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3261  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 06, 2021, 10:59:16 PM
  • PT Indodax Nasional Indonesia,
Pertama kali kenal exchangeIndonesia dan daftar ya Indodax ini.
Bahkan dulu ketika awal-awal belum tahu jika ada partner Indodax untuk WD, saya selalu melakukan penarikan langsung dengan fee WD 25rb.
Tapi untungnya di Indodax ini ada beberapa partner untuk WD dengan lebih mudah dan murah, cepat lagi prosesnya.
Kalau awal-awal memang sangat nyaman di Indodax, sudah terbiasa juga dengan pair IDR dan banyaknya koin yang ada di sana.

  • PT Crypto Indonesia Berkat (Tokocrypto),
Namun sejak tahun 2020, pada saat keluar berita Binance berinvestasi di Tokocrypto dan Tokocrypto itu sendiri menggunakan Binance cloud, saya tertarik untuk mencobanya.
Saat itu agak khawatir karena banyak yang mengeluh susah melakukan verifikasi KYC, namun pas saya coba syukurnya ternyata cepat, kurang dari 5 menit sudah langsung ACC.
Pada awalnya biasa saja karena jumlah koinnya juga cuma sedikit,apalagi pair BIDR sangat sepi.
Namun seiring perjalanan, perkembangan mereka saya akui sangat cepat, banyak fitur-fitur baru di sana, dan lebih banyak koin lagi, setidaknya mengikuti Binance (walau belum bisa dianggap persis Binance sih). Fee WD juga sangat murah, flat 5.500. Terlebih setelah ada program referral berhadiah TKO dulu, luar biasa sih dapat lumayan TKO saat itu yang harganya ternyata di atas ekspektasi awal-awal as prorgam referal (yang dikira hanya 1rbuan, ternyata lebih dari ekspektasi).
Sejak itu lebih sering nongkrong di Tokocrypto dan mulai nyaman di sana.
Dan akhirnyakarena waktu yang lumayan terbatas juga, jadi untuk sekarang saya lebih fokus ke Tokocrypto sih, di Indodax cuma tinggal sedikit asetnya dan itu juga sudah tidak ditradingkan lagi.
3262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Most performing altcoin for October on: October 06, 2021, 10:44:14 PM
This is a good beginning in October, the market is likely recovering. But still, watch out because we cannot predict exactly what will happen a few hours later.
Bitcoin itself has reached $55,367.88 as the highest price during 24 hours today. That is awesome with that increase followed by most altcoins.
I personally believe that if Bitcoin can stay over $50k in a week later and breaks again higher price, most altcoins will also pump up again.
I am waiting for this fourth quarter where many people predict the bullish trend.
Once again, still, be careful with every probability in the future. Stay calm and don't panic
3263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you want to see Bitcoin legal in your country? on: October 06, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
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Bitcoin (and cryptocurrency) is LEGAL in my country, as a commodity asset, to trade or invest.
But, cryptocurrency is still not legal as a currency in my country.
Moreover, the government said that crypto will not be legal as a currency in my country even 10 years later. Because we have our official currency and it is based on the law and regulation. They said that crypto is difficult to regulate and we cannot regulate, control it, and also has some risks if using them as a legal currency.
Well, whatever it is, that's no problem for me personally.
As long as they legalize Bitcoin and all cryptos even only as commodity assets, we can still enjoy crypto, by trading or investing in them. And I can also find several legal exchanges in my country under the country's regulation and laws.
3264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice for fun or profits on: October 06, 2021, 10:32:00 PM
Let us admit that even if it is only dice game, deep inside we want to have some profits.
But in my experience, I usually stop when I am out of funds or already spent my quota for the day.
That means, I usually am not on the winning side. Because if we talk about dice, you can hardly get your profits here, unless, you know when to stop after you got some winnings.
Everyone wants money and this is very realistic and logical if our first intention is about getting profits or earning money from dice.
And about when to stop, exactly, we must have good fund management. Dice is sometimes very addicting and that is why we must control ourselves to know when to start and when to stop or pause. Money management in gambling whatever it is will be very important in order to manage the loss and also winning in Dice and all gambling types.
3265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice for fun or profits on: October 05, 2021, 10:17:45 PM
The first thing is about to have profits of course, for me, It doesn't deny if I expect victory and profits when playing gambling, it's my main goal. And when we get victory and profits, it will make us have fun, right?
And if we turn out to lose, don't feel excessive stress, let's just say just for fun at that time, especially if it's just a little betting or with a small amount.
However, to please, my focus will be on Profits again, not only just fun but profits for more funs.  Cheesy Grin
3266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't trade using instinct on: October 05, 2021, 10:13:57 PM
You have good title,
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Don't trade using instinct
Because trading with only instict means gambling at all and you only rely on luck in the future.

But after reading your content of the thread, well, potential altcoins in the future?
If you have stated the title, I am sure that you must have also your own analysis on the coins that have strong and increasing fundamentals. Altcoins will be much better if they have real progress of the roadmap in the future, string fundamentals, and team, and also the market volume and market cap.
You may get various answers from all members here and you will be consumed again. And the last choice is by analyzing them again.
If you want the potential coins for future, top coins will be the safer enough than the new coins
3267  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How a beginner can earn money from the crypto? on: October 05, 2021, 10:07:01 PM
If you are a beginner and know nothing about the crypto world, I will suggest you learn at first, learn many things in the crypto world.
The Crypto world will give you many more again after you know more about crypto.
Many people only have a focus on earning money but they are not willing to learn more, so sad.
I know that what you meant is about joining any airdrop program. Actually, there are some projects that offer airdrop programs, there are also bounty campaigns, faucets, and also other free programs like a referral.
But, we still don't know the accurate information of every project, they are commonly new and you must also learn about how to pick the right one and avoid scams. Because in the crypto world, you may find many scams and you must be careful about it.
3268  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The joy of trading the spot market on: October 05, 2021, 09:59:53 PM
I just started trading not that long now and I don't know why people doesn't always talk about Spot trading and how less risky it can be when compared to Future trading.
For beginners and also less risk-taker, SPot trading is the best choice. This is safer enough (although we cannot guarantee the safe). There is still a risk of losing if we panic after the price drop and sell them off. But at least, we can still have a chance to hold to the higher price and set it at any targeted price.
Well yeah different from future trading, we may get higher profits by setting higher margins and leverage. We may also lose our money if the price drops very highly.
Most future traders are someone who has been very common to trade future, they are high risk-takers, and also they have known the exact ways of setting up their trading. Setting up CL, analyzing the chart every time, and also other things to watch and analyze always.
If we are new to future trading, we may learn from the small balance of margin and leverage, at least, we don't need to risk more in this risky trading.
But everybody has their own choice, many people are still trading in future trading and they are successful. And many people also trade in spot and they are successful. So, be yours with your own ability, risk management, and also fund management.
3269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if stop believing about bitcoin ? on: October 05, 2021, 09:54:16 PM
Bitcoin has no physical presence. What if we just stop believing in bitcoin. I mean every country has the equivalent of gold to their fiat. Bitcoin has no gold or physical value. Can this ever happen ?
So, just leave it, no one forces you to believe in Bitcoin.
ANd let other people who believe in Bitcoin still believe in it.
And when the other people are successful because of Bitcoin, just see them and don't make any noise again.
Everybody knows that there is no physical thing of Bitcoin, different from gold.
But, no physical form doesn't mean no exists. This is the era of technology, man, just think following up the era and you will get in it.
3270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 05, 2021, 09:49:44 PM
I agree with you. The Barcelona players have lost the mentality, spirit, and confidence to play well. And it should be controlled by the coach. But coach Koeman completely failed. He is not able to restore the morale of the players, he is not able to use any stable strategy. Looking at the playing style of Barcelona, ​​it seems that they have no strategy and no goal. Thus, it is not possible to get a good performance from a team, even if there are talented players in the team.
well yeah, we also know the coach's motivation, he is also ready if to leave Barcelona, maybe he thinks about the big responsibility and risks that he must hold to hand this big team. And of course, it must be, because every Barcelona coach must be more than others, must know more also about their team spirit and soul.
Well, I know that the problem may not be only on the coach but also their team members and also the management. They have serious problems right now in everything.
And although we point the coach to be responsible enough with this, there must be also a strong unity to come up again from the team and also of course, from the inside management that probably also has another problem to fix.
But yeah, the game is no longer as interesting as a long time ago
3271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Legalized Gambling where you live..where does it stand? on: October 02, 2021, 09:53:03 PM
So I ask you, how is it coming along where you live?  Is it fully legal, coming close to being legal, or illegal with no change in sight?
Gambling is illegal in my country.
Although there are so many online gambling sites that we can find here and although there are so many gamblers, it doesn't mean that our government will legalize gambling.
Well, this is still illegal and there is regulation.
But, although it is illegal, it doesn't mean there are no gamblers here, we can find so many people playing gambling, both offline, online, playing in this country, or even playing gambling in other countries.
3272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: October 02, 2021, 09:27:07 PM
Manchester united 1 - 1 Everton

Again, an unexpected result got by Manchester United. They control the match and look very dominant, creating 6 shots on target but only made 1 goal. Sadly, the match ended with a draw result. I believe many people will blame Ole again because he didn't put CR7 and Pogba as the starter. Well, Ole should evaluate his strategy seriously. I don't know why Manchester United has experienced some bad results lately. But I think someone who must be responsible for these bad results, is Ole.
3273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 02, 2021, 09:16:52 PM
Easy win in the end for Atletico madrid as expected.
If we look at the stats, it was not really easy for Atletico. Atletico made 6 shots, 3 shots on target. While Barcelona made 9 shots, 2 shots on target. According to the stats, Barcelona was a bit better in creating the chance. But unfortunately, Barcelona strikers are very not effective in playing, they even cannot convert 1 goal.

Suarez even scored against his old club.
Suarez knows how to destroy Barcelona defenders. He was a Barcelona striker, so not surprising if Suarez can score in this match. It was too bad for Barcelona, they made a mistake by sending their goal machine to their opponent.   Roll Eyes
3274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 01, 2021, 11:54:45 PM
Because as bad as Barcelona is, Barcelona is still a big team that has quality players, there is still a chance for Barcelona to win.
No one stated Barcelona is a weak team, they are a big team. But having many quality players doesn't guarantee to play well, Barcelona players are losing the spirit, motivation, trust, and compactness in playing. This should be fixed by the coach. If they have a good coach, they won't experience it. Unfortunately, Barcelona coach has a very complicated problem with the team. So, his role seems nothing here.

it is very difficult to predict the outcome of the Atletico vs Barcelona match, my prediction is maybe the match will end in a draw.
Predicting is easy, right? How can it is difficult?
But to know the outcome or the result of the upcoming match is impossible. Except you have a future vision.  Grin
It can be a draw, but it seems Atletico Madrid to get 3 points.  Tongue
3275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING: Skill-based vs. Chance-based on: October 01, 2021, 11:37:51 PM
For me all gambling games were all risky whether it's skill-based or chance-based
Both skill-based and chance-based are risky, none of them really has no risks. All gambling games can make us lose all our money and may lead us to be addicted. It depends on how we deal with those games, choosing the right ways to play that gambling games. As long as using a proper way, I think we can be quite safe.

I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.
Yes, sports betting is one of the most favorites. Cheating? Do you think we can win sports betting by cheating? I don't know if there is a way to guarantee winning it. I assume it is a fair game, no way for cheating.

3276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are you taking the China Bitcoin Ban? on: October 01, 2021, 11:15:37 PM
Some reports telling that china government's place is second in holding Bitcoin. But we're seeing that china is always publishing negative news about crypto currency / Bitcoin. They've published noticr about banning Bitcoin in a several times.
It is not new, it has been several times news about this, why should be popular again this time when the market should be bullish?
Maybe there are some certain willingness from certain whales to rise up this issue and spread the FUD  Cheesy

What do you think about this? How are you taking this ban?
Take it easy, I know that this FUD will always give a negative impact on Bitcoin price to drop down.
That is why we don't need to panic, we know that we are sad every time looking at our dropped assets, but if we panic and do some stupid and panic sell, it will be worse.
3277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: singapore attack binance.com on: October 01, 2021, 11:09:29 PM
Actually, Binance has its solutions, besides withdrawing their assets given in one month, Binance also suggests the citizens use Binance.sg.
It is not about an attack from the Singapore government, due to the changing policy and also in order to respect the Regulated Payments Services in that country, Binance has done some evaluations about that and toke the solution.
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Users in Singapore can register for an account on Binance.sg, which is operating under the relevant exemption granted by the MAS.
Source: https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/34c6c158d03a4877a4e13cf0927468bc
Other source related to this change: https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/a38b8ee33ba847f9b91562b8709fe539

I am not sure that this will influence enough the price of BNB. They can still trade but using the platform of Binance.sg and so far, there is no significant impact on the price of BNB because of that change.

3278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: October 01, 2021, 10:42:12 PM
I am yet to understand the Mystery that happened this night.
How would football be so unpredictable?
That is the beauty of the sport world, if we knew what it will happen before it does and the favorites always won then there will not be any point in watching the games, ...... snipped
Well, actually, there are also some factors that influence a club playing well or not in the field. Sometimes, Maybe a club is considered winning on paper, with a more powerful composition of players, stronger strategy, and various lines more than the opponent's club. But in reality, in the field it is different and the club loses. This can happen because it is conducted when the game takes place. It could be that their communication is a mess because of something, greater pressure, or various conditions from the players may reduce. This can be a trigger for the team losing, not in accordance with what is expected or predicted.
Vice versa.
And prediction will be still a prediction, we don't know the future.
But, it may be known if the game is a setting and they have to know the setting of the match, whether to win or lose.
3279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Spain bans betting adds - no celebrities, no sport sponsorship, no daytime adds on: October 01, 2021, 10:35:55 PM
-snip-
It may be not easy for the government to take this decision.
But every decision must be considered and take because of some strong reasons.
We don't know exactly how the gambling cycle has been spreading in the country, how many addicted people are growing rapidly from time to time in the country.
Gambling may give big income for the country, but if it also offers bigger negative influence moreover, the country should take the certain decision.

3280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: September 30, 2021, 11:05:55 PM
Exactly man,Manchester United's coach Ole will not let Christiano Ronaldo take a penalty because he is new,and because he trusts and believes in Fernandes.Anybody can miss penalty,Fernandes is a great player that commands and demands respect.He is unarguably the best player in that team.I am sure Ole trusts him and will still give him that opportunity again to perform well,and that will be the best thing he will do as a manager.
I see it is not easy actually to take this kind of decision.
And Fernandes or everyone who takes finally kicks will have its own pressure. But, it doesn't close any chance someday or later that Ronaldo will also take a place for that kick.
Well yeah, football is not only about Ronaldo and also not only about relying on one person. That is the team.
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