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3341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: August 02, 2014, 08:06:26 AM
Well just look at that, up by 95% today from around 0.00009 AUR/BTC up to 0.000175 AUR/BTC, https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/160. Is it a pump or a true comeback?

Looks to me like a single buyer or two. Not trying to sustain a pump. Just went in an bought ~10K, not caring about slippage. Then did it again (or someone else).
3342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: August 01, 2014, 05:34:30 PM
i think it would have been better to send every icelander bottlecaps in the mail to replace their crona because they would have been easier adopted than this constantly more worthless shitcoin. Let's see what happens when it is traded at 2000$ cap and if that helps the manipulation afterwards?
The hostile stance towards gains and speculation will kill this coin and make it highly manipulated. Because the whales just eat it all for nothing and then you are crying in the end. The logic is flawed. Anyways. This fails because you give the coins to the whales for free. They are happy to keep gobbling it up. These cheap coins really only benefit the whales and it is breeding a highly manipulated market in the future. Either it dies because noones supports it or the whales have it all in the end. Well done being hostile towards gains and investement. Send them bottlecaps in the mail is better, i tell you.

It is also shocking nobody feels responsible. Fuckin muricans. Murican failcoin.


Beat the investors to death and see what you will gain. HAHAHAHA

Let this market be cornered by whales. You are doing a great job!

This hostile blabla towards gains and speculators is utter nonsense.

much anger, but also quite a bit of truth in there.
3343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2014, 04:14:19 PM
So what will happen when GABI must buy the other initial BTC ? tomorrow they start trading

They start trading on 1. September. And 200mil $ is planned till end of the year (as far as I understood).

better buy them 200 millions worth of coins NOW. should result in more coins. maybe they have bought already?
3344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2014, 04:12:51 PM
Can you believe there are still people selling?

Of course I can. We might all be a little overexcited maybe?

I can imagine many of the longs on bitfinex are relieved and closing them or reducing exposure.
3345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 01, 2014, 04:04:58 PM

Did anyone read Rickards new book "The Death of Money"?
3346  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 01, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
Geht jetzt die Party wieder los?

Wird auch Zeit, sonst wird's wieder Winter und wir hatten immer noch keine BTC1K party.

Ich glaub aber es dauert noch... ab $680 werd ich wieder hibbelig.
3347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 01, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
6.  look the hell out.

what was it? "the flight to safety"? "the run on bitcoin"?
3348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2014, 03:52:14 PM

CCMF

that is one hell of a shot!
3349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2014, 03:51:06 PM
Next magic nr. 680.

Easy now. $620 first.

And don't forget the dreaded 666.

3350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2014, 03:49:34 PM

very well quoted.
3351  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 01, 2014, 08:30:29 AM
Thanks ErisDiscordia for your excellent post and especially for quoting from R. A. Wilsons "Prometheus Rising", a book that has greatly influenced me when I first read it a good 20 years back.

I think you have correctly identified a large part of humanities current problem as a resource distribution problem.
(btw: when I say "resource" I mean natural resources, like fossil fuel, fertile soil, water, metals, etc.... I specifically exempt human labour, I don't view that as a resource... in fact I think we should largely do away with the whole concept)

There are many suggestions how to solve this problem (how can we all live happily without destroying earth), some of which I like, some of which I don't like. I don't want to go into them but try to take kind of a broader view. Let's start with some facts:


If one accepts these facts, one can derive that in order to organize efficient resource use one needs to utilitze a decentralized sound money (can't be centralized, can't have elastic supply, must be money).

I know I'm mostly preaching to the choir and/or sounding like a broken record, but I must say: I truly think the single most effective measure we can take for more prosperous conditions for humanity is the widespread use of sound money on a global scale (like Bitcoin, you guessed it). This has the potential to solve many problems in one fell swoop without having to administer more specific measures in a top-down coercive manner. With sound money things like price signals and saving actually work. Bad actions are punished and good ones rewarded. The way it should be.

We already started our first steps on this path. Let me lay out in rough terms how it could go down:

  • liquid global sound money is invented (crypto)
  • people use it as a speculative commodity and increasingly as store of wealth (good money drives out bad)
  • people increasingly value bitcoin as the best way to save their wealth and since it's also easily transactable globally, it gains traction for payments, in turn increasing its value for store-of-wealth (positive feedback loop)
  • the fiat currencies continue their race to the bottom. Wealth is increasingly being stored in hard assets (land, art, companies, crypto,...). Not sure wether the banking system will collapse or adapt, but the economy will survive (not without a good cleanup, though). There will be much debate (and fighting) about who owns what (except with crypto, on that front it's quite clear: whoever has access to the private keys can spend)
  • with fiat growing increasingly irrelevant, governments crumble or downsize considerably becoming fiscally prudent or non-existant in the process. Maybe different organizational structures (rules?) of differing sizes and shapes might evolve.
  • same goes for big corporations: they'll either fail or adapt (regulatory capture and corruption don't work well any more)
  • things like global surveillance of the population, wars, etc will become much less common because noone wants to pay for that stuff
  • we have a largely level playing field, honest work and good innovation is being rewarded while bad action is being punished (failures allowed to happen, no lender of last resort, incentive to not fuck up). This should lead to more efficient use of resources.
  • existental fears are much less widespread
  • Largely in control of our own well-being, we all lead a mostly happy and prosperous life.

Now maybe it's naive to believe things can evolve like that and actually lead to later points (I also omitted some important things, like who controls public opinion), but I'm willing to try to take the chance and continue spreading the use of crypto.

;tldr: the use of sound money is the single most effective measure we can take to improve (or prolong) our collective well-being (on a side-note: I also think the use of crypto (mainly Bitcoin) as a store of wealth is the single most effective measure one can take to improve and prolong his personal well-being)
3352  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 01, 2014, 07:12:29 AM

Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_market
3353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 01, 2014, 07:02:55 AM
Time to rocket up.

I love how Cypher has essentially discontinued his private news letter and has now given a quasi-version of his letter publicly in this thread.

Loving it.  Grin Grin Grin

if you'll remember, i established the newsletter cuz i was getting tired of sharing my ideas only to be heavily trolled here in this thread.  figured i'd just share with the ppl who appreciated me.

did that, was highly successful, trolling here mostly disappeared, i got tired of publishing it, and now i'm right back here still doing it.  Grin

well: thank you. One of my favorite threads.
3354  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: July 31, 2014, 09:47:58 PM
got mine also.. but I will not open this and wait until I can buy an ordinary one Smiley

i guess in 20 Years an unopened package of first edition trezors will be worth than 10 BTC

$5000? possible. 10 BTC? probably not.
3355  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: July 30, 2014, 05:33:04 PM
How much has everyone been paying for these, the one on ebay seems a bit expensive but ive got nothing to compare that price to. Also are there any still available?

Just wait a little bit until they are available in satoshilabs shop.
3356  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: July 30, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
The packaging is nice.
But the casing seams a bit fragile. If you press on it, you can here little cracks , I think metal would be a lot better.

I'm waiting if they will release again metal at good price and would consider buy a new one and keep plastic one as backup  Wink


Strangely enough I like the plastic ones better than my metal one. Not sure why, probably because the plastic ones are new and the metal one I already got used to Wink
3357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: July 30, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
the airdrop has to be stopped immediatelly, if not, lets truly make a fork.

I don't know if/why/what, but it seems the airdrop is somehow halted. Either that, or no one is claiming any more: there are only about 3 transactions of 318 AUR per day since about 1.5 days.

Anyone know what's up?

Can someone with an Icelandic IP check what the claim page says?

3358  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: July 29, 2014, 09:33:40 PM
I was very happy to see the mailman today ;-)



my friends will be happy, too.
3359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: July 29, 2014, 09:25:48 PM
strange indeed ontopicplease.

I don't know who controls the airdrop and I don't know who would know, either.
3360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: July 28, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
aurora still falling.. now at 0,00006300

who ever that genius is, responsible for the idea of a second airdrop with factor 10, he has absolutely NO IDEA about how market regulates itself.

he wont create a greater demand by devaluating a coin, its just stupid.

it doesnt matter how you look at it, it makes no sense at all... bye auroracoin

looks like aur has lost 99,9647% of its worth lololol

what a waste of money and time

sorry for your loss, kkcoin.

if you think the intention of the guy who decided to do a 10x airdrop was to "create demand" or "reach high price", you are mighty naive.

bye kkcoin
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