Im not sure want to Quit from my main job to focus at bitcointalk,
i think better i get passive income ( basically $money) from real job than focus to bitcoin
You are not sure? So in one nook of your mind you think to leave your normal work for focusing in bitcointalk? So, discussing in bitcointalk, you think that can give you the needed money (according to your thoughts in your nook only) to reckon with your life, to assure the money for make living normally yourself and your family. You are a genius. I love to stay in bitcointalk and stay there to many hours. But I haven't found this way to have such profits from it. can you please share with me your discovery? I swear to give 10% of my profits. If are in amounts mentioned above naturally. I am also a bit confused with all the "Bitcoin is not stable enough to make earning them my full time job" comments. How do you go about earning BTC as a full time job? As far as i know, you can't just pick up a pick axe and start mining. Over here i'm earning a fair bit from mining and even though its a more or less 24/7 maintenance thing, its hardly a full time job. And if i was willing to accept minimal loss to downtime from not being here in person to fix something when it break, i could still work 2 full time job and still earn nearly just as much with Bitcoin. Yeah. I'm not sure if I should even bother with my CakePHP portfolio or education and just focus on posting on this forum. Surely I can pay for all my rent and expenses off the signature campaigns. There must be a way if you've figured it out. There is indeed. Some campaign allow you to post more than X posts and still get paid. Also the grey/neutral area of alt accounts let you spam irrelevant content all day with small minimum post/high payouts in some more... low quality requirement campaign. The best paying one, i dare say, require actual conversation, discussion and not just generic crap all day that doesn't interact in any way with the posts above or bellow... and that annoy me, but it works for them. I would love some tighter restriction on campaign management to disallow the flood or irrelevant posts but i dare think that Spam and Advertisement is going to go hand and hand forever. But basically, if you're doing faucet for money, you're doing it wrong. |
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If you are going to invest on high end asiic miners then sure it will be profitable... Mining has only one criteria.... Huge investment high returns... Low investment low profit or maybe loss...
You don't need high end ASIC, not to be confused with ascii. Mining has only one true criteria imo and that is your electricity price. For instance if you have electricity for near free, like some country or some people that have some deals, you could buy 10000 Antminer S1 for like 100k and make total bank. Of course it would be a silly endeavor since there would be more manageable investment, but it show in concept what the true common denominator is. |
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$0.2/GH is going to be hard to hit, I think. The best thing going right now is the S7 and that sells at what, about 38 cents per? I know prices are going to drop as more stuff appears, and I'll do the best I can but twenty cents is a hard target. That's about what a year-old S3 is selling for right now.
The $/GH on the stick, I've said it before and I'll say it again it's the best ever $/GH for a stick miner and I can't make it any cheaper. I know you're not complaining, but I'll reiterate the fact regardless. Something like a pod with about eight times the hashrate and only three times the price, I'd like to see that get going but my guys tell me it wouldn't sell either. I just have to wait and hope SPTech can come through for us with chips and I can do something good with 'em, and in the meantime keep selling Compacs and PSUs.
Regarding something community-funded, I do believe one of Kickstarter's rules for a hardware project is you have to have a working prototype before running the campaign. They'll fund manufacture but not development. I like that rule, and we try to run the same way. The first step on the path to BFL is conning someone else into funding your development. Well the first step on the path to BFL is apparently hiring known scammers to run your business, but the second step is getting folks to fund your development.
I don't know about doing TypeZero boards and a pod concurrently. The pod would come first since I'd much rather have something small and less complex to work on as far as ironing out control systems and multi-chip comms. The only real difference between the pod and the full-scale board would be chip count and probably a beefier power system, but all the digitals would transfer straight across so there wouldn't be much time between a pod and the full-size boards. I can work on non-control parts of the big boards while waiting on prototype parts to assemble and test the small boards.
If I had the money from a single typical vaporware scam sale (not even the whole scam, just a single customer's purchase) I could probably afford dev for the entire project.
I understand. The 0.2 target was calculated with S5/S5 chips. For instance 300$/1300gh=0.23$/gh and i figure by the time your project go from dev to production to hitting people's door, it would have to be a bit lower still. Of course if you do it at 0.1-0.15 J/GH the price per GH would naturally have to be higher. And i know the USB was a toy and i'm glad i got one, in the end it i paid 45$~ for one and it was to support the project and play with it. But to put in more money it would have to be something closer to 0.2$/GH than 1-2$/GH, of course higher depending on the efficiency, but i was comparing it to the current stick's efficiency. Basically whatever you build has to fill a niche that beat other's in that category, either it be noise or price at various efficiency. Anyways thats how i see it. And thats why i got one stick, since it beat all other sticks at awesomeness  |
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I have merely the one and i would like to sell it to someone who can buy a S7, since i can't. You'd have to get in the next S7 batch not later than Oct 12 0:00. Here is a picture i took; Picture Here!I can make you a personalized picture to prove i still have it, if you're interested in buying it. Escrow is okay if you want even though this is only 0.1BTC. |
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the profitability of the s5 remained untouched for 9 months
Nope. An S5 raw income dropped on average about 3.5% compounded PER MONTH from December 2014 to around July 2015, and unless your electric was FREE it lost more than that in profitability. then how come when i went on the calculator it say 0.01 then it was 0.011(0.012 peak) and now it is still 0.097? something must be utterly wrong if diff does matter so much p.s. i was checking constantly since january of this year Its because difficulty was pretty stable during this year, right now its going to go way up because of the next batch/ASIC manufacturer war which just started. Its winter so its a great time to start deploying a lot of miners. Pretty sure all the companies were just waiting for it. So expect S5 profitability for now to drop and everything should stabilize after the miners catch up with the next gen of hardware. |
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That's gonna depend on a lot of things coming together in a short amount of time. It took a lot longer to get the Compac ready than it probably should have, but a lot of that lost time was power issues. The buck design right now is pretty solid and wouldn't take much tweaking to power that chip at least moderately well - probably not all the way to the top, since that's close to a 40A draw and I really don't want to see that handled with a single phase. I could see 10W delivered to the chip, which would probably be about a 12W overall for the stick - for reference, we've pushed Compacs up to 15W input power but that was at a higher Vcore so the core current was lower and that's the real limiting factor for a regulator design.
Any dev this time would be much more heavily focused on software. I don't know a thing about Spondoolies' protocol except that it's both nonstandard and complex. Their rack gear uses an FPGA to translate between the controller and the chips, but Technobit implemented it in a micro on some of their Rockerbox things last year so I know that's possible. I'm sure it'd take a lot longer for Novak to figure out the code than it'll take for me to redesign the hardware for a stick.
There's still a whole lot of questions up in the air. All I'll say is it's not impossible.
I've been rolling the idea of a 4-chip CPU cooler pod for a couple days and so far I'm liking it. There's a few different options for how to flesh it out, so until we crunch the numbers on the best base design I won't know anything for sure. Again, it's not impossible.
If Spondoolies cooperates with sample chips (and they've historically been better at that than probably everyone except ASICMiner, may they rest in peace) the only real limiting factor will be dev capital. We've got a plan to free up dev time in the next few weeks, but having time doesn't always mean having money. All our income is based on sales, right now that's between Compac sticks and PSU hardware. Hosting is basically a breakeven concern and mining revenue accounts for maybe a hundred bucks a month. We run a tight ship and can operate pretty lean compared to a lot of shops, but the level of leanness we're running right now isn't really sustainable.
Thank you for the update sidehack, if its just funding, maybe we can come up with someone community funded, ala kickstarted but less vaporware. Personally i'd be willing to buy in early with what i can and i'm sure i'm not the only one who would crowdfund you. If the $/GH on the sticks were good i would totally buy tons of them to help you out but thats not doable, so i think there could be a lot of interest in something around or under 0.2$/GH. If you come up with a plan for such PCB's (upgrade for S1/S3 path) or a pod/cpuheatsink-cooled that is concurrent, i think you would do great, considering how many people throw money at vaporware pre-order. |
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I think you mean to say: " XFX GPUs PSUs are made by Seasonic."
Indeed. My bad! I think you mean to say: " XFX GPUs PSUs are made by Seasonic."
Sure and i meant Any XFX things, especially GPU and PSU. The problem is not which sticker it has and which company actually did the assembly, the problem i've had with XFX is how random the components used seem to come from. So in term of individual performance in the same serie, one unit may work fine and the other not. Also for all Seasonic PSU, its either hit or miss. Some are very good, some are on the PSU banned/do not buy list. There's no hit or miss with Seasonic, they're all excellent PSUs. Where have you seen a "do not buy" list of Seasonic PSUs? They can have defects like anyone else, sure, but their power supplies are a known quality; always great. Companies that use or have used Seasonic as an OEM, such as Corsair, XFX, Antec, Cooler Master, and probably a few more don't have a say in terms of what components are used inside the PSU. They can specify the looks of the PSU, the wires + number of connectors, and the modular connector styles, but not much else. The bigger domain for PSU is on Overclock.net http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-suppliesYou'll noticed the big XFX aren't on the list. There's a bad PSU list with quite a few seasonic on it, too. I don't see that bad PSU list anywhere? The fact that they don't have an XFX in the 1000-1700w list means nothing. They have the following Seasonic units iin the 1000-1700w bracket, and the XFX PSUs are the exact same thing minus the name and case:  I'd suggest you spend some time reading reviews on jonnyguru, which is by far the most trusted PSU review site on the web. The reviews by OklahomaWolf are my favourites. You seemed to have missed what i said; Its branding, actual manufacture plants don't actually all belong to the same company manufacturing them. There are bad psu Series made from the same company and some manufactures batch will use cheaper part, this result in both bath series and bad batch. It even happen with Corsairs, so saying "Corsair or Seasonic only made good PSU" is inaccurate. This is hella offtopic, but we can go in another thread if you want. |
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I think you mean to say: " XFX GPUs PSUs are made by Seasonic."
Indeed. My bad! I think you mean to say: " XFX GPUs PSUs are made by Seasonic."
Sure and i meant Any XFX things, especially GPU and PSU. The problem is not which sticker it has and which company actually did the assembly, the problem i've had with XFX is how random the components used seem to come from. So in term of individual performance in the same serie, one unit may work fine and the other not. Also for all Seasonic PSU, its either hit or miss. Some are very good, some are on the PSU banned/do not buy list. There's no hit or miss with Seasonic, they're all excellent PSUs. Where have you seen a "do not buy" list of Seasonic PSUs? They can have defects like anyone else, sure, but their power supplies are a known quality; always great. Companies that use or have used Seasonic as an OEM, such as Corsair, XFX, Antec, Cooler Master, and probably a few more don't have a say in terms of what components are used inside the PSU. They can specify the looks of the PSU, the wires + number of connectors, and the modular connector styles, but not much else. The bigger domain for PSU is on Overclock.net http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-suppliesYou'll noticed the big XFX aren't on the list. There's a bad PSU list with quite a few seasonic on it, too. |
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A majority of the posts here are like that and have been for a long time. From what I can tell this is perfectly fine here so nothing will be done. You are allowed to post only to get paid here so long as you make it over a few words. Useless walls of text are also fine so long as they are somewhat on topic and not just a copy/paste from elsewhere. I am sure that guy probably has several accounts to farm the campaigns with.
This is very disappointing. I do not think his posts are adding anything to any of the conversations and can be generally be described as useless. The fact that he was making one post every 106.05 seconds, on average should be fairly solid evidence that he was not even reading the threads he was posting on. I agree with you, but thats the way it is around here. As long as "low post quality" is okay for the campaign he signed in, then he's clear. He's not breaking bylaws and he's absolutely not the only one. Like i just said, more than half the posts in Bitcoin Discussion is like that. Pages and pages of nonsense, so i don't blame legit people doing discussion from skipping the pages by the dozens. The topics are much more rich in hardware, market and support threads. |
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I think you mean to say: " XFX GPUs PSUs are made by Seasonic."
Sure and i meant Any XFX things, especially GPU and PSU. The problem is not which sticker it has and which company actually did the assembly, the problem i've had with XFX is how random the components used seem to come from. So in term of individual performance in the same serie, one unit may work fine and the other not. Also for all Seasonic PSU, its either hit or miss. Some are very good, some are on the PSU banned/do not buy list. |
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133Gh per chip
A 4amp 20w stick miner? in time for santa's flypast?
That sound pretty crazy, at 0.15 10w would be about 65GH. Maybe you could do 20w with proper cooling. It doesn't sound very doable in term of powering and cooling it efficiently for a USB stick, maybe for a pod design where you have a couple of chips and you cool it off with a CPU heatsink? |
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Yes,that is what I mean. You propably can take PWM and tacho signals straight from controller but you have to add external 12V and GND to extra fans. That's how I have done my extra fan designs for 8 S3 hashboards.
Ahhh i see. What did you use to do that? You're probably using Molex from the PSU to power the fans? Just seem a bit weird to be powering the fan from a different port than where you plug the PWM fan. Unless you used some kind of PWM hub? You plug the hub in the controller and then add a PSU to the hub, basically like a USB hub we commonly use? Also do you have a picture of that S3 stack? Just curious. |
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Sorry I'm not very good at explaining things. PWM signal is common for all fans,right? So you don't really have to worry about it. Speed (or tacho) is separate for both fans. That is what you have to think. Just look at schematic,it's pretty simple and I think it's commonly used in BM miners. http://kuvapilvi.fi/k/yDe1.jpgThanks, i'll read up on PWM to see how the speed is transmited, since i assumed it just changed the voltage so the fan is set to a speed. This look like the speed controller is on the fan itself? I'll also check on my GPU fan the next time i open up, since it does work with a y connector, but they're a bit different since they use a 3 pin and a 2 pin. I also thought at first that it's simply voltage driven,but it's not that simple.That's why I asked Alteras's signal levels.This circuit has some voltage dividing,and it is driven with 3V3 logic. I left some caps out of the schematic,to make it simpler.But that's the basic circuit. Thanks for giving me the simple version then, i'm pretty bad at circuitry, i actually skipped that part in school, haha. xD I did a bit of reading now and found this; http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162026&cm_re=pwm_splitter-_-12-162-026-_-ProductThis show me how i can do it myself or just grab a couple since they're nice and sleeved, more professional than what i could make myself with solder and electric tape. I still need to figure out how much power the controller can support, however. I'm basing on the S5+/S7 where the controller has a PCI-e connector just for itself, probably for all the fans a S5+ has and how many a S7 also have on a 3x setup. |
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Im happy to say i sold my S4 today for what i paid for it 9 months ago.. US$850
I leave this thread after many month of fun...
Later!
What country did you get 850? Mind saying where you sold it? Dang someone paid quite a bit more the going rate. Yeah i know its a bit disgusting, i was discussing this with lovenlifelarge in PM since he was telling me more about the S4 firmware. In short; I bought mine for 550CAD, it's worth a bit more, maybe 500+ US since its basically 5 S3 packaged in one and come with a PSU. But its definitively not worth 800USD+. People on Ebay are quite often idiots. They have no idea of the ROI and they buy stuff. Its like those super outdated sticks that sell for 50$. Then they come complain here and ask why the pool isint sending them millions of BTC, instead they just get a few sats... For 800USD i'd sell my own S4. |
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Sorry I'm not very good at explaining things. PWM signal is common for all fans,right? So you don't really have to worry about it. Speed (or tacho) is separate for both fans. That is what you have to think. Just look at schematic,it's pretty simple and I think it's commonly used in BM miners. http://kuvapilvi.fi/k/yDe1.jpgThanks, i'll read up on PWM to see how the speed is transmited, since i assumed it just changed the voltage so the fan is set to a speed. This look like the speed controller is on the fan itself? I'll also check on my GPU fan the next time i open up, since it does work with a y connector, but they're a bit different since they use a 3 pin and a 2 pin. |
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Well some people saying even after the fail of the paycoin promises ,josh has another project running or some of his believers dont know well.
there are lots of rumors. some say he's involved in scryptcc since he was shilling for them at one point... wouldn't surprise me at all. Nah, he's too dumb to be involved with scrypt.cc - Whoever is operating that scam-mountain is quite smart actually, because they are still getting away with it, and no one really knows who or what criminal gang is actually running it.  Maybe he "invested" in scrypt.cc. Or LTCGear. Waiting until "Chris" ships his Vaultbreakers. Yes, don't let me reveal that those are obvious vap- *muffled sound, never to be heard from again*. I'm a bit annoyed i lost money in XPY, because of all the hints that was on this forum while i wasn't participating here. And all the facts were getting gagged out on Hashtalk from the mods. |
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I'm happy with these:  Done the job for 2 years straight! The corsair one is decent, its ridiculously overpriced but its in no way bad, at all. I would use it for sure if i had it, though i would never pay that much for a PSU that has lower end components than the G2, even though it has marginally better efficiency. At full load, it does not really have better efficiency. It doesn't handle overload as well as the EVGA's, you will not see such a tight ripple effect and as stable voltage(Though completely acceptable). And i honestly don't know how well it would handle 1300-1350W load from OC'ing the miner, while the EVGA G2 1300w will handle it. Still for the S7 run around normal clock, the corsair one is great.I wouldn't touch XFX hardware, PSU nor GPU. |
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Et c'est plutôt cela le problème ... tu arriveras à écouler 20 BTC ... mais ça veut dire que tu as des joueurs à 60-100 BTC à coté qui utilisent des bots.
C'est ce qui se passe sur Kraken ... et c'est pour ça que dépasser 5 BTC en vente ou achat pose des problèmes de fluidité.
Et comme les dump n'arrivent que 2-3 fois par semaine (et souvent pas aux mêmes niveaux que précédemment) ... d'où le "risque" dont je parlais.
Ok donc si je vous écoute tout les deux les Bitcoins sont "difficile" à vendre comme ça, il n'est donc pas possible de se faire de gros bénéfices et achetant et vendant "gros" (du moins de la façon dont je vous ai exposer mon idée ) ? Car je peut sans problème commencer avec 5000€ ou 10 000€ (Enfin bien moins pour démarrer bien sûr je suis pas fou non plus). Tu peux regarder dans la colonne SELL pour voir combien de liquidité il y a et voir si c'est possible de le faire. Ensuite tu regarde dans la collone BUY de l'autre site si il y a aussi asser de liquidité. En bref si il y a 0.05BTC sell at ton 210EURO et 0.05BUY at ton 270 EURO, tu va faire 3EURO profit. Lautre truc c'est que deposé et retirer des sites et les échanges eux même ont des fees. Donc tu dois enlevé ça de ton 3EURO. A moins que tu trouve plusieurs BTC de liquidité pour faire ça, tu va pas te faire grand chose. |
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21 inc.
Psff, you'll loose every cent.
Advice, walk away from Crypto Currency and never look back, everything is a scam muchacho.
I'm not even sure what you would want to do with it. It kind of sound like a gimmick machine, it doesn't do anything special, is expensive and its performance is most likely as limited as how vaguely they talk about their own product. Basically, what do you even want to do with that? |
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It looks like you guys like to check different PSU combos while the good old EVGA 1300 with two PCie splitters (put on two single red cables) is perfectly up for the job.
People like to cheap out on PSU for some reason. Personally i'm going pure EVGA. I started with EVGA, then got some server PSUs with high efficiency and a cheaper Gold PSU but its kind of an hassle and the price wasnt much lower than some good old EVGA G2. They even run great at 100% load, so for a antminer S7, i would definitively go for a EVGA G2 1300. The 10years warranty doesn't hurt either. |
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