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3281  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - Slot machine game on: August 12, 2023, 06:55:26 PM

earn from referral 25% total bet win or loss, i got 25 % ?
If players lose 1BTC, you will get 0,25BTC

So you are just giving away 25% of what players losses
Peoples keep loosing and winning money in games
So we will get 25% In their every loss instantly or just sit and let we pray for him to lost everything
That doesn't makes sense
Can you please clearly showoff the affiate program ?
Don't know how more clearly I can explain that.

You give on your website, blog,  signature etc link https://www.crypto-games.net?i=YOURAFFILIATEACOUNT

and if someone played an lose some amount, you get 25% on your account on website. Then you can withdraw it anytime and in any wallet.

I think what Dogecoinmachine means is that the 25% rake back from losses will come from those players who registered under your affiliate links,  and not the losses of the general players on the casino,  I think to the best of my knowledge,  that is what that means,  I may be wrong anyways and I stand to be corrected if my point is a contrast to the reality of what that term means.
3282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 12, 2023, 06:36:54 PM

I never join the sports betting group because I know that no one can predict any sport with 100% accuracy. I still do not know why people want to join such groups. Either they have no knowledge about the sports they want to bet on or they do not trust their analysis when it comes to choosing the team to bet on.


Sometimes knowledge comes by experience. If you have not experienced somethings you may not have knowledge about those things. We speak on it because we have probably tasted it and experience is the best teacher like they say it. However, desperation is the major reason that people join. A gambler who is desperate for a win will be eager to join any group on the advise of the friends but after they have tasted the water, they can discuss what happens there and share knowledge on the uncertainty of the winning rate of those groups.
Being in a sport group is not an automatic sign up for their prediction services and even if you are in the group you could decide to just be a member of the group and being able to comment your own analysis of the games and also learn from the analysis of the other members of the group also.

But what I will not do is to subscribe to any service that requires me to pay a fee to get games,  and this is what many members here have kicked against since most of the predictions may be inaccurate.
3283  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: August 12, 2023, 06:33:05 PM

Of course we know that gambling on demo account is not regarded as gambling,bI think that can pass for a practice for the real substance which requires money and emotional attachment most times.

However, those who gamble just for leisure, can we really regard them as gamblers? Like if you are a gambler then you are aiming for a reward both monetary or material wise, so that is the point whether people do gamble because they have financial craving that they want to double their money or they just gamble even though they have sufficient to take care of themselves and family.
Demo accounts are not considered to be real accounts and at that, we may have diverse opinions on what class the games belong either to be categorized as gambling or just games playing,  but I think that demo accounts are not real gambling since there is nothing staked on demo.

And on the topic of whether or not playing games for pleasure could be categorized as gambling,  well to me yes gambling is gambling as far as you involved money in the form of the staked amount.
3284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: August 12, 2023, 06:01:50 PM
Now in the summer there are much fewer winnings, so I decided to suspend the game. Continue in autumn and winter  Wink
Really I thought this is the best time to gamble must especially sports betting since we are at the beginning of the season and most of the leagues have started so we have a lot of games to bet on.

But since this is a personal decision to take a break from active gambling I bet it serves you best then and enjoy your break and see you when you resume your gambling activities.
3285  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: August 12, 2023, 05:53:27 PM
I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
If we believe that such assumption can hold any argument then we will also believe that all gamblers are addicts since it the same level of assumption that make up for the misconceptions that everyone that gamble has financial needs that is why they gamble.

What about those that gamble just to while away free time or those that gamble on demo accounts that don't generate any rewards,  to me this is a big misunderstanding from the individual you mentioned here.
3286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: August 12, 2023, 04:40:18 PM
Gambling, in my opinion, is an activity that can be addicted more easily than cigarettes and similar tobacco products because gambling has become quite easy in today's conditions. Especially considering that it is very easy to gamble online there is no difficulty in gambling compared to the past. This not only helps many users access gambling more easily but also allows gambling addicts to gamble continuously. For example, if gambling was something that could only be played in physical offices or casinos many addicts would not be able to visit the place for various reasons, and they would be freed from gambling addiction.
Topics on gambling addictions have gained a lot of traction lately both here in the forum and on red its subgroups where gambling discussions are held, but the best possible measure to stop gambling addictions is through total avoidance and even a change of environments.

But it is better not to get addicted in the first place because quitting addictions are always hard to do but then if a gambler never allows themselves to get carried away with the excitement that can make them addicted in the first place.

One needs self-discipline and limited placement to be able to stay ahead of gambling addictions since accessibility to casinos has become easy and fast.
3287  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲 StarBets.io 🎲 || A Crypto-based iGaming Platform 🎲 on: August 12, 2023, 04:18:34 PM

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Congrats on adding a new game, it's always nice to see something new. I hope you will continue adding new games from time to time. I am not a "BlackJack" lover, but I tried it and it looks good... Smiley I quickly busted my USDT, and when I wanted to place the last all-in bet of $1.1 I couldn't, not enough balance. I tried with $0.5 it was the same.


blackjack is one of the most popular games among newer casino games series and this is a nice move for starbet to have added blackjack to the games collection this indeed shows that streets are readily available to make possible development that will increase the overall player's experience.

This will actually aid alot of positive experience for both the Starbet team and players who will be playing at the casino, I will try out some of the games in the coming days but not blackjack anyways.
3288  Other / Politics & Society / Re: a slap on the faces of patriotic citizens on: August 12, 2023, 01:57:32 PM
In a real and ideal situation, those who criticize government are suppose to be those allowed to show what they have to offer because it may seem that they have better idea. I said ideal because assuming the system is not corrupt, so that they can genuinely offer something positive to growth of the country but the problem is when such person get into power or government and meet bad system, they eat their words and start doing the same thing that they have criticized or they are frustrated out of the system by those who are feeding from the corrupt system.
A vast majority of the problem lies in the system and just like you have said the action of the leader is mostly controlled by the system on the ground and most problems that we think are leadership problems are actually system problems and to start with, any country that you see it government losing legitimacy from the citizens such countries have one thing in common which are faulty constitutions weak institutions.

More also a lack of national developmental goals, all of which is what gave room to bad leadership since the system could be bastardized at will.

We have both identified that there is problem in leadership and this is especially in third world countinent although some of them have tried to put their system right like South Africa. But majority of the leaders in other countries don't want to cause a change to happen rather they want to keep benefitting from a bad situation, they rig themselves into power and want to subvert the constitution yet they don't want a military rule. They are civilian government in outlook but military in process and in their minds and because they have that military mentality to subjugate, they go after every of their critics that was not able to run to asylum and put them in jail without proper and public trier.
I agree with that fact that,  third world countries are faced with a lot of challenges and they are not even ready to make any changes to improve the condition of the continent,  most African countries have similar challenges and that is because of their neo-colonizing and inability to develop a workable part that can bring African out of the overbearing challenges facing the continent,  there is no doubt that leadership have been identified as Africa biggest challenge.

And if we can get the right leaders that could figure out a way to fix the bastardized system and bring in new principles and policies that can change the face of things in Africa as a continent.
3289  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you had a time traveling machine, then? on: August 12, 2023, 01:33:28 PM



The topic is quite interesting but I think we should stop fantasizing and live for the present, live for what is happening.  the past is the past and can never be returned, the present and the future are what we need to aim for.

As for bitcoin investment, we don't need to regret what we missed because we still have a chance if we know how to seize it now.  In my opinion, the value of bitcoin is still very low compared to its real value. so if we really don't want to repeat the mistakes of the past, what we need to do is buy Bitcoin right now.
I agree with the fact that this topic will not take us anywhere in terms of knowledge and information since the topic is all about fantasy and just for fun,  so at that we can't take any information here as research material or advice in any form,  but as you know, human-like to fantasy and at that we should give them the room to speak up what their fantasies are and how best to see through those imaginations.

But there can never be a connecting point between that fantasy and reality since time and circumstances change things.
3290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Playing Slot Games On Demo/Free mode Vs Live/Paid Mode on: August 12, 2023, 01:26:46 PM

This practice is not good at all if we all must be honest with ourselves, it simply means the casino or game provider, which ever if them is involved in such a practice, should not be trusted, personally, I've always believed slot games in demo mode work like demo account in trading, which is were you learn for yourself all that there is to the game, how easy or hard it is to win in the actual game, if casinos or game providers do go into such dirty tricks all just to entice players into believing that such slot game is what its not, then they are dupes, and should not be trusted.

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It's crucial to note that there is no direct correlation between these two modes—real play and demo mode. Therefore, it's advisable to dismiss any misconceptions. Furthermore, avoiding superstitions is recommended, as these games primarily operate based on Random Number Generation (RNG).
Well, I don't completely agree that every slot games operates based on Random Number Generation, I still believe that some how, some of this games are manipulated somehow, as long as they are able to manipulate the demo version, they can still manipulate the real version as well., a lot goes on behind the scene that the eyes can't see, even though they make us believe everything is alright, and that games are completely fair.
Adjusting RTP doesn't necessarily mean that they manipulate the outcomes. It is just some sort of strategy they do. Rigged games are on different topic.
Please remember that we have provably fair games, these are considered to be the fairest games online. You can even verify the seeds of the games you played.
There's no need to be so negative towards casino operators that adjusts demo RTP.  Smiley
When discusing the topic of probably fairness of the casino games,  we must have to also take into account what makes up probably fair systems and who controls them,  since the casino is in charge of the games and their outcome,  it is then left ever in the hand and any shady casino can easily temper with the game outcome even if there don't entirely ring the game but the will possibly influence the ability of the house to always be at advantage over the gambler.

We then also talk about which games can easily be manipulated,  and at what level can the manipulation occurs,  this is what we must take into account because that will help up to arrive at a viewpoint that will further increase our information that will help in this discussion.
3291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you had a time traveling machine, then? on: August 12, 2023, 12:43:39 PM
It's a good and understandable fantasy. A relatable what-if from you. Because same, I would love to go back in the past and buy as much btc as I can. However, it is what it is, we are here now and we grew organically. All we can do now is be smart with what we have and how we are going to let what we have to grow for our future. Sadly, as much as we want to have control of our past all we can have a hand on controlling is our future by being smart in the present.
I agree with you, anything related to the past is an experience that will never be repeated and discussion of time machines is just fantasy and illusion only exists in movies, the only thing that can be taken from the past is only experience to improve market analysis in the future.

We are not too late to start everything about bitcoin from now even without a time machine because we have studied the market cycles leading up to the halving every year from the past, so make the best decision to increase the bitcoin assets in the portfolio and we will be ready for the next bullish season.

The present will be the past of the future, so we don't need a time machine to go back to the past, while now we can still correct the mistakes of the past. If we missed buying bitcoin when it was at $10 or $1,000, why don't we correct it by buying bitcoin right now and aim to sell bitcoin when it hits $1 million? But I bet many people won't do that, and they'll continue to regret the past and dream about time machines. They regret that they already knew the outcome, but when it comes to the future, they will again become fearful as they have done in the past. They refuse to buy bitcoin now and will continue to show remorse in the future.
I don't think there's any point in going back in time with a time machine.  But if it is possible to know the future, then a bright future can be created by applying it from now. We know that the future of bitcoin is very good and bitcoin may release 1 million dollars one day but we are afraid of the future because we are not guaranteed it. And because of this, we do not have confidence, but if it is possible to know the future through a time machine, then our confidence will increase.  But it is impossible to know the future somehow and it is foolish to think that the future can be known somehow
Sometimes we just have to stop thinking and just continue living,  because there is no time in life that is constant and change is inevitable so we have to celebrate only the moment and plan for the future but then also the past is past and I won't need a time travelling machine to draw my memory or experience backwards at any moment.

More also due to the many bad experiences of my past,  I rather continue in the present and anticipate a better future.
3292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: August 12, 2023, 12:39:54 PM
When you said small amount and at the same time big winning it then means this could only happen with a jackpot such as lottery and if that be it then I have to say it's possible and for some reasons, I have seen some individual who used a small amount of money to win life-changing rewards,  but the pars that seem confusing is whether or not there we're able to withdraw without going through the KYC processes.

But of a truth,  anyone who won such an amount won't have any problem going through the KYC process since that is what is required to get his payment out of the casino.
3293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: a slap on the faces of patriotic citizens on: August 11, 2023, 11:49:29 PM
In a real and ideal situation, those who criticize government are suppose to be those allowed to show what they have to offer because it may seem that they have better idea. I said ideal because assuming the system is not corrupt, so that they can genuinely offer something positive to growth of the country but the problem is when such person get into power or government and meet bad system, they eat their words and start doing the same thing that they have criticized or they are frustrated out of the system by those who are feeding from the corrupt system.
A vast majority of the problem lies in the system and just like you have said the action of the leader is mostly controlled by the system on the ground and most problems that we think are leadership problems are actually system problems and to start with, any country that you see it government losing legitimacy from the citizens such countries have one thing in common which are faulty constitutions weak institutions.

More also a lack of national developmental goals, all of which is what gave room to bad leadership since the system could be bastardized at will.
3294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: August 11, 2023, 11:40:47 PM
Future trading vs gambling,  the fact is that both have same chances of losing, and with that, I won't pressure myself to align my support to any of the two between gambling and futures trading.

So for that, I will base my argument based on individuals skills and possibilities of maneuvering the system to make heads ways in both ventures even though the chances of recording success are few and the risks are high but then making the right calculation could arrive you in a position that you could be at an advantage even though the advantageous position does not come frequent in both gambling and futures trading.
3295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 11, 2023, 11:35:20 PM

It's actually pretty stupid how someone would feel that some group out there in the internet will actually provide an 100 %  sure odds tag to deliver them victory because I for one certainly know that they is no such channel and the crazy part is that you actually gat to pay for such service. I was personal invited to one of these groups and I instantly blocked it because I am very certain that all these groups operate same way we do because no one actually habor any hidden secrets to a match before it's kicks off.

To predict exactly what will happen in the future and time for it to happen has been a difficult thing for humanity so that is the aspect that bettors need to understand it is not easy to know what will happen in the future and every minute is important. Football game happens at least 90 minutes into our future and to deduce it to appear the way it would in the future is not overtly easy. I could only get there free version and compare with others plus personal analysis but to pay for a group for signal is not what I do because it is of no guarantee.

You can't predict but the data and statistic gives you an insight into the sports bet, if you analyze properly what are the possible odds of the winning of the team or player there's a chance you can predict it, people who just rely in the information they get in the groups is not as always the ideal, just get information to them what are their past experience at the end its your side. Data says it all, its on you just in case, are you willing to risk with the opinion of other people or the data you gather.
Up till right now i am still a member of some telegram football analysis and predictions group but what I cant do is to pay a fee to be given predictions as in the form of paid predictions it doesn't work accurately in most cases and there have been recorded cases of loses resulting from such deals, so best possible position is to be a member of the group and use the data available to you through member analysis to form your judgment.

That way you are not relying on your own analysis alone or the analysis of a single person but your predictions are done using data from various sources.
3296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: August 11, 2023, 11:16:48 PM
Of course all we do, especially myself, is try to hold back. And I myself have my own measure and when using any winnings I'm always going to apply a limit to the point where I can afford to use the money. I wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't have a limit to always not exceed.
Making gambling a source of income is not wise at all because it is like holding a time bomb that will explode at any time. So don't even think about making gambling as an income, unless you're a site owner or bookie.

Yes that's a bad habit once you will aim a profit in gambling. But dad to say there are a lot of people around us that they don't have enough knowledge about gambling which means they will gamble beyond their limitations and that's the reason why they loss a big amount. And also there's a time that once they will loss a big amount and they are too greedy enough to play they some of thing favorite things will be sold in order to fulfill their wants.

Aiming a winning on gambling isn't bad, besides it is the main attraction of gambling and why many people are engaging in gambling activity.  It will only become bad if a gambler does not know his limit.  If he don't set a plan on how much he is willing to lose or does not know bankroll management.

Everything will be fine if we know how to moderate our selves, knows our limitation and anchored our self to self-control.  Gambling only becomes a haywire if one losses his control and decided to pursue his goal despite his financial limit is already met.

If we hit the wall or limit, we must stop and play again another day when we have replensih our funds using the money we can afford to lose.
The vast majority of gamblers who thinks that they have limits on the gambling is all motivated through personal efforts in following their own lay down principle and placing the right judgment between gambling for fun and gambling as a means to earn a livelihood, this is what differentiates a gambling addicts and just fun seeking gamblers.

An addicts will thinks the more he gamble the higher his chances of winning and there after sorting out all his financial needs from there, but along the line, he will keep losing until he becomes bankrupt.

Placing a limit on our gambling habits and behaviors helps us a lot and in most cases, limited control will aid greater chances of winning future games since you developed a habit of always stepping back to re-strategize.

This is called withdrawal strategy and only those that can practice self-limits will achieve positive results from such habits.
3297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Adam Back's Bullish Bet on: August 11, 2023, 10:48:16 PM
I can only be bullish about bitcoin if the halving has already occurred. Since the halving hasn't occurred, I think am less bullish on bitcoin price.  I'll turn bullish on Bitcoin following months after the halving season  that is expected to occur by next year.

Regarding that, I'm trying to determine how realistically Adams projection of $100k before the halving season might be made. Since it is after months of the halving season that Bitcoin tends to soar in price, reaching a new all-time high. I'm not sure how likely it will be that the current state of the crypto market will result in a new ATH being set before the halving season. That looks unrealistic to me, I don't know for others, what they think about Adams prediction

I would place a successful outcome for Adam, in terms of his bet to be somewhere in the ballpark of 15% and 20%, which surely are non-zero odds that he could win, yet at the same time, the odds are seemingly against him.  I doubt that his measurements much more positive, even if he did state the reasons that he was making such a bet in which we would presume that he should consider the odds to be greater than 50% that he would win.. . but since the amount is so low, like others mentioned, it could be a bit of a publicity stunt, even though Adam doesn't really seem to be that kind of a guy.  
Adams is going overly overboard in his predictions of the possibilities of Bitcoin  to get to 100k which is above 60% risk cances of Bitcoin to reach such price and his chances are far from winning because Bitcoin may not likely reach such an amount before the halven which will happen in a few months  less than 8 months from now, although Bitcoin have the possibilities of reaching such price in a couple of months before the scheduled blocksize that cause the halving cycle, but more also we have to dip down into Bitcoin price history and what possibilities amd posible market realities that can work for or against his predictions.

But also we have to consider the amount of time Bitcoin will spend in a sigle price trajectory just like the current Bitcoin price benchmark of between 29-30k price were it has spent more than 90 days already,  this could be a pointer as to what price we should expect before the next halving cycle.
3298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 11, 2023, 10:36:45 PM
Of course Burnley are going to lose this game... I don't remember Man City losing to EPL newcomers... Especially since it's the first kick-off game of this season... And another factor for City's good game is that they lost in the Super Cup to Arsenal recently... Burnley will lose without a chance...
I also think that what you say can happen to Burnley, because Burnley is not a team that can make it difficult for Manchester City and Manchester City themselves might also think that Burnley is an easy opponent for them in the first week of this season so I also agree more with what what you're saying, that is Burnley will lose to Manchester City without any chance.
that's the reason why i were going all in city. Burnley being promoted to the EPL but its performance is still questionable at this moment. I don't underestimate it but i doubt if burnley will able to give a tough game for city. It's caused by burnley was not facing manchester city last season. The club just being promoted to the EPL now. Burnley must be careful with manchester city with all of its stars. City will try to use full power against burnley. Burnley may be conceded so many goals against manchester city.
Guardiola needs to try its main line up against burnley to make sure whether the main squad is still strong enough or not to win a lot of trophies again this season. My guess if guardiola will be playing haaland and KDB together.
I hope that burnley will able show its best performance in first week of EPL. We will see kompany to face its former club.
Even from the odds given to both clubs, you should already know that Manchester City was going to win the match some gamblers may still choose Burnley against Manchester City due to odds speculations that have misled many in the past into choosing the wrong clubs due to odds.

But in today's match, it was clear that Manchester City will not waste time in making the first oppression, and on the record of the just past season, man city still stood tall and was the undefeatable champion.
3299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 11, 2023, 09:22:15 PM
Yes and although you are right, Ronaldo hasn't turned Al-Nassr into an invincible team. I think they lost more points with him last season when he joined than they lost before he joined. They still did ok despite losing the SPL title or not winning it so to say, but Al-Nassr does definitely not win every game only because Ronaldo is now there. They have had their defeats and draws with Ronaldo and that happened more often than I would have expected.

Ronaldo alone can't do anything. And that is the reason why Portugal never won a major trophy despite having Ronaldo in the XI for so long. But this time, the chances look brighter since Al Nassr has now got a number of players to support Ronaldo. This time they have managed to get Marcelo Brozović and Talisca in the squad, which should boost the team balance for Al Nassr. Anyway, Al Nassr is doing well recently. Yesterday they won the Arab Club Champions Cup semi-final, by defeating Al Shorta (1-0, goal by Cristiano Ronaldo).
I agree with you on that,  despite Christaina Ronaldo presence in the Portugal team their have failed to carry any major trophy and even at that it shows that Ronaldo alone can't bring home victory to the team but the if you have checked Ronaldo performance in the club side this season,  you will notice that all the multiple goals that came in from Christana Ronaldo in the matches were all collaborated by his team mates he just does the scoring since he is good at delivery every goal opportunities.

3300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 11, 2023, 09:16:24 PM
Man City won 3-0 in the opening match against Burnley and everything happened as we expected. Haaland also already with two goals and already going up on top in the top scorer list. Expected a lot more from Burnley but they just arent close to the Man City level.
It is true that Manchester City have an easy game today against Burnley. I didn't see Burnley being able to threaten Manchester City's defense on many occasions, but Manchester City were really able to put in a fierce game and win it easily. It was a win that was expected at the start of the season, but I was impressed with Haaland who really seems like an unstoppable goals machine.

For the next match, Arsenal vs Nottingham is a party worth waiting for. Arsenal have a high probability of winning compared to Nottingham, so it should be easy for anyone of us to find out who will win the game.
The fact that Burnley have to face Manchester city in the opening game is a big challenge for Burnley due to the fact that,  Manchester city happens to be in their best position and with their premier league victory and experience meeting such a club in the opening ceremony is de motivating but I hope burnley will be able to come up in their next match since the season just began.

Manchester city is on the verge of riding on their last premier league records but this time winning their first match,  against the previous premiere league were Manchester city started on a bad note by losing their first goal.
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