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3281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 11, 2018, 06:29:06 PM
Do you know how to handle Bitcoin Cash from tax perspective? Is it income or more a gift? What do you think?

No clear statement from the IRS - not like they get the last word anyhow.

I think the closest analogy in more traditional areas would be a corporate spinout - like when hewlett-packard split into HP Inc (HPQ) and Hewlett-Packard Enterprise (HPE). I'm treating it accordingly.
3282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 11, 2018, 03:09:00 PM
One of the proposed malleability fixes for BCH moves the signature out of the transaction area the exact same way as segwit

Not exact but in a similar manner. In that the signature would be divorced from the transaction data. No more so.

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with the only difference being that on BCH it's just moved permanently

Only difference? Au contraire, my undiscerning friend. The major difference is that none of the BCH malleability fix proposals seek to fundamentally undermine Bitcoin's tried and true security model.

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The only reason bitmain etc do not like segwit is that it blocks their use of covert asicboost

smh. That's just stupid. I've already stated the reasons. The so-called 'asicboost advantage' is lost in the noise. To the extent that it is actually employed, for which there is no evidence for its widespread use.

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there is a block explorer here with blocks found using overt asicboost https://asicboost.dance

Ooooh! Scaaaary! a total of.... nine blocks!

There is no evidence of covert being used maybe because it's covert and it's hidden

So... just trust you that it is widespread? Let alone a significant reason for the adoption of BCH? Sorry, no.

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Overt is new and currently only supported my the new halong miners

False and False.

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With segwit you have the option to use the same security model that Bitcoin has used for the last 9 years

Deluded much? Every segwit transaction relies on a gentlemans' handshake between the miners to interpret what is inherently an anyonecanspend transaction as anything other than an anyonecanspend transaction. Strike number one. Further, segwit removes the necessity for miners to validate all signatures in blocks they build atop in order to make an otherwise-valid block. Strike number two. Further yet, segwit removes the incentive for miners to check the validity of signatures, as that would consume time they might more profitably be spending mining. Strike three - you're out.

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but with one of the proposed BCH fixes this would completely change the security model for a new system and you would not be able to use the one Bitcoin has used for the last 9 years

Tell me which proposed BCH 'fix' and in what manner it changes the Bitcoin security model.
3283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 11, 2018, 02:43:12 PM
<...blah blah blah...>

you're a fucking troll paid

Perhaps part of our esteemed Dr. Back's 'large teams', albeit on the weaker end of the scale.



https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/943876564856348673
3284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 11, 2018, 02:32:48 PM
One of the proposed malleability fixes for BCH moves the signature out of the transaction area the exact same way as segwit

Not exact but in a similar manner. In that the signature would be divorced from the transaction data. No more so.

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with the only difference being that on BCH it's just moved permanently

Only difference? Au contraire, my undiscerning friend. The major difference is that none of the BCH malleability fix proposals seek to fundamentally undermine Bitcoin's tried and true security model.

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The only reason bitmain etc do not like segwit is that it blocks their use of covert asicboost

smh. That's just stupid. I've already stated the reasons. The so-called 'asicboost advantage' is lost in the noise. To the extent that it is actually employed, for which there is no evidence for its widespread use.

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there is a block explorer here with blocks found using overt asicboost https://asicboost.dance

Ooooh! Scaaaary! a total of.... nine blocks!
3285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 11, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
Ok you answer in your own words since the other two obviously don't have a valid reason and decided to just ignore this question but are happy to respond to everything else

Nonsense. I've made my opinion clear numerous times. Didn't seem worthwhile to go through it yet again.

In a nutshell, The SegWit Omnibus Changeset is about the worst imaginable solution to a nonexistent problem.

Malleability is fully understood and is not a pain point.
If indeed a fix to malleability is desired (a debatable point), separating the signature from the remainder of a transaction is a worthwhile candidate for consideration.
But the gyrations required to make this a (*ahem!*) so-called 'soft fork' has fundamentally undermined the entire security model of the system.
That's not even starting with the cruft other than segwit which was bundled into The SegWit Omnibus Changeset.

Ultimately, this entire escapade pushed back a scaling solution by two years, and has led to a premature crest of the last wave of adoption - also likely pushing back the next wave by perhaps two years. Hopefully, this black period does not provide a big enough opening for the vampire squid to prepare a meaningful counterattack. I have my doubts. Time will tell.

I could go on, but that will suffice for a start.
3286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 08:35:06 PM
Is a rise to 35,000 a positive in terms of an overall market.  

Yes.

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That rapid a price change seems to represent higher volatility.    

represent!? Such would by definition be higher volatility. You gotta problem with that?

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Some other thread was asking if everyone would drop BTC if it stayed at 7000 and I mentioned the obvious fact that a stable price helps contract settlement  (pricing confidence).

While true, I can't think of any situation where Bitcoin has ever been employed as the numeraire. Store of value, Medium of exchange, Unit of account. Two out of three ain't bad. Hell, it would be forward progress, should Bitcoin remain usable in commerce (i.e., should MOE not be again eliminated by high fees and uncertain settlement).

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If bitcoin goes to 35,000 why is it any better then your local house tripling in price and becoming an unavailable purchase for the younger generation in that neighbourhood.  

Completely different situation. Neither SOV, MOE, nor UOA are affected by the absolute price. If one Bitcoin is too expensive, use a mill or a mike or a satoshi.

Nobody, OTOH, has a use for a tenth of a house.

3287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
Shoulda left when I had the chance.
Peru looks like a good option - splendid hills there

It's actually quite interesting to see how they have sectioned off portions of the mountainside for different crops. A patchwork of fabric if you will.

Verily. But with this new info, unfortunately...

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...  the image is somewhat less compelling.
3288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 10, 2018, 08:13:53 PM
What makes enthusiasts of J. Random Shitcoin feel this thread is an appropriate place to shill their wares?

Begone, heathens!
3289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
Or maybe it's no trouble at all. Your claim is simply ignored because it didn't make it to the master list of scams.

Huh In a decentralized system, there can be no master list of anything. Or rather, if there is a master list, the system is by definition not decentralized.

For my part, I'm not ready to give that principle up.
3290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 10, 2018, 02:19:47 PM
I can set up a LN node and never fund it but anyone can connect to it and send funds over a LN channel

If that is even possible, it doesn't make any sense. Why would one party lock funds into a channel that their counterparty at the other end of the channel is unwilling to match? That's insane.

Almost every channel in current existence was opened one sided with whoever opened the channel commiting all funds

When it is a toy that is incapable of being funded with even enough money for a hamburger. Who is going to differentially lock up any substantial sum? You're talking about receiving your paycheck in that manner. Really? I'll believe it when I see it.
3291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 10, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
BCH is all big miners..

Well, no. As an anecdotal data point that to disprove your thesis, I have a significant investment in BCH. And I'm not a big miner. Hell, I'm not a miner at all. There are others that fit that description.

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is the original reason for the fork....

Sorry - wrong again. The original reason for the fork was to save the principles of Satoshi's Bitcoin from the cancer that is The SegWit Omnibus Changeset.

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no way they are gonna go POS coin, IMHO...

Well, I do think you are correct about that.
3292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 09, 2018, 11:12:34 PM
I can set up a LN node and never fund it but anyone can connect to it and send funds over a LN channel

If that is even possible, it doesn't make any sense. Why would one party lock funds into a channel that their counterparty at the other end of the channel is unwilling to match? That's insane.
3293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 09, 2018, 11:03:16 PM
Bitcoin ABC is Bitcoin Cash

Just no. SMH.

Bitcoin Cash is a crypto monetary system with an integral unique blockchain.

Bitcoin ABC is a client for accessing that system.
3294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 07, 2018, 07:31:15 PM

Well, that would be nice. Devoid of rationale, however, it is nothing but hope.
3295  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 07, 2018, 03:30:29 AM
Also, does anyone find it hilarious JayJuanGee's merit is higher than Elwars?  

I have found that merit is a relatively poor measure of any sort of value whatsoever. Maybe longevity coupled with persistence. Certainly not a measure of actual Merit.

Having said that, I find it somewhat disappointing that the parties I feel deserving of my stash of merit tokens, are typically folk that really have no use for them.

I am also quite disappointed in the relative merit of the apparent responses to the 'make me laugh' suggestion. That's the basis I've mostly been doling them out since the dawn of this of merit token system. But poor pandering ain't gonna do it.
3296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 07, 2018, 01:56:47 AM
Loans to buy crypto should be illegal.

Right. Let's insert the cold, hard, capricious apparatus of the state into what could otherwise be consensual behavior. /s

Some people never get it.
3297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 06, 2018, 10:29:15 PM
I don't think the Satoshi's decentralized view was to reduce the number of nodes over the time because the need of an enormous disk capacity.

I see you've not bothered to read not only satoshi's messages on the matter, but not even the white paper.

Buh-bye!
3298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 05:44:53 PM
Fud of the day :

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India Bans Bitcoin Wallets, Bank Funding, All Cryptocurrency Services

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-05/india-bans-bitcoin-wallets-bank-funding-all-cryptocurrency-services

I guess the question is whether RBI is acting of its own accord, or if it is just being the globalists' little bitch  again - like the large note demonitization incident.
3299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 02:33:27 PM
Unexpected green!

 Huh
3300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: April 05, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
It's called testing guess you wouldn't know what that is at least you get your run it and stfu HF on the 15th with your abc coin

You seem flustered, tek. You're sputtering. That's some grammatically unparseable word salad you posted there.

ABCcoin is forking on the 15th you have no choice but to run it the other "implementations" are forced to adopt any braindead changes that ABCcoin want to add now or in the future its understandable that peter rizun is a bit pissed off at the moment

If you don't like any changes that may get merged now or in the future then I guess it's tuff shit you have to either upgrade or be forced off the chain

But you won't have to worry about that because with the intention to make nodes as expensive as possible to run the ones with the money will make any braindead choices for you and you will just sit and rollover like the good lapdog you are

Well, at least that was mostly understandable English. That's better. Of course it seems you still don't know the definition of 'consensus'.
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