@ OshiNick I simply want to know how Antillephone N.V. regulates Direx N.V., but you did not answer specifically. Curaçao is known for being a laissez-faire regulator. Laisssez-faire = let you do what you want -> does not sound like regulation! In other words they do get involved in player arbitration but the whole they keep a low profile. I have never heard that Antillephone N.V. was involved in a player arbitration! Can you give an example? As far as it goes with embezzlement and so on (referring to the poker case) , my advice is always; don't leave too much money in any casino account. Antillephone N.V. does not control anything in regards to account balances or money transfers? -> does not sound like regulation Your answers show that Antillephone N.V. does not regulate Direx N.V. anyhow, while it is stated on your website that you are regulated by Antillephone N.V.! This is the criminal offense of Fraud by false representation! |
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Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit. 55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus 1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss. So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him! Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now Exactly, I don't think that they should pay him 7 BTC, Duckdice is kind enough to give back his 2 BTC, it was his own fault, and wait? game-protect? statistically? Gambling is still gambling, there's a chance for him to win more or even lose the entire balance. Duckdice is a very good site with great potential, I think the red tagged should now be cleared. Based on what was it his own fault to click the |Cancel Bonus| button? Yes, he can win more or he can lose, but statistically he will only lose 0.85 BTC until the bonus is cleared and he has all rights to clear the bonus! Duckdice was kind enough to call him a terrorist? How destroyed must be a brain if someone believes that calling the victim a terrorist is kind enough?!? A new site faced with my signature and google "duckdice.io scam" = first page and third entry or google "duckdice.io" = first page and sixth entry never can have any potential to grow! To grow, even though a scam, they will need an army of signature campaign promoters like the betcoin.ag scam has. Google "betcoin.ag scam" = first page and first entry  |
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Like I've said, I know for a fact that the network was handling all player funds cross-cage processing (settlements between skins on the network. Do you have as well the domain name for this network? What are the names of the other skins? Common practice else every skin would end up owning money to the network or, like you've said, take deposits but don't settle with the network. Thus, networks always handle the processing unless a skin is at VERY good standing with them. Common practice is that a skin has its own cashier, but there are also skins that use the network cashier. If a skin does not settle with the network, he gets banned! The identity of the skin owner is known, so he also can get sued. It is not like you rob the network and that's it! A skin might also has to make a security deposit. Thus anyone who thinks he's owed money, contact Enterra.
Enterra what? Enterra Poker delivers the software and do not state anything about a poker network! Your own poker system is here!
Chat: Hello, do you need any help on our online poker and casino software Poker Network Partnership
launch own poker network based on Enterra Poker social and bitcoin poker networks So Cyberdeck Poker launched its own "poker network" and called themselves the flagship while their network had no other skins and therefore of course a very low traffic as a standalone site. You should not start a Bitcoin poker site based on lies! |
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So, this is a bad skin on a good network or just going through some growing pains? Is anybody still playing here or have they all ran away? How's the traffic? Most important: Does this site require a strict documentation verification process before withdrawal? <----that's a deal breaker for me! I'm already playing on a pretty good network on a skin which offers the fastest and easiest withdrawals I've ever seen....so....I'm open to play with new players....but not if it's harder than it has to be.
What is the name of this skin? I would have thought it is the publicly proven Betcoin.ag scam!, but they are not a part of a network.  |
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You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount. If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"? Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen! Got you here, because even after for a while it is still stated Cancel Bonus and not Cancel whole Balance! Correct because if you cancel the bonus after two rolls you won't lose your whole balance. Just a small amount. Are you not able to understand that it is the criminal offense of fraud to ask me to cancel my 2 BTC bonus and then cancel my whole balance of 7 BTC? The locked balance is getting bigger while rolling. So the more I play, the more rake I pay to your house, the more money you will steal from my balance?  So get your stats right first before starting such sad site While Game Protect is indeed a sad site for shady criminals like you, I have no idea what is wrong with my stats? If you put "duckdice.io scam" into google = first page and second entry = good stats  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313.msg20368185#msg203681851. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy. 2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility. So we believe now this issue has been resolved. Wrong belief! He clicked the |Cancel Bonus| button and never agreed to cancel his whole balance and therefore your move is juridical not valid and you have to restore his account like it was prior to clicking your fake |Cancel Bonus| button. If you can not do this technically, then this is your fault and you have to give him 8.15 BTC or at least his 2 BTC deposit and his 5 BTC winnings. Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. 1) According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely based on his 2 BTC deposit. 2) 55x wagering of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus 1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss. So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account balance will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him! |
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You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount. If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"? Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen! Got you here, because even after for a while it is still stated Cancel Bonus and not Cancel whole Balance! Correct because if you cancel the bonus after two rolls you won't lose your whole balance. Just a small amount. Are you not able to understand that it is the criminal offense of fraud to ask me to cancel my 2 BTC bonus and then cancel my whole balance of 7 BTC? The locked balance is getting bigger while rolling. So the more I play, the more rake I pay to your house, the more money you will steal from my balance? So get your stats right first before starting such sad site While Game Protect is indeed a sad site for shady criminals like you, I have no idea what is wrong with my stats? If you put "duckdice.io scam" into google = first page and second entry = good stats https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313.msg20368185#msg203681851. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy. 2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility. So we believe now this issue has been resolved. Wrong belief! He clicked the |Cancel Bonus| button and never agreed to cancel his whole balance and therefore your move is juridical not valid and you have to restore his account like it was prior to clicking your fake |Cancel Bonus| button. If you can not do this technically, then this is your fault and you have to give him 8.15 BTC or at least his 2 BTC deposit and his 5 BTC winnings. Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. 1) According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely based on his 2 BTC deposit. 2) 55x wagering of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus 1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss. So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account balance will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him! |
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You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount. If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"? Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen! Got you here, because even after for a while it is still stated Cancel Bonus and not Cancel whole Balance! |
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1. You're posting off topic. Why? If you have an issue with me, PM me or start a new thread or something. Also, you are replying to something from a month ago. Really, you're only proving my point. If my response to your statement if off-topic, then your statement was off-topic, simple! 2. How am I "failed" at anything? What "promises" have I made that have gone unfulfilled? Aren't YOU the one who is taking people's money to sue sites and then not doing anything?
3. How am I a "hero of empty promises"? You are saying random dumb shit to sig spam. Sad. For fun, let's take a look at your trust page to see what people think of your business: Dark Days October 2016: My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible.
Everyone can see that you failed because you did not hold anyone liable and you did not prevent anything. Customers were fully cheaten in this rakeback scandal! For fun, let's take a look at your trust page to see what people think of your business: That's a lot of red!
So again, pretty please with sugar on top, stop tarding up threads with your barely literate attacks and scam attempts. Leave those to your own fail threads on here and 2p2. How are thoughts and blatant lies of others related to my reputation and abilities? Game Protect is successful despite all the brain wash stories! As you like to refer to 2+2, I have to admit that the brain washers there are unlike better than you! |
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Sad thing is i didn't know of this situation and i just deposited, it was already 10 confirmations still the balance won't show. Now i cant even login on my account anymore lol.
If someone is not able to put "bitsport.bet + scam" into google, then he has to pay the price, simple! Actually is i've already used this sportsbook many times, it's not my first time. I don't think i have to search that keyword in google everytime i'll deposit to it, don't you think? It's just that i've just transferred here from cloudbet because cloudbet doesn't have esports. One time prior to your first deposit would have been sufficient. I called them out since their beginning here, as you can read on the first pages of this thread. It also makes sense to check from time to time. |
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Dont play with them ! In their system always have a problem . For exampla yesterday I bet on the holdem they accept and won but end of the round they say sorry we have a problem . And my all balance gone for 3 minute and after thats round I missed 3 of a kind bonus *8 and four of a kind bonus for ante *10 totally I missed more than 600 mbtc. another round ı lost with same system problem 57 mbtc and they didn't give that back. Dont play with them their system terrible and also support team sucks!!!
According to bitcasino, you can open a dispute with askgamblers.com |
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Sad thing is i didn't know of this situation and i just deposited, it was already 10 confirmations still the balance won't show. Now i cant even login on my account anymore lol.
If someone is not able to put "bitsport.bet + scam" into google, then he has to pay the price, simple! |
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You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount. If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your hole balance"? Lol it is whole Balance not hole... sounding naughty Why would anyone agree to cancel his hole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen! The balance is like a hole, empty and no value! |
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You offer to cancel the bonus, but then in reality you cancel the whole balance inclusive deposit and winnings and this is the criminal offense of false representation! 2 Fraud by false representation(1) A person is in breach of this section if he— (a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and (b) intends, by making the representation— (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading. (3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of— (a) the person making the representation, or (b) any other person. (4) A representation may be express or implied. (5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). |
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You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount. If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"? Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen! |
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You offer to cancel the bonus, but then in reality you cancel the whole balance inclusive deposit and winnings and this is the criminal offense of false representation! 2 Fraud by false representation(1) A person is in breach of this section if he— (a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and (b) intends, by making the representation— (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading. (3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of— (a) the person making the representation, or (b) any other person. (4) A representation may be express or implied. (5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). |
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there's a lot of gambling site that have a poker that use bitcoin in order to play. like betcoin. at this site i always play it when i want to because they have a standalone application where you need to install it on your device and its fun to play . poker is one of my favorite gambling games since i was on highschool or college . playing with my friends is the most precious memories for me.
If you love to play at a publicly proven scam, then the Betcoin.ag scam! is indeed a good choice! |
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AdmiralSpot.com online casino is licensed and regulated by the Government of the Curacao holds the Gaming License No. 1668/JAZ. Where is your license from the Government of Curacao? How does the Government of Curacao regulate you? Please show us Curacao eGaming's authorization to issue sub-licenses? |
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I think this debate will lead nowhere. I am sure, they will soon release an official press release about all your questions. In Amsterdam, at booth E24 where Sekabet was located, I have only asked them about this article and they told me that the article is false and totally misleading and I believe them. Why did you not ask them which part of the government regulates them and how? How much do you pay every month for the Curacao eGaming license? You pay $1,000s (?) every month for a license, but you do not care why you pay so much money and for what you pay so much money? You state on your website that you are regulated by Curacao eGaming and they state on their website that they are regulated by the Government of Curacao, but you have no interest to answer questions about this! Why pay $1,000s (?) monthly for a license if you do not care whether this license is valid and what service it will deliver for your customers? So they told you that the article is false and totally misleading, but you had no interest to know what is false? Like you have no interest to know what the Curacao eGaming license is? You are writing the word "scam" in big letters. I wish we could use this word against people who really take other's money by betraying and cheating them. This thread was opened to support Sekabet players and now look where it got us. If you want we can carry on this conversation via email or other media, this would be my wish. No, as everyone can see, the word scam is in small letters! Curacao eGaming takes other's money by betraying and cheating them, why not use this word against them? If you have any questions about Sekabet and its services feel free to contact me. Thank you for your offer and I have questions about your license and your licensor. |
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