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32921  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2000W Power Breakout Board (DPS2000BB to PC-Ie x12) on: February 24, 2016, 12:18:17 AM



Op Are you in the U.S.?
32922  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community Miner Design Discussion on: February 24, 2016, 12:10:33 AM
Also I was probably a bit grouchy because today is sandwich day but I didn't get the sandwich until about ten minutes ago.

I sent $10 in BTC to the Burger Fund so you won't have that problem tomorrow - lol

https://blockchain.info/tx/7f211e5e7c4f7977824e2007dd2a3ede88885594b4f8275ee62268795ea14bb7

Looks like this is his BF address no? 1BURGERAXHH6Yi6LRybRJK7ybEm5m5HwTr

I hope so as I send funds there.
32923  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Feb 19 to Mar 3? picks are open setup time.. prize = 0.2 btc on: February 23, 2016, 11:17:44 PM
first pick

-1.2 = philipma1957      this has my  -1.11% included within. if I win i roll it over.
32924  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 10:36:35 PM
My miners have been frequently dropping off of the pool. It seems to be happening more and more since the pool went over 20PH.... along with the blocks being very slow .... I'm kinda wondering if the mining servers cannot handle the load of over 20PH

Playing with pool management with a private test pool to learn how things work, I get the same effects when I overload the hardware.

just my thoughts, we will have to wait for the official cause.
Well, considering the pool has only dropped to 20PH today, but been running 25PH avg, and often up to 30PH for quite a while now ...

... how did you determine "blocks being very slow" ?

well very slow is 90 to 99%  not your usual 106% Roll Eyes
32925  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community Miner Design Discussion on: February 23, 2016, 10:29:41 PM

I understand, but this is an international board directed to a global audience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice is not the prevailing dialect of English here.

I guess its time to refresh the "hamburger theory of management".

When an American manager has to discipline a subordinate he will make that scolding will be both prefaced and post scripted by some faint praise.

Very much like hamburger patty is typically delivered between two halves of a bun.

The German manager in the same situation will deliver just the meat patty.

The Japanese manager will only give two bun halves and the Japanese employee is supposed to infer the patty in the middle.


I like that example as  there are a lot of different styles here.

best regards,

 phil
32926  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community Miner Design Discussion on: February 23, 2016, 09:57:21 PM
For industrial-scale mining, you want a different project and you want someone other than me to design it because I really don't care one bit about industrial-scale miners. And this project will not use CAN, this project will use USB because specifically-non-industrial miners will probably get along better with it. Also because the point of the framework is to be generic, and I don't really see the use-case for stickminers or pods or a single S1 using CAN instead of USB and those are the use cases I do care about.
I have a feeling that you are getting upset. I can't understand why? This is just a discussion. I fully support your decision to go with point-to-point USB.

I'm engaging people to explain why other solutions are not competitive for a hobby miner. And some aren't even competitive for an industrial miner. Like daisy-chaining will be a loss no matter how one would implement it.

Maybe because I use "you" more in the sense "y'all" or "youse", a plural "you", not "you" sidehack in particular?


remember internet posting always has a bit of:      


fuck you, you are a moron  


 as it is   built into the typing aspect and the delay of talking.


I am looking at the posts and reading from a different viewpoint then you or sidehack or anyone else posting here.



I find when one wants to really post precisely perfectly what they mean  the posts get too   long   like sloopy's posts tend to do.

 (@ sloopy not an insult I admire you for efforting to write correctly)  

Then they get skipped over or skimmed.   Like this post will be     and some may just see :   fuck you, you are a moron


So many posts seem short and nastly even when they are not meant to be that.


  Note this is a sincere post attempting to  calm the waters on the thread.  No tricky techniques here.
32927  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 08:56:55 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.


even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here  for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send  about  7.5  and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.


I know you understand all of the following, and your comment is about daily vs. blockly payouts, but even in this case (55 inputs) the fee is really reasonable:

Your transaction was over 11KB -- suggested fee for inclusion in next 0-1 blocks is sat50/byte, or  0.0057 for your transaction. That's about 0.07% of the transaction amount.

Your included fee of 0.0013 is sat11/byte, which 21.co currently estimates means a delay of around 14 blocks.

It's a change from the past, I agree -- and I am a 2MB HF now supporter, running a Classic node since 3 Feb, but I think your original fee was too low for the market conditions.


So I got caught on sends due to this more then once. So I know to send high fees when the coin in my wallet is 35 or 50 x .01 from mining here.

 A lot of of  people sending to me  don't  know this issue so  they send decent coin and think it is enough. Then everything bogs down for hours or worse sends just fail.
32928  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community Miner Design Discussion on: February 23, 2016, 08:13:14 PM
what about the ability to run them with a nic on each miner

or run 1 nic to a switch then the others would connect via usb to miner 1 and make a usb hub style where they could daisy chain down the line with less clutter of going mass into a switch with alot of cat 5 cables ? just a idea i had kinda like the old firewire days where you could keep chaining devices down the line till u needed another hub to boost the power
I would like to see the actual error statistics from those daisy-chained Firewires. I saw some stats from high-end MacIntoshes driving stacks of 5-6 external disks each through Firewire 400. This wasn't anything good and they did run in very clean offices not garages, like the mining farms.



i had a lot of firewire 400 fire wire 800 they were a bit more reliable then usb2.  but the cables are costly.

usb2 I have run 121 usb2 sticks off 1 pc.  but truth be told it was a pita

but 40 usb sticks easy.

17 gridseed blades on 1 pc a pita but 12 blades on 1 pc was easy.

I have 4 or 5 pcs

 so putting 1  on the side to mine a dozen pcbs in the solar array should be a piece of cake
32929  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 07:01:54 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.


even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here  for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send  about  7.5  and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.


55 pennies is large fee to send $4,400 ?
Last week I spent $46.00 to wire $1,700 at the bank.
Sticking to .0001 per kb should still assure relatively fast acceptance.


 

First off I understand the fee mechanism, but many don't..  

  Many people think 0.0001 or 0.0002 just works.

 From your post I am inclined to think you realize BTC size means nothing kb size means everything.

So a          1 btc send consisting of 75 x 0.02  is expensive to send.                 0.0013 is too small
While a 25.2 btc send consisting of a confirmed virgin block is cheap to send.   0.0004 will do the trick almost everytime

The problem is a lot of people don't understand this.
Most people do not understand that btc amount means nothing.
Here is one of my kano.is payment addresses:

it has .20453225 in it

https://blockchain.info/address/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

that is from 1 avalon6 and is the last 20 rewards from kano.is pool

to empty this and send to someone  will cost 0.0004 to 0.0006  due to the fact it is 20 payments or so.

.204 is under 90 bucks  and this is why I would like 1 payment a day since it would be 6 payments not 20 plus  and sending the coins out would be

0.0002 or 0.0003 tops.
32930  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community Miner Design Discussion on: February 23, 2016, 06:43:21 PM
But then you'd be building an ethernet controller or dual USB hub onto each board. Or some other setup requiring either an additional adapter or adaption built onto each board. The point is to do exactly not that. I know USB isn't great, but it's flexible and it's standard and it's freakin' everywhere. So if I want to use this framework to build a rack machine or a stickminer, I can.

Trust me on one thing - you're not going to change my mind. I've heard all the reasons for the last year.

So usb2 will be the standard correct?

Btw I would prefer it. Since I am pretty sure I can mange ten to thirty five boards via a pc
32931  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: I want to mine on my Oven' NEMA 14-50r on: February 23, 2016, 05:50:38 PM
I got the plug, still waiting on the PDU/Strip bars.

@phil
Did you end up finding anything interesting on the 40A PDU?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/401071409648

runs over 300 new.  Amazing but every search I have done does not turn a manual up.

I do not know if it is fused>  Would be nice if it was.

I was wondering if i just didnt know how to go about it. I paid 55$ for it tho so. Hmm. I'll guess i'll try to search harder. Maybe someone else knows a better way to get the data...

Edit; Actually dug through HP pdf list and found the manual i think;
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04123438.pdf

It says it has overload protection per load group. Is that what we want, and its per 15A outlet? Kinda sound like it just prevent each outlet of running more than 15A?

yeah but surges are less important then you think running this gear.

you are running s-7's correct?

And S5's and PCs/GPU rigs and AMTubes and A6. My farm setup is rather a patchwork of whatever i found best to buy at the moment. Right now i'm onlining GPU's since SHA256 is not doing all that great.

so you have a complex  net work mining.

 Now I have some understanding.  I actually think it is not surges causing issue.  give me a minute to find what I what.

http://www.tripplite.com/line-conditioner-2000w-avr-system-automatic-voltage-regulator-power-conditioner-ac-surge-protector~LR2000/

http://www.tripplite.com/line-conditioner-1000w-avr-system-automatic-voltage-regulator-power-conditioner-ac-surge-protector~LR1000/

http://www.tripplite.com/line-conditioner-600w-avr-system-automatic-voltage-regulator-power-conditioner-ac-surge-protector-230v~LR604/


all of the above are a line conditioner first  and attempt to keep you close to 230volts.

the surge protection they do is secondary.


you are more likely going down to 205 and up to 250   volts and these will stop that.

surge issues are when you go up to 330 volts --------- not your problem.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-TRIPP-LITE-LINE-CONDITIONER-2000W-/252278634199?



I would look into this one and use it to all the pc's see what happens

32932  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 05:30:24 PM
nice to get a block

https://blockchain.info/block-height/399738


not nice to have my transaction miss this block


https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.


even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here  for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send  about  7.5  and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.


This is fund sent to me so I can not control the fee. and the sender did a large fee .0013

This post rambles but there is a point.  If kano pool send out 2 to 4 payments a day to my address  in 20 days it is 40 to 80 payments   vs 20 payments.

When I go to pay from that wallet  all 80 payments will need a big fee to clear.

 So I rather 1 daily payment.
32933  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community Miner Design Discussion on: February 23, 2016, 05:27:06 PM
Maybe it would make sense too consider using a Cat6 connection when chaining boards and the final output would be sent thru USB to the controller or hub but if some one had a dual NIC motherboard, then that could be used instead.

Okay am I missing something.

a simple cheap usb 2 hub like so

http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Adapter-Control-Switches-HB-U14P/dp/B00HL7Z46K/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?

and a simple cable tie

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Logic-Attaching-Assorted-Colors/dp/B00004TZF9/ref=sr_1_1?

and you have 13 boards to 1 pc.

If that proves problematic   due to too many board on 1 hub then two of these

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Port-USB-Power-Adapter/dp/B00DQFGJR4/ref=sr_1_3?

with the same ties and you have 14 boards.
32934  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Feb 19 to Mar 3? picks are closed setup time.. prize = 0.2 btc on: February 23, 2016, 05:15:49 PM
So we are here:

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   163,491,654,909
Estimated Next Difficulty:   165,334,057,582 (+1.13%) diff is pretty low
Adjust time:   After 1447 Blocks, About 10.6 days  >>>>>>> picks will start in 31 blocks.
Hashrate(?):   1,107,952,554 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.5 minutes
3 blocks: 31.6 minutes
6 blocks: 1.1 hours
Updated:   12:10 (4.7 minutes ago)

even lower below

http://bitcoincharts.com/

Blocks   399737
Total BTC   15.243M
 
Difficulty   163491654909
Estimated   159126615319 in 1447 blks   this is (-2.67%)  that is amazing !
 
Network total   1132713.091 Thash/s
Blocks/hour   5.81 / 620 s
32935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The real death of Bitcoin... on: February 23, 2016, 04:37:56 PM
well if it will happen i will wait before to convert to ethereum.. honestly i bought some ethereum because of fast increase value of ethereum..
But i still believe in bitcoin.. And it will never die..


here is btc's problem    a hefty fee of .0013  and this has been skipped by the last 9 blocks made


32936  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 03:39:16 PM
No issues if things are send with some extra $$ behind it. I always use 8 confirmations at the slowest 10 and haven't had a 'lost' transaction yet.

For testing I sent one with 20 confirmations and it took about 14 hours to finally confirm.

yeah but even extra cash  for the fees still does not help all of the time.

look at this

this is a hefty fee,  and I now need to wait to finish business as those coins are not clearing.

This is not just a kano.is issue.


32937  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2000W Power Breakout Board (DPS2000BB to PC-Ie x12) on: February 23, 2016, 03:02:07 PM
The only 2000BB breakout boards I have are made by sidehack, and those work perfectly with the 2500BBs that I have. I'm 100% certain anything that works with the 2000BB will work on it's younger brother, the 2500BB. The pinouts are the same. The only question is, can the breakout boards handle the power? I know sidehack's overbuilt (I also love overbuilt stuff  Grin) boards can handle it no problem, and it looks like these would too. I'd be hesitant with the j4bber board if they're hitting 104c at full load on the 2000BBs. In fact, I probably wouldn't even use them up to 2000w if they're really hitting those temps.

I ran j4bberwock dual 2000/4000 at 17 amps or 4080 watts for 24 to 48 hours multiple times.

There is no way the breakboard I had  was 104c or 220f

Maybe 105 f to 115 f

Not sure where the 104c  temps are picked up from .

That's not the board in question, not to mention 4080w AC is only ~ 3630w DC which isn't full load so not relevant. It would be nice to have that board tested as well, though.


After all the testing I did with the 2980 the 2880 the dual 2000/4000

I go with the 2980s with my fan mod.
I would be really interested in a board for them as they are more efficient psus then the 2000.
Also the fans blow air directly onto the back of the breakout boards so they never overheat.


What would be nice to see is direct 24 hour tests.
With ops board vs other boards.
A s-7 pulling 1300 watts on this board would pull 1339 watts on j4bberwock board if there is a three percent difference on the boards running the 2000 psu.

And if sidehack has more copper then. He should be under the ops.

It is pretty easy to do the testing.  You need 1 s-7 the three 2000 watts break out boards the psu and a meter

32938  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: I want to mine on my Oven' NEMA 14-50r on: February 23, 2016, 02:04:15 PM
I got the plug, still waiting on the PDU/Strip bars.

@phil
Did you end up finding anything interesting on the 40A PDU?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/401071409648

runs over 300 new.  Amazing but every search I have done does not turn a manual up.

I do not know if it is fused>  Would be nice if it was.

I was wondering if i just didnt know how to go about it. I paid 55$ for it tho so. Hmm. I'll guess i'll try to search harder. Maybe someone else knows a better way to get the data...

Edit; Actually dug through HP pdf list and found the manual i think;
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04123438.pdf

It says it has overload protection per load group. Is that what we want, and its per 15A outlet? Kinda sound like it just prevent each outlet of running more than 15A?

yeah but surges are less important then you think running this gear.

you are running s-7's correct?
32939  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S7 Refusing Connection on: February 23, 2016, 01:57:42 PM
you are not going to like this but here goes it won't work for you unless you find it address.

so this one won't let you steal from the uni.

32940  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: February 23, 2016, 01:51:03 PM
.  So I will never see the 150 usd they owe me on batch 1.

What is this?

The compensation for Batch 1 problems. They said they would properly compensate and they never did.

Bitmain lies. All the time. Not surprising. I had to fight tooth and nail to get my promised S4 B1 PSU compensation. In the end, it wasn't even bitmain who compensated me, it was Yoshi directly from his own BTC wallet.

Still waiting on compensation from my batch 1.

What is sad is  I have a guy that wants to me to order some for  him.  Once again proper service from them would make my order for four more units easier to do. 

I have 150 usd coming to me.

 Frankly It is obvious ordering from bitmaintech is more risky then it has ever been,  maybe yoshi would read this and send some btc to my wallet.
As for placing an order for four unit today my heart is not in it.  Even though I am not paying for them and will get a tip from the person I buy for.

This tells you how badly bitmaintech has slipped over the last year.
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