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3281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been threaten to stop gambling on: June 25, 2023, 07:53:40 PM
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Putting pressure on someone to stop playing is pointless, if the player himself does not want to do this, then this will not happen. There are different situations, sometimes it happens that the family does not have enough money, and the husband still spends money on gambling with the desire to win something, but instead he only loses the last money, in which case, of course, his family will convince him to quit it, but if it's a dependency then it won't be easy to do. If it's for fun and everything is in order with finances, then no one will forbid you to play in your free time.

Pressuring someone to stop playing is not pointless, it is possible if there is no other way but to apply pressure. even so, I agree with what you say. the problem is, if the gambler does not intend to do so. then, it would seem to be a pointless thing. ideally, taking a persuasive approach would be more effective than applying pressure. that way, a person will not experience pressure that could have the opposite effect. after all, it's not an easy matter to break something that has become a habit. at the very least, a person needs another diversion so that the focus is not so much on gambling. through a persuasive approach, plus supported by family will provide better motivation. in fact, not infrequently there will be tension in the family, the environment, if you only apply pressure by force.

Related to the title of this thread, I'm pretty sure we have a lot of stories and experiences to back it up. I guess, this is a common case. ideally, a gambler should ensure that the money he is betting on is not money that has multiple interests. that way, we will avoid the pressure of getting threats from the family. in fact, not infrequently we often threaten ourselves, if we have experienced repeated defeats. and I'm pretty sure, this experience is a very common experience for gamblers.
3282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 25, 2023, 07:31:54 PM
Quoted from Romano. Rumors have it that the Saudi approach for Thomas Partey is concrete, but there is still no firm bid for the player - only initial talks. in fact, Arsenal would be open to letting him go, as revealed a week ago. however, there was no talk of a new deal. apparently, there are doubts for Saudi clubs interested in Partey to play in the Saudi Pro League. because, Partey still prioritizes continuing to play in the European league. the closest club is Juventus, but it seems that no agreement has been made between the two clubs.
If, Partey is the same as other players who have previously joined several Saudi clubs, with the lure of high salaries.  it is not impossible, Partey can change direction to change his plans to play in this competition. Unfortunately, I don't know which club would want to sign Partey's services.
Speaking of Partey, at least the midfielder can still be expected to play a high quality game. moreover, if he plays in this competition. my guess is, Al Hilal or Al Ahli is the club that wants Partey's services.

Other rumours, Al Nassr remains convinced of Marcelo Brozovic's deal. talks will continue in the next hours, monday will be an important day to move forward. the deal hangs on the player's side, waiting for a new round of talks.
well, speaking from the side of the League competition. So far, Al Nassr is the most serious club to overhaul its squad. if, the agreement is well established with Brozovic. We can be sure, Al Nassr is by far the most ideal team in terms of the depth of the players.
3283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 25, 2023, 06:28:32 PM
Bayern Munich must have a second option if they fail to get Harry Kane, so far there has been no response from Harry Kane to join Bayern and there must be an additional option for Bayern to look for other alternatives if they cannot get Harry Kane. Not easy for signing England player actually they are happy with their domestic league, many of England player spent their career in Primer League and Harry Kane looks not has planning will play in Bundesliga with Byern Munich.

Honestly, not easy reach fees transfer for Harry Kane because Tottenham Hotspur most difficult team by giving expensive transfer fees. Manchester City ever failed reach agreement fees transfer for signing Harry kane last three season and Bayern Munich have give excited offering if want to sign Kane.

Unfortunately, if, Bayern did not get the ideal striker as they hoped. you can be sure, Bayern will find it difficult to compete competitively in the Champions League. there is no choice, but to try to recruit Harry Kane from Spurs. it's just that, the price problem will be an obstacle for Bavaria. like it or not, Bayern must take a persuasive approach to the striker from Spurs. plus, with Levy's side who has always been an obstacle. Bayern, must provide a fair price for him that can be agreed by both parties. well, at least, Kane can fill the vacant position after being left by their striker, Lewandowski.

Meanwhile, Mane and Choupo-Moting are not always reliable. because these two players, often experience goes ups and downs in the game. There are also other players, like Sane, who cannot really be relied on even though in the system implemented by Nagelsmann and Tuchel, they are only shadow strikers, not real centre-forwards. regarding options issue, I'm pretty sure they already have it. it's just that, it seems like the second option or the other is not as ideal as the first option. because, Kane deserves to be considered if we look at his track record when he was with Spurs. but, at least Bayern Munich still has plenty of time while trying to find the ideal option. after all, the new season still has enough time before it is rolled back.
3284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 25, 2023, 06:09:41 PM
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I agree with your viewpoint. In football, especially before the start of the season, nothing is certain. However, if I may speculate, if Manchester City's squad undergoes minimal changes, they have a strong chance of winning the Champions League consecutively in the upcoming season, similar to what Real Madrid achieved in the past. As long as Pep Guardiola remains their head coach, I believe City has a great opportunity to achieve this feat.

If teams like Madrid, Munich, Barcelona, Inter Milan, and other strong contenders are not consistent, the door will be wide open for City. This would mark a new chapter in the history of the Champions League. From a statistical standpoint, they would become the first English team to accomplish such a feat. It would be truly fascinating if this were to actually happen.

Clearly, Man City will experience changes with the departure of several players. perhaps, currently only Gundohan has left City. the day after tomorrow, we'll never know. In addition, there are rumors that Riyad Mahrez is being teased to play for a Saudi League club. Bernardo Silva is no exception, who is rumored to be PSG's priority. if these players leave, Pep is quite overwhelmed to find a replacement. but not Pep's name, if he doesn't prepare his team long ago. that's why, Rice is currently a serious plan City. there are also, several other players. but in fact, even if these players leave. I believe, Pep will bring in no less great than the current team. even with young talents, they can show their strength better than last season.
IMO, the system that Pep has implemented is working and he just needs a little touch to complete it. maybe, this team will be as we discussed. or, possibly the other way around.

But certainly, as I said from the beginning. in fact, even the League competition has not been rolled out, we cannot measure how strong each team is competing this season. besides that, there is United who is strengthening his squad with several newcomers. Also, there are rumors that MU is interested in Osimhen again. I think this competition will offer exciting matches from teams competing in the Champions League. so, we just follow every development.
3285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 25, 2023, 05:29:58 PM
olympique marseille has found its new coach. following the departure of Igor Tudor, Marcelino Garcia Toral has taken over as head coach at the french ligue 1 club. the 57-yo spaniard, who is friends with om president Pablo Longoria, last coached athletic bilbao until about a year ago. for MGT, who until now has only been under contract with spanish clubs, this is his first station abroad.

Apparently, I missed the news regarding Igor Tudor who chose to resign from the chair of coaching Olympique de Marseille. I tried to look for news information, related to his resignation. apparently, he chose to leave and try to have a career with Serie A clubs. However, I did not get much information about this Croatian coach apart from being linked to being a Juventus coach. quoting what you said, I also just found out, that Marcelino Garcia has officially been confirmed to join OM as the new head coach with a contract valid until 2025, as also quoted by Fabrizio Romano. Marcelino's appointment also ended the coach's break. yep, he was unemployed for a season. However, before Marcelino Garcia handled Athletic Bilbao, he was a fairly experienced coach in Spain, having won two trophies with Valencia and Bilabao.

Well, let's see how the new Marseille coach brings his team when carrying out the new 2023/2024 season.
3286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 25, 2023, 03:20:20 PM
according to information from german sportmagazine 'kicker', croatian international Josko Gvardiol has reached an agreement with manchester city on a long-term cooperation and has informed rb leipzig of his intention to transfer. however, the german dfb cup winners have not yet received an official offer for the 21-yo center back from rbl. leipzig are prepared to let JG go, but only in return for a transfer fee in the region of €100 million.

Romano has also reported the same. Manchester City and Josko Gvardiol has reached an agreement in personal terms after a week or so but as expected RB Leipzig wants 100m Euro for it. I think there is no surprise given how hot Gvardiol is going right now. I would say City will try to negotiate in coming days and I think with a fixed fee + add ons nearing to 100m Euro I think RB Leipzig are gonna allow Gvardiol transfer to City. It would really make City's defense line strong for next season and he is young as well so can serve City for long term and can win lot of trophies with City. I am sure Gvardiol gonna sign at least for 5-6 years at least for City when he signs as a new player in this transfer window.


It's no wonder that RB Leipzig is charging a price for one of its defenders. although to be honest, the price they charged for Josko Gvardiol was too high. I also read this news from several newspapers, including from Romano and TEAMTALK. Manchester City have agreed personal terms with the player Jugen Klopp wants to sign for Liverpool, according to Romano. both City and Liverpool, are in the market to deepen their defense during the summer transfer window.

City could lose centre-half Aymeric Laporte as he hopes to join a new club where he will have more playing time. meanwhile for Liverpool, a defensive overhaul is in sight as Virgil van Dijk and Joel Matip have reached the age of 30+. that means, The Red needs a younger centre-back. Therefore, Klopp really wants to bring in Josko Gvardiol from RB Leipzig as the successor to Virgil van Dijk. sadly, City have come a long way closer to bringing him to the Etihad Sadium. I think City will try to negotiate with the Club to smoothen their plans. if this is the case, it is very likely that Josko Gvardiol will play in the Premier League next season. with status, as the most expensive defender to bring him to england.
3287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 25, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Yeah actually some might think twice about it but its not fixed that he needs to be sold at 100m Euro or something. Yeah Spurs might think of that way but we have seen lot of players pressurizing the club for a move and club accepting bids below their valuation. Its possible that Spurs might go for a bid below 100m Euro if Kane has agreed with some other clubs and is desperate to join them or leave Spurs. Well right now most likely scenario is that Kane will continue at Spurs. He seems like not a kind of guy to ditch the club who developed him. Hopefully that mentality changes soon if he were to win a trophy.
From the latest news, I see that Bild is reporting, that Bayern have resumed negotiations for the transfer of Kane, and the Bayern are now negotiating directly with Kane. To be honest, I am sure that in Bayern he will be able to reach his full potential, many times, almost every off-season there is a lot of talk that Kane has outgrown Tottenham, he needs to take this step to continue developing his career. With Bayern, he will have much more opportunities, I think everyone understands this. It is already clear that Kane is a person who is not willing to change something in life, but he should have moved to Bavaria. I know that Manchester United were interested in Kane, but in this case, Bayern have an advantage, because the president of Tottenham, in the event of a player leaving the team, would like to sell Kane to a team not from the Premier League.

According to British media, Bayern Munich have reportedly backed off in their bid to bring Kane to Bavaria. however, according to BILD information, there appears to have been a turnaround. And even if these rumors are true, I'm not sure if Bayern will be willing to pay the price Spurs are asking for their striker. in fact, I'm not sure if these negotiations will reach an agreement from both parties. except, if Spurs lower their price tag for Harry Kane. that way, Bayern can bring Kane to the Allianz Arena. even that, if Harry Kane is willing to join Bayern Munich.

But by the way, ideally Kane should choose a career with a new club if he wants to win trophies in various competitions. with Munich, at least he can have more potential to achieve as much as he wants. or, if Kane chooses to go to Old Trafford. Kane, could play in the Champions League again next season. Plus, under Erik Ten Hag, Kane could become a sharper player than he would have been at Spurs. unfortunately, it is very likely that Kane will stay with Spurs. So, we agree with what @Avirunes said.
3288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 25, 2023, 12:42:12 PM
~snip~
It seems that Barcelona once tried to bring in a sling when coach Luis Enrique. But Enrique did not approve and chose Arda Turan from Juventus. Since with Pep from 2016 Gundongan had an extraordinary career, maybe Barcelona should be disappointed. Moins made an outstanding contribution to Man City. Today, after almost 7 years, he only joined Barcelona at the end of his football life. 32 years old is not young and maybe he can play effectively until the age of 36 only. Yes, Barcelona does not seem to have any progress to buy young players. Barcelona prefer experienced old players.


Related to what you said, it seems I forgot to remember. but as far as I can remember, Arda Turan was an Atletico Madrid player. then, Enrique brought him to Barcelona. in fact, Arda Turan played really well at the ATM. unfortunately when at Barcelona, ​​he did not get minutes of playing time.

Well, back to Gundohan. from the start as I said, it is very likely that Gundohan will partner De Jong as a pivot. why, because these two players will complement each other. like, when Busquets partnered with De Jong. The difference this time is that these two players have the same characteristics, namely being able to play two positions at once. that means, both will complement each other to complement. if this duet is ideal, Barcelona will be even stronger in their midfield. Besides that, why does Xavi still insist on signing Gundohan? besides that he can still be said to be prime with City, he is a great player even though he is no longer young. we'll see, how he will carry out his match with his new team next season.

Anyway, if I'm not mistaken previously Pep wanted to bring Busquets from Barcelona to City. we all know, by the way, that currently Barcelona is struggling in terms of hunting for players in this summer's transfer window. the financial crisis that hit them made it difficult for Barcelona to recruit the players they were after. however, at least Xavi is preparing his team to be more competitive next season.
3289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions? on: June 25, 2023, 12:11:35 AM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.

Actually, there are many arguments that could argue as to what you say. there is also, the claim that most addicts are lower class people. with assumptions, gambling on the lottery. why the lottery, people who are less intellectual tend to think if they get the lottery jackpot they will be rich instantly. in fact, the percentage of the probability that they will win the lottery is very small. but the fact is, they can buy tickets even every day. there are a lot of people there willing to reduce the need that is in their interests, in order to buy a lottery ticket.

However, on the other hand I also agree with what you say. in fact, there have been claims that middle-class people have the potential to become gambling addicts. but whatever it is, the fact is that addiction knows no one's caste. even all that, depending on the habits of each of them. we have reviewed in several threads, there are several famous figures, be it athletes, musicians, influencers, and many others who have become gambling addicts. in fact, they spend an enormous amount of money each gambling session. well, referring to the title of this thread, do gambling addicts care about the consequences of their actions.
IMO, the answer is relative to each individual. because, we cannot generalize to all gambling addicts.
3290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: June 24, 2023, 11:39:54 PM
But suppose there is a new casino, and there are some players who are very good at playing, so they can win continuously, can the casino go bankrupt? or do they already have an algorithm or a way so players can't keep winning?
The casino is a company, and to build a company should have management and figuring assets by professionals. That is bad management if the Company goes bankrupt after a player won a big cash, what employer did? and is the operator sleeping?, Damn, I never hear that a new company/casino goes to bankrupt after a player won, I often hear about a new casino with bad management stealing customer money. So if you want to build a casino, you should have prepared 2 points; big capital and good human Resources management.

Yep, at least one of the factors is the criteria as you said. So, we're in agreement. in fact, to build a casino is not easy, even though the casino is online-based. there are many mechanisms that must be known before building a casino, at least the earliest is sound logistics. if a developer does not have healthy capital, they will find it difficult to build their site to further develop. so ideally developers who don't have adequate funds, they will first look for investors to build their gambling sites. not to mention the license issue, at least the license issue will also cost a lot of money. not to mention to recruit workers who handle their respective fields.

At least if the casino is built professionally, it is unlikely that they will go bankrupt. except, problems with local law enforcement.
As for casinos that go bankrupt, chances are that they are handled by amateurs and bad management. so that in the end, they went bankrupt. but in fact, we rarely hear that there are casinos that go bankrupt. moreover, because there are users who win big bets.
3291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Easy or hard to quit? on: June 24, 2023, 11:17:45 PM
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Your take - that treating gambling akin to a pastime necessitating resources - is thought-provoking. Yet, it somewhat bypasses the risks of gambling addiction. The excitement of gambling lies in its unpredictability, but this same factor can be its peril. Uncertainty breeds hope, hope for that ultimate winning hand.

Your view of disregarding long-term losses is intriguing. While it reduces emotional strain, acknowledging losses is essential for financial prudence. Though your standpoint of seeing gambling as leisure is fascinating, we can't overlook the potential financial and psychological repercussions. Even as a hobby, gambling requires keen awareness and restraint to prevent addiction

So, what do you think Dude. if, we don't want any risk, the most ideal answer is not to gamble. We are aware that gambling carries risks. because to play it, we need a tool to bet. by risking money, it means we are quite prepared for the risk of defeat. if, we calculate the long-term loss. that means, we are playing with our own minds. why, if it is detrimental, it is better not to gamble at all. yes, it's that simple isn't it. because in gambling, it is risky even the probability of winning that we have is smaller than the ratio of defeat. "in this case, betting on a purely luck based game".

Well, if basically we or I gamble intensely every week. let's take football as an example, in a week, there are 3 matches with different leagues and we bet on them. the question is, aren't we indicated to be gambling addicts? one more thing, this is very interesting, the joy of gambling lies in its unpredictability and uncertainty breeds hope. and if gambling is certain, should we call it gambling. and if, we play for fun, what is the definition of having fun than gambling, isn't it getting the win from the gaming session.

Well, regarding hobbies, we can apply them to other things. for example, I have another hobby to travel around the world. this hobby, will be very draining of money. then, do we have to count the money we have spent to be a loss. I guess, the definition of a hobby is not like that. but because it's a gamble, like I said. it does not mean that in every session we will just let our money just disappear, even as you say, gambling requires high awareness and responsibility and we agree on this one. that way, we can control ourselves and even the money we have to sacrifice for this one hobby. after all, from every gambling session that we do, it's not always that defeat always covers us. especially in football, because this bet involves insight and knowledge. by the way, I am happy to discuss and exchange opinions with you.
3292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: June 24, 2023, 10:18:21 PM
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if we discuss morals in detail then we will not be able to find honest people in this world (even gambling sites cannot be trusted to run their business honestly), there have been many cases where there have been many gambling sites that deceive their customers, as well as player morale, the goal of people playing gambling is to make a win, so the majority will definitely try hard to make a win in any way.

i'm very sure if you get the trick is the best way to trick slot machines, so you will continue to do that, but the thing you have to remember is that gambling sites can easily find out which people I am cheating easily or using effective tricks and will ban you from their gambling sites.

Good point, in fact we seem to agree. we review a little, because this is quite interesting. i will quote it, if we discuss morals in detail then we will not be able to find honest people in this world. this point, can be justified for those of us who are involved in worldly matters. however, that does not mean there are no humans like you say. there are many examples that I can mention, for example Buddhist monks who choose to be alone from noise and worldly things. in fact, those who have reached certain levels will usually seclude themselves and focus more on meditating.

Well back on topic.
We are well aware that there have been many cases where gambling sites have deceived their customers. but mostly, these sites are usually illegal sites, or sites that do not have a trustworthy reputation. that's why, choosing a trusted site is very decisive for those of us who like to have this one hobby. we agree, if the purpose of playing gambling is to get a decent win. that's why, there are many methods that are used by gamblers. however, that does not mean we will do it by playing dirty. it's undeniable, there are always gamblers who try to justify a way to get a win including playing cheating. and I would also agree very much with another point you said, if we get the trick the best way to trick slot machines, we will be tempted to do it again and again.

in fact, can do it on multiple sites. in fact, tricks like this are not easy to apply in the real world. I mean, just for discussion. even we already know very well, slot games have been around for quite a long time. but until now, we rarely hear news if casino games are broken into by gamblers. by the way, overall I agree with what you said.
3293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 24, 2023, 09:43:54 PM
I'm sure Vlahovic will be suitable to play in any big team, because Vlahovic has the characteristics of being an aggressive player and not lazy to chase or grab the ball. So yes, if Vlahovic accepts an offer from Bayern Munich then surely Bayern Munich will have a very prolific forward. What's more, the current head coach of Bayern Munich is Tuchel, of course, it is a strong and luxurious unit in the Bayern Munich team. At least, Vlahovic still has potential for the long term if I compare it to Kane, because their ages are also different where Vlahovic is certainly younger.

Actually, I don't really know the track record of the players from the Serie A League players. Even so, at least I have some pictures and information that I can get from YouTube highlights if I want to see the action of players that I don't know about. spoke about Vlahovic, this striker from Juventus. it seems, worth considering by Bayern Munich to fill the void for their center forward. at least, under Tuchel's tutelage, he could bring out his potential more than he was with Juventus who were experiencing many problems. and if Vlahovic plays for Bayern Munich next season, he will have more partners to rely on than he did at Juventus.

On the other hand, if Bayern sign Kane. he is more reliable than Vlahovic. proven, Kane has remained consistent in every season with the Spurs by scoring lots of goals. Kane too, has an experience requirement that cannot be doubted, both in terms of maturity and emotional in terms of the game. unfortunately, Bayern will not sign this striker from Spurs if the price remains £ 100 million.
well, the problem is that what Spurs have to offer is not ideal and besides that the player is almost 30 years old.
on the other hand, so did Vlahovic. in fact, he had a long career with Bayern. However, will Juventus release the player for under £ 70 million. because according to several sources that I read a few weeks ago, Juventus fenced off its striker with a tag of £ 80 million.  "if I'm not mistaken" so, we'll see what Bayern will do in terms of bringing in the striker they need.
3294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 24, 2023, 09:12:02 PM
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I guess, actually Enrique still needed Neymar services. He was an important part of Enrique plans, but considering Neymar often suffer injuries at PSG, this made Enrique position perhaps go awry.

If i'm not mistaken, i've read based on some sports media. if Luis Enrique became PSG coach, Neymar would not be forced to stay at the Parc des Prices. if I interpret his statement, he emphasized that he gave the choice to the player and at the same time to the club. which means, if Neymar stays with PSG under Enrique's tutelage. The trainer doesn't mind.  "if we refer to his statement."
but if, PSG will sell Neymar in the transfer market window next summer. is there a club that is willing to bring in a pretty fantastic price, while now he is 31 years old. plus, the player is prone to injury. although there are several rumors reporting that a club from the Saudi Pro League is interested in signing him. even other rumors, Neymar refused the offer. even though I'm not sure about the legitimacy of this report.

Well, we agree, if basically Neymar is a player who is still worth defending. in fact, she could be an important part of Enrique's plans. that is why also, several statements were made by Luis Enrique.
apart from all that, let's just wait for every further development of PSG.
3295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 24, 2023, 08:51:34 PM
In my opinion, a player like Declan Rice should prioritize having more play time instead of looking for the best team to go to. And let’s not forget that Arsenal is not a bad team. They have also finished in the second position.

The sad part is if he goes to Arsenal, there is always a chance for Arsenal to win the English Premier League title. But is it worth having a title in which he is not going to have much of a contribution? With Arsenal, he will also be able to play in the Champions League end. If Arsenal can win the English Premier League title next season. He will also be praised a lot more compared to if he was in Manchester City.


As I quoted from the TEAMtalk report, also Fabrizio Romano. City, however, are "preparing their formal bid" something which has strengthened Arsenal's resolve to close the deal in a hurry. Because of this, both Romano and the Daily Mail stress that the Gunners have made West Ham aware a third bid and upgrade are in the works. but other news, as reported by the Guardian, Declan Rice is only eyeing North London. they say Declan Rice "still wants to join Arsenal" despite the fact City have just secured a historic treble. apart from that, there were several factors that caused Rice to prefer Arsenal.

And this is in line with what you said, if Rice could join Arsenal. with Arsenal, Declan Rice will certainly become a regular player. that way, his role with Arsenal will be very much needed in his contribution. if Arsenal are able to win a trophy this season, Rise can ensure that he plays a big part in the hunt with his new team. So my question is, is it worth it if Arsenal bring in Declan Rise with a price tag of over £ 100 million.
3296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 24, 2023, 08:21:49 PM
Yes, it's true, that's very reasonable because Kane is the Tottenham team's most valuable asset and in terms of quality he is also very good.
Now there are so many top European teams, not only Bayern, who want Kane and in my opinion, Tottenham's failure to qualify for the UCL next season makes the possibility for Kane to move quite large. ahead.
Personally, I really want Kane to go to a more worthy team to support his career.

harry kane is one of the most prolific strikers in the world right now, actually having kane in the squad is a big advantage for tottenham but they can't capitalize on it very well, any team that manages to have kane (whether it be bayern or Man utd) will experience a drastic increase in attack power. based on rumors circulating, tottenham was actually quite sincere with kane's departure, so they put up a tariff of up to 100 million pounds, but several teams who wanted kane to see that it was a very large amount so tough negotiations to reduce kane's price were still going on.

We no longer follow the progress of Harry Kane. however, referring to what you said. I'm not sure if any club is interested in signing Kane for £100 million. So far, Bayern are unlikely to be interested in signing Kane despite Spurs dropping their estimated £90m price tag.

Likewise with Real Madrid, now Madrid has brought in another player. even so, I'm sure that Joselu will not be a regular player. maybe, Madrid still has an eye on Kane. but so far, with Mbappe's statements. it seems, Madrid will stop trying to bring Kane to the Santiago Bernabeu. because Mbappe is younger than Kane. in fact, it is more believed that Mbappe will have a brilliant career with Madrid. Madrid is only waiting for one season to bring him in, that way they will get him as a free agent. or maybe, Madrid will try to bring in Mbappe this season if PSG offer a friendly price.

As for United, rumors are they are slowly pulling back by looking for other options to find the striker they need. the reason, none other than a very high price tag. that is why, if Spurs do not sell Kane this season and Kane is not willing to extend his contract. Spurs will release Harry Kane, as a free agent.
3297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 24, 2023, 07:56:35 PM
It has been reported that if qatari investors were offering barcelona to create the same busines model like what already done by manchester city with its city football group. Qatari investors were sending proposal for barcelona to create a new team under barcelona.
I think that it's possible for barcelona to accept it as it will be helping the parent club to get more funding. This busines model has been used by manchester city with its city football group which is having some clubs under it (girona, mumbai fc, NYC FC and melbourne city). There is also another team that is starting to use the same busines model like city. Chelsea is also doing it by acquiring big stake from strasbourg.

I think barcelona shall accept such proposal. It will make barcelona has middle east team who played under barcelona's name.

We also read about this news, as in the title reported by Goal: Barcelona will imitate Manchester City, La Liga clubs receive offers from Qatari businessmen to have their own team in the Middle East. well, amidst the trend Saudi clubs are in a race to bring in some of Europe's top players. Qatar is trying to offer Barcelona to have its own team in the Middle East like City did. So, that's obvious.
IMO, there is a prestige competition between Saudi and Qatar. after Qatar successfully hosted the 2022 world cup, Saudi offered to host 2030. After that, Newcastle was acquired by the PIF company, which is under the auspices of the prince from Saudi Arabia. After that, we were shocked by the news that Qatar would acquire MU even at a fantastic nominal price. wow, it seems very interesting to me from a political point of view, as well as the prestige battle between these Middle Eastern countries.

Back on topic.
I read this news, but we cannot confirm its validity regarding the truth. however, it seems that what Qatar has to offer is quite attractive to Barcelona. that's why, in the same report Barca is considering the proposal because it needs to fund lucrative contracts for the Spanish parent squad. Unfortunately, there are no details on how other details of this rumor are related. but if it is profitable, there is a great chance that Barcelona will accept the proposal offer in the midst of the financial crisis that has hit them.
3298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 24, 2023, 07:34:14 PM
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I don't think Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will be the favorites next season, but the favorites are Manchester City. I know Real Madrid have the ability to do well in every Champions League season, but I don't really expect them to qualify for the final when the quality of other teams can be said to be better.

You are right, we cannot predict anything about next season's Champions League especially about who will qualify for the final and who will win the title. But if I'm being honest, the top list as the favorite team for next season is Manchester City.
I know Manchester City is the best team and many are favorites after they win, but for me the Champions League is still difficult to predict, even though Manchester City is still the favorite, no one knows whether they will win again or will fail in another round.

Yes, right now the other teams that have entered the Champions League are preparing themselves, they have fixed the squad they want, but I'm sure there will definitely be more surprises beyond that, maybe now Manchester City is still consistent, but when they are in the Champions League, that's what makes us hard to predict.

It is clear, even the league competition has not yet been rolled out. So, we can't predict what will happen next season in the Champions League. although in truth, City is currently a very tough team compared to other competing teams. perhaps, they are stronger than this season with their younger and more energetic newcomers.
but on the other hand, other clubs are also making efforts to make their teams more competitive as they embark on their new season, both in the Domestic League and the Champions League. to be sure, each team will compete to strengthen their squad by bringing in newcomers who have quality. also, it looks like the level of competition next season is quite more interesting than in the 2022/2023 season.

But, if we talk City for now. it seems likely that they will continue to move smoothly, at least until the semi-finals. or maybe, they could just be a finalist again. it could also, they slipped in the last 16 round. and for sure, in football anything can happen. in fact, a team that is not seeded could win this competition next season. the point is, let's just follow how these teams add to their strength by deepening the team's squad ahead of the competition being rolled out.
3299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 24, 2023, 07:11:36 PM
I'm thinking about Benzema and Kante both moving to Al Ittihad in Saudi Arabia and they are going to play there for the next season and wondering what's the point of hiring all these superstar players for Al Ittihad. They are spending too much money on these players when they don't actually need all these players. The main goal for a team like Al Ittihad is to win the AFC Cup and I think the money spent there's much more than what they need to reach this goal.
I think they are working on their marketing power and sponsor to attract more attention for the next season.


First, we are surprised by the record salary that Al Nassr offered to Ronaldo after the 2022 world cup Qatar. after this competition was over, other clubs competed to bring in other top Europeans. Al Ittihad, the winner of the 2022/2023 season competition title participated in enlivening to bring in newcomers from European leagues. unmitigated, to bring in Benzema, Al Ittihad was willing to spend money as well as a fantastic salary. of course, we wonder why Saudi clubs are suddenly competing to bring in European stars even though Ronaldo and Benzema are no longer young.

After investigating, it turns out that these clubs have been acquired by the PIF company under the auspices of Prince Mohammed bin Salman. which means, clubs such as Al Nassr, Al Ittihad, AlAhli and Al Hilal, are owned by one person, namely the Saudi prince with a project built together with the Saudi kingdom. scenario, they want to develop Saudi football more developed. plus, introducing the Saudi world from the football side.

I think their goal is not really to win the cup like the AFC. however, more than that, maybe we can only speculate and assume. in fact, Ronaldo was signed and at the same time became the ambassador for the 2030 world cup for Saudi Arabia. that means, their target is to host the 2030 world cup. plus, at the same time introducing Saudi to the world that they are ready to be open both in the field of business or whatever that seems to be their project. that's why, there are many famous players they bring in. one of them as I said above. plus, the Saudis are targeting the attention of the world's eyes on them through football.

by the way, this is my assumption and has nothing to do with actual facts. So what I'm saying from my perspective, is most likely wrong.
3300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 24, 2023, 12:34:57 PM
Some Barcelona players continue to leave the team one by one. Busquets is also leaving now. Therefore Barcelona did the right thing by signing Gundogan. Their characteristics aren't the same though. Because Gundogan is more like an attacking oriented player. Maybe Barcelona would bring a defensive midfielder as well in the coming days.

But these departures are good ones for Barcelona actually. Because they really needed to get rid of some old players to play according to Xavi's system better. Barcelona were born again with young players and they will need time to become much more successful.

in fact these two players share the same characteristics, both Busquets and Gundohan are midfielders. even before, Pep Guardiola tended to play Gundohan as a defensive midfielder. it's just that, this season the system that Pep Gurdiola has implemented is different, Pep has put Gundohan's position to play more at the fore. in essence, Gundohan can play various positions according to the system implemented by the coach. he can play DC, DM, even AM.

In Barcelona, ​​it is very likely that Gudohan will be played as a double pivot and partner with De Jong. these two players, will complement each other. the unique thing is that if these two players partner, it looks like Barcelona's midfield will be even stronger. because De Jong also has the same characteristics as Gundohan, who can play as an attacking midfielder. but, that is on condition that Xavi doesn't change his system next season. However, I think Barcelona still need some newcomers to deepen their squad. not just for La Liga, but to be more competitive in the Champions League.
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