Look how Asgrath states a couple of totally irrelevant facts about polio vaccine (and from the WHO besides) and thinks it is 'research'.

It is a FACT that up until a few years before I was born polio vaccines had, among other contaminates that nobody knew about, a virus called SV40.  This virus is found in half of the cancer tumors to this day.  That doesn't mean that it 'caused' all of the cancers (a profitable condition for the medical/industrial complex and one which is now very very common) but it is also very likely to be a contributing factor.  Of course anyone who studies this finds problems in their career.

Most people don't understand the technology of cultivating viruses and how difficult it is to understand what is in the mix.  The target virus (say polio in this case) was grown on monkey kidneys (or was back in the day) but a hell of a lot of other things grew as well.  Impossible to sort them all out, and very difficult to even identify them.  Even in recent times with the rotavirus vaccine several pig viruses were found long after they started injecting them into humans.

I might also note that the guy who holds the patents on rotavirus is Paul Offit who sits on various boards who decide what American kids should be shot up with.  He won't say how much he makes off his patents.  He was also on the panel where Dr. Baker of Baylor Medical School 'joked' that to get rid of the problem of people not wanting to shoot up their kids the U.S. should 'get rid of white people.'   Dr. Paul Offit is the go-to guy for the mainstream media whenever they talk about vaccinations.

Another funny fact about polio is that the 47,500 kids in India who were paralyzed after getting Gates' vaccine got a problem which was 'clinically indistinguishable' from polio.  But it was not polio because it came from a vaccine.  To add insult to injury, the rate of physical damage from 'wild strain polio' in India was already very low before Bill Gates' 'philanthropy'.

Another thing which people don't know is that 'polio' was often not a crippling disease.  My dad had it as a kid and when he was an adult he was in amazingly good physical condition.  His job was to climb 200 ft trees talking off all of the limbs, cut to top out, and rig it with cables for high-lead logging.  This is not a job for pussies.

A real doctor, and one who took a 90% pay cut in order to do the right thing by humanity, gave a pretty good series of lectures on the polio question.  Very eye-opening.  Here's a little clip of the hours of lectures I've seen (and downloaded so it doesn't get 'lost'):

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqhnp-NYGC4

I don't really get the joke, but I enjoyed the Popeye cartoon.  Have not watched one in decades.

A hypotheses I'm working right now is we are seeing a genuine struggle of Titans:  Basically, people who want to repeat the cycle with another debt-backed monetary system (short-handed to 'Zionists') and people who want to shift to a resource-backed economic model (short-handed to 'Lucifarians'.)

I'm actually struggling to find better descriptors for both groups.  Zionists are related to Nazis.  They had a very lucrative partnership before the latter became extinct...at least under that label.  Lucifarians could also be described as 'communists' if the word did not carry so much misunderstanding  and baggage, and the U.N. is one of the most visible artifacts of their being.

A proven winner as far as strategy is to bet on both camps, and the ultra-wealthy do just that.

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I have you (Spendulus) pegged as being firmly in the Zionist camp.  An almost clownishly obvious operation of this camp is to try to pit Christians against Muslims, and you seem to do so at every opportunity.  It is also the case that the 'global warming' hoax is plainly the work of the 'communists' who want control of the physical wealth of the earth.  This is not at all in the interest of the Zionists (who will just buy it when they wish since under their system they have unlimited 'money'.)

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Some people such as Steve Ben-Nun who I've developed a lot of respect for recently, and IIRC the late Barry Chamish claim that 'it's the Jesuits'.  I find their arguments interesting and pay attention to them, but so far I am not terribly convinced.

A lot, and of much higher quality than your 'the politicians and corporate media says vaccines are perfectly safe.'

In fact vaccines are classified as "unavoidably unsafe" officially, and billions of taxpayer dollars have been paid out to victims.  That fact is well hidden from the public and we see this forum infected by mouth-breathers like you who cannot and will not research anything.

The reason why tax-payers foot the bill when there is no alternative but to pay off a victim (99.9% of the time the government weasels out of paying) is that the politicians give the multi-national pharma corporations financial immunity for damage.  This being the case, there is no need real need for safety studies and no real harm in falsifying data (like Merck did for Mumps in the MMR in order to keep their monopoly.)  Mumps is now popping up in highly vaccinated populations because it doesn't work for shit.  But Merck don't care...they have lobbyists.

By having something like 'unavoidably unsafe' in the fine print which nobody reads (in part because doing so make you a 'conspiricy theorist') there is another layer of legal protection against people who get fucked up from their shots.

http://www.hutchnews.com/a1f84eca-2bf8-5839-b94b-d0a0d1c6e7f6.html

There is a strong correlation between people who favor vaccines and people who want fewer people living living on earth.  Killing or sterilizing them before they have a chance to create more 'useless eaters' is much more efficient from an engineering standpoint.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjj4Iq-rsNg

Look at the smirk on the guy's face every time he tells one of those truth/lie things (meaning that if you are an insider and/or you understand the issues, you get the joke.)  Gates is actually in trouble for paralyzing 50,000 Indians with his 'polio' vaccination program.  Being 'in trouble' means a different thing to someone who is a multi-billionaire than it does to other people so he can laugh about it without much concern.

I'm an Atheist.  It's all hocus-pocus to me.

That doesn't mean that I cannot differentiate between a decent person (many/most people who know and follow Christ's fundamental teachings) and a scumbag (many/most 'Lucifarians'), or that I cannot have a preference for one over the other.

As best I can determine, the closest thing we have to 'actual leaders' at this time are heirs to dynastic fortunes, most of which are built on exploitation of the modern debt-backed monetary systems.  Some are intelligent and most are _very_ highly trained, but 'regression to the mean' takes it's toll.  Inbreeding is sometimes a factor as well such was clearly evident in the European monarchies.  These issues are more easily hidden now.

The obvious solution to the aforementioned problems is to retain promising people who are both highly intelligent AND have other psychological profile features which are useful.  Guys like Jacob Schiff, Henry Kissinger, and Zbigniew Brzezinski for instance.

Most of the 'Scientists and Engineers' working on modern projects for the 'leaders' are among the highest in terms of native intellect, but at a third wrung or below on the power structure.  Unfortunately for them, when their tasks have been accomplished they turn into a liability in the eyes of the real leaders.  In some ways they are analogous to the military leaders of times past.

Lucifer is the 'light bearer'.  He brings 'illumination' to his people and lets them see things in a 'better' way than we who don't know his teachings.  God is the bad one who tries to keep people ignorant.  Ignorant Christians (like you) and Atheists (like me) get 'good' and 'evil' mixed up because we reject or don't know the teachings of the light bearer.

That is a basic thesis of how some of these creeps think.

I think you may have gotten my comments confused with someone elses'.  I also did not really seek to answer a question of yours.  Mostly just to present my view on the realities of technology and society to contrast it with the standard marketing fluff.

Truthstreammedia did a little piece which is very eye-opening on where one of the leading technology corporations is wishing to take 'the hive'.  They are not even trying to hide things at this point.  Well worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ekkwAyNf1w

In a bee hive, the 99.99% have a 'good life' and are perfectly happy doing their thing.  It may be collecting as much pollen as they can in the three weeks they have to live.  Or it may be a suicide attack on a threat to the hive.  Or joining a mass swarm in hopes of helping a new leader to exploit another resource even if 9 times out of ten the operation will be a failure and they will all die.

The .01% sit in the middle of the hive and control the activities through 'information' (transferred chemically through pheromones in this case.)  They receive information from the hive in the same manner in order to make 'better' decisions.

Some highly intelligent people cannot help but be enchanted by the thought of the power of sitting at the center of the hive and directing it's activities.  Perhaps most such people.  Most of them will be convinced that when they get such power they will use it for good.  Unfortunately most will find that they simply built a system for someone else to control.

I'm hardly the only person to suspect some problems vis-a-vis vaccines.  It doesn't help that influential thinkers like Lord Russell predicted and promoted both diet and injection in order to mold the population to the government's liking.  This mechanism to be used in 'future scientific societies', but of course we have a long way to go to get to that point, right?

Vegetables actually do contain 'poison inside.'  That's the point of genetically modifying them.  They create their own custom pesticides, preservatives, etc within their tissue as they grow.  Fortunately the government really stays on top of Monsanto (now Bayer who was formerly IG Farben) and forces them to rigorously study the safety of their products.  I mean, why wouldn't they?  Big Brother loves us so much <heart emoji>.  Some whole countries are 'paranoid loons' I guess.  Different countries have different policies about GMO technology.

All of the standard tricks of propaganda honed by the adverting industry over the last century is one of the mechanism used.

In terms of 'science', the primary method of controlling information is by funding almost every entity who can get a hold of the equipment and techniques.  And torpedoing anyone's career who does not go along with the program.

Any study which pointed to problems with any vaccine will be immediately and forcefully rejected by a broad swath of society.  So we have a situation where there is no evidence that there are any problems with vaccine regimes because any studies which seem to indicate a potential problem are by default invalid and anyone who is involved in such a study is automatically a fraud.

In rare (though not totally unheard-of) instances someone or some group does some research which does get out.  It's actually fairly easy to do 'cutting edge' research on the health impacts of certain very commonly used medical technology because in spite of the propaganda, very few actual safety studies have been performed.  Much of the technology is considered 'safe' simply because it has been used for a long time and little actual bench science has ever been attempted.  Looks to me as though a lot of people have a hunch about what they would find and they don't want to go there for that reason.

http://www.curealternative.net/vaccini/alluminio_tomljenovic_shaw-cmc-published2.pdf

I'll help you with a response:  You can go to a site like 'realclearscience' or 'evidencebasedmedicine' and find some hit pieces on Dr's Tomljenovic and Shaw.  Then you can rest easy that all is good in the vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate world again.

As the guy who started this thread said, the entire thread is filled with pointers to valuable material.  In fact, if you look around just a little bit you'll find lots (in spite of the recent trend on the parts of the biggest corp/gov players like Google to memory-hole lots of stuff.)

If you have to have a government certified admission that the government is trying to push dangerous products to promote an agenda, you probably won't find it.  At least not as directly as you demand.  That's kind of how the world works.

Most dictatorships eventually fall due to a reaction of the people.  A 'scientific dictatorship' (aka 'technocracy') seeks to cut off some of the avenues for failure which have vexed past dictatorships.  This through extremely fine-grained monitoring and control of every aspect of every individual's life.

Those funding the 'technocracy' which is half-way in place already are largely the very people who mastered the previous dictatorship which was based on control of debt-based money.  They plan to continue to sit right where they are at on top of the pyramid, but be able to sleep better at night knowing that a toppling is even less possible than before.

BTW, could these debt-based monetary system leaders have created peace and comfort to the impoverished masses?  I say 'yes', they probably could have.  Did they?  I say 'no'.  For the most part they created war, misery, and hopelessness in order to increase their own wealth and power.  I see no reason why they would change their tune if/when they sat atop a technocracy.  The 'illuminated' mind does not tend to see value in such things.  The 'scientists and engineers' who work on these technocracy systems will NOT be the ones making the decisions as is commonly marketed.  In fact they will be a weak link in the system due to their knowledge and capabilities and will probably be in some danger.

Most cows will plod right through the gate at the slaughterhouse without a second thought.  Maybe the nice farmer has some more yummy grain on the other side just like he always has?  Occasionally one cow will sense that they don't think they like it there are try to get away.

A common target population for the planet is 600,000,000.  Target in the minds of the types of people who have board seats in corporations such as Merck.  That's a 'do not exceed' number so an engineered event will be likely to take 19 out of every 20 of us out.  If it's going to happen in my lifetime I'd like to have the 1 in 20 be a certain kind of people.  This in case 'pay-back' proves a possibility.

All I want is for people to hear the other side of an argument.  In today's world even while we still have a relatively free Internet, many people never hear any dissent about certain programs that are critical to corp/gov.  These people don't necessarily deserve what's coming their way.  A small fraction of people will perk up their ears and start looking into the mountain of scientific evidence and/or they will ask themselves why the super obvious propaganda?  I've done my part and that's good enough for me.

I deeply regret not starting out with C.

If you can find any project which is best served with C, I'd suggest to start out there.  Or with some other 'difficult' system language.  Unfortunately Python and the higher level languages are a better choice for the vast majority of tasks.

I am very thankful that I started out learning a little 6502 assembly way back before the earth stopped cooling.  I've forgotten it all and never used it extensively, but understanding things down at this level makes one both appreciate and understand more readily some of the mysteries of the higher level languages.

Best of luck.

'Afrian Man' is totally correct.  With constructs like the IMF and World Bank it is almost guaranteed that those who achieve political power are puppets of the West (and now more and more of the East) installed only to help siphon resources out of the country at dirt-cheap rates.

The common people have common sense and can 'feel' what is going on even if they cannot see it with total clarity.  One has to work around the mainstream media Goliath in order to get a clear view, and that is not always easy even for people who have an interest in doing so.

I've given away a lot actually.  And I don't take tax write-offs for it.  I also don't do it in order to harm the 'useless eater' untermensch class so they don't cause me competition or cost me money in the future.

Bill Gates was literally bragging that he talked to Trump and put a stop to further vaccines safety studies just recently.  This after he was bragging that through vaccines (and a few other things) they could reduce the peak population by a cool billion or so.

Bill Gates was a piece of shit 30 years ago when he was trying to outlaw open-source software which competed with his closed-source spyware and he's an even bigger piece of shit today IMHO,

Presumably you are talking about Dr. Andrew Wakefield.  His study said specifically that the finding are NOT proof of anything, but that further research is needed.

Wakefield did NOT 'develop his own measles vaccine'.  That's a total fucking lie.  He started to be involved in development of a test for (the rapidly increasing number of) people with Cron's disease.  His specialty was gastrointestinal medicine and the study he did associated with MMR was triggered by a bunch of people showing up with almost identical and severe problems in young children which seemed to come about suddenly after receiving the MMR shot.

Resistance to his study was stated in plain language that it would threaten the government run 'public health' agency in the UK and their plans to adopt exclusively the three-in-one MMR vaccine.  All Wakefield ever said was that until further study it would be safer to take the three shots separately.

The establishment ruined Wakefield's career and made a model of it so that other scientists would be more careful to follow the party line.  Wakefield's co-author was wealthy and had half-a-million pounds to defend himself.  He was not only absolved of any wrongdoing but the high court came down very harshly on the lower court for their malfeasance.

Just want to set the record straight here.

Bush Jr did the same thing and he got everything he (or his handlers) wanted.  I never bought the idea that Shrub was natively stupid though I do suspect that years of substance abuse took their toll.

Whatever the case, having your enemies think you are stupid is one of the most useful arrows one can have in their quiver.  Indeed, believing someone is stupid because late-night comedy says so is, well, kinda stupid.


I don't believe that it is an act in her case.

Some CDC studies are known fraudulent.  The thing about science is that once a producer has issued fraudulent or incomplete information, nothing they did before or since can be trusted.  That's why they should not do it, but if you have a 7 figure job waiting for you at Merck when you get done with 'public service', I guess it was to much for the CDC chairwoman to resist.

Themirosal was removed mostly because the danger was to obvious.  The last (and only) safety study here in the U.S. was done like 75 years ago.  They injected like 12 people who were dying of encephalitis as a test.  They all died of encephalitis and none due to mercury poisoning, thus themirosal was deemed 'safe'.  It _is_ super effective as a preservative since it kills every living cell it comes in contact with.  Unfortunately that includes living neurons in the brain.

Even now you cannot walk into a grocery store without hearing over the loudspeaker about 'get your flu shot today!', and see banners and flyers all over the place about it.  At least in my area.  These multi-use vials DO still contain themirosal, and they are highly recommended for pregnant women especially.  (When I was a kid pregant women were not allowed to take so much as an aspirin.)  I would note that in my nephews 4 grade class of maybe 25, a few of the kids are totally zombified.  No hope for them.  That's a pretty high percentage in my opinion.

Something weird is going on here my friends.  The 'affluent' are picking up on it and that is where the resistance is coming from.  The poor and the immigrants are not.

Here is a doctor/professor from a panel which happened to have a lot of known (((chosen people))) on it talking about vaccines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sttSh4FDgB0

It's actually not terribly easy to find this clip on youtube any more.  Lots of stuff is going AWOL on that platform within the last few years.  Go figure.   They talk a lot about needing very high vaccine uptake rates to protect 'our' children.  It's actually a little ambiguous.  Could easily be read (((our))) children by someone who has researched this subject in detail.  Or by people who are in the 'chosen' group and can understand certain lingo.

Whatever the case, the U.S. is becoming less and less of a potential future competitor as more and more of the younger generations turn into zombies.  This could pay huge dividends to up-n-coming world powers including those who dream of a world of goyim living under the 'Noahide laws' directed from the 'third temple'.