Bitcoin is a religion.
Wait, what? Can I tell IRS that my Bitcoin church is tax exempt? |
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Another interesting thing was that the left-most cluster (Collectible OGs) doesn't touch theymos, starting with minerjones as the chokepoint.
Weren't they pissed at theymos and mods at some point for not banning the rainbow troll? Seems the relationship might still be strained a little bit even though he's banned now. |
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It's Binance's address. Did you send any funds to Binance? Because those bech32 (starting with bc1q) addresses in the transaction chain look like your change addresses as I said above and you seemed to confirm it... now you're claiming otherwise.
But it could be also scammer's Binance account, don't you think so? I don't think so because the funds that went to the Binance address originated from the OP's own change address and have nothing to do with MCM, real or fake. The 13 BTC is still sitting here: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA |
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It's Binance's address. Did you send any funds to Binance? Because those bech32 (starting with bc1q) addresses in the transaction chain look like your change addresses as I said above and you seemed to confirm it... now you're claiming otherwise. |
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I get it. I'm just saying I have zero sympathy for a business that puts itself into a position where the only way to make a profit is to fuck the customer. If the problem is their use of shitty third-party odds providers, or offering some illiquid markets, or whatever - that's on them for chasing profits above common sense. |
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If you do not want the moderator to move your thread to the "altcoin" section, you should think about making payments using Bitcoin or LN. The service itself is related to Bitcoin, so it should be fine. Well, apparently not, it's been moved to altcoin bounties... And it will be the cheapest campaign ever: as far as I can see there is not a single post on the Mining board from any of the participants and one of them seems to be banned. Good show. |
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Thank you, most honorable OP, for the solid proofs. I placed a buy order at $0.01 just like you advised.
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TBH I don't think multiaccounting matters outside of bonus abuse -
Sportsbooks have betting limits that can potentially be evaded via multiaccounting. Wager limits are put into place in order to reduce the likelihood that betting will become too one-sided such that the sportsbook stands to lose if there is a particular outcome. They can adjust the odds until it's no longer one-sided. |
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If you're a gambler that wants to hedge-bet why not use two or more different sportsbooks?
Ah, but that's arbitrage. And probably a violation some sort of "no professional gambling, and we decide if you're a profesional" clause in the TOS. TBH I don't think multiaccounting matters outside of bonus abuse - if you can profitably hedge your bets the site has probably screwed up the odds anyway. I believe that asking for KYC right off the bat, however is a non-starter. Most clients won't oblige a sportsbook that requests documents before deposits, and unfortunately it's most likely because they're in violation of one of the sportsbook's terms from the begging.
Great then. No ambiguity at the time of withdrawal. No more pretending that Bitcoin is anything other than a (conveniently irreversible) deposit method for those sites. And perhaps slightly less pretending that they care about their own TOS until the gambler starts winning, if they put a solid effort into actually enforcing those TOS. As it stands now, they're fine with users breaking the rules as long as it's profitable, which is not my idea of fairness. |
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I don't think it is possible for a sportsbook to be non-custodial. The outcome of sporting events cannot be cryptographically verified.
Non-custodial in this context refers to the custody of the funds, not the resolution. The resolution would still need some sort of oracle and that's fine since we're dealing with events IRL. The problem is the casino holding player funds hostage and instituting bullshit rules on top of the actual bet resolution. |
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From a gambler's POV, if the sportsbook takes your deposit and accepts your otherwise valid bet (no cheating, fixing, hacking, "pulp bets" like spyrosc200 mentioned) they should pay out. It simple, fair, relatively easy to enforce, with perhaps some gray area regarding match fixing but at least the major sports should be fine. Any TOS bullshit saying otherwise is predatory and such sites (which is like 99% of them) should be avoided. All of the multiaccounting nonsense shouldn't even exist. If you don't allow multiple accounts, KYC everyone before deposit, or at least KYC before claiming any bonuses or whatever the multiaccounting rule is supposed to prevent. If you don't allow certain countries, KYC before deposit. But of course that would be too expensive, in terms of actual KYC cost and lost revenue, so they let you deposit and play as long as you're losing.
This is a thinly veiled scam and we all go along with it because we can't live without those big flashy sites that offer us odds on SB halftime wardrobe malfunctions. When someone gets fucked over because some third party KYC verification outfit run by two guys and a goat in India rejects their passport we laugh at them here and tell them they should have read the TOS that says the very-respected-never-scammed-site has sole discretion in resolving such disputes and it is very respected so it would never scam. Might even be technically correct, it would just use KYC as an excuse to not pay out because that goes 100% to their bottom line so why not.
Unlike Steamtyme I'm just sick and tired of all this and don't think it will improve. I registered on a state-licensed fiat casino site recently. It's been fantastic. Don't know why I even put up with this pseudo-Bitcoin gambling nonsense until now. Some nostalgia dating back to just-dice and bustabit I guess; sadly that spirit clearly doesn't translate to sports betting. A properly decentralized non-custodial solution could change my mind but I have a feeling if it happens it will be on Ethereum.
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I don't get why the antivaxxer nutjobs would want to socialize with the vaccine-infected 5g-irradiated plebs anyway. It seems to me that if you think this is a worldwide conspiracy, the best course of action is to sit at home and change your tinfoil underwear twice a day.
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a troll-fest of "flatearther" proportions.
Buzzkill. This more inline with the debate I was fishing for: I'm not proposing overthrowing anyone, and I'm not advocating for war, quite the opposite. I'm wondering why these three-year-old atrocities are being dusted off and pranced around.
Wasn't there Latifa's video that was leaked recently? I wasn't following the news but I thought that was the trigger for the latest Latifa news. As for Khashoggi, the report was prepared long ago and just recently declassified by the new US administration. It shouldn't have been classified to begin with, but I doubt that Biden is itching to start a war with the Saudis... maybe squeeze them a bit with some angle on Iran or Yemen, not sure. |
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the government still has the consent of the governed, even from the women.
Right, because if they didn't they would have elected a new king or emir.  I'm sure Kim has like 99.99% consent of norks too. |
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Their people, by and large, are not oppressed by most standards
Only if you don't count women as people. |
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So... you wanna take over the guild because authority is bad?  May I suggest for your first executive order as the new guild president to consider firing the ^^^ plagiarising sockpuppeting shit bumper ^^^ who's been pretending to represent the guild in TECSHARE's absense. |
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It has not been solved, no.
You said "a mistake was made". Who made the mistake, you or MCM? That's is a big difference. Everything so far points to you making the mistake. What solution do you expect here? |
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I am quite sure it is my account.
The receiving address is the one that needs identification :/
Does anyone know how to do a OP_return script under the transaction to notify whomever the owner of this wallet address that a mistake was made?
I am unsure how it works.
So this is no longer a scam accusation? Lock the thread. And I'm quite sure that whoever got your 13 BTC is aware of it and throwing good money after bad won't fix it. |
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Ok. Can you confirm if this address belongs to MCM? bc1qaamrxr0s469970e9m9tea4d9ssa7vfd7uq9cqk
It's strange because the fees were accurately distributed to a separate address as well.
You said in the other thread that this is your transaction: Which sends to 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA and bc1qaamrxr0s469970e9m9tea4d9ssa7vfd7uq9cqk, with the latter being likely your change address, unless MCM uses some weird setup with multiple addresses of different types (I'm not familiar with the site but after a quick look I don't think that's the case). Are you sure bc1qaamrxr0s469970e9m9tea4d9ssa7vfd7uq9cqk is not your own address? |
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I couldn't agree more that the reputation and scam accusation sections should be "read only" until a user gets to about Hero Member status. There are plenty of other sections that could also do with a little bit of tightening up - either as "read only", or, as hidden until you have progressed through the ranks.
Because obviously users under hero rank never get scammed Maybe instead we should close off meta for people who haven't made at least 1000000 good reports. |
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