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3281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Still thinks that crypto is manipulation free? on: June 27, 2021, 11:45:19 PM
Manipulation in the cryptocurrency space is common. Any news can have an impact on the price component of a particular coin. Anyone begins to think and draw conclusions from various statements in social networks.  Especially if the news comes from people well-known in this field, the so-called experts.
I don't think the crypto market will be free from manipulation from whales or from those big celebrities who got millions of fiat to make the market suddenly pump or even dump so they can take advantage of the market. Social media news have also big effects on the market so let's just embrace it and live with it.

So when it comes to investments, do your own good research and analysis so you will come up with reliable coins to invest and never rely to others or even like Elon Musk because you will only be left with huge losses in the end.
3282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Moving Bitcoin to El Salvador on: June 27, 2021, 11:20:08 PM
Are you thinking of some sort of loophole like selling BTC in El Salvador to avoid paying taxes because out there it's a currency conversion and not taking profit on investment? I'm pretty sure the US or any other government will view it as taxable event, because generally governments always expect taxes from doing foreign investment activity, which usually results in a person having to pay taxes in both countries, unless there's an agreement between both countries.  
Are you trying to avoid taxes to save it for your future? If yes, then El Salvador is still a place that collect taxes especially that it's now accepting bitcoin legally as a medium of payment. Government might have approved it and so taxes are already imposed even in goods or services i think.

Well, paying taxes could really be a little burden because it will add to your expenses but if you think of its real usage which is for the welfare of the people and the country, then you should know how to abide the law.
3283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why meme coin is crashing on: June 27, 2021, 10:19:24 PM
If you want to invest in such MEME projects, you must invest in the initial stage. If you invest in the initial stage, you can get benefit from such a project, but if you invest later, you can definitely get stuck in such a project. Then your chances of loss are much higher.

Exactly which is why we're advice to stay away from meme coins as they're just hyped nonsense. They're worthless and only surviving because of some celebrity preying on the gullible nature of the market. We're always wanting a approval from famous Individuals and they're using that privilege to enrich themselves.

If you're not among the very first investors to discover a meme coin, chances are you'll get dumped on. Better look for solid project that can restand the bear market and invest in them.
Meme coins are just here for nothing because they are just dummies of the potential and trusted coin like bitcoin. Dogecoin can be very ideal to invest when the market is still bullish because its price suddenly pumped because of Elon but when bearish season comes, there's no way it can survive. So if you think of investing into meme coins, be ready to make some huge loss in the end. Better to invest into projects that have high potentials and will still manage to survive when the market turns upside down.
3284  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoins kill Central Banks? on: June 27, 2021, 09:54:33 PM
I don't think bitcoin can kill central banks and is that even a feasible argument to discuss?
See, central bank is dominated by half of the world because they all depend on its working system all the way from federal government, state government and the local government all depends on allocation from central bank and this yearly budget are been signed and approved by the government. Now tell me how bitcoin tends to replace such a movement.
It will be very hard to overcome that crook system especially that bitcoin is always hated by the masses.
There is no any possibility that bitcoin can kill central banks because it's not even fully legalized by the government to be a  currency because it's a decentralized one. And there is no way that a centralized one could ever be replaced by just an uncontrolled virtual currency.

Bitcoin may considered the best investment in the crypto world but it won't come to the extent that people will eventually leave fiat behind just because of bitcoin. Central banks and its fiat are the only approved by the state and bitcoin will only be considered an option if ever it will be accepted by the government in the future.
3285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the world become greedier since BTC? on: June 27, 2021, 06:54:34 PM
Anyone with endless greed usually they don't want to stop at a certain level. I have also never denied that I am not greedy, for example BTC is up $60k and I want it to go up and even higher. This is in all of us because in reality everyone wants to gain more for themselves and it is never enough.

All of bitcoin investors and speculators want to bitcoin to only grow as this means it is widely accepted and leads to higher demand and results in price rise. Bitcoin has definitely changed the way things it used to work before as well open a new horizon to think now and invest in this as well rather than conventional asset classes.


Bitcoin grows its popularity that leads more to its adoption and along with this is also its price increase. The higher its value settles, the more poular it become. And because of this, the nature of the people being greedy started to grown too. Everyone wants to accumulate bitcoin more than what others have because the bigger amount of bitcoin you have, the higher the value of profits you will gain.

And since then, people have become more greedy. It's the mindset of the people that made them greedy and not  bitcoin alone. Because bitcoin in the real sense encourages more freedom and financial independence and being greedy is out of its picture.
3286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC down , does the altcoin will keep strong on: June 26, 2021, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: clarkt link=topic=5337790.msg5er 7323 851#msg57323851 date=1624724823
Bitcoin is the pace setting cryptocurrency.  When bitcoin is down,  altcoin overreact and the dump that follow altcoin is in multiple times lower.  When bitcoin rises,  altcoin will dump as well.  Why,  because people  will be selling altcoin at any price so they could ride bitcoin movement.
In this scenario, altcoins are no longer much dependent on bitcoin because now that bitcoin is in a dump price, some potential altcoins are still surging. But i don't know if they can sustain at their high price because eventually they will still bound to fall down after couple of days. Red days will always come so we can expect that most of the coins are definitely bound to dump.

However, seeing most of the coins are in bloodbath so we can take advantage of this season to add more potential and cheap coins to our portfolio. The more coins we bought, the bigger the profits will be waiting for us.
3287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The right time is now! on: June 26, 2021, 10:56:44 PM
Now that the dropping season has begun, it is needless to say that now is the right time to buy crypto coins. Although in choosing what to buy, especially if it is your first time buying, research is definitely a must. And it is also important to set the bounded time of investing in such, to also determine when to sell.
simple way and no need to do some research wen we want invest in crypto market only buy on top 10 coinmarketcap, which is believed have good product developtment and usecase for cypto market. simple example is bnb , eth , solana , matic and many other.
those were safest assets in crypto currency market, no matter if current price still drop but in future these coins price will soar again and even make new all time high again. bitcoin , ethereum, solana or matice wegood project with strong community support .
All of them are definitely worth taking the risk and this time is the perfect time to start accumulating them. If we can buy them with our funds today then it will be a huge returns waiting for us. But if we don't have enough funds to cater them all, i suggest to stick with bitcoin and ethereum since they got mostly the trust  of investors. Don't let yourself miss another opportunity when the best is already knocking at your door. Invest wisely.
3288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin is legal tender in your country, would you really spend it instead of on: June 26, 2021, 09:58:40 PM
The problem with using bitcoin as a daily currency is the fees, we can't go to the store and buy a $1 beer if we have to pay $5 in fees, even if we do our weekly shopping in 1 day the fees still too high. So, bitcoin isn't a coin to do small transactions, it would be great to buy a house or to buy a car, but to buy things like food will not work for the long term.

If i had both options (bitcoin or cash) I would pay with cash and avoid burn the money on fees.
Bitcoin will still be a great investment even if it will considered a legal currency so i will not spend my bitcoin and onlyd spend my fiat for my necessities. But in terms of buying real estate or cars which i think won't be catered with my fiat, so i will start to use a small fraction of bitcoin providing that its transaction fee will be quite low compare at the present. But bitcoin will still be considered as my top investment so as much as i can, i prefer to hold and keep it grow and only spend it when its price has surges into its peak.
3289  Economy / Economics / Re: When everybody tell you take take risk with money on: June 26, 2021, 07:17:07 PM
If you are not fortunate enough to have a good life, then you need to have the energy and the will to work on yourself.
And in the process of forming you to be good, taking risks in life is like a test to test what you have learned from life. To me the advice of all is valuable, and they all mean a lot to me personally, with money I think it should only be viewed as a guide to life.
But that doesn't mean that you have to take all the advice to heart because some advice aren't compatible to your behavior or sometimes purely subjective so take advice with a grain of salt. I came from nothing too but I am still striving the same as back then.
Yeah very well said. Not every piece of advice is to be followed and not every person is to be trusted. I feel like one who realizes what's best for him or her has the highest intelligence and doesn't even need advice from others.

One should neither risk their life nor their money unless they have a reason to do it. I might even understand one risking their money because they are desperate but risking your life should be the last among the last set of choices. Then again, you achieve nothing if you don't risk anything so one has to take risks. Taking calculated and avoiding unwanted risks is the right way moving forward, I suppose.
There will always be risks in everything we do, be it as an investment or not. They all have its pros and consequences in the real sense. Taking risk is a good start to make you move forward as you aim for more positive and ideal result. We can't have progress and move forward by the way if we don't go out from our comfort zone.

But taking risk for money should also have its limits and should not reach to the extent of taking risk your life and putting it between life and death situation. It's a different story i guess.
3290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: This time when bear market comes on: June 25, 2021, 09:51:20 PM
This time totally different from 2018 situation. Still i am beliving that no bear market comes. so what time will come , i think in another 3 months?



I think the bear market is already here and the dump that is expected is happening again.

The market has been struggling for weeks or probably a month already, and this bad news is keeping investors away from investing their money.

The hype is over, china FUD ad Elon's hate is here, so no interest in investing for now, with that, it will result in a temporary market collapse due to an overprice of altcoins that happened during the bull run.
Prices are dumping these days so i think we are already in a bear season. Others may see this as a big correction but it seems this correction has lasts longer making most of the coins continue to decline their prices.

I hate to say this but this bear season has saddened most of the investor's hearts. This market keeps being uncertain leaving most of the coins still in a dump price which also made other people decide to fall into panic selling. But for me, i prefer to hodl because i still have high hopes that everything will be back to normal again. Bitcoin will eventually rise as well as those altcoins that are also following the path of bitcoin.
3291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you worry about not being able to convert BTC to fiat in future on: June 25, 2021, 07:08:55 PM
I'm currently receiving some of my income in BTC, and I'm just holding it because I expect it will go up long term and so it is my savings.
But sometimes I'd like to be able to turn it into fiat for daily expenses. I can't yet pay my rent or buy my groceries with BTC (hopefully one day! but not today and not in the near future).

Not at all and I don't believe that would happen. there will always be value in bitcoin. and also there is no limit to access the internet. if one of the way to convert it to fiat is closed. like banned crypto in some country people are still using internet.
Bitcoin will not stay forever as an investment alone because the more bigger institutions will come to adopt bitcoin, the higher the chances that bitcoin will be adopted as a currency in the future.

But for newbies who have the biggest fear about not converting btc into fiat, we won't reach this far if bitcoin will not hit its main target in the long run. We're halfway there knowing some of the countries are already adopting bitcoin. Just enjoy what we have at the moment.
3292  Economy / Economics / Re: The trend of prices is still upward, any hope for downward? on: June 25, 2021, 06:17:01 PM
COVID 19 enriched majorities while the minorities suffer.
The current increament in the cost of commodities in the market is alarming bad yet the majorities who are representative of the minorities (politicians) seem to pay less concerned.
This increament before now was tag to be as a result of Covid 19 which interrupted importation and exportation of good and services.
It is expected that with the decrease in the Covid 19 spread I thought their will be a corresponding decrease in prices of price the reverse is the case.
My question remains is their any hope for price decrement.
I think everyone suffered a lot from the pandemic, but poorer countries and smaller bs usinesses were hit harder than others. The US printed tons of Fiat, and inflation is already a bit higher than expected if I'm not mistaken. As anfor Bitcoin, it recovered from the initial hit of Ma rch 2020, and I think it became largely independent from the pandemic, unlike the global economy. So the price can go up or down, based on other events and their media coverage, but it's impossible to predict where it'll go.
This pandemic has made everyone to struggle even harder and the price inflation is even more growing when it comes to goods and services. Poor people are becoming even poorer and there's no way our economy will recover if this covid 19 variants continue to appear  and infected people.

However, when it comes to crypto market, either prices will go up or go down, that is already expected knowing the market is very much volatile. But still some investors do not understand the market's high volatility mostly newbies and continue to become stressed out seeing the prices keep on declining.
3293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: China Has Ordered All Financial Institutions To Cut Crypto -Related Services on: June 25, 2021, 05:43:57 PM
Among all the backsteps China have taken, closing miners is a good boost for the future of crypto as the world was getting wary of a lot of hash from every mineable coin going to China. Though they would prevent financial institutions to provide crypto related service,  crypto would  still flourish in China. Not even the Chinese government can effectively block crypto. And for an oppressive regime like china, crypto could be the only way out for a lot of population.
China has been making a lot of restrictions when it comes to crypto. Banning of bitcoin in China has made the crypto market started to decline aside from the tweet of Elon. But all these things have been proven that bitcoin can't be stopped by them or any other group.

Now, another news  was out and  cutting of crypto related services will never be totally done because crypto community will still find ways to continue its services even if most financial instiututions will agree on China.
3294  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I Don't Want To Hear Anybody Crying When BTC Will Reach 1M Per Coin! on: June 24, 2021, 09:56:26 PM
after all, of course we feel sad for such a significant price decline.But behind the rapid price decline.we can also take advantage by buying as many bitcoins as we can. because we can sell them again when the price is stable. need to worry about what is happening at this time. because this can be said to be a good moment to buy again at a low price
Bearish season will always give us good opportunities to start buying potential coins while their prices are still cheap. This is the mindset of bitcoin enthusiasts but not for bitcoin haters. They will always sfind the negative side of bitcoin no matter how high the price it reaches that are already beyond their expectations.

Investors who became rich in bitcoin may have doubted bitcoin at first and were hesitate just like anybody else. But when they realize that bitcoin has high potentials to grow in the future, they started seizing its opportunities to avoid regrets in the end why they haven't bough when the price was still affordable. Now they are already enjoying the fruit of their investments.

3295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 21, 2021, 09:08:27 PM
I'm impressed with the Hawks these season since out of nowhere they reach this far and they have chance to take the title.
I have to say it is really unexpected for me, I didn't see Hawks coming all the way to conference finals. I imagined it would be Nets vs Sixers conference finals at one side, Clipppers vs Lakers on the other side and then Lakers vs Nets finals in the end with whoever won. That is what I believed would happen around the start of the season, and that is what I believed at the start of the playoffs as well, I imagined Lakers sucked on regular season because Lebron and AD got injured and they were back so they would win against Suns, now Suns in conference finals and they even got a game without CP3 (albeit to a kawhiless clippers).

Let's see what is going to happen but I think this season could be the only season in my memory where I had to no idea who would win a series for whole playoffs, sure there were shocking results in some series before but not for ALL playoffs.

Until now people are still underestimating the Hawks, they are a huge underdog in the previous round and this round. There are even some of my friends that are giving the Hawks a +2 wins in the series, meaning, Hawks just need to win 2 games in order for a bet to win. I did take it actually as I believe the Hawks would not give up in this fight easily since NBA Finals is a huge dream to achieve, and Trae young at a young age, man, that's a big achievement on his side.

according to Wikipedia, Hawks only won one championship and that was way back 1958.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Hawks
3296  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sports - UFC Official Betting Partner - Play Smarter 🥊 on: June 21, 2021, 08:50:01 PM
Those gambler are surely a fanatic at the same time Billionaires that cares nothing for the money but to support their team and also to make a bet.

There are really people who gamble a huge amount of money, but the most important thing here is that Stake has a lot of big-time bettors that trust the betting platform with their huge money. I'm not seeing this kind of big bets on other sportsbooks, so congratulations to the stake team for continually growing and gaining more gamblers as you continue to operate.
3297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🕷 betspider.io | 🔥The Hot & 👩‍Fun Place to Make Wager & 💰 Investment on: June 21, 2021, 08:28:27 PM
Cool website, it offers investment and this is what people are looking for. It's a new site, right?
Welcome to the forum, hopefully, you'll gain success here.

I also would like to know about the query of @sujonali1819, if mandatory is compulsory then I would not find this site interesting.
3298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: June 21, 2021, 01:34:05 PM
Not just only online gambling is popular right now, even online selling and other kinds of stuff online are trending now because of pandemic and I think this is also the right time for cryptocurrency to make the name loud this time because cryptocurrency is an online use that people can afford to use especially to those who don't want to go outside their house, and want to make money online.
True, but the effect of crypto is on the gambling business as anyone can buy online stuff using fiat like Paypal payment system or credit card.
However, the situation in the gambling industry is quite different is not only it could give an anonymous transaction, it could also give the bettors the best gambling experience as transaction free is cheap and transactions are instant.

As you have noticed before, bitcoin value pump during the pandemic and that is because people now are more in their house than outside their house. For sure a lot of people now are accepting cryptocurrency in their lives now than before.

It dumped not because of the actual use, or adoption, it pumped because of the hype and that's the reason why we are seeing a correction right now with the Elon Musk news and China banning bitcoin.
3299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 21, 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Who you guys think will win the championship? Who should I put my money on?


But if I will choose, I will go either on Phoenix or Bucks. Don't take my pick seriously though. Grin

Since jazz is out of the picture well my bet will go to Bucks for winning the champ this year since if you compare the roosters among these teams we can say that bucks is more dominant among them, But we cannot predict since its early  to tell and maybe other teams will find ways on how they can outscored  the bucks on their match.

I'm impressed with the Hawks these season since out of nowhere they reach this far and they have chance to take the title.

Bucks are the favorites now because they beat the favorites in this season. Maybe they'll have an easy journey against the Hawks but I'm sure the NBA finals will be tough for them, especially if a team knows how to play defense against Giannis, it would be better if Leonard will come back and they'll win the WCF as we know how effective Leonard is on limiting Giannis.
3300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lopez vs Kambosos - June 19 on: June 21, 2021, 01:07:34 PM
We have some breaking news. Teofimo Lopez has tested positive for Covid-19 and this fight has been postponed, again. This has been a real disaster for Triller who paid a lot more money than this fight was worth and then had to change the date because of the Floyd fight and now because of this.


BREAKING: Source: Teofimo Lopez tests positive for Covid-19, Kambosos fight and card is off, moving to Aug. 14.#boxing #LopezKambosos


Damn, after so many postponements, here we are again hehe.

Moving the fight to August 14 might not be a good idea as the fight between Manny and Errol Spence is scheduled on August 21 so I think people might not buy the PPV as they rather watch the Pacman return.


Don't you think that there are some things fishy about those postponements? Sorry if you think I have a green mind but who's with me? LOL. This is really a disaster for those who already make a bet. Don't you think that people will make another bet while some of their money is floating? You are right @bisdak4, I guess people would rather go in pacmans return.

Manny vs Spence will become a sold-out fight, that's already expected as this is the biggest fight of the year based on the announcement. Since Fury vs AJ will not happen this year, so there's no other fight that would attract people to watch.

Lopez vs Kambosos fight postponement would help to increase their revenue.
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