So far we have honored each and every withdrawal request.
That is what every scammer says while they're in the "building trust" phase of the scam. Try going to any Ponzi scam thread and warning that it is a scam. Their first defence is always "but we are paying"... Well dog, I thought you said you will stay away from here last time, or am I mistaken? Or is our growth still bothering you? Anyway, you should know better that a dice site is not a ponzi scheme, can't even be compared to a ponzi. We deal with players here at dadice. If they win they withdraw their profits, if they loose they loose. Just to inform you what a ponzi is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_schemeI'm not good at staying away, sorry. I don't know if you are growing or not, and I'm not bothered whether you are or not. I didn't say you were a Ponzi scheme. I said that your "so far we are still allowing withdrawals" argument is typical of Ponzi schemes. I know what a Ponzi scheme is, thanks.
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It is unfair that so many people on default list gave dadice and dadice staff neg rate and dadice has never scammed anyone.
There's no point leaving feedback after a site has run off with everyone's coins and shut down. The time to warn people is before it's too late, not after. But see this real scam site btcbook.eu, OP only gets 1 neg trust, it is very obvious that those people have double standards against scams, gave you innocent guys with red trust, but don't give real scam neg turst?
I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I didn't leave feedback for btcbook.eu is that this is the very first time I heard of them. It's not my job to make sure I leave negative feedback for every dodgy site out there. If I see something suspicious, I mention it. DaDice's behaviour seems suspicious to me, so I mentioned it. I don't think anyone can know yet whether DaDice is going to scam their players or not. There's no proof either way. I can't say it's a scam, and I don't think you can be sure that it isn't. DaDice probably gets more attention because they pay to have more attention. There's probably nobody on this forum who hasn't seen a DaDice ad whereas btcbook.eu are relatively obscure.
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So far we have honored each and every withdrawal request.
That is what every scammer says while they're in the "building trust" phase of the scam. Try going to any Ponzi scam thread and warning that it is a scam. Their first defence is always "but we are paying"...
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Hello. I am a newbie on your site, and I have a question. What does this message means in Chat: "12:41:21 INFO: we just staked 1.0000 CLAM (total = 196,718.5558; your share = 0.00000014; your total = 0.00012216)" and when does this summ "CLAMS" added?
CLAM is proof-of-stake. You earn coins just by holding them. When you invest in JD, JD earns coins just by holding your coins. We give 90% of the earned rewards back to you. That line is saying that we've earned a total of 196k CLAM from staking, the of the 1 CLAM we just earned you got 14 satoshis, and that in total you have earned 12216 satoshis from staking. It's added to your investment when the message is displayed, in real time.
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is there a way to participate in JD's staking power without being exposed to the investment risk from gambling?
There's no way of being exposed to no risk, but by default you are exposed to very little risk. See the FAQ about "offsite investing". Many investors use that feature to increase their risk (and in so doing, to reduce yours).
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CLAM is not % based. dooglus will likely chime in shortly on what one might expect for a "percentage" return, but this return is entirely dependent on difficulty and other factors.
Are you a witch or something? That's uncanny... Anyway. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just-Dice has 513k CLAMs and stakes about 1200 times per day: >>> 1200 / 513e3 * 100 0.23391812865497078 So that's 0.234% per day. (JD investors pay 10% commission on staking rewards, so should get ~0.21%) You can expect the same, but with higher variance. And the rate will decline over time, since the global rate is a constant (1 per minute) but the total active staking money supply is growing.
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Thats the list I want to publish. One written by a programmer first, gambler second, and a hardcore cryptography enthusiast who's also pretty decently well versed in probability and statistics. It's readily apparent we need it.
I've been thinking the same thing. I'm not really in a position to make such a list, since people would think I'm biased. But when I see people like these sawdice jokers knocking good provably fair systems for silly reasons like "the server seed doesn't change every roll" it makes me want to...
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You are the only dice site that no auto-bet feature. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) And probably the only one that doesn't advertise, and one of the few to allow players to have themselves banned from betting. You'll never see us posting here encouraging anyone to bet. Those "look how much this guy just won, see how easy it is, you should try it too!" posts made by other sites make me feel ill. It isn't easy to beat the house edge, and it isn't "easy money". Pretending that it is feels bad to me. For similar reasons we don't offer an auto-bet feature so that delusional players can run their "system" while they sleep...
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if they were a scam i dont think they would give news about their website and problems they have
Why not? They almost never just say "OK, you were right, it was a scam". There are always vaguely plausible excuses: "a rogue employee deployed a nonce-skipper", "transaction maleability drained the cold wallets", "our site was hacked", etc. dice.ninja was the cleanest in that respect - they just disappeared one day and that was that.
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I wonder if this is just temporary, or if there is a legitimate issue with sawdice? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess there's been no official statement about it yet anywhere.
But coming so close to the deadline for them to prove their cold storages, and the end of the 0% house edge...eh...
There's clearly a legitimate issue with them... they have no limit on how much you can bet, but had admitted to having less than 1000 BTC available to pay out winners with. So by their own admission they are happy to accept bets which they know in advance they have no way of paying out if you happen to win.
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FWIW -- I first tried dropping in the bootstrap w/o deleting the existing blockchain files (was pretty sure I needed to having used a bootstrap once before, but deletion wasn't apparent in the instructions), but it didn't import, just continued normally. So I stopped, deleted the files, restarted, and then it announced it was importing blocks. That may have been what happened with others.
Hmmm. It should import blocks from bootstrap.dat whenever it exists, without having to delete the existing blockchain. I guess it could take a while to get to the new blocks, since it will start at the beginning, and have to skip all the blocks it already has, but it should still work. I think a little more clarity in the instructions would help a lot with this.
OP recently said she needs to tidy up the first post. I'm sure your feedback will be helpful in that regard.
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This is so risky, if one of the chain will be abbandone you will lose all your coin ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) and this why all the community is worried (it is only a question of money, and it is really a tall order for gavin). If Gavin launches his altcoin forked from Bitcoin, everyone who currently has Bitcoin will have the same number of Gavincoin. When his altcoin fades into obscurity, the original Bitcoins will still exist. Shortly after launch you may be able to sell your Gavincoins in exchange for extra real Bitcoins (or vice versa, if you think the altcoin will 'win') before the price drops significantly. But that's a gamble. It's safest just to hold both until you see which is going to 'win'.
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The fact that they're intentionally delaying giving out the cold storage wallet (well, there's no real valid reason for a delay) sets off massive alarm bells already. It's not exactly something that requires you to make lots of database queries and spend hours upon hours finding, is it?
I guess it's possible their 5 figure sum of BTC is split over 1000 different paper wallets, and it was going to take them 2 or 3 days to collect it all into a single address, but it's been long enough now that at least some kind of update would be useful.
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Thanks for the follow up! Took near an hour to download the file, but then made a new backup directory (now at "9 weeks behind"), deleted the blockchain associated files, dropped in the bootstrap, and fired off the QT again. Appears to be importing the weeks at a two to three minute clip, a huge improvement. Will update when it's done.
I'm glad to hear it. I see a lot of people complain that "bootstrap.dat doesn't make any difference". I think they must all be doing it wrong somehow, but they rarely stick around long enough for me to help them.
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Trevor,
Keep the clam.conf -- it contains the lists of nodes.
You simply put the bootstrap.dat file in the data directory for clam and it loads the blockchain from it...
I don't think anyone told him where to find a copy of bootstrap.dat. TrevorS, you should click here and follow the instructions.
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I made a chart of the last month or so, labelling all the big wins and losses: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FneXMWaY.png&t=664&c=mCKG2wqMO_N8lA)
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The order in which you list transactions isn't ideal. For example, here are two outputs staking and splitting: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSK4eknG.png&t=664&c=YF7hdGbF1UYdJg) It's from this page. The top one shows the input first, and the other shows the outputs first. It would be good if the order was consistent. Also, in the transaction view, you list the inputs in order of their txid. It would be more useful to list them in the order they appear in the transaction's vin array: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWiZHd8V.png&t=664&c=I1Hq1GnvqJSo6A) That's this tx. Finally, I don't see any links in the transaction view from spent outputs to the transaction which spent them. For example, here we see an 18.37 CLAM output staking to become worth 19.37 CLAMs. What happened next? Did it stake again to become 20.37 CLAMs? I can't tell using your block explorer. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfH6JbZw.png&t=664&c=sO90dFlcdEnM0A) Compare with the corresponding khashier page: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWM4rxeJ.png&t=664&c=2qioDqXl-j2nRA) That 'spent' link tells me it has been spent, and takes me to the transaction that spent it: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhfouSlp.png&t=664&c=KKC-dnuPbdz2WQ) So I see in fact it did stake again to 20.37 CLAM, and then there's another 'spent' link, allowing me to trace the output off into the future.
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@dooglus, I think you're looking less-and-less classy the more you troll these guys. It's not your usual style. It's not the style I've seen from you in the past. Just sayin'
I've always been kind of an asshole. Maybe you're only just noticing it now. But you're right; it isn't helpful here. I've made my point and will try to refrain from commenting further.
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DaDice is "next generation". Mobile is the current generation.
The kinds of devices that DaDice is optimised for don't even exist yet.
lol. I love that.. BTW, you put that as quoting I said it. I wish i was that witty. Oh, thanks. I hadn't noticed I messed up the quoting. Fixed now. Next generation device? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPLcuPJe.jpg&t=664&c=X1nSVFFODyc7iA)
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Nice catch I'll have it changed with tomorrows update, sorry no bounties for typos ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's all I could find to complain about. Other than in the ad I saw, the speech bubble looks weird since it's coming from the girl's brain, not her mouth. I don't read a lot of comics, but don't they usually 'point at' the mouth? Oh, and the text could use a bit of proof-reading: "BetterBets stated purpose is to provide [...]" You need an apostrophe in that first word. The rest of the text looked alright at first glance. I'd probably say "satoshis" not "Satoshi" for the 1e-8 BTC units, but that's just a nitpick.
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