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33161  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY - AVALON6 - $1100 - Closing Jan 12 at 6:00 PM EST on: January 21, 2016, 09:47:06 PM
Back at pc.

This is your gui min-max

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6



Basic Information

PSU requirements:
    Minimum 1100W output, recommend to use high-quality PSU for server
with more than 1200W output and high quality power cable.
    Input voltage no lower than 11.7V and no higher than 12.2V (numbers
take from the controller)
    Lower voltage leads to lower hashrate and higher voltage leads to
possible device burning down.
    NOTICE: Poor quality cable may result in low voltage


  under the 11.7 = lower voltage leads to lower hashrate

and higher voltage over the 12.2v   leads to possible device burning down.


so going under 11.7 on the gui is not a big deal.

going at 12.3v and above = possible burn out  .

 My gui was at 12.5 or 12.6  and my hash was at 3850 - 3950

 I used a finksy/j4bberwock  dual psu to do this.

basically because I scanned the info

and found this

2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)
Fix result when run test scripts

I was at 12.5 or 12.6 and thought I was good to go.
33162  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Jan 13 to Jan 27 picks are closed! on: January 21, 2016, 09:35:40 PM
Closed!

-3.5 = Quickseller
-3.0 = pusttiu
-0.2 = edonkey

 0.0 = skuser

+1.1= indiemax
+1.7 = bileq
+2.3 = RichBC
+2.4 = vortexz
+2.6 = Amph
+2.7 = philipma1957
+2.8 = radiumsoup
+3.1 = tertius993
+3.2 = tlhIlwI
+3.4 = lanfeusst
+3.5 = Ankara
+3.6 = Mikestang
+3.7 = -droid-
+3.8 = Notlist3d
+4.0 = wlefever
+4.1 = d57heinz
+4.2 = HerbPean
+4.3 = alh
+4.4 = ACAB
+4.5  = Zebedee
+4.6 = tss
+4.7 = ezeminer
+4.9 = Kexkey     +4.9 = ailikun  my error so both can keep this pick  and both would get .1
+5.0 = Valkir
+5.2 = blindminer
+5.4 = flikflak
+5.5 = tennozer
+6.0 = Lituation
+6.1 = kama
+6.5 = ingiltere
+6.6 = fr4nkthetank
+7.0 = mavericklm
+8.4 = wpt1wpt1
+9.1 = VirosaGITS
+9.3 = adaseb
+20.0 = Lauda  

final picks are above
33163  Other / Archival / Re: Some Avalon6 safety news. (How not to burn a board) on: January 21, 2016, 06:20:51 PM


  and that is the lack of clarity   oh my input is 12.73 I am good ,  is not true  if you have 15 awg wires   as you do not drop to a gui of 12.2


 which was my case 12.73 from the psu dropped to 12.5 on the gui = burned board

I will be the first to say if read really closely  I could have picked up the  inconsistent issue.  


But I missed that   under 12.8 is only good if the gui drops to 12.2  which is what they meant to say.,


anyway still waiting on a rma answer from block_c
I am not saying what they will or will not do, hopefully they can work something out for a reduced cost or out of warranty replacement for the damaged board. I am just stating it was very clear on the wiki under the PSU requirements

Input voltage no lower than 11.7V and no higher than 12.2V (numbers
take from the controller) Lower voltage leads to lower hashrate and higher voltage leads to possible device burning down.


The part that I might have not mentioned was this
Follow up on under volt. The gear will run as low as 9.6 volts .

The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so  no matter what you set volts at smart speed  lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.

Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.


the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh

Thanks for sharing!  What does watts used look like when hitting 4000 GH, that is a decent OC from 3.5.

That is a 14 percent overclock.  So better then a lot of machines as far as OC with your nice PSU.

13 volts let me do 4000gh  all via smartspeed  which means  it overrides the 500 freq max.
I read somewhere you said you did over volt the unit past 12.8, which is why I thought you were way too high.

I am not sure why I put 13 but if you go to the actual tests thread and do not use the notlist3d thread you can see I mention the 12.8 and not the 13 I also mention testing at the fast speeds.

I was doing that set of tests with the mean well 1500 psu and may have had issues reading voltages it was able to be set to 13.1 or so. But the tests did show gui of under 12.8

The gui under 12.3 shows up in later wiki info.

All besides the point of the thread.  Which is how not to burn your avalon6 boards.

Simple make sure the gui reads under 12.3 volts
33164  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY - AVALON6 - $1100 - Closing Jan 12 at 6:00 PM EST on: January 21, 2016, 05:53:06 PM
I sent an email and a pm.  I am not at my pc so I can not check my emails.

I will post results.
33165  Other / Archival / Re: Some Avalon6 safety news. (How not to burn a board) on: January 21, 2016, 04:31:34 PM
I am curious about BlockC's warranty process for high voltage burns, please share your experience.

well I will  I just pm'd


I also wrote this up for two reasons.

1) I am hoping for a break in the replacement price

2) I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR WHAT A SAFE VOLTAGE IS!!!!


The wiki had under 12.80 volts in one spot  

The wiki had 12.2 volts or under in another spot.

Not clear enough.


SO CLEAR IS :      THE GUI NUMBER NEEDS TO BE 12.2 VOLTS OR LESS


If you look at all the write ups I did on the finksy/j4bberwock dual 2000/4000  

 I wrote time and time again how the avalon6 would do 3900gh on high volts  which was 12.73 volts to 12.75 volts  from the psu  and 12.5 12.4 on the gui.


  So people need to know the high setting on the finksy/j4bberwock  is too high  and any input setting of 12.7 volts   can result in a gui reading of 12.3 or 12.4 or 12.5 volts  which in turn can burn a board out.





Taken directly from the wiki under PSU requirements
Quote
PSU requirements:
    Minimum 1100W output, recommend to use high-quality PSU for server
with more than 1200W output and high quality power cable.
    Input voltage no lower than 11.7V and no higher than 12.2V (numbers
take from the controller)
    Lower voltage leads to lower hashrate and higher voltage leads to
possible device burning down.
    NOTICE: Poor quality cable may result in low voltage.

This piece here from the MM update changelog means that they implemented a check to determine if the input voltage equals or exceeds 12.8V. I think there were a few people who posted screenshots of their ui's where the input voltage was 12.8 or 12.9 with no errors.
Quote
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)




  and that is the lack of clarity   oh my input is 12.73 I am good ,  is not true  if you have 15 awg wires   as you do not drop to a gui of 12.2


 which was my case 12.73 from the psu dropped to 12.5 on the gui = burned board

I will be the first to say if read really closely  I could have picked up the  inconsistent issue.  


But I missed that   under 12.8 is only good if the gui drops to 12.2  which is what they meant to say.,


anyway still waiting on a rma answer from block_c
33166  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Jan 13 to Jan 27 picks are opened! on: January 21, 2016, 04:26:05 PM
on more block left to go 

Bitcoin Difficulty:   113,354,299,801
Estimated Next Difficulty:   117,393,026,881 (+3.56%)
Adjust time:   After 817 Blocks, About 5.7 days
Hashrate(?):   822,717,729 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.9 minutes
Updated:   11:25 (55.0 seconds ago)
33167  Other / Archival / Re: Some Avalon6 safety news. (How not to burn a board) on: January 21, 2016, 03:22:35 PM
I am curious about BlockC's warranty process for high voltage burns, please share your experience.

well I will  I just pm'd


I also wrote this up for two reasons.

1) I am hoping for a break in the replacement price

2) I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR WHAT A SAFE VOLTAGE IS!!!!


The wiki had under 12.80 volts in one spot  

The wiki had 12.2 volts or under in another spot.

Not clear enough.


SO CLEAR IS :      THE GUI NUMBER NEEDS TO BE 12.2 VOLTS OR LESS


If you look at all the write ups I did on the finksy/j4bberwock dual 2000/4000  

 I wrote time and time again how the avalon6 would do 3900gh on high volts  which was 12.73 volts to 12.75 volts  from the psu  and 12.5 12.4 on the gui.


  So people need to know the high setting on the finksy/j4bberwock  is too high  and any input setting of 12.7 volts   can result in a gui reading of 12.3 or 12.4 or 12.5 volts  which in turn can burn a board out.




33168  Other / Archival / Re: Some Avalon6 safety news. (How not to burn a board) on: January 21, 2016, 03:01:51 PM
The high setting on the dual 2000/4000 psu is about 12.75 volts and reads 12.5 or 12.4 in the gui
The setting above burned a board



So the middle setting on the dual 2000/4000 psu is about 12.5 volts  and it reads 12.2 or 12.1 in the gui.



https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

if you look here   above  12.2  in the gui is bad.





here is the ½ avalon6 set to low volts 11.8 which reads 11.7   the  hash ing is 1450 and the temps reveal 

1 board at 31 f
1 board at 75 f

hashrate at the pool is 1450


33169  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: January 21, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
Some new info on the avalon6 .. I burnt a board  due to high voltage.

I suggest that your psu does not supply over 12.5 and when it is read on the gui 12.2 or under.

I based my  12.73 input setting on this info.

Do not input at this level!!








but my dual 2000/4000 240 volt

with 3 volt settings

11.8

12.1

12.6 

has just burnt a board at the 12.6 setting.

I did not see magic smoke but I smelt it.

You can see that the temps read 33 31 75   the 31 should be a 73 or 75

So  do not go to 12.6 volts

http://www.blockc.co/collections/bitcoin-miners-shop-avalon-blockc-co/products/avalon6-bitcoin-miner

note this page link above  price is 10 for 11900  and  volts are now at 11.8 to 12.2   so they had 2 different numbers for safe volts



https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)  >   I was under this number 12.73
Fix result when run test scripts






33170  Other / Archival / Some Avalon6 safety news. (How not to burn a board) on: January 21, 2016, 02:47:57 PM
This thread got sidetracked  So I started a new one.

Let me state for the record.  I misread the wiki posting and believed that a gui under 12.8 was good.

It is bad thus I burned up a board.



Okay  so I like to think I am smart.   Wink

But I certainly found out I am not as smart as I like to think I am.

WHEN I got my first set of Avalon6's from kilo17  I read the wiki and saw the no greater then 12.8 volts allowed info that I highlight below

So I got myself a finksy/j4bberwock dual 2000/4000 psu set it at high with a reading of 12.73 volts
below the 12.8 mentioned by avalon6 wiki as the max input voltage.


I did not research it much more then that.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)  >   I was under this number 12.73
Fix result when run test scripts

Do not input at this level!!   Go lower then 12.73 volts



If you go to the avalon6 sales page below it mentions the 11.8 to 12.2 volts see blue highlights

33171  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: January 21, 2016, 02:41:20 PM
Some new info on the avalon6 .. I burnt a board  due to high voltage.

I suggest that your psu does not supply over 12.5 and when it is read on the gui 12.2 or under.

I based my  12.73 input setting on this info.

Do not input at this level!!








but my dual 2000/4000 240 volt

with 3 volt settings

11.8

12.1

12.6 

has just burnt a board at the 12.6 setting.

I did not see magic smoke but I smelt it.

You can see that the temps read 33 31 75   the 31 should be a 73 or 75

So  do not go to 12.6 volts

http://www.blockc.co/collections/bitcoin-miners-shop-avalon-blockc-co/products/avalon6-bitcoin-miner

note this page link above  price is 10 for 11900  and  volts are now at 11.8 to 12.2   so they had 2 different numbers for safe volts



https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)  >   I was under this number 12.73
Fix result when run test scripts






33172  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: January 21, 2016, 02:40:29 PM
Some new info on the avalon6 .. I burnt a board  due to high voltage.

I suggest that your psu does not supply over 12.5 and when it is read on the gui 12.2 or under.

I based my  12.73 input setting on this info.

Do not input at this level!!








but my dual 2000/4000 240 volt

with 3 volt settings

11.8

12.1

12.6 

has just burnt a board at the 12.6 setting.

I did not see magic smoke but I smelt it.

You can see that the temps read 33 31 75   the 31 should be a 73 or 75

So  do not go to 12.6 volts

http://www.blockc.co/collections/bitcoin-miners-shop-avalon-blockc-co/products/avalon6-bitcoin-miner

note this page link above  price is 10 for 11900  and  volts are now at 11.8 to 12.2   so they had 2 different numbers for safe volts



https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)  >   I was under this number 12.73
Fix result when run test scripts






33173  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY - AVALON6 - $1100 - Closing Jan 12 at 6:00 PM EST on: January 21, 2016, 02:05:09 PM
I based my  12.73 input setting on this info.

Do not input at this level!!

33174  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY - AVALON6 - $1100 - Closing Jan 12 at 6:00 PM EST on: January 21, 2016, 01:52:17 PM
Doing 3.26 TH after 6 hours. I just a bit under the -+ 5%.

I blame my Seasonic 1250w. I see 11.8-11.9 Volt.

well  I have had that issue with the seasonics.

but my dual 2000/4000 240 volt

with 3 volt settings

11.8

12.1

12.6 

has just burnt a board at the 12.6 setting.

I did not see magic smoke but I smelt it.

You can see that the temps read 33 31 75   the 31 should be a 73 or 75

So  do not go to 12.6 volts

http://www.blockc.co/collections/bitcoin-miners-shop-avalon-blockc-co/products/avalon6-bitcoin-miner

note this page link above  price is 10 for 11900  and  volts are now at 11.8 to 12.2   so they had 2 different numbers for safe volts



https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)  >   I was under this number 12.73
Fix result when run test scripts





33175  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Jan 13 to Jan 27 picks are closed! on: January 21, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
19 blocks to closing!

-3.5 = Quickseller
-3.0 = pusttiu
-0.2 = edonkey

 0.0 = skuser

+1.1= indiemax
+1.7 = bileq
+2.3 = RichBC
+2.4 = vortexz
+2.6 = Amph
+2.7 = philipma1957
+2.8 = radiumsoup
+3.1 = tertius993
+3.2 = tlhIlwI
+3.5 = Ankara
+3.6 = Mikestang
+3.7 = -droid-
+3.8 = Notlist3d
+4.0 = wlefever
+4.1 = d57heinz
+4.2 = HerbPean
+4.3 = alh
+4.4 = ACAB
+4.5  = Zebedee
+4.6 = tss
+4.7 = ezeminer
+4.9 = Kexkey
+5.0 = Valkir
+5.2 = blindminer
+5.4 = flikflak
+5.5 = tennozer
+6.0 = Lituation
+6.1 = kama
+6.5 = ingiltere
+6.6 = fr4nkthetank
+7.0 = mavericklm
+8.4 = wpt1wpt1
+9.1 = VirosaGITS
+9.3 = adaseb
+20.0 = Lauda  

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+3.38%)
Bitcoin Difficulty:   113,354,299,801
Estimated Next Difficulty:   117,185,842,263 (+3.38%)
Adjust time:   After 835 Blocks, About 5.8 days ------   19 blocks left   we stop pix at 816
Hashrate(?):   830,759,367 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 30.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   8:30 (1.8 minutes ago)



well right now we are most likely at a negative number  of course we all know  we could rip 5 days in a row at 167  and end up close to +6 or + 7%.

So to those that waited till now to pick good luck.
33176  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: January 21, 2016, 05:01:28 AM
The dual 2000/4000 with the three voltage settings say 11.8. 12. 2 12.8

Are really good pretty quiet they do 4 avalon6s at medium volts. Setting .

Once I clean up the den and garage I will be running 3 at high volts .

phillipma1957 - what revision 2000 PSUs do you have? I have duals from REV1-4 that I'm going to be testing and want to compare the outputs for each REV. Running a dual pair of REV1 and at the highest setting I'm only getting 12.33 on the display. I may just need to tweak the pot as J4bber mentioned on the first page of your thread.
rev 7 ,8

@ generalalt the kilo17 big fan mod was not quite good enough for me. The 2880's would overheat running two avalon6s

I ordered some 90 mm fans from superbiiz bgears b-blaster  going to demo it if it allow me to run the 2880 at 90% loads
33177  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY - AVALON6 - $1100 - Closing Jan 12 at 6:00 PM EST on: January 21, 2016, 04:58:29 AM
I wish they were a bit cheaper, I would replace all my S3 at home.

Great miner !

EDIT: Thanks to Kilo17, Phil and Yan for the opportunity ! Smiley

Yeah I like them quite a bit.
33178  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Jan 13 to Jan 27 picks are opened! on: January 21, 2016, 04:48:02 AM
2.7 = philipma1957
33179  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY - AVALON6 - $1100 - Closing Jan 12 at 6:00 PM EST on: January 21, 2016, 03:15:47 AM
Any of you have any link on how to tune the avalon ? I have a 1200 platinum seasonic power supply and look like it only give 11.9 V

Will like to underclock it to make it more stable.  Grin

Simple go to the settings page set your pools

Freq is 500

Fan is 20


Drop freq to 480

Keep fan at 20

Run for a few hours

Compare to your freq 500 numbers

Drop slow but sure to 460 -20
440-20
420-20
 400-20

Then you can decide what is best.
33180  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Jan 13 to Jan 27 picks are opened! on: January 21, 2016, 12:08:09 AM
75 blocks to closing!

-3.5 = Quickseller
-3.0 = pusttiu
-0.2 = edonkey
+1.1= indiemax
+1.7 = bileq
+2.6 = Amph
+2.7 = philipma1957
+2.8 = radiumsoup
+3.1 = tertius993
+3.2 = tlhIlwI
+3.5 = Ankara
+3.6 = Mikestang
+3.7 = -droid-
+3.8 = Notlist3d
+4.0 = wlefever
+4.2 = HerbPean
+4.3 = alh
+4.4 = ACAB
+4.5  = Zebedee
+4.7 = ezeminer
+5.0 = Valkir
+5.2 = blindminer
+5.4 = flikflak
+5.5 = tennozer
+6.0 = Lituation
+6.1 = kama
+6.5 = ingiltere
+6.6 = fr4nkthetank
+7.0 = mavericklm
+8.4 = wpt1wpt1
+9.1 = VirosaGITS
+9.3 = adaseb
+20.0 = Lauda  

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