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3341  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 21, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
At first I thought people who believe the Earth is flat are stupid.

But then I realized those people are not stupid. They are educated professionals and they know what they are saying.
I'm not saying I accept the Earth is flat, but I can see what they are saying have sense and explanation.

Yeah? Where have you seen that? Literally 99.99% of scientists know the earth is not flat and this has been proven thousands of years ago, there is no point in even debating. It's not like debating about evolution for example, the earth being round has been proven beyond any doubt.
3342  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 21, 2017, 01:49:58 AM
Go apply to NASA to verify if what are they doing are true. Since they are the one who went outside of this Earth and took those photos.  Grin Grin

all NASA's photos and videos are made in Hollywood, everyone knows it  Grin

Tell them Nikola. Smiley Just to make you a little bit, not all in Hollywood ...... there's something in the Cheesy photoshop as a footage of Earth from our universe. They admitted themselves.


ionako momci, slažem se s onim što je rekao. Samo sam mu htio reći nešto na našem jeziku Wink

How much is a "little bit"?



You can read it yourself but your 10 IQ brain didn't understand it. They ''admitted'' using photoshop because they do use photoshop but not to create the image from zero, just to stitch different parts of earth together because they cannot always take a picture of the full earth. However each part of the photoshopped pictre is still real.

Did this post make you a "little bit"?

I know your brain cannot understand much but I still haven't seen any photos/videos of the flat earth yet or the dome or anything that would prove the earth is flat, seems strange.
3343  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ Bitvest.io - Plinko Sig. Campaign ★☆★ (JR-Hero Accepted) on: December 20, 2017, 10:30:04 AM
What the heck is even going on in here?!

First off, we have been running a 2 week round due to the escrow not being refilled in time (which it has been since then, I've received an escrow refill yesterday).
Since most of you are already familiar with the process of two week rounds, I didn't make a post about that (I apologize if someone was confused by that).

As for applications, the first reply clearly states I will review application with every payround,
and I will only make new enrollments with the payround, and not before.
Thus no review of applications/new enrollments so far.

That being said, this campaign has been running for 1.5 years now, and everyone has been paid, for every round.
Nobody was scammed, and nobody will be scammed.
If you dislike the way I handle and manage campaigns, do not apply for one, and dont enroll into one.
Thanks.



that wallet you talking about has 0.1 btc  and it has to be escrow for many compaign  like this and 777
The escrow is only used for this campaign.

Cool, I defended you too but are we going in a 3rd week or what?
3344  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 20, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Go apply to NASA to verify if what are they doing are true. Since they are the one who went outside of this Earth and took those photos.  Grin Grin

all NASA's photos and videos are made in Hollywood, everyone knows it  Grin

Tell them Nikola. Smiley Just to make you a little bit, not all in Hollywood ...... there's something in the Cheesy photoshop as a footage of Earth from our universe. They admitted themselves.


ionako momci, slažem se s onim što je rekao. Samo sam mu htio reći nešto na našem jeziku Wink

How much is a "little bit"?



You can read it yourself but your 10 IQ brain didn't understand it. They ''admitted'' using photoshop because they do use photoshop but not to create the image from zero, just to stitch different parts of earth together because they cannot always take a picture of the full earth. However each part of the photoshopped pictre is still real.
3345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 19, 2017, 11:39:43 AM
They as in we don't it is that we don't understand what you are doing by believing. Alternatively if you flip the script those who believe in religion don't understand why we do not believe in religion. The debate is endless and the only way to resolve it is by proving god once and for all exists or does not exist which is impossible. Hence the debate is endless for this reason.

It's quite easy to prove the god from the bible does not exist because we have proven miracles don't exist or prayer doesn't work.
3346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 18, 2017, 05:48:38 PM
You are dodging the question, though.

I ask him outright questions.  He simply parrots them back to me with a couple words changed.

How can he answer such questions without proving once and for all his is a liar and troll?

I know he wont ever accept the truth, he will keep lying to himself to further feed his delusion. At this point I'm convinced he is delusional past the ''normal'' point.
3347  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 18, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
assumptions which cannot be proven -- can be expressed as mathematical equations. And that means they can be proven.

You just assume all equations can be proven.  I agree that assumption cannot be proven.

Therefore your conclusion that a god exists is just an assumption. 

Cool

Bravo! An A+ in political science for you. More and more political science from you is all we need. The more you blab, the more you show that you are stupidity's excuse for existence.

 Cool

All your proof is circular reasoning that when applied to something else can prove something else.

Most of your talk is political science blabbing, since you can't use any factual science to show that cause and effect, entropy, and complexity don't prove the existence of God.

Cool

The factual science that doesn't say everything has a cause? In what science does it say that everything has a cause?

All science shows it. It doesn't have to be said. The greater the scientist, the more he/she uses cause and effect.

Cool

Name one science that says or shows that everything has a cause and I will agree with you even though it wont prove god.
3348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 18, 2017, 11:41:49 AM

You said that not everything has a cause a few posts ago, what is it? Does everything have a cause or not, quit contradicting yourself.
When you read it in context, there is no contradiction.



Science has never answered the question of whether the universe is deterministic or not, stop fucking lying or show me the evidence.
You haven't explained what determinism has to do with the things that I have said.


Quantum this and that is theory. Theory has not been proven to be fact, because opposing theory can be proposed.



https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.
Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.



''There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause.'' There isn't any proof that it is an effect of a cause either.

The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist. Then, some scientists and engineers build equipment that makes a radioactive element - using C&E, by the way - that didn't exist a moment ago. Then the new element decays because of its radioactivity, and is gone, often in less than a second. Scientists are the cause. The new element and its radioactivity are the effect.


Furthermore. If you don't think that C&E is all-inclusive in the face of all the billions of operations that exist that show it to exist, why would you even begin to think that evolution exists when scientists have barely produced anything that they can feel even reasonably sure that it is evolution? Since you doubt that overwhelmingly massive evidence of C&E, why would you even focus on the one or two things that might show evolution as a possibility, to say nothing about acknowledging them, and then to state for a fact that they exist?

You are a bit backwards in this.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you are helping to prove it.

Cool

You still haven't explained anything and still haven't proved that everything has a cause. You keep saying the same thing. Where is the proof that everything has a cause? That's also not known to be a fact and no one claims it's a fact but you. Do you have evidence that everything has a cause?
In what context you can say that everything has a cause but there is something without a cause?

''Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.'' How lol if everything has a cause, there is no free will.
''The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist.'' What?
You are not a scientist and you are not a physicist yet you talk about these things like you know it all, it just shows how deluded you are. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE, IMPOSSIBLE.

If you don't know what a deterministic universe means it just shows that you don't even know what you are talking about. Some philosophers think the universe is deterministic (nothing is ever random) and some don't. There is no answer to this, no one knows and you don't know either.

You're just jealous that you can't explain anything, and that you now see that evolution is a hoax.

I would feel bad if my pet ideas turned out to be nothing, just like yours are for you.

Cool

When you prove that everything has a cause and then that something doesn't have a cause at the same time, I will agree with you and I will call evolution not true, meanwhile, since you can't prove any of that (no one can) I will still defend evolution.

This is no different than anyone else who supports and defends his religion.

Evolution is a hoax by its own science.

Cool

You are dodging the question, though.
3349  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 18, 2017, 11:27:47 AM
assumptions which cannot be proven -- can be expressed as mathematical equations. And that means they can be proven.

You just assume all equations can be proven.  I agree that assumption cannot be proven.

Therefore your conclusion that a god exists is just an assumption. 

Cool

Bravo! An A+ in political science for you. More and more political science from you is all we need. The more you blab, the more you show that you are stupidity's excuse for existence.

 Cool

All your proof is circular reasoning that when applied to something else can prove something else.

Most of your talk is political science blabbing, since you can't use any factual science to show that cause and effect, entropy, and complexity don't prove the existence of God.

Cool

The factual science that doesn't say everything has a cause? In what science does it say that everything has a cause?
3350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 18, 2017, 11:26:49 AM

You said that not everything has a cause a few posts ago, what is it? Does everything have a cause or not, quit contradicting yourself.
When you read it in context, there is no contradiction.



Science has never answered the question of whether the universe is deterministic or not, stop fucking lying or show me the evidence.
You haven't explained what determinism has to do with the things that I have said.


Quantum this and that is theory. Theory has not been proven to be fact, because opposing theory can be proposed.



https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.
Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.



''There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause.'' There isn't any proof that it is an effect of a cause either.

The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist. Then, some scientists and engineers build equipment that makes a radioactive element - using C&E, by the way - that didn't exist a moment ago. Then the new element decays because of its radioactivity, and is gone, often in less than a second. Scientists are the cause. The new element and its radioactivity are the effect.


Furthermore. If you don't think that C&E is all-inclusive in the face of all the billions of operations that exist that show it to exist, why would you even begin to think that evolution exists when scientists have barely produced anything that they can feel even reasonably sure that it is evolution? Since you doubt that overwhelmingly massive evidence of C&E, why would you even focus on the one or two things that might show evolution as a possibility, to say nothing about acknowledging them, and then to state for a fact that they exist?

You are a bit backwards in this.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you are helping to prove it.

Cool

You still haven't explained anything and still haven't proved that everything has a cause. You keep saying the same thing. Where is the proof that everything has a cause? That's also not known to be a fact and no one claims it's a fact but you. Do you have evidence that everything has a cause?
In what context you can say that everything has a cause but there is something without a cause?

''Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.'' How lol if everything has a cause, there is no free will.
''The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist.'' What?
You are not a scientist and you are not a physicist yet you talk about these things like you know it all, it just shows how deluded you are. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE, IMPOSSIBLE.

If you don't know what a deterministic universe means it just shows that you don't even know what you are talking about. Some philosophers think the universe is deterministic (nothing is ever random) and some don't. There is no answer to this, no one knows and you don't know either.

You're just jealous that you can't explain anything, and that you now see that evolution is a hoax.

I would feel bad if my pet ideas turned out to be nothing, just like yours are for you.

Cool

When you prove that everything has a cause and then that something doesn't have a cause at the same time, I will agree with you and I will call evolution not true, meanwhile, since you can't prove any of that (no one can) I will still defend evolution.
3351  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ Bitvest.io - Plinko Sig. Campaign ★☆★ (JR-Hero Accepted) on: December 18, 2017, 11:00:34 AM
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 free traffic is nice

a dirty scam

I have been here for months and they always pay lol. No one forces you to participate here but you should read before posting garbage.

December 05, 2017, 11:56:15 PM
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See how he says there are no new enrollments and to apply to 777coin? People don't read that usually. Also you are a newbie and only jr+ are accepted.

3352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 18, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
The fact that I can feel God, strengthens my belief in Him.

Cool

That's called schizophrenia.

Since you are setting yourself up in your mind as God, by knowing trhings that oppose the things that God knows, you are schizo, by your own determination.

Cool

Since you claim to know things without any proof and think magical creatures exist I would say it's pretty clear you suffer from some mental disorder. Anyways, nothing is random so god cannot punish me for not believing in him Cool
3353  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 18, 2017, 10:53:56 AM
assumptions which cannot be proven -- can be expressed as mathematical equations. And that means they can be proven.

You just assume all equations can be proven.  I agree that assumption cannot be proven.

Therefore your conclusion that a god exists is just an assumption. 

Cool

Bravo! An A+ in political science for you. More and more political science from you is all we need. The more you blab, the more you show that you are stupidity's excuse for existence.

 Cool

All your proof is circular reasoning that when applied to something else can prove something else.
3354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 18, 2017, 10:50:46 AM

You said that not everything has a cause a few posts ago, what is it? Does everything have a cause or not, quit contradicting yourself.
When you read it in context, there is no contradiction.



Science has never answered the question of whether the universe is deterministic or not, stop fucking lying or show me the evidence.
You haven't explained what determinism has to do with the things that I have said.


Quantum this and that is theory. Theory has not been proven to be fact, because opposing theory can be proposed.



https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.
Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.



''There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause.'' There isn't any proof that it is an effect of a cause either.

The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist. Then, some scientists and engineers build equipment that makes a radioactive element - using C&E, by the way - that didn't exist a moment ago. Then the new element decays because of its radioactivity, and is gone, often in less than a second. Scientists are the cause. The new element and its radioactivity are the effect.


Furthermore. If you don't think that C&E is all-inclusive in the face of all the billions of operations that exist that show it to exist, why would you even begin to think that evolution exists when scientists have barely produced anything that they can feel even reasonably sure that it is evolution? Since you doubt that overwhelmingly massive evidence of C&E, why would you even focus on the one or two things that might show evolution as a possibility, to say nothing about acknowledging them, and then to state for a fact that they exist?

You are a bit backwards in this.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you are helping to prove it.

Cool

You still haven't explained anything and still haven't proved that everything has a cause. You keep saying the same thing. Where is the proof that everything has a cause? That's also not known to be a fact and no one claims it's a fact but you. Do you have evidence that everything has a cause?
In what context you can say that everything has a cause but there is something without a cause?

''Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.'' How lol if everything has a cause, there is no free will.
''The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist.'' What?
You are not a scientist and you are not a physicist yet you talk about these things like you know it all, it just shows how deluded you are. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE, IMPOSSIBLE.

If you don't know what a deterministic universe means it just shows that you don't even know what you are talking about. Some philosophers think the universe is deterministic (nothing is ever random) and some don't. There is no answer to this, no one knows and you don't know either.
3355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 18, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
The fact that I can feel God, strengthens my belief in Him.

Cool

That's called schizophrenia.
3356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 17, 2017, 11:56:58 PM

When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

Cool

''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.
It doesn't say "must." It says "does" implied. A is the cause. B is the effect.

Did you notice your word "exert?"  "Exert" isn't in Newton's 3rd Law. Action and re-action are. In order to stop all action within even a single atom, or within an energy wave or particle, it would have to hit absolute zero. Investigate absolute zero. When you do, you will find that there isn't any evidence of the existence of absolute zero, just like there isn't any evidence of the existence of pure random.



Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.
C&E is not random. Wherein Newton's 3rd Law is there allowance for pure random? Nowhere. C&E, itself is cause for effect, not randomness for effect. Mutations are not random as in pure random. C&E is the opposite of pure random.

But if mutations are random to people because people simply can't follow what is happening in the mutation process, then the evolution theory is, itself, saying that it does not know that evolution is real. How is evolution theory saying this? By using the term "random" when people would not have used that term if they knew the process. Rather, if they knew the process, they would have expressed the process rather than saying "random." This is the way that evolution theory, itself, says that evolution is not known to be real. Why are there so many people who say that evolution and evolution theory are real, when even the evolution theory that they express says that they don't know?



Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.
The fact that everything has a cause, beyond all the billions of causes that are known, is the fact that there is no evidence for absolute zero, as stated above in this post. Research it. The fact that a photon of light travels throughout the universe shows that it is at least slightly above absolute zero.

Thank you for admitting that evolution is not known to be real. How are you admitting it? Because there would have to be randomness for there to be the kind of mutations that evolution requires for it to exist. But if Q&E can't be proven to be all-inclusive, then it can't be proven to NOT be all-inclusive. This means that evolution people don't know that evolution is true.

This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it. And, it takes us back to the few strong evidences for evolution - which are not proofs because they can fit things other than evolution, as well - and the story of evolution which has nothing to back it up other than words without facts behind them.

In other words:
1. Lots of speculation;
2. Lots of C&E;
3. Essentially no evolution.



Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

Now you are finally getting it. There is not an infinity of no cause. God is the Great First Cause. Entropy shows us that there was a beginning... a beginning to the cause and effect nature of the universe.

Thank you, again for helping to show us all that evolution is a great big fat hoax. Evolution is NOT a hoax because people are innocently making a mistake about it. It's a hoax because they absolutely know about the existence of the Great First Cause, but are attempting to bypass "Him" in their knowledge. How are they attempting to bypass Him? By touting evolution as truth, even though they admit that they really don't know that it is truth.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So now you are saying that not everything has a cause? What is it then lol. ''This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it'' I already told you about radioactive decay several times, do you have alzheimers?
''The fact that everything has a cause'' How is it a fact, there is no scientific evidence for that and you said yourself that not everything has a cause, make up your mind. So now, we can see that evolution is actually real.


You talking about huge problems here and your claims are absolutely insane because no one fucking knows.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.

There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause. But there is proof that radioactive decay can be an effect of a causal group.

The only thing against C&E not being an all-inclusive fact is that not everything has been examined. But in scientific talk, enough has been examined, and enough understanding about C&E is available, that science considers C&E an all-inclusive fact.

Since evolution doesn't have anything in favor of it in reality, and since the few things that seem to be in favor of it can be applied to other things better, and since there are at least several major ways in which evolution is impossible, evolution is not real.

Thank you for your, above highlighted, statement. It shows that even you understand that evolution is not known to be real, even though you said evolution is real in the highlighted area above it. How readily you contradict yourself, almost in the same sentence! But, that's the way of political science.

Just because you are unwilling to understand how things work, doesn't mean there is no free will.

Keep on yacking. All you have is political science... which is yacking and blabbing and nothing more.

Cool

You said that not everything has a cause a few posts ago, what is it? Does everything have a cause or not, quit contradicting yourself.

Science has never answered the question of whether the universe is deterministic or not, stop fucking lying or show me the evidence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.

''There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause.'' There isn't any proof that it is an effect of a cause either.
3357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 17, 2017, 10:46:00 PM

When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

Cool

''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.
It doesn't say "must." It says "does" implied. A is the cause. B is the effect.

Did you notice your word "exert?"  "Exert" isn't in Newton's 3rd Law. Action and re-action are. In order to stop all action within even a single atom, or within an energy wave or particle, it would have to hit absolute zero. Investigate absolute zero. When you do, you will find that there isn't any evidence of the existence of absolute zero, just like there isn't any evidence of the existence of pure random.



Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.
C&E is not random. Wherein Newton's 3rd Law is there allowance for pure random? Nowhere. C&E, itself is cause for effect, not randomness for effect. Mutations are not random as in pure random. C&E is the opposite of pure random.

But if mutations are random to people because people simply can't follow what is happening in the mutation process, then the evolution theory is, itself, saying that it does not know that evolution is real. How is evolution theory saying this? By using the term "random" when people would not have used that term if they knew the process. Rather, if they knew the process, they would have expressed the process rather than saying "random." This is the way that evolution theory, itself, says that evolution is not known to be real. Why are there so many people who say that evolution and evolution theory are real, when even the evolution theory that they express says that they don't know?



Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.
The fact that everything has a cause, beyond all the billions of causes that are known, is the fact that there is no evidence for absolute zero, as stated above in this post. Research it. The fact that a photon of light travels throughout the universe shows that it is at least slightly above absolute zero.

Thank you for admitting that evolution is not known to be real. How are you admitting it? Because there would have to be randomness for there to be the kind of mutations that evolution requires for it to exist. But if Q&E can't be proven to be all-inclusive, then it can't be proven to NOT be all-inclusive. This means that evolution people don't know that evolution is true.

This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it. And, it takes us back to the few strong evidences for evolution - which are not proofs because they can fit things other than evolution, as well - and the story of evolution which has nothing to back it up other than words without facts behind them.

In other words:
1. Lots of speculation;
2. Lots of C&E;
3. Essentially no evolution.



Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

Now you are finally getting it. There is not an infinity of no cause. God is the Great First Cause. Entropy shows us that there was a beginning... a beginning to the cause and effect nature of the universe.

Thank you, again for helping to show us all that evolution is a great big fat hoax. Evolution is NOT a hoax because people are innocently making a mistake about it. It's a hoax because they absolutely know about the existence of the Great First Cause, but are attempting to bypass "Him" in their knowledge. How are they attempting to bypass Him? By touting evolution as truth, even though they admit that they really don't know that it is truth.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So now you are saying that not everything has a cause? What is it then lol. ''This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it'' I already told you about radioactive decay several times, do you have alzheimers?
''The fact that everything has a cause'' How is it a fact, there is no scientific evidence for that and you said yourself that not everything has a cause, make up your mind. So now, we can see that evolution is actually real.


You talking about huge problems here and your claims are absolutely insane because no one fucking knows.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.
3358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you in favor of same sex marriage? on: December 17, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
I don't have any disagreement on same sex marriage I am straight but then marriage and living together same sex or not has only one piece of paper (mariage contract) apart so if you really love each other then let it be married or not.

Dude, the problem is not with marriage. If they want, they can get married in a private function. But the problem arises when they ask the government to recognize their marriage. I am against any such recognition.

Why?
3359  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 17, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
If the world is flat where does the sun go?   If it’s flat why can you not see a 10’ tall building 20 miles away? The earth curves approx 8” every mile.  

Do you understand what an illusion is? Have you ever been tricked by a stage magician?

He's successfully tricked you into believing there's no rabbit in his hat then you're amazed when he pulls one out.

Do you follow?

The heliocentric model is the empty hat and the magician has successfully tricked you into thinking his hat is empty.

Instead of "where does the sun go?" try "why is the sun not visible?".

Instead of "why can you not see a 10’ tall building 20 miles away?" try the Nikon Coolpix P900 and see for yourself or download videos from people who have one.

The Earth is a flat and motionless plane.
Soo why is the sun not visible?

Because it's gone past the vanishing point.

I never heard of anything like that in science only art. What is the vanishing point in science and how do you calculate it, elaborate.
3360  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 17, 2017, 03:27:13 PM
If the world is flat where does the sun go?   If it’s flat why can you not see a 10’ tall building 20 miles away? The earth curves approx 8” every mile.  

Do you understand what an illusion is? Have you ever been tricked by a stage magician?

He's successfully tricked you into believing there's no rabbit in his hat then you're amazed when he pulls one out.

Do you follow?

The heliocentric model is the empty hat and the magician has successfully tricked you into thinking his hat is empty.

Instead of "where does the sun go?" try "why is the sun not visible?".

Instead of "why can you not see a 10’ tall building 20 miles away?" try the Nikon Coolpix P900 and see for yourself or download videos from people who have one.

The Earth is a flat and motionless plane.
Soo why is the sun not visible?
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