devs? And: The way out could be much harder than the way in. Therefore, serious Devs will probably think about it more than just twice. |
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Yes subSTRATA. Everyone here is very stupid. The creator and those (including me) investing a few bucks over here.
Creator is a very smart guy (one gotta know the job very well to pack craps into seemingly valuable deal and also promote it as such), it is most of you others who are stupid. If you really want to try and prove a point about something, then providing more information beyond "it's shit and you are stupid for investing in it" is required. Your argument is that of a child who can't formulate an actual argument, so they resort to insults instead. I'd honestly be interested in some sort of actual, rational debate as to why this whole thing is a bad idea other than "it's a crap asset of bundled crap", because that does not actually make any sense to me. You first must know what exactly you have bought into. http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdfThe Problem I see is: The really good projects probably will not want to be part of the Supernet. And if the SuperNet itself shouldn't be a great success and technically complete stable, it involves risks for all participating projects. So, in the end it could be a SuperNet-Coin-Comunity of mediocre Coins. I like the theoretical idea. But everytime I think about all aspects that could follow, included much Power in the hand of just a few people if it should be a success, I'm not sure I like it. And this ICO-mess is not really great PR. I will watch, but... I think I won't buy until I see first real steps. |
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