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3241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you manage greed to place your bet on: October 04, 2023, 04:28:17 AM
Well, I have a saying when I play gambling, or, let's say, a mindset: "Profit is a profit; it doesn't matter how big or small it is as long as I win, not lose." This phrase serves as my limiter or boundary when I gamble. why? so that I don't feel what you feel, like having regret for not raising your stake or blaming yourself for not putting in a much higher amount, because it could be greed, you never get contented, and the result could be bad, like betting more and increasing the amount, then suddenly you lose, then you lose more than what you get from winning. In short, don't be greedy, be happy. What you earn is a win no matter what amount it is as long as you don't lose any money, period.
Indeed, profit is profit. As long as we don't lose, we have won. But what often happens is that we experience loss first before winning. If we compare the number of losses with wins, the number of losses will be greater than the number of wins. And that's what makes gamblers continue to gamble because they want to win more. But it won't be easy because they will only experience loss after the next round without experiencing a single win. But if they can feel satisfied with what they have and are not chasing bigger wins, they have had enough gambling and should be able to stop as soon as possible. If they decide to bet more, they may not win but will only lose more. And then, they might increase their bet without thinking they have been gambling long enough. If they couldn't overcome their greed, they would only suffer another loss, making it difficult to recover from their losses.
3242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Ever Made Such Mistake Before, But Won still? on: October 04, 2023, 04:09:29 AM
I never got a win because of the mistakes I made. Everyone lost because of my own mistakes. You are really lucky to be able to win without realizing that it was an unintentional mistake. And that rarely happens to many gamblers because when we make mistakes, we often lose.

Hopefully, that will happen to me so I can win some money like you. But it looks like it won't be easy for me, especially since I rarely get luck in gambling. Well, who knows...
3243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: October 04, 2023, 03:46:19 AM
In general, studies of all kinds of addictions, including addictions such as alcoholism, show that women become alcoholics much faster than men if they are placed in approximately the same living conditions.  This is probably a natural characteristic of the female body and ffemale psyche.  For the same reason, I would suggest that. in addiction to gambling and the transition of this addiction or hobby into a real addiction to gambling, which can safely be considered a disease, occurs faster in women than in male gamblers.  I made this conclusion by analogy with alcohol addiction, but of course I am not sure that this pattern holds true in the case of gambling addjiction.
Maybe the pattern can be used in cases of gambling addiction. Still, we also have to know that other factors can cause someone to become addicted to gambling, such as playing gambling continuously, not having control over the use of money, having thoughts about making money from gambling, and others. Maybe men have a chance of becoming addicted to gambling more quickly than women, but men and women have the same chance of becoming addicted to gambling. When they want to stop gambling, there must be a desire from within so that they can think that there are other things they can do and not gamble continuously. By trying to do small things that can enable them to change or reduce their gambling addiction and if they can do this continuously without stopping, they will see that they can stop gambling sooner or later.
3244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: October 04, 2023, 03:15:59 AM
When setting aside a gambling budget, you can also set it aside on a monthly basis. So, for example, you set aside 1 tenth of your salary to spend on gambling per month. Let this money be 100 dollars for example. By analyzing certain matches in your head, you can prepare coupons of 25 dollars each week that you can call exactly banko. This way, you won't lose or spend your gambling money in a day or a week. This will become a more regular and more stable program for you. If you are playing with a certain budget, as long as you violate this limit, you may start to lose the money you have set aside as savings in order to recover.
By setting aside a little money from our salary, we can use it to gamble and to learn to control ourselves because gambling can make us forget ourselves and it is difficult to control how we use the money if we don't learn from now. These are ways to treat gambling properly. But we have to be really strict with the budget for gambling so that we gamble excessively and can control ourselves in gambling. We also have to maintain the boundaries we have set and not try to gamble once if we no longer have time to gamble.
3245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: October 04, 2023, 02:45:53 AM
That's not hard to do if you're a kind of gambler who is not easily tempted to use the money to play regardless of where it came from (either from deposit or winnings from the said platform). But usually, if we have funds on our account, we tend to use it to play our favorite gambling games. This is also the reason why it is not advisable to deposit money on your gambling account just for the purpose of saving.

In addition, casinos often have a wagering requirement before you can withdraw your initial deposit so it's not really a good idea to store your funds on gambling platform.
The problem is that if the temptation gets stronger, it can make us try the money in our gambling account to gamble so that we won't realize that we have used the money. If it is for saving, we have to separate the coins we will use for gambling from the coins we will save. This is to avoid excessive use of coins in gambling because we often forget the goal we created.

It is clear that it is better to save coins for investment elsewhere than save them in a gambling account. We must be able to have other storage places to make it safer.

It would be better not to set aside any amount on a gambling site, even if it is only a small amount to gamble the next day. It would be better to deposit enough to gamble and if there is some left over, it would be better to withdraw it to a personal wallet which will be safer. online sites are always vulnerable to hacking of any kind so even if the amount is small if it is lost it would be a shame.
but everyone has different opinions and if you have a method like you say, its better to be careful, sometimes you will definitely forget to withdraw all the funds you have.
That's what I've always done all this time. Setting aside a small amount of money in preparation for gambling another day is what we need to do so as not to deposit more money. Apart from that, having a little money in a gambling account can allow us to gamble whenever we want and don't have to wait for the transaction process to complete. Meanwhile, sending another amount of money to another wallet will provide us with security from hacking or other bad things so that we can be calmer and not worry about anything.

We can only advise those who want to separate money for gambling and saving. Then they will decide because it is their money.
3246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble till old age or not on: October 03, 2023, 02:12:07 PM
I will stop when I want but I don't know when I will stop. Maybe soon or a long time ago, I don't know. I still love gambling as before and have no plans to stop. During this time, I can still be responsible in gambling and not try to chase victory because I know it will be difficult for me. To reduce his gambling activities, I try to use other activities to distract myself, which works for me. So as long as I still enjoy gambling, I will probably still gamble and when the time comes, I will stop gambling and do other activities.
3247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Educate yourself to be a frugal gambler on: October 03, 2023, 12:31:51 PM
Gambling is for fun and not to make money. Gamblers should know this and not try hard to win the gambling. If more gamblers knew about this, perhaps cases of gambling addiction could decrease and not be so worrying. This requires awareness from each gambler, especially those who still gamble too often, to immediately reduce their gambling activities so they don't experience problems later. Only self-awareness can help them avoid gambling addiction and enjoy gambling as entertainment. People need to have a gambling budget so that they don't exceed their limits so that they don't lose a lot of money in gambling.
3248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: October 03, 2023, 12:04:14 PM
Gambling is a game that has an addictive effect. Most people who have joined gambling sites will find it difficult to get out of the gambling circle. It doesn't matter how much you lose at gambling, as long as we still have money, we will continue to gamble
That's right, at first I was also trapped in gambling games because it was difficult to control myself and of course it was difficult to get out, if I still had money I would keep gambling until it ran out. But this was before, now I can control myself when I gamble and can control my money, when should I play, when should I stop. This is what we must have before playing gambling, namely being able to control ourselves and not be greedy. Without it you will be stuck in it.
It is not surprising that we have been trapped in gambling at the beginning we know gambling. It seems like there have been many novice gamblers who felt it, including me at the beginning when I played gambling. But it depends on the novice gambler because if he can realize it, he will learn to control himself before everything becomes worse. He will not let himself be trapped deeper in gambling so he will try not to gamble more often. Only by controlling himself he can not experience gambling addiction and keep gambling with good self-control.
3249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Before you take sides on: October 03, 2023, 11:37:45 AM
We will not know whether the story is original or fake but it is clear, we only know that the casino as the business owner will not like it if there is a gambler who managed to win a lot of money. Casinos might not give them anything because the gambler can win it easily because of his luck. And that is normal because the casino wants to protect its business and avoid great losses. Besides, we can't do anything if the casino finally decides like that and only the rules. Indeed, the casino still allows us to play but we already feel uncomfortable playing gambling in Kasinon. And if that has happened, we can move to other casinos that can provide comfort in playing gambling.
3250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you manage greed to place your bet on: October 03, 2023, 11:04:43 AM
I have never placed a bet higher than I can afford. I have experienced more losses because I placed higher amounts than usual. That resulted in less money in my gambling account and I couldn't use it for a week because I had to deposit some more money. And it also made my plans to save some money fall through because I increased the value of the bet on one match.

Since then, I have tried to keep within my limits and not place more bets than usual even if my mind tells me I can win. I don't blame myself because I can't bet higher than usual. After all, there is a factor that I will lose. So I'd better place a bet as usual and not exceed that bet.
3251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: October 03, 2023, 10:34:04 AM
Yep that's right, oversized gambling only relies on luck or hockey, as good or smart as you are in gambling games most likely can't beat the smart casino machines or slots that have been set up in it, the winnings they get are only because they are lucky. and also many people believe in tricks or patterns to get a win even though it's just an advertisement or marketing for gambling admins to make players more excited to get a big win.

And some people who play gambling cannot control their emotions in playing, they are thirsty for a high sense of victory so they can just spend a large budget to play without realizing they have entered into a casino trap that is unlikely to give them a big win that they can only get a small win that is not much. big or small they bet it will have the same bad impact on them, it's just that if they bet with a small nominal it will only slow down their defeat, and vice versa if they play with a large bet it will make them thirsty for victory, and I remind you again this is only about luck not about the great or tricks they have.
It's hard to beat the casinos because it's their business and we're just players who want to make a little profit from them. Especially if we play slot games that really rely on luck, we can never get big wins like big multipliers. That will probably only come to really lucky gamblers. We can only try to play as usual and not chase win because that will be difficult for us. One day, we will be lucky enough to get a big multiplier, which means we get a big win.

If they cannot control their emotions and become more eager to win, it will only accelerate their loss of money. They can increase the amount of their bets because by placing big bets, they can win a lot of money. But that's not how it happened because it only accelerated his loss. And it's best for those who want to gamble to start by betting an amount they can afford so that if they lose, the loss won't be big and they won't regret it too deeply. That's why when gambling, we must remember to only gamble with money we can afford.
3252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Practices for Staying Safe When Gambling on: October 03, 2023, 10:00:25 AM
Of course, responsible gamblers don't really pursue the ambition to win at gambling, they use gambling only for entertainment, and yes, responsible gamblers can always set their limits when gambling so that they don't experience too many losses.

It is difficult for someone who is addicted to gambling to do this because they always try to win at gambling even if the result is nil they will continue to try until their balance runs out. This is very detrimental to oneself because they cannot create boundaries and cannot control themselves If the person doing this is already have a family it is very possible that it will have a negative impact on their financial condition.
It's better if we can also do it so that we won't use gambling to make money and just for entertainment. Being a responsible gambler can control himself in overcoming his losses so that he will not try to recover his losses but immediately leave gambling so as not to experience more losses.

A person who is addicted to gambling will not pay attention to his self-control because he is trying to win. He often experienced defeat but did not try to reduce the loss because he thought he still had a chance to win in the next round. But that won't always happen because he won't be able to easily win at gambling.

It is true that those who can control themselves and practice responsible gambling will never run after losing a bet to recover that money. I have seen a bettor who if he loses a bet he stops playing for the day but if he wins he will bet within a limit. When I questioned him one day he said that his luck was going to be bad for that day so he stopped his gambling for that day. But if there was an addicted gambler, he would certainly continue his game as long as he had money. An addicted gambler thinks that today may be his last day, forgetting that tomorrow may come again.
He can see the situation while he is gambling so he can decide to stop gambling when he loses. We can imitate this kind of thinking so that we don't experience more defeats. Apart from that, if we try to recover from losses, it does not guarantee that we can win easily, especially if we have experienced many losses. But when we win, we don't need to continue gambling but just stop because the next round won't guarantee we can win again. If everything is done well, it will not give us any difficulties. The same goes for gambling. If we can use gambling well and not gamble excessively, we can enjoy gambling as entertainment.
3253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Behaviours of gamblers you dislike. on: October 03, 2023, 09:30:46 AM
IMO I think it is better to use money gotten from gambling to gamble and not to rely on salary to be used for betting. Most people who do that keep refilling their bankroll from their salary, then the person is not really making profit and should stop gambling. Instead of falling back to your salary before you gamble it is almost like you are not in profit gambling because you are going to over step into your finance, or you make a strict budget from your salary if you have to deep into it but a very little amount and you need self control to not to always run back to it when you have exhausted your budget.
We should do as you say but the problem is that many people allocate a certain amount of money from their salary for betting. It's okay as long as they can control themselves and don't deposit money again when they lose that day. It would be even better if they could allocate a certain amount of money for betting so that it would not disturb their finances and exceed their limits in gambling. We have to control the use of money, whether it's money from our salary or money we get from gambling so that we don't gamble excessively to reduce losses in gambling.
3254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: October 03, 2023, 08:53:11 AM
We should not save large amounts of money on any gambling platform and I recommend withdrawing the balance to prevent something unexpected from happening on the gambling platform, if we have a high balance on gambling it will affect gambling on higher bets, because we think we have spare money to recover losses but actually bad choices that increase the risk of high losses on your balance. I rarely leave large balances on exchanges and gambling because I worry about making mistakes, so it's better to leave some money that I can afford to lose for gambling needs.
We only need to set aside enough money in a gambling account, especially if the money is for gambling the next day, so we don't need to deposit any other money. For the most part, we can withdraw the money and send it to another personal wallet to prevent anything unexpected on the gambling platform so that we won't lose the money, especially if it is winning money we have previously received. That's to prevent bad things because we don't know what will happen later. We can only try to prevent everything and that is for our good too. And if we only leave enough money in our gambling account, it will reduce the risk of bad things that could happen.
3255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: October 03, 2023, 08:27:38 AM
People are looking for amusement and socialization at home during the pandemic. Casinos and other online venues have given many that room. I know - its simple and entertaining during these difficult times.

These internet venues are fun and accessible, but they must be handled responsibly. More people playing online gambling may exacerbate gambling addiction. Although online gambling games are thrilling and entertaining, limits must be imposed.

Online casinos are one of several methods to relax. Keep it that way and avoid future issues.
Yes, it looks simple but it provides entertainment for people who can't go anywhere. They can remain at home while waiting for further notification from their respective governments. But it turns out playing gambling from home is more fun because they can do other things while they do it. But most of them cannot be responsible for what they do while gambling, so many of them experience gambling addiction. They also didn't think they could experience a gambling addiction like that even though they felt they didn't gamble too often and it was still within normal limits.

And online casinos can survive and provide services to people who are at home and can't go anywhere. But we also have to try to be responsible if we want to play online gambling because it can make us addicted to gambling without realizing it. Moreover, now many casinos have returned to being non-public so we can visit offline casinos like before.
3256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: October 03, 2023, 07:56:13 AM
Well it's possible if, I agree a little bit with this expression of yours. It is true that there must be some of them people in our neighborhood who assume that gamblers are people they should avoid or stay away from because it will be able to have a negative impact on them, it makes sense to digest, especially if the people around them are very sensitive so it is true that with that then the addicted gamblers will definitely close or will not know anyone that they have a gambling addiction, although maybe they have no bad intentions to harm others but still people's perceptions must be different - different. Of course that's the main reason why people like them don't admit their bad habits, besides not wanting to be shunned by their friends they also don't want others to have a bad opinion of them.

Yes but it depends on their own personality as addicts, if indeed they don't care about anything including bad words from others then maybe they could tell people, but I think that's unlikely, I mean it's unlikely that those who are addicted to gambling will suddenly tell others about their bad habits if they are not in an urgent situation, I think like that.
Well, we will never know that that will happen in our environment. But for people out there, maybe the environment will not be able to accept someone who gambles frequently, especially since they have read and heard and even watched what the consequences are if someone gambles too often and what impact it has on that person. That is a possible reason gamblers hide their gambling activities from other people because they don't want to get a bad response from other people. And that is normal for him because he can gamble more freely without bad words from the people around him. And as long as he can be responsible for gambling, he will have no problem hiding his gambling activities.

If he is not responsible for his gambling activities, it will only cause problems for them because they could immediately get negative statements from the people around him, especially if he doesn't care about anything and only focuses on his gambling activities. And people who are addicted to gambling will get deeper into gambling without being able to get out of gambling.

I don't see it as a shameful act if someone tells another their weakness and seeks help. Unless the gambler sought help from the wrong person, I don't see how this should be difficult, which is a good reason to only keep good people around you. It's heroic to me for anyone to fight their minds and admit their weakness to seek external help. Anyone with the right senses will rather find ways to help such and not mock them. Everyone has their weaknesses, they are only of different measures, and when one determined to change, any good person should be ready to help.

This is why gambler has to get help from the people they can trust, gambling is not entirely a bad thing, it's the going astray part by some people that is bad. This is a psychological matter and a bit of  encouragement in fighting it will also go a long way in helping the person.
Not everyone wants to do it. But to tell other people, they have to find the right person to keep their secret well and help them solve their problems. And if the problem is gambling addiction, they must be able to solve it together or ask for help from other people to help solve it. People who are addicted to gambling and want to cure their gambling addiction and ask for help from the people around them must be helped because they already intend to recover from their gambling addiction.

And if there are people who can really help him get out of his gambling addiction, they will have a chance to truly recover from his gambling addiction because he will get the best help from the people around him. But if not, they will return to gambling, which will be difficult to heal because he has failed.
3257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Credit card gambling fuels gambling addiction on: October 03, 2023, 07:23:29 AM
Sometimes the convenience provided by credit cards can be a disaster for those who do not understand good financial management, especially in the case of using credit cards for gambling. Using credit cards for gambling can be much worse because besides users increasing debt by using credit cards, they also use them for something unproductive which can disrupt their finances. Credit card companies should prohibit the use of credit cards on gambling platforms, but it is a shame that they do not care about such things.
Most people who use credit cards want to show off to the people around them and show that they can pay for whatever they want by swiping their credit cards. But they will be confused about paying their bills at the end of the month because they have made a lot of purchases. If they can calculate their credit card usage and still be able to pay bills that are not too large, they can still use the credit card. But if not, they have to think twice about continuing to use their credit card or cutting it up and being free from credit card bills. We must be able to anticipate using credit cards for gambling because it is not feasible. Even though we have a large salary, we still can gamble with a lot of money.
3258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: October 03, 2023, 06:58:17 AM
Yes, you are right to look for another job or look for a place to generate income somewhere other than gambling because it will not be possible for a casino or gambling to provide profits every day unless you become an influencer or look for other ways like those in other thread using referrals to make a profit and with referrals a person does not need to spend large amounts of capital to be able to get flowing profits.
For someone who is always attracted by the promotions given by casinos, it would be better to remember how casinos work and take the time to remember how difficult the terms of these promotions are so that someone will stop thinking about or be attracted by any promotions offered by gambling.
That's what we have to do if we want to generate income because by relying on gambling, it is unlikely that we will make money and lose it instead. If that happens, we can't do anything and it will be difficult to recover the losses because it is gambling that we cannot predict. Even though they try to become influencers, they cannot immediately succeed, especially if they don't have a lot of followers. They have to work hard to have a large following and make lots of videos to convince their followers to follow what they are doing. They also won't necessarily be able to make money by spreading their referral link because it depends on how the video they make is and how the people who watch the video respond.

true, gambling is an entertainment only and don't make it as passive income to generate earn profit every day, we need change all gambler mindset leaving their activities or job for spending with gambling to be their passive income. There are not any company of gambling platform give profitable for gambler or their user, actually they will take as much money from your deposit and make gambling as entertainment only for spending your stress from working. If have smart promotion and stable earned from commission seems potential to make passive income but difficult with huge referral want to follow with our link promotion.
If they already know that the casino will take all the money, they should be able to think that what they are doing is wrong and should not try hard to make money from gambling. It is better for them to make money through other more promising ways because using gambling it will not work easily. They have to spend a lot of money, which may result in small wins. They can indeed make money from referral links but still have to work hard to spread the links, which takes time too. Many people have failed to spread their referral links and quit before they even start working hard. But if they can find work from other things, it might be more promising and they can make money from those things.
3259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When the fun stops on: October 02, 2023, 11:26:05 AM
If something like that or that mindset happens to them then I honestly can't imagine what negative things will happen to them next. The fact is that no matter how much you get money from gambling it will not last long friends, gradually all the money you will deposit again at the casino when you have run out of everything, I have a colleague at the beginning of gambling he always won until the amount was very large and until he could buy a vehicle and gradually when luck was not on his side anymore then all the items he had he sold back for gambling capital and finally until his own house was sold. Now this is what is scared so if you have managed to get a win don't be happy first because it's all unfinished, luck will not always be on your side so it is very possible that one day everything you originally got will run out again. So use a healthy mindset in gambling, even though you win but still you have to think realistically in looking at gambling, being a wise and responsible gambler is better, because if you put a little hope and greed, you will definitely end up going down over time. The fun is only temporary and the fear is when you think that this is a place to make money, I think avoid at all costs.
It has happened to some gamblers that when they win from gambling, they will use the money to gamble again in the hope that they can win an even bigger amount of money. And there is a possibility that all the winnings will be used for gambling when he no longer has the budget for gambling that he has prepared beforehand. He can even sell the items he buys from gambling to have money that can later be used for gambling. But if he can think of having a business that he will manage and develop, maybe he can focus more on working on his business rather than gambling so that his winnings can be channeled into useful things. Or he could be a wise gambler who does not rely on gambling to make money so he will return to gambling when he wants it.

Well and the only solution is just to bring a more rational mindset there, even though you have managed to win but I say it is not a real victory but it is very likely that it is the beginning of the trap that will befall you, when they have got luck then it is very likely that their minds will definitely be happy extraordinary and indirectly true it will be very able to change their mindset slowly. Oh yes, I see that usually new gamblers who come like to be given the win first, the casino is very smart to place traps. And after that, they will think that this place can be used as a solution to multiply their money, and well then they will definitely bring more money in the hope that the victory will also be bigger than before, and that's where their destruction begins,
defeat will always dominate, there is no more victory like before and for those who always overthink and cannot control at all, they will definitely end up in a slump.
If someone can win from gambling, he can immediately stop gambling, take his winnings home, and enjoy his winnings. But what happens is that many gamblers forget to stop gambling and instead decide to continue gambling because they want a bigger win. That's what every gambler must be aware of because it means their greed has grown and they must realize it so they stop immediately. Otherwise, they will only be lured into gambling again and use their winnings. If gamblers are not aware, they will be lured into continuing to play and that is where their destruction will come. Very few will be able to win again while others will only experience many losses.
3260  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: October 02, 2023, 11:04:46 AM
If I don't have money, I won't force myself to gamble so that it doesn't become a burden in my life when I lose, but if I want to play then I will only put in a little of my money. for entertainment when I'm tired in my spare time. And that will make us happy and avoid risks later. So don't force us to gamble when we don't have money, because if we force it then bad things will happen that we will immediately realize and regret.
That is a good thought because we can know our abilities in gambling so that we will not force ourselves to gamble when we don't have money. That's better because we can avoid the tendency to gamble even though we don't have money. And when we have money, we will not immediately spend it on gambling because we have other things or life needs that must be met. The important thing is that we already know that gambling is entertainment and no one will force us to gamble so it will be up to us when we gamble. And if we can realize that there is no need to gamble if we don't have enough money, we can avoid losing from that gambling.
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