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3241  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a micro loan for 4-5 days on: November 13, 2012, 07:39:05 PM
Just sent 0.25 BTC back, thanks again.

Confirmed, loan was paid back. Thank you.
3242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announcing the Bitcoin Kiez rollout on: November 13, 2012, 05:49:57 PM
Wow, just wow!

12 hour ride for me (by train) to get to Berlin, but it really seems it's getting to be worth it.

Your are awesome. That's the best news I have heard in a while here!

Congratulations.
3243  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How to approach companies right? on: November 13, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
I have the feeling that many bitcoiners try to spread attention and participation way to enthusiastic.

You should instead make a similar approach as any Business Developer in Companies, when it's about winning new business.

A, now outdated but still effective and easy to learn approach is,  split your attempt in four chapters:

1. Attention:

Most important part, here the decision will be made if the (potentially) customer even reads through the rest of you message.

This part should show some simple solutions to his problems and not be techy.

The only target here is, that the customer get's the impression, that you have really something interesting to offer. It's not even necessary that he knows what after this section.

2. Interest:

Here it's all about to get his interest. If you will communicate more than one time with him than after this chapter you stop. It's about getting him thinking and inform himself. It's planting the spark  Grin

If it's a one time approach it's the time to show some fitting example solutions.

3. Desire:

Now you show them why this is exactly what they need. If you gotten to here it's time to get into detail, if you where successful in the points before no one will stop reading here. Convince them that BTC is the solution to their needs.

4. Action:

Now, and not sooner you present them your offer ( hard if you are offering something for free!) This is the point when you try to let them take action, maybe point them towards services that help by the implementation.


Fin


I think a good template when we approach businesses would be really helpful.
3244  Other / Off-topic / Re: (Poll) And the race is on! on: November 13, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
Did Atlas get banned again?

No, he left on his own!!!

I will not questions things any further. I submit. I am gone.
3245  Other / Off-topic / Re: (Poll) And the race is on! on: November 13, 2012, 10:02:52 AM
Hu, tough decision, can be a head to head race between all of the points, expect the Asic delivery  Wink.

I go with the 70.000 Member. At current grow rate we will archive this in 4-5 days.

Also 900 Posts is nothing for Bruno.

And Atlas is kind of the wild card. Impossible to predict.
3246  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [BOUNTY] 1BTC for hardware wallet name on: November 13, 2012, 09:50:23 AM
Lockdown

LockIt

Razr



Heh, that's funny. LockIt and Razr were both names I came up with too.

Although I'm pretty sure Razr is the name of a Motorola smartphone.

Your Right. Should have goggled Razr before.
3247  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [BOUNTY] 1BTC for hardware wallet name on: November 12, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
Lockdown

LockIt

Razr

3248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia: "Some criticize Bitcoin for being a Ponzi scheme..." on: November 12, 2012, 06:29:26 PM
You can really see how strange Wikipedia works, by comparing the German Wikipedia article with the English one.

The German one has about 5 times the text and is of much better quality.
3249  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Preiseinbrüche bei Bitcoin.de on: November 12, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Entweder irgendwelche Rumschiebereien, oder bei dem geringen Volume der Verkäufe (0.1 BTC), wahrscheinlich ein  Bot der rummspinnt und seinem Besitzer schöne Verluste einbringt  Grin
3250  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: November 12, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
This somehow reminds me of this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfithHWiIgU

No, nice Idea, really. I hope it has some encouraging effect on him.

I really can imagine, that seeing everything you have worked on in the last years falling apart can have a depressing effect on someone and therefore bring all work to an end.

I hope he doesn't misunderstand this gesture.
3251  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bitcoin mining help please. on: November 12, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
Probably a very (very, very) low return. But you should be carefully when mining with a laptop, because they tend to overheat.

IMO not worth the risk.
3252  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Still think Agenda 21 is a crazy conspiracy theory ? on: November 11, 2012, 09:34:52 PM
True I somehow thought about this when I was watching it:

3253  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Frage zur "Anonymität" bzw Nachvollziehbarkeit von Coins. on: November 11, 2012, 09:17:34 PM
Also, um es ganz einfach zu sagen existieren in dem Sinn keine Bitcoins, sondern nur Transaktionen.

Wenn du 2 BTC hast, hast du Transaktionen von 2 BTC bekommen. -->Unspend Outputs

Transaktionen kann der Client auch immer komplett nutzen um neue Transaktionen zu machen.

Einfaches Beispiel:

Du hast 2 BTC bekommen. 1 an Adresse A und einen an Adresse B.

Jetzt überweist du 1.5 BTC an Adresse C. Dein Cliend hat 2 Transaktionen von 1 BTC zur Verfügung(-->Unspend Outputs). Also Kreiert er eine neue Transaktion über 2 BTC von Adresse A und B (-->gemeinsamer Input) an Adresse C (1.5 BTC) und Adresse D (0.5 BTC, wieder deine Adresse -->Change Adresse).

A und B haben jetzt eine Adressgruppe gebildet und wenn man C als Change Adresse auch dir zuordnen kann kennt man schon 3 Adressen.


Sehr vereinfachtes Beispiel und nicht unbedingt zu 100% korrekt.
3254  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Garr's Game -- Possible gain of 7% ROI weekly! -- "Honest Ponzi" on: November 11, 2012, 08:55:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
"A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation."

A hones ponzi is a contradiction.

...

I'm confused.
3255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Still think Agenda 21 is a crazy conspiracy theory ? on: November 11, 2012, 08:47:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

Strange commercial.

Have edited my post, at first I thought this was for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_2010, didn't even know about this agenda 21
3256  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: petition the ISO for official BTC symbol on change.org! on: November 11, 2012, 10:54:59 AM
Signed.

That wasn't even 30 seconds effort. come on community. Let's do this.
3257  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why arent we spending our BTC? on: November 10, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
most people are still hoping that another bubble will happen and they can sell out for large sums of fiat currency. these are exciting times for bitcoin(though to me it's been exciting since its conception), with the block reward halving and the potential release for asic hardware, most folks holding 'coin are doing so because they have a "i'll wait and see" attitude; this is the wrong approach in my opinion.

people should be spending BTC on things they would normally pay for with fiat, and then use fiat to buy back the BTC they spent, period. this is the only 'savings' approach that is helpful to the bitcoin economy, and keeps bitcoins in your wallet simultaneously.

That's exactly what I'm doing and IMO the best and easiest way to support bitcoin. Every time I want something I look if I can get it with BTC and only if I can't get it I use Fiat.

When I bought something with BTC I buy the spend amount of BTC back. This way you BTC savings stay constant you can buy things with BTC and don't need to care about the current price.
3258  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Bitcoin Cemetery (In Memoriam) on: November 10, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
I don't know all of them. And I think newbies will know none of them.

This can become a nice thread to look into in a view years.

Would be nice to add names, and a link to a thread where you can see who this person was.
3259  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin newbie on: November 09, 2012, 09:14:05 PM
It's being read by so many people, because a thread named "Bitcoin newbie" usually is a Bitcoin Newbie having a problem or a question.

So if you have one, you see there are a lot of people who like to help   Smiley
3260  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-09 Linex Legal - Can you actually own the Sword of Azeroth? on: November 09, 2012, 09:10:24 PM
Thank you.
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